Liverpool Rumours Archive November 21 2010

 

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21 Nov 2010 23:55:06
"The simple answer to the original question NESV is valued at ~ $1billion, based on the last shares transaction few months back .
I don't see why the individual wealth of the partners comes into it, they don't own liverpool, they just have shares in the company that owns Liverpool, and its very important to understand that because very soon the company will be taking out its first loan in the name of Liverpool.
One other point, Henry as an individual is worth less than 500m, divorce and the credit crunch affected his wealth.
Roy"

I agree with your overall logic about potential money available, but two things;
(1) Your assertion about the valuation is incorrect. It was worth somewhere around £1b (note the pound sign) and that was before acquiring Liverpool which will have increased its total value.
(2) Where are you getting your information that they are to take out a loan in Liverpool's name as it sounds like guesswork.

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21 Nov 2010 23:53:18
21 Nov 2010 23:41:40
How much are NESV roughly worth, are they mega rich?

John Henry alone is not the only owner, he has the backing of 17 other investors including the New York Times, it is estimated the total net worth of all investors combined together is somewhere between 10-£15 billion. .also Funny enough Carlos Slim Helu the worlds richest man owns a 20% stake in New York Times, his personal wealth is estimated at $65 billion dollars.he has shown intrest to accuire all of the New York times in the past, if he buys them in the future he will become part owner of lfc

nesv is actually made up of 16 partners:

John W. Henry - Principal Owner
Thomas C. Werner - Chairman
Thomas R. DiBenedetto
Michael Egan
David Ginsberg
Michael Gordon
John A. Kaneb
Seth Klarman
Larry Lucchino
Henry F. McCance
Phillip H. Morse
The New York Times Company
Art Nicholas
Frank Resnek
Martin Trust
Jeffrey Vinik

as you can see new york times is a partner in nesv, , and slim wants new york times to be his completley, , there for he will be a major partner in nesv one day so right now hes not a major partner in lfc, , but one day he most likely will be which one day lfc will be very rich its already reported he wants into football, , and this is now his way in

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21 Nov 2010 23:41:40
How much are NESV roughly worth, are they mega rich?

John Henry alone is not the only owner, he has the backing of 17 other investors including the New York Times, it is estimated the total net worth of all investors combined together is somewhere between 10-£15 billion. .also Funny enough Carlos Slim Helu the worlds richest man owns a 20% stake in New York Times, his personal wealth is estimated at $65 billion dollars.he has shown intrest to accuire all of the New York times in the past, if he buys them in the future he will become part owner of lfc

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21 Nov 2010 23:39:10
Wow ffs we have no connection whatsoever to carlos slim helu! He's an investor in an investor of an investor effectively. He has no involvement in NESV's dealings! The whole reason of investment is to make a profit, not throw money you won't ever make at the business!

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21 Nov 2010 23:26:16
The simple answer to the original question NESV is valued at ~ $1billion, based on the last shares transaction few months back .
I don't see why the individual wealth of the partners comes into it, they don't own liverpool, they just have shares in the company that owns Liverpool, and its very important to understand that because very soon the company will be taking out its first loan in the name of Liverpool.
One other point, Henry as an individual is worth less than 500m, divorce and the credit crunch affected his wealth.
Roy

if nesv own liverpool and not john henry then the individuals do come into it, , lfc is part of there company, , john henry is the chairman cos he is the main man of nesv, , if john henry and werner alone owned lfc then id say around 1bn, , but its nesv, so its billions and if that man one guy on here said is a share holder in nesv and if hes worth £53bn or watever then he has a say in nesv and a say in lfc and any company owned by nesv

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21 Nov 2010 23:14:46
"How much are NESV roughly worth, are they mega rich?
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As I said a few days ago - it depends on your outlook. John Henry is worth about £800m-1bn, Tom Werner roughly the same. Then there is the New York Times Company, that had revenues of £1.9bn last year and is one of the major members of NESV. One of their major shareholders is one Carlos Slim Helu - the richest man on earth, with reports of his wealth wavering from £45-60bn.
So, if you include Slim as one of our custodians then we're technically the wealthiest club in football by a country mile, worth about £60-70bn - but I doubt he'd dip into his wallet to fund some £250m Messi bid (which he could easily afford) so the realistic wealth is £7-8bn."


The simple answer to the original question NESV is valued at ~ $1billion, based on the last shares transaction few months back .
I don't see why the individual wealth of the partners comes into it, they don't own liverpool, they just have shares in the company that owns Liverpool, and its very important to understand that because very soon the company will be taking out its first loan in the name of Liverpool.
One other point, Henry as an individual is worth less than 500m, divorce and the credit crunch affected his wealth.
Roy

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21 Nov 2010 23:12:12
To the people talking about Benitez coming back this will never happen due to the fact he wants total control of club from youth teams to transfers and NESV want the opposite they seem to be trying to get people to concentrate on one job and be the best at that not be a jack of all trades.
If and when a new manager comes in i hope its a young british manager who plays attacking football and gives the young players a chance but please not steve bruce as i saw mentioned by someone .

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21 Nov 2010 22:42:28
Just wondering what happened to the hulk rumours?
He would be top of my wishlist if we could get him but all seems to have gone quiet regarding him, you know anything ed? {ed's note - he was only rumoured because he fell out with the management, apparently the differences have been sorted. I doubt he will be going anywhere in January now.}

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21 Nov 2010 22:39:30
How much are NESV roughly worth, are they mega rich?
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As I said a few days ago - it depends on your outlook. John Henry is worth about £800m-1bn, Tom Werner roughly the same. Then there is the New York Times Company, that had revenues of £1.9bn last year and is one of the major members of NESV. One of their major shareholders is one Carlos Slim Helu - the richest man on earth, with reports of his wealth wavering from £45-60bn.
So, if you include Slim as one of our custodians then we're technically the wealthiest club in football by a country mile, worth about £60-70bn - but I doubt he'd dip into his wallet to fund some £250m Messi bid (which he could easily afford) so the realistic wealth is £7-8bn.

jon

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21 Nov 2010 22:22:03
21 Nov 2010 22:17:22
Just had a crazy thought ed. Imagine. Roy hasnt been sacked because we havent found the replacement for him, right? Well what about at the end of the season José Murinho comes in? How realistic is this ed? {ed's note - I think there is more chance of me taking over mate, sorry.}

ha a this made me laugh. Oh well we can all dream eh?

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21 Nov 2010 22:21:47
Carlo ancelotti to be liverpool manager by january


Jimbo

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21 Nov 2010 22:19:05
I think roy will be given till the end of the season, and a small amount will be given in jan to see if he can save his job, roy cannot moan come the end of jan that it his not his team, as the spine was already there, in reina, carra gerrard torres. he has then added 3 or four players in konchesky, poulsen cole and merieles to that, with 2 or 3 players brought in roy has changed the team to a team he has put together. nico krancjar will be looked at as he will be cheap, the babel plus cash for young will be offerd im sure, and maybe one more a forward i would think.maybe a loan deal of some sort for a top forward like benzema, but wages could be a problem.
i think unless a top 4 finish is achevied then roy will be replaced. expecting a youngish manager who plays a good brand of football, as that it what will help gain a bigger global fanbase. i think roy may be over ruled on any potential sale of glen johnson in jan as he was so exspensive and is still first choice england right back. maybe a loan abroad till the end of the season to see what happens with the manager. not rumours just my opinions

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21 Nov 2010 22:17:35
Apparently we are looking at an accomplished young manager from the home nations coming in either in Jan or the summer depending on how we do between now and Christmas. We won't get the space we were given against West Ham by others, but it was good to see passing football. NESV are big admirers of Arsenal's last few years and want us to have a culture of playing the game in the right way so the fans have the spectacle as well as the performance, but all without having to spend ludicrous amounts. The drive to aquire players who love the game and love the club, and want to contribute to our progress without being greedy will be the way forward is very much there. Roy, bless him, is temporary custodian rather than long term future, but knows the score, and also knows it is pass-and-move intelligent play rather than counter-attacking pessimism that is required. British managers like Owen Coyle, Ian Holloway, Mark Hughes and Steve Bruce will all be considered, and the preference for a former Red might see the likes of Nigel Clough come into contention. As for the Houllier rumours, his time was characterized by an over-cautious and pessimistic brand of football that was followed by much of the same from Benitez. NESV, much as they did in New England, are committed to making the brand synonymous with the very best quality product for supporters (again, like Arsenal) and will only bring in someone who, like SAF (much as I hate to admit it) will deliver a progressive, positive, passing and potent way of playing that is satisying for the fans, and will increase marketability for the brand internationally to build on our fabulous legacy.

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21 Nov 2010 22:17:22
Just had a crazy thought ed. Imagine. Roy hasnt been sacked because we havent found the replacement for him, right? Well what about at the end of the season José Murinho comes in? How realistic is this ed? {ed's note - I think there is more chance of me taking over mate, sorry.}

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21 Nov 2010 22:11:29
Id love to see Young at Liverpool he has immense pace and it is the most sensible signing ive seen what do you think ed?
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He'd cost about £20m mate, and we could sign a player far better than Young for that type of money. He's over-rated, mainly because the English media and press pumped him up and over-rated him so much.

He'll possibly be available for a lot cheaper in the Summer because of his contract situation and the fact he maybe wants to leave, and I bet you Man Utd or Chelsea won't make a move for him.

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21 Nov 2010 22:10:56
Just another note on the coyle topic. i read a piece a while ago were the burnley chairman after appointing coyle said that how much coyle reminded him of the great shanks. now don't even know the chairmans name or if this chairman knew shanks but its some compliment and he must of based it on somethin for me if we were to go british for our next manager it would be him and i said this weeks ago not just after a 5-1 bolton win.

ps you can only beat whats in front of you but how bad was west ham don't think they made a tackle all game (roy still needs to go)

kopman

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21 Nov 2010 22:01:45
How much are NESV roughly worth, are they mega rich?
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Tom Werner and John W.Henry are worth £2.2billion pounds combined. They are both the "founders" of NESV if you like.

There are 14 other investors in NESV. One of these is the New York Times Company, estimaed to be worth £1.9billion. Not sure about the other 13, but I'd imagine to significantly be able to invest as part of NESV they'd need to be worth atleast £300-400m (can't really confirm that though).

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21 Nov 2010 21:49:41
I must admit Owen coyle is starting get my attention, I like his football and tactics, I think he is a up and coming manager for future, maybe Liverpool should put him on a short list to take over from Roy.

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21 Nov 2010 21:48:54
Id love to see Young at Liverpool he has immense pace and it is the most sensible signing ive seen what do you think ed? {ed's note - he is average at best, lightweight and loses the ball consistently, has no idea of where and when to run and goes missing if it gets tough.}

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21 Nov 2010 21:47:47
Y wud any true liverpool fan want rafa back? if any one was not convinced that he should have left they should be now, he is having a torrid time in italy with a team that did the treble last season, and his excuse is he needs money to buy players! they won the treble! sounds famililar. . . every year at liverpool he wanted more money. he spent 170m in his time. yes he is one of the best taticians in the game, but very cold towards his players, ask yossi, and he is useless in the transfer market, and i no people will say but what about alonso, ( who he offered to juventus to buy gareth barry) torres masherano, reina. . . . yes all great but a handfull out of over 100 players is poor. rafa gave us some great nights, and anyone who brings back robbie fowler should be given a nighthood imo. but be honest with yourself , could he have taken us any further than what he did? no i doubt it very much. benitez is his own worst enemy, had he not tried to win a mind battle with fergie, had he not been so defensive, had he held his hands up at times instead of blaming everyone else then maybe we would have won the league 2 years ago. time to move forward, new owners, new manager please, and build a new chapter to liverpool fc's history. ed please back me up on the whole rafa thing. {ed's note - I think you have summed it up nicely, Rafa is not the answer, he came in with a 5 year plan to win the league. But he forgot about it and concentrated on Europe every single year, he should never come back.}

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21 Nov 2010 21:47:03
I believe we are looking at strikers and defenders in the next transfer window.

Also i hate to say that by the looks of things Torres is going to leave in the simmer.

Macca

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21 Nov 2010 21:38:23
Evenin all.

to who stated this

First of all i would love 2 c Paco back at the club in some commodity, that guy knows his football and understands the Barca DNA fully. .Second Owen Coyle is making a big impression at Bolton. The players love him, He has the respect of opposition managers and he even has BOLTON playing some nice football! Would this guy not fit the bill?? young and hungry enough to build a legacy? ?Would hate him to be over looked only to get poached in a year or two by a rival. .What are your thoughts pls ed?? {ed's note - I think Coyle would be excellent, if we could get him, I would also love Pako to come back and work with him.}

I requested Coyle when rafa left (please check ed)
but also stated that i didn't think he would leave Bolton after only a few months.
Perhaps now he may? ? ?

LFC1

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21 Nov 2010 21:30:42
Liverpool are wanting to bring in mainly youngsters but are also looking at players who can add experience and are looking at di Rossi to become the new midfield enforcer shud be available for 22 m. Ed do u think he would in and do a job for us? {ed's note - not convinced by him at all myself, I don't see the need for a player like him.}

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21 Nov 2010 21:27:50
First of all i would love 2 c Paco back at the club in some commodity, that guy knows his football and understands the Barca DNA fully. .Second Owen Coyle is making a big impression at Bolton. The players love him, He has the respect of opposition managers and he even has BOLTON playing some nice football! Would this guy not fit the bill?? ? young and hungry enough to build a legacy? ?Would hate him to be over looked only to get poached in a year or two by a rival. .What are your thoughts pls ed?? ?? {ed's note - I think Coyle would be excellent, if we could get him, I would also love Pako to come back and work with him.}

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21 Nov 2010 21:25:16
Ed what's the chance of signing benzema and how much would he cost? Thanks {ed's note - in my opinion there is very little chance of getting Benzema, especially considering he would cost 20m+}

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21 Nov 2010 21:19:55
H&G are being sued for 140mil. brilliant

Oh what a shame. Couldn't have happened to two nicer blokes. Maybe we could raise a bit a cash for them! Or maybe Mr Broughton could help them out, I know they are good mates!

P.S good luck in whatever you do in life Mr Broughton, you will always be welcome at Anfield.

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21 Nov 2010 21:16:58
Here's my idea:

NESV will want to gain the support of the fans, as they have been doing so far. What next?
What better way to gain their support than a huge first transfer window?

Just an idea

sneakyenglishman1234

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21 Nov 2010 21:16:33
LIVERPOOL TO BUY SANTA CRUZ BRIDGE WRIGHT- PHILLIPS A.JOHNSON RICHARDS AND BELLAMY FOR 45 MILLION IN JANUARY ALSO MATA FOR 30 AND SHAKO FRO PSG FOR 12
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ha what world are you in? City will not, would not sell to us simple as! An Mata for £30M? Were is the money coming from? Liverpool want cheap prospects that will have value over a few years , such as Hazzard, would cost around 15M an i personally think he would become a great player under the right manager (Not Roy)

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21 Nov 2010 21:07:00
Not a rumour as such, but has anyone considered Owen Coyle as a possible replacement for Woy? Could be an inspired choice.

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21 Nov 2010 20:51:45
Liverpool are using mata rumours as a smoke screen and are working hard behind the scenes to tie up a deal for sanchez worth23m. He would be emmense for us.

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21 Nov 2010 20:38:47
HONDA
just to answer he wants to go to arsenal, i remember john barnes, that's were he wanted to go, but look what happened,
also ppl saying so and so is out of our price range? who knows whats going to happen, we have to wait and see, also just because players are touted around for potential bidders doesn't mean these are the players are the ones we are going to buy, once the £££ notes are waved most players are available i think there could be a shock in january simply because gerrard carra reina and torres were promised something so lets just be patient redmen, bob paisleys skids

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21 Nov 2010 20:38:19
Not a rumour more of a question for the ed and Macca as well as he seems pretty clued up! What are we looking at in jan? Is it 1-2 players, or more players are we looking uk based or euro based? So much info out there would be good to hear a few knowledgeable suggestions! Personally I think 1 maybe 2 signings poss 3 exits, the obvious target has to be Honda versatile, immensely talented and marketing revenues will be huuuuge! I do like the look of A.Griezman?(spelling) the real sociedad player fast skilful direct young and reasonably priced! Look forward to the feed back! By the way top site the coverage of the takeover was immense between this and the guardian I didn't read anything else for 3 days! ! {ed's note - I wouldn't expect more than 2 signings at the very most and a couple of outs. It is about consolidation and preparation for next season.}

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21 Nov 2010 20:36:37
I reckon now that Camolli is on the scene, we won't be seeing the likes of Carlton Cole or Shaun Wright-Phillips at the club.

Carlton Cole would cost around £10m (maybe more) and is making a fair wage. He wouldn't represent value for money over a few years as he offers absolutly nothing commercially and very little on the field.

Shaun Wright-Phillips wouldn't cost that much, but he's 29 now and well past his best. Apparantly he's not getting a new deal at City because he wants £100,000 per week. Liverpool certainly won't pay that weekly wage, and I'm sure he's making atleast £65,000-75,000 per week at Man City which would mean £3-4m per year on wages for a player 29 coming 30, and past his best.

By the looks of it, we won't have to worry about these two coming, because both deals are a complete waste of money and we'd spend a lot more on each on fees and wages than we'd get in return from performances on the field.

Won't be happening Hodgson.

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21 Nov 2010 20:09:56
Liverpool to buy shaun wright phillps and wayne bridge for 10m as roberto mancini is prepared to sell loads of players

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21 Nov 2010 20:04:30
A few of my friends visited today, one of them showed me a text message he recieved, called the management merry go round, stating that there are going to be some interesting developments, in a so called chain of events; this is how it goes!
wilkins will take over at west ham; grant will leave the epl, mancini out from city to inter to replace benitez, capello sacked from england job to replace mancini, hodgson to replace capello, and benitez to return to liverpool !
well i read this and almost cried with laughter, its got to be the biggest load of bs i have read for a long time, surely there can't be any truth in this, can there?

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21 Nov 2010 20:00:29
LIVERPOOL TO BUY SANTA CRUZ BRIDGE WRIGHT- PHILLIPS A.JOHNSON RICHARDS AND BELLAMY FOR 45 MILLION IN JANUARY ALSO MATA FOR 30 AND SHAKO FRO PSG FOR 12

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21 Nov 2010 19:29:48
Just a thought, how about stuart downing in jan. . good crosser, pace and can score?

sh!t player. .not good enough for lfc

bel - agree
unbel - disagree

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21 Nov 2010 19:26:36
I would just like to say goodbye, good luck and thank you to martin broughton I think he has steeped down . I believe he acted with the clubs best intrest in his heart and when the going got tough he rolled up his sleaves and fought for every lfc fan in the world for this he should always be welcom around our club even if he is supporting chelsea

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21 Nov 2010 19:15:28
Harry5

Good point . Before I read your reply i retracted the post (on the rumour page) . My thinking at the time was comparing Rafa's english career with Mancini's Italian career . I think they might be as successfulas each other .

1977

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21 Nov 2010 19:15:22
21 Nov 2010 19:00:58
Rafa Benitez will be sacked on monday after Inter lost to Chievo 2-1. FACT.
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If this happens would Rafa return to England and take the first job that becomes available in the Premier League. Possibly West Ham or Newcastle ?
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they won't be abe to afford rafa!

harry5

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21 Nov 2010 19:12:26
I posted only a moment ago that Roberto Mancini is a more successful manager than Rafa Benitez .

I actually think that they are as successful as each other .

What Mancini did domestically , Rafa accomplished almost as much , but Rafa has had great European Success .

1977

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21 Nov 2010 19:06:13
Woy to sign Benzema! FACT

He is a very good player indeed.

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21 Nov 2010 19:00:58
Rafa Benitez will be sacked on monday after Inter lost to Chievo 2-1. FACT.
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If this happens would Rafa return to England and take the first job that becomes available in the Premier League. Possibly West Ham or Newcastle ?
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OR MAN CITY ?

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Roberto Mancini is a more successful manager than Rafa Benitez .

1977

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21 Nov 2010 18:48:23
H&G are being sued for 140mil. brilliant

sneakyenglishman1234

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21 Nov 2010 18:45:05
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Rafa Benitez will be sacked on monday after Inter lost to Chievo 2-1. FACT.
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If this happens would Rafa return to England and take the first job that becomes available in the Premier League. Possibly West Ham or Newcastle ?
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OR MAN CITY ?

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21 Nov 2010 18:02:49
Rafa Benitez will be sacked on monday after Inter lost to Chievo 2-1. FACT.

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21 Nov 2010 18:01:43
It was reported on the radio today that we have been linked with Stephen Ireland who has failed to settle at Aston Villa and has a poor relationship with Gerard Houllier. I would hope he would cost no more than £5m. Not sure about him myself.

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21 Nov 2010 17:59:59
21 Nov 2010 17:30:55
A. Johnson has expressed his desire to have first team football, and L.F.C and offer this. Comolli has been keeping an eye on the starlet, and may be prepared to launch a bid for him in January. Even if it is only for half a season loan.

Boston-red-POOlWhy would one of our rivals loan us one of their players?

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21 Nov 2010 17:58:44
21 Nov 2010 13:47:16
Schweinsteiger is out of our budget. HONDA wants arsenal? lets go for Turan and Mata. I believe strongly that we should not get players who openely state that they would prefer a certain team and when turned down approach lfc. We are a leading football club and only want players who are 100% sure they want to play for lfc. We have the history and the trophies to get the top players. True we haven't performed to our abilities, the same happened to barca some years back, it took a few years to build that side. Lets copy barca and find talented youngters and wait for a year or two to gel these players then we shall become a formidable side again.

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1) Van Gaal has said he would seriously consider offers of around €30 million and the owners/ comolli have said that they would be willing to fund a world class signing so i doubt he would be out of our budget. However i doubt we will move for him.

2) Honda is open to a move anywhere, not just arsenal. His preference is arsenal but that won't mean he will immediately reject any other move.

3) Turan is injured, we need a player who will make an impact immediately.

4) Mata would be a great signing however would probably not be looking to move our way.

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21 Nov 2010 17:39:18
A. Johnson has expressed his desire to have first team football, and L.F.C and offer this. Comolli has been keeping an eye on the starlet, and may be prepared to launch a bid for him in January. Even if it is only for half a season loan.


I can't believe Mancini had Jo on the field today and Johnson on the bench. .not that they are competing for the same position, just that it makes no sense to me to have one on the field at all, and one not. Maybe Johnson is out of favour, maybe they have fallen out, either way, interest from us could pry him out, and he is exactly what we need at the club. Anyone who seen what he did to us earlier in the season must agree that we should show an interest.

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21 Nov 2010 17:30:55
A. Johnson has expressed his desire to have first team football, and L.F.C and offer this. Comolli has been keeping an eye on the starlet, and may be prepared to launch a bid for him in January. Even if it is only for half a season loan.

Boston-red-POOl

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21 Nov 2010 17:24:18
Roy has up until Mid-December to prove he is up to the job (which he isn't)
Also ED you wouldn't have twitter would you? {ed's note - I don't use twitter mate, I have an account I made ages ago but I forgot my password so have never actually used it!}

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21 Nov 2010 17:13:02
Yes bannan seems good, but have you seen suso?
he is brilliant! as good as schweinsteinger, hes going to be class if we get a manager who bring youngsters up. .pep guardiola.
and ed ive noticed that we are being linked with left wingers on this site, but surely we need a RM with cole playin left, any suggestions who you think we should sign?

twitter:LuisLFC_03BEEF {ed's note - Suso is nothing like Schweinsteiger, he is brilliant but he is not that kind of player at all. Cole is not a left winger, he has no pace and can't cross, he was a mistake to bring to the club with no real idea of how to use him.}

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21 Nov 2010 17:04:14
Bayern Munich head coach Louis van Gaal has suggested that his club should cash in on midfield general Bastian Schweinsteiger, rather than trying to persuade the Germany international to sign a new contract.

The 26-year-old is out of contract at the end of next season and a host of top European clubs are believed to be tracking Schweinsteiger

He told the German media: "I think that Bayern Munich is a business and if it is true that 30 million euros have been offered for him, then you cannot just ignore that kind of money.

"I would do it differently - my clubs have always listened to what I have said and my clubs have always earned a lot of money."

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21 Nov 2010 17:01:10
Heavy rumour that comolli was spotted at villareal game versus barcelona a couple weekends ago to scout nilmar
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was he? where did you get this from?
and if we was he could be looking at a number of players-i.e-nilmar, carzola, rossi, capdevilla, senna

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21 Nov 2010 16:39:19
{ed's note - for me it would be someone who would see us as the pinnacle of his career and the chance to build and then maintain a dynasty. Someone who has had a longer involvement in English football or at least understands just what Liverpool means. I would choose Di Matteo if I was going for an Italian, for instance. What about you?}
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I don't know mate, there aren't really any big name managers available at the moment it has to be said. Obviously if someone like Mourinho (just an example) was available its easy to put his name forward, but we don't have that luxury unfortunatly.

I like Boas from Porto, I like his style a lot. Obviously learned his trade from Mourinho, but gets his teams playing more passing and attacking which I like. Also a fan of Quique Sanchez Flores and of all the candidates, I would favour him most.

Flores did a good job at Valencia, and at the time, turned Atletico Madrid around leaps and bounds. Speaks impressive English, very astute and intelligent tactically, but also plays a nice style of football which we as a fanbase crave so much. And he's known for having strong relationships with his players. Seems ideal.

Obviously I don't know what you think of him. {ed's note - I agree with everything you have said about Flores, but I worry he would make the same mistake as Rafa and prioritise Europe. I worry someone like him would not understand just how important it is to win the league, it is the main priority.}

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21 Nov 2010 16:19:30
{ed's note - if he left he must surely come into consideration, I don't see him as the first choice replacement though.}
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I don't think he'll leave Chelsea personally. But like you say, he would come into consideration.

You say you don't see him as first choice, who would you see as first choice mate? {ed's note - for me it would be someone who would see us as the pinnacle of his career and the chance to build and then maintain a dynasty. Someone who has had a longer involvement in English football or at least understands just what Liverpool means. I would choose Di Matteo if I was going for an Italian, for instance. What about you?}

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21 Nov 2010 16:07:28
Hi to ed and all, i read in the paper today that carlo ancelotti might quit chelsea, do you think we shud go for him if its true he seems like a good manager and hes willling to blood youngsters. great site by the way ed(s)

huddz red {ed's note - if he left he must surely come into consideration, I don't see him as the first choice replacement though.}

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21 Nov 2010 16:05:27
Liverpool will look to bring in Marco reus in January for about 12million and also want to get taiwo to sign a pre contract

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21 Nov 2010 15:55:11
Apparantly Emmanuel Adebayor will be available for transfer in the January transfer window.

Apparantly he's on £180,000 a week at Citeh, so he'd have to almost half that amount if he wanted to sign here.

But obviously Liverpool could offer him first-team football, and a chance to start playing again, so we'd see if he's wanting money or football.

I'm personally not sure about him. What do others think?

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21 Nov 2010 15:33:20
Before you laugh and say im a joke i laughed at it at first and said dream onn but apprantly liverpool are monitering the spranish dinemo david villa situation! hes not fitting into Josep Guardiola team and prefers a big striker to let the likes of iniesta and xavi get more forward, apprantly they are monitering the situation with eden dzecko and willing to let villa go for what they paid for him which will allow the likes of manchester city and chelsea but villa apprantly want to join up with fernando torres like i said i laughed too
jaybee

right now i've laughed and your right you are a joke!
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like i said at the beginin it was apprant soo what your problem what makes your rumourrs more true than mine?

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21 Nov 2010 15:24:41
Before you laugh and say im a joke i laughed at it at first and said dream onn but apprantly liverpool are monitering the spranish dinemo david villa situation! hes not fitting into Josep Guardiola team and prefers a big striker to let the likes of iniesta and xavi get more forward, apprantly they are monitering the situation with eden dzecko and willing to let villa go for what they paid for him which will allow the likes of manchester city and chelsea but villa apprantly want to join up with fernando torres like i said i laughed too
jaybee

right now i've laughed and your right you are a joke!

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21 Nov 2010 15:17:03
Before you laugh and say im a joke i laughed at it at first and said dream onn but apprantly liverpool are monitering the spranish dinemo david villa situation! hes not fitting into Josep Guardiola team and prefers a big striker to let the likes of iniesta and xavi get more forward, apprantly they are monitering the situation with eden dzecko and willing to let villa go for what they paid for him which will allow the likes of manchester city and chelsea but villa apprantly want to join up with fernando torres like i said i laughed too
jaybee

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21 Nov 2010 15:13:40
I think 17 million is a fair price for a player like Lopez Ed.I think he would be a good foil for Torres, and as played with miereles at porto. Player of the yr in France, in his first yr, shows he as quality.My only concern is why Lyon would let him go.
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I think Lisandro Lopez was made available in the Summer and still is available.

I'm sure he'd be a good signing, but I think £17m could be better spent elsewhere. Of course, we all have our own opinions.

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21 Nov 2010 15:04:29
Watching the B'burn v Villa match and have been watching Ashley Young very closely. I can safely say that he has to be one of the most overrated players in the prem. People touting him to be worth 20m + is ridiculous. He constantly loses the ball, has little strength and would add no natural width as (just like every 'winger' we have in our first team at the moment) he likes to drift inside. He's a gooby little s* te as well and spending that amount of money on him would be a complete waste. Why not use Amoo or Sterling on the wings. There's a reason he didn't make it in the provisional world cup squad, let alone actually going to SA.
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Totally agree with you mate. I've actually believed that Young was over-rated for a while. He had a good spell for about 4-5months two years ago and has since done nothing. That's why Capello never really gave him a run in the England side and always took Downing over him.

I believe in Ryan Babel, we have a player with far more raw ability and with better potential. Unfortunatly, being wasted.

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21 Nov 2010 15:03:15
I see what you mean now Ed. You don't think we will be paying that much on a player of his age, because of Henrys policy of buying undervalue players who will increase in value rather than players.who are established and will decrease in value.I think the fans will expect a few proven players though and I would rather spend 17 million on Lopez than 17million on Young from Villa. {ed's note - I would agree with you there, I don't want Young at the club, he is simply not good enough. I think Lopez would cost a lot more than 20m though, I simply can't see us paying that for him, we could buy Honda for a lot less.}

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21 Nov 2010 14:57:34
Looked about the place, and haven't yet seen Honda saying he wants to sign for Arsenal or anything to indicate that he favours Arsenal out of all the potential suitors.

I doubt Wenger will want to sign him in all honesty. He has plenty of players to play in his attacking trio - Van Persie, Nasri, Arshavin, Chamakh, Walcott and even add Vela and Bentdner to the mix. Should Bentdner leave, he still has plenty of players for that area, and I'm sure if he needed he would put Wilshere in a more advanced role.

Wenger will be happy with Arsenal's options in for his front trio, and they are in a very good position in the table despite some poor results so I really can't see him putting in a big chase for Honda.

There doesn't really seem to be anyone making a charging bid to sign Honda, so there is absolutly no reason why we can't go in there and agree a good price, and get the lad signed up. He's quality, and he would do us good in the Asian market.

Would you not agree Ed? {ed's note - fully agree mate, he should be our main priority in January, he would improve us massively.}

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21 Nov 2010 14:43:55
I think 17 million is a fair price for a player like Lopez Ed.I think he would be a good foil for Torres, and as played with miereles at porto. Player of the yr in France, in his first yr, shows he as quality.My only concern is why Lyon would let him go. {ed's note - I wasn't disputing his price, merely whether we would pay that much for him.}

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21 Nov 2010 14:30:17
RUMOUR yoann m'vila is not coming to LFC he has been well priced out of the market rennes have been quoted as saying they won't except anything lower than 15 million now i don't no about u but i don't think he is worth that much he is a good holding player but not that good and on player prices greizmann was 2million to r sociedad i suppose our scouts were having a cup of tea or something we need to be like these other clubs barcelona arsenal fiorentina and start getting these boys young for a nice cheap price the only other problem is we need a manager who will include these young lads into our team

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21 Nov 2010 14:14:03
I heared we are being linked with Lopez. He would be a good buy if we could get him for 17 million, but why would Lyon sell there player of the yr, when they bought him for 24m euros.some of this paper talk is garbage. what do you think Ed, is there any truth in this? {ed's note - not at 17m I don't, no. I really doubt we will go for him because of that price.}

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21 Nov 2010 13:52:39
Just a thought, how about stuart downing in jan. . good crosser, pace and can score?
bel - agree
unbel - disagree

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21 Nov 2010 12:52:28
"van gaal has come out and stated he may put him up for sale in the SUNDAY TIMES"

In the classified section ?

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21 Nov 2010 12:50:12
A european scout told me that Honda is looking very likely to be joining arsenal.wenger wants him and Honda would like to play for Wenger so it looks like we could miss out on a great player

The last thing Arsenal need now is a midfielder! If they are going to buy anyone, it will be a goalkeeper and/ or a centre back.

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21 Nov 2010 12:27:18
{Editor's Note: You are reading something in to what he said. "World Class" is a subjective term and I think you will find he clarified it by saying something along the lines of "if the price is right". Also, I expect the intention would be to find someone who may become world class.}
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World class certainly is a subjective term. But I would imagine (as I'm sure you would also) that anyone's definition of a world class player is a pretty damn good player. Obviously we all know it won't be a Kaka or a Sneijder. To generalise, I think someone the standard of maybe Juan Mata is what Camolli might have had in mind when he said "world class".

Sorry, I've blabbed on abit there lol

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21 Nov 2010 12:22:53
HI ED i think the schweinsteiger rumour has legs for liverpool as van gaal has come out and stated he may put him up for sale in the SUNDAY TIMES he is stated as saying im looking to find a more fuid playing style with pace in midfield and also the player has stated he wants a move abroard come on tom and john get your money out

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21 Nov 2010 12:17:46
HI ED comolli was at tha game villareal v barca scouting but EL MARCA have stated liverpools interest in manilla a young midfielder with huge talent

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21 Nov 2010 12:13:22
HI ED the links with s ireland r strong babel getting swapped too

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21 Nov 2010 12:07:59
Heavy rumour that comolli was spotted at villareal game versus barcelona a couple weekends ago to scout nilmar

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21 Nov 2010 11:46:46
A european scout told me that Honda is looking very likely to be joining arsenal.wenger wants him and Honda would like to play for Wenger so it looks like we could miss out on a great player

i posted this four months ago and got shot down! but i have stuck with my remark and trusted in my informers! wenger loves a player who can play in a variety of positions and that honda would complement his team! this move to arsenal is going to happen.

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21 Nov 2010 11:16:25
A european scout told me that Honda is looking very likely to be joining arsenal.wenger wants him and Honda would like to play for Wenger so it looks like we could miss out on a great player

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21 Nov 2010 09:23:47
Do u think we will get in jan ed? {ed's note - I don't expect much business at all in Jan mate, I don't think the new owners will want to set a precedent by splashing loads of cash. It would mean that everyone would up their prices in the summer, better to just consolidate for now and start afresh next}

With Comolli saying that they will sign a player for a lot of money if they feel he is worth it, how much do you think the owners would be willing to spend on one player? Ed?

{Editor's Note: I don't think Comolli said that. All they are saying is that if they identify a player who can improve the squad then the money will be there for that purchase. There is no budget per se, there is no "Masch Money", there is no guarantee that player sales will go right back in to purchases. What there does appear to be is a commitment to the future of the club through responsible ownership and management. Players will be identified and a case put to the board and agreement reached before any purchase goes ahead. Hopefully this will end the Rafa syndrome of buying that Roy seems to have adopted at the start of his Liverpool career. If the right players are identied, at the right price, and a deal can be reach with their club and they want to make the move to Liverpool, then the money will no doubt be made available.}

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21 Nov 2010 07:34:07
Liverpool, Tottenham and Blackburn Rovers have been alerted to the possibility of signing Benfica striker Oscar Cardozo in January, Goal.com

That's as far as I read! Goal.com need I say more!

Runcorn Red!

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21 Nov 2010 04:05:21
Oscar Cardoza 14m & Taye Taiwo free in Jan.

{Editor's Note: Taiwo is available to sign a pre-contract in January but if he moves in January expect to pay a fee.}

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21 Nov 2010 01:14:05
Posted yesterday about karncjar and santa cruz on loan, it got tons of unbelievables, todays paper says liverpool want krancjar but so do hamburg. My source at the club told me about these two. My source is a player at the club but out on loan.

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21 Nov 2010 00:40:17
What do you think of the chances of getting schweinsteiger?
he is reported as to maybe be leaving his current club, and he is still young, can control the midfield and as got a good pass on him.
could he the big signing at the right price that comolli was on about. we could get him for about 20/ 25mill ?

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21 Nov 2010 00:31:14
I think there will be 2 players bought in jan think the defence will be ok till the summer need a winger and a striker i hope gomes on lone krank from tot swap babel then theres no out lay we have got to be real where linkd with every1 lets be real 2 players in jan then the summer make sum real changes

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21 Nov 2010 00:05:25
Tot next we need to start picking up points away then dec an jan will be are mths hopefully pick up 15points in dec

and gary cahill in jan plus winger and would love to see a carrol would do wot i cud to get im huw do u think we will get in jan ed? {ed's note - I don't expect much business at all in Jan mate, I don't think the new owners will want to set a precedent by splashing loads of cash. It would mean that everyone would up their prices in the summer, better to just consolidate for now and start afresh next season.}

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