Liverpool Rumours Archive February 01 2022

 

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01 Feb 2022 11:39:11
Spoke to someone who works for the club (normally pretty tight lipped) but they believe Liverpool are well in the running for Bellingham this summer and they think it will happen, they're also of the belief that Salah will go when his contract runs out next summer.
Not saying this will definitely happen but it's good to know there is genuine interest and belief from the club that Bellingham is within our reach. Salah is a tough one, I'd hate to see him go but he's 30 in the summer and giving him a 5 year megabucks contract has big risks and we could end up with him at 33 on the decline whilst earning mega bucks and being unable to move him on, similar to the Ozil/ Bale situations.

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01 Feb 2022 12:01:17
are you saying salah to leave on a free, don't think so. if contract isn't agreed then salah will be sold this summer.

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01 Feb 2022 12:06:34
Thanks for sharing mate. I don’t know why so don’t ask but something is telling me we will sign Bellingham. Just a gut feeling. He will have everyone and his dog after him but he seems level headed and will decide based on what’s best for his career as opposed to money. Anyways the first hurdle will be convincing Dortmund to sell this summer.

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01 Feb 2022 12:06:54
His injury record is impeccable and he's gained form if anything. Give the guy a contract, he deserves one.

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01 Feb 2022 12:05:18
I told that Gladys dinner lady not to say a word😡.

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01 Feb 2022 12:28:15
But will They sell Bellingham this summer. If Haaland is going then maybe they keep Bellingham another season? Think it may be tough to see both leave this summer.

Salah looks like he will be fit for the next 3/ 4 years the way he looks after himself. Would love him to sign new contract.

More than anything would like Klopp to sign another contract extension.

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01 Feb 2022 12:43:52
Don’t shoot the messenger I’m only passing on what someone inside the club told me (works with the players) . My guess is nobody really knows what the end game is with Salah, not even Salah or the men making the decisions for Liverpool. This is just what he thinks will happen.
With regards to Bellingham there will likely have been feelers put out and I believe he’s a Liverpool fan, obviously a long way to go but I thought the problem would have been money but obviously the club think something can be done.
As I have said, don’t quote me on this, if things were official I don’t think he would pass on the info as he’s normally tight lipped for obvious reasons, it’s more what he thinks will happen but being privy to more info than the man on the street, things can also change so quickly from one day to the next let alone 6/ 18 months.

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01 Feb 2022 12:52:53
I don’t think the Salah situation would develop at all into an Ozil/ Bale situation.
Very different players.

If anything Salah is getting better. He’s scored as much this season already as he did in our title winning season. He’s on course to have his 2nd best goal scoring season but is also now adding assists to his game.
He’s rarely if ever injured, has a great attitude and is the consummate professional who looks after himself exceptionally well. It all points to him playing at a high level for several seasons yet.
It wouldn’t need to be a 5yr deal. It could be a 3/ 4yr deal with the potential for another at the end depending on circumstances. That would take him to 33/ 34.

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01 Feb 2022 12:54:14
West Ham were after Raphina, who plays in the same position as Bowen, who plays in the same position as Mo.
Jurgen has been saying negotiations are going well.
Bellingham i can see happening. Mo leaving, less so.

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01 Feb 2022 13:32:45
The situation with Bale and Ozil has a lot to do with clubs paying silly wages for a player who isn’t as good further down the line from when they signed the deal, if we sign Salah up to a 5 year deal it certainly has the potential to go that way, although I’d like to think both parties would deal with it in a better manner.
Ginger you say sign him to a 3/ 4 year deal with potential to increase, I imagine that’s exactly what Liverpool would want to do but Salah and his agent will be pushing for a deal as long as possible as his value will almost certainly decrease going forward.
I do agree that Salah could certainly be a different to the norm and he is arguably getting better and has adapted his game so he’s not as reliant on speed but I’m sure in Liverpools head they will be thinking in 4/ 5 years time will be be worthy of being the highest paid (or one of) in the league and going off history it’s likely he won’t be (not saying it’s impossible)

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01 Feb 2022 13:38:06
Personally, I think it’s too soon to move for Bellingham, and at the price quoted it’s a lot for a player we don’t necessarily need right now. I think it would be remiss not to renew Salah’s contract. He’s good for another 4 years the shape he’s in. Personally I’d move on Firmino, Mane, Minamino, make a decision on which of Phillips and Gomez to sell, move Williams on, let Milner and Origi go on free transfers and bring in Bissouma, Carvalho and Alexander Isak, job done. Conor Bradley can cover right back.

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01 Feb 2022 13:47:10
VVVV- I think Bellingham walks straight into our best 11 personally and is only going to get better, the sooner the better for me.

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01 Feb 2022 13:57:03
I think as salah ages his role will change within the team anyway if he signs with us . Bellingham I would be a great addition but I can’t see us shelling out 100mill or what ever has been touted I’d expect him to stay at Dortmund another year and be summer 2023 he will be on the move.

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01 Feb 2022 15:21:03
VVVV. Bellingham is young but he gets into our side. The guy is different gravy and future captain for me. Has the size, poise and ability to hack it with “the big boys”. well in my opinion anyways. He will only get better and has a mature head on his shoulders despite his age. As you’re aware Hendo is not getting any younger and he would be the perfect replacement. If there is a slither and I mean slither of hope of getting him this summer, you go all out.

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01 Feb 2022 15:21:45
It’s one or the other isn’t it. If we sign Salah up on a new deal, there will be no Bellingham. If Salah is sold in the summer we will need a replacement that might be Bellingham.

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01 Feb 2022 16:16:50
Why are they linked WarMachine?

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01 Feb 2022 17:37:43
If you sell Salah you need to find 30 plus goals from somewhere. Not to Mention Salah’s assists. Signing Bellingham is not connected to Salah as they play totally different positions. I also think Rice going straight into our midfield now, Bellingham needs a little more time.

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01 Feb 2022 20:03:22
money link - if we sign up Salah to a new contract I doubt we will have the funds for a massive signing which Bellingham would be. If we sell Salah and his wages then we might.

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01 Feb 2022 21:10:06
How much do we guesstimate Bellingham's salary would be?
Combine that with Salah's if he signs, and that's a massive outlay on 2 players alone. Still, I think silly salaries are going to be unavoidable if FSG want to keep the club competing seriously for the top trophies. It comes with the territory nowadays.

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01 Feb 2022 23:24:38
We'll have to get better "sponsorships" now won't we😉.

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02 Feb 2022 00:47:18
I think we should wait 5 years before trying to sign Bellingham, then people could say we missed the opportunity to get him for a lot cheaper price in 2022.

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02 Feb 2022 07:12:47
I can see Salah being our main striker if he stays. As above have said he is less reliant on his pace these days as he is not as rapid as he was when he first joined but his movement, positions and finishing our out of this world. That said Vardy is still very quick so why can’t Salah be the same? definitely try to keep him until end of career I would say.

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02 Feb 2022 07:31:13
@Markp - we just saw a mini advert for what happens when Mo and Sadio move on in January - the goals didn’t stop. For me it’s more about creating opportunities to score. Controversial I know but I think we’d go ok without them.

I’d also say that Jota has his faults but he’d probably be our most natural finisher, having the best instinct for being in the right place at the right time.

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02 Feb 2022 07:37:22
People talking about year 30 as if you die in a couple years time. If Salah is as advertised then it will be worth signing to him for 5 years even if he only gives you 3 years of peak. But it really comes down to what the club determine is value for their money over the duration. I would make the deal because I think Salah has the attitude and discipline to keep performing at a high level into his mid-30s. The best teams in the world all have guys in their 30s who are integral to their team.

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02 Feb 2022 12:12:16
Tell me who, in 2/ 3 seasons time will have a better midfield 3 than Elliott, Jones and Bellingham, FSG need to get this done.

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{Ed001's Note - Bellingham is a class player but he plays a similar role to Elliott and Jones. There would be no one there to protect the defence. I would still love us to get Bellingham, but I just would be worried about that as the midfield trio, much as I love all 3 players.}

02 Feb 2022 12:26:36
Tbh I think we should give Salah a new contract. Worst case scenario we offload him in a few years, similarly to what arsenal have done with Auba. Surely there would be a massive amount of clubs in the Middle East willing to sign him given his profile. Makes it a win win really. We get the best out of him for the next few years and can offload him if need to.

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02 Feb 2022 14:34:47
Right Ed001 you can ONLY pick 2 from the 3 of Bellingham, Jones or Billy. So who are the 2?

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{Ed001's Note - they are all different types of players mate, so you would want horses for courses. Bellingham would be a replacement for Henderson's role in the team.}

02 Feb 2022 14:43:49
Hi Ed001. Hasn't there been talk of Elliott as a potential false 9? So maybe we could have Morton, Jones, Bellingham, Carvalho, Elliott, Gordon lining up in 4-5 years. That would be pretty impressive if they all fulfil their potential!

Btw the fact that Ed002 hasn't (yet) said Liverpool won't be signing Bellingham fills me with enormous hope.

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{Ed001's Note - that was seen as the position he would probably end up in long term before this season. He impressed so much in midfield I would say it would be better to leave him there though.}

02 Feb 2022 14:52:57
I love Bellingham but can’t see it happening if we sign this Carvalho kid. Let’s be honest, the owners won’t splash the money required and we need to prioritise a more defensive option in midfield to rotate with Fabinho who can also play the Hendo role as number 1 priority.

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03 Feb 2022 09:48:43
FlashTheRed- a complete guess but I would imagine Bellingham would probably be middle of the pack with regards to wages, £100-150k a week. Henderson/ Milner/ Ox territory so his wages could just replace Milners if he retires or Ox if we get rid.
His transfer fee wouldn’t be as big of a hit with regards to FFP because of his age.

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03 Feb 2022 12:57:48
Cobra, thanks for the intel and the subsequent comments. I personally hope that something can be sorted with Mo as I think he belongs in that rare group of players who could still be worth as much to the team at 35 as he was at 30.

I think he has the same approach (from the stories I have seen and his general personality) to fitness as Ronaldo (the 'newer' one not the original! ) . So I could definitely see him as a key first 11 member certainly 3-4 years hence if not 5 years hence.

An ideal summer for me would be to get Bellingham and keep Salah, fingers crossed it's possible.

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03 Feb 2022 15:08:53
Zed- Yeah, i want us to extend Salahs contract but I can see why FSG are reluctant and the comparison with Ronaldo is a good one, however the stories you hear about Ronaldo is that he’s on another level of dedication to his body than any other player and to be fair his legs went to some extent quite a while ago and he was able to transform himself into a focal point/ almost target man, can Salah do the same? Hopefully so, I could see him as a central striker just obviously different to how Ronaldo plays.

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03 Feb 2022 17:35:07
Good point about Ronaldo's legs, Cobra, but as you said Mo has still got that burst of pace, albeit he doesn't rely solely on it.

I have no idea about the negotiations but, say if Salah wanted a 5 year contract on £350k/ week, I don't see how a compromise couldn't be reached to offer than, but for years 4 and 5 have a base of say £200k/ week and then performance related after that.?

Probably too simplistic :-D.

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04 Feb 2022 09:21:04
Mo’s on 200k a week now. He wants (reported) 400k

I’ve spoken to Carol Vorderman and she has said if Bobby and Milner were to leave that would save the club 320k a week.

Now Mo wants an extra 200 a week so if she takes the 200 away from the 320 it leaves the club with still 120 less than what they are currently paying now in wages.

She also said if we want a vowel that will be an extra 10k.

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04 Feb 2022 13:12:40
Careful JK23, vowel movements at your age can be extremely unpleasant ;-)

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04 Feb 2022 19:24:18
JK- All good until you need to replace Milner and Bobby.

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05 Feb 2022 16:38:25
Diaz and Elliot are their replacements. Or even the young lad from Fulham we are after.

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05 Feb 2022 16:39:01
Prefer to replace them two over replacing Salah mate.

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06 Feb 2022 22:32:47
I hate the “who is going to replace Salah and score is 30 goals a season? ”. How do you know for sure that Salah is going to get 30 goals next season? Or that Jota isn’t? Or Diaz is not going to score 40 goals next season?
How many people thought Mo would score 30 goals on a season when we bought him?
I remember people thinking we were mad for paying £34m for him.

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