Liverpool Rumours Archive October 17 2021

 

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17 Oct 2021 23:15:01
I'm constantly impressed by Declan Rice, and think he will be a top top player. Are Liverpool or any others showing serious interest in him? I know we have Fabinho but I imagine he could play higher up the pitch if necessary.

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{Ed002's Note - Manchester United are keen.}

18 Oct 2021 07:45:02
Why would he take a step down to go to Man U?

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18 Oct 2021 09:29:43
He’ll end up at United or Chelsea, West Ham want £100m for him so he’s not in our price range.

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18 Oct 2021 10:25:20
Who is better Rice or Phillips?

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18 Oct 2021 11:42:36
Phillips better passer. Rice better engine and all round I reckon.

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18 Oct 2021 12:15:53
Really don't get the hype with Rice. £30m player with an inflated fee IMO.

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18 Oct 2021 12:45:31
Not for me. Massively hyped up by the media imo. Not sure what he brings tbh.

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18 Oct 2021 13:10:27
Rice is on a completely different level than Phillips. Phillips is a fine player, but Rice is one of the best talents in England right now.

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18 Oct 2021 14:34:02
Mftonjes can you explain why you think he's one of the best talents? I couldn't disagree more but I respect your opinion 👌.

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18 Oct 2021 15:11:34
I personally think Phillips is too slow and not defensively strong enough, whereas Rice is better defensively, he’s also not particularly quick and is as mobile as the QE2 and I don’t think he’s as clever a defensive player as either Fabinho or Rodri.

Either way he’ll be United’s big summer signing next year and Ole’s final piece of the jigsaw #1426 and counting.

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{Ed0666's Note - Are we comparing Nat Philips to Declan Rice? They play completely different positions

18 Oct 2021 15:14:09
I am impressed with Rice too.
He keeps, carries and distributes the ball excellently.
Better than Gini for sure.
Not the same kind of player as Fab.
Probably more of a Henderson replacement.

The thing is, I have been looking at midfielders in every team and see which can improve Liverpool. Ty
Despite the constant criticism of Liverpool midfield, there aren't that many better I would take.
If you consider KDB, for sure he will improve the team.
Otherwise, I think Rice will do a job (far better than Phillips) .

And we truly miss Gerrard.
If the current team has a Gerrard, we will indisputably the best team in the world.

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{Ed0666's Note - Rice is a superb player goes about his work in an efficient and effective manner and would certainly be a worthy successor to Hendo. The midfield player I would take is Ndombele if Bissouma has been a naughty boy. That fella is mercurial. Lord knows what position he plays because he’s everywhere.

18 Oct 2021 17:10:32
Ndombele or bissouma Ed?

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{Ed0666's Note - I think Ndombele would be perfect for us with the personnel we have

18 Oct 2021 19:25:44
Tielemans without doubt he is different from what we have.

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{Ed0666's Note - inconsistent tho no?

18 Oct 2021 22:11:24
I meant Phillips at Leeds United Ed.

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{Ed0666's Note - thanks for cleaning that up mate. I was beginning to think I’d lost all my faculties. For sure Rice over Philips for me. Rice is a Hendo in the making

18 Oct 2021 22:24:50
Can’t compete with Newcastle. Am sure they’ll want him.

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19 Oct 2021 09:39:59
I agree I think Rice would be a great Hendo successor, it’s a pity he is likely too expensive for us.

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19 Oct 2021 12:28:35
Rice miles better than Gini. I know there are Gini haters on here but get a grip. Rice is slow. Often poorly positioned. Average passer. He’s a slightly better Dier IMO and massively overhyped by the press (for a change) .

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19 Oct 2021 13:07:09
But Ed Ndombele has baggage, too. He seems to have a real attitude problem that's causing issues at Spurs.

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19 Oct 2021 13:11:30
Gandalf, I just love the player. First, he's highly skilled and intelligent. There's something instinctual to the way he plays, especially for a guy who is often in the defensive half. To that point, he's plays difficult positions, ones that often takes a lot of experience to master, and he's doing it really well as a very young player. Also the age is relevant too, because he's playing for a club that isn't well known for development, and he continues to improve each season and likely in a trial by fire situation. I don't watch him regularly, rather a handful of times a season, and every time I've watched him I've thought he's been better than the last time I watched him. There are few players that stand out to me like this.

No player is a perfect player, but it really feels like there is a student of the craft in him and given his base skillset, he has a ton to work with. I see him being one of the best (potentially the best) English midfielders of the next decade. There's a reason why United and supposedly City are both wanting him badly.

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{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath for Rice.}

19 Oct 2021 13:24:33
Ed002 - Ha, I agree. I don't believe there is a fit between him and Liverpool at all, I was just telling Gandalf why I like the player. He's already too high priced for Liverpool.

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19 Oct 2021 20:47:03
for me Ndombele looks great in spells then you don't know his on the pitch a lot of the time for spurs. But when he does put a spell in his great on the ball I don't think the prem suits him. A better version of Naby but not a player for a full season in the prem for me. Bissouma if he has not done anything wrong would be a lot better fit. As for Rice being a Henderson replacement I think I would rather Curtis Jones do that.

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20 Oct 2021 20:13:17
Ed0666 agree with you that rice is the closest thing to Hendo. Tielemans only 24 so consistently would improve don’t you think?

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{Ed0666's Note - he needs to finesse and hone his game some more in my opinion and add consistency

21 Oct 2021 07:41:36
Whilst I think Rice is good I think he is overhyped because he is English. In terms of us I do not think we would be a good fit. He is not a Hendo type player as he doesn’t have the fitness or passing range of Hendo. He would do a job in defensive midfield but the lack of direct creativity from our central midfielders overall makes us quite reliant on the passing range of Fabinho which is very understated. He would be overly expensive and not an upgrade on our strongest 11 which should always be the aim.

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23 Oct 2021 01:20:06
Still hating on Gini. SMH

I don't see why we would sign a midfielder. Even if you are looking for someone to replace Henderson in the future, Curtis is that player for me. If there HAS to be a premier league player out of the ones you have listed, I would like Tielemans. And not because he flukes balls into the top corner against United :)

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23 Oct 2021 20:26:09
Mftonjes

West ham aren't known for nurturing talent?
West ham have nurtured some of the best talent that's played in the premiership over the past 20 years. lampard, ferdinand, defoe, joe cole are only a few.

Declan rice is a great player though and west ham would do well to keep him. tielemans has stagnated in his career considering he was considered amongst the best up coming talent in the world as a teenager though he's still only 24. bellingham is worth a mention if were talking young english midfielders.
Seen that papers are linking us for a move for sterling again now too.

Fact is we have a decent squad that can compete when the majority stays fit.
Id be much happier with a double pivot fab and hendo and drop firmino into AM and play with an out and out striker.

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