Liverpool Rumours Archive December 17 2010

 

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17 Dec 2010 23:32:43
Ah right, so I defend a player and all of a sudden I want a date with him? Poor logic son. You sound like the teenager.

Ah right so he plays well against Chelsea, and he wants to join them? Ok, whatever you think lad. So for the rest of the season I guess if he plays well he wants to join the team he plays well against? You know, maybe Torres does like Chelsea and would join them, no-one knows, but to suggest his performance against Chelsea was an indication of that is quite frankly dumb from my point of view.

Ah, so Torres just stands still the whole game and never makes a run? What a load of garbage. He makes them all the time he just doesn't get the service at all. Like I said, something like 3 clear cut chances in 6 games says it all.

Yes, something is wrong with Torres. I would guess his wife being pregnant contributed, but mainly lack of confidence, and lack of good players/ service around him.

Ah right, so because my opinion isn't the same as yours it is inconclusive? (Yet you seem to "know" he wants to leave and don't know him personally at all) How condescending. Atleast I have put forward an arguement and backed it up with validity. And no, you haven't answered all of my points of put something forward against them you have ignored parts so no point talking to you about this issue.

We'll agree to disagree.

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You haven't justified anything. Your telling me he makes runs and doesn't stand still. Welll I'm telling you that I'd be pulling him off on a sunday morning if he was in my team sherking and ambling around like he has been for Liverpool.

What a shame poor old Fernando has had the inconvenience of his wife having a bun in the oven. I'll have a word with my gaffer and i'll see if he'll let me take my foot off the gas for six months while my mrs is pregnant.

I never said I know he wants to leave I said it was my opinion based on his demenaour. I further stated that any opinion on Torres is merely conjecture, including both mine and yours.

Your whole defence of Torres is based upon his apparent lack of confidence. Granted, its an opinion that can't be ruled out, we'll have to wait and see. You also go on to imply that we have a lack of good players. Well next time he gets the ball to his feet and the pass gets intercepted because he's not interested, we'll blame it on the lack of quality surroundings. Theres no excuse for lazyness, interpret it as you wish but if you'd played at a good standard of football you'd have the ability to spot a player who's hiding.
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Yes I have. I have made my point and given my reasons for it which I regard as valid. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm basing my point on something. Yes, I am telling you he makes runs, because he sure as hell doesn't stand static for 90minutes. The chances he's missed recently, didn't he make runs for those to be created?

I'm not saying that's the reason, and I'm not saying it gives Torres an excuse not to play well but it's bound to have some bearing, when my missus was expecting the bambinos it was stressful for me to work - it was like having two jobs, one as a carer for her! Slaving for her, driving her around, constantly worrying about her health, not to forget the constant bickering. Torres is a human being also, he was probably experiencing those kind of things.

Why are you talking about interceptions now? If Torres gets the ball and loses it of course its his fault. But the job of the wingers and midfielders are to create chances for the strikers, and they aren't doing that. When a striker gets no service, he won't score as often.

Look buddy, we obviously disagree on the issue and we'll never agree. And I'm sure many more like us disagree on exactly the same topic. We'll agree on one thing, we want what's best for our club, and we both want Torres back to his best and banging them in again.

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17 Dec 2010 23:31:44
A quick messsage in the hope of trying to clear up the ongoing saga re' Torres and his well documented/ guesswork attitude.
As Macca often notes he is unhappy, you don't have to be a body language expert to see that, however the reasons are pure conjucture.
The ressie that gives me info, mostly uninteresting stuff to be honest, is confident that Torres is unhappy with Roy and his excuse for tactics primarily. His loyalty to the club hasn't changed as yet but he is becoming tired of a lack of progress. In terms of playing style our current pattern just doesn't get the best from Torres regardless of who plays up top with him, he's too often left isolated or challenging for hoofs up the field and as a consequence having to come deeper to recieve the ball, something he was forced to do last season aswell thus limiting his ability to have an impact in our final 3rd of the pitch. Paul Tomkins has written an interesting piece on this subject, it's worth a read.
I don't think for one minute that he needs to put himself in the shop window, he's already regarded as one of, if not the best striker in the world when fully fit.
Things may change in the summer, especially if old roy remains(highly doubtfull) but as i posted i few weeks back he has indicated that if decisive action is taken quickly over the summer he will remain at anfield, but he wants to see vast improvements in investment.
No other stuff to share but hope that this may clarify a few things.
Roger over and out

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17 Dec 2010 23:18:54
I was just watching kop talk on tv and the impression im getting is none of the star players want to come to lfc and we should sign 2 or 3 squad players such as carlton cole and 1 0r 2 more ed why would we settle 4 this if we are happy 2 b a mid table team then sign average players and leave torres , reine, gearrd sign 4 better teams with title chances and we need 2 stop paying silly wages 2 players such as joe cole 100 grand a week i mean come on what a waste we don't need star players 2 b mid table just very average players

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17 Dec 2010 23:18:13
I agree Blair Mayne. No player is bigger than the club and if Torres wants to leave then so be it, provided our requirements are matched (asking price or potential swap deals).

As you can see below, my arguments are to do with another point.

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17 Dec 2010 23:05:31
17 Dec 2010 22:42:17
You want to get real mate. Have you been a game this season or are your opinions based on what you see on the telly. I havn't missed a home game for 7 years and to say he's been closing defenders down and working hard is complete eye wash. he's been bone idol. He doesn't break sweat, that's the problem. You can accept somebody putting a shift in and it just not happening but he's not interested. Yes I did see the goals against chelsea, ironically he played brilliant in that game. I'm no body language expert, but his lack of interest is signalling something negative. I hope i'm 100% wrong, lets just hope we can get past January with him still at the club. Hopefully during the summer we can then attract the right type of player to improve the team. NESV have made bold statements about being here for the LONG TERM. Torres times now, he hasn't got 2 or 3 years, he's at his prime now and if he wants silverware he needs to make it happen now. Is he going to get that at Liverpool?
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Yes, I've been to many games this season. And how do you know it is a lack of interest? You said you don't know Torres personally thus it is simply impossible for you to know this, unless your benine gifts expand to mind reading. How do you know his body language isn't down to lack of confidence? I've seen that in many a player at Liverpool since I can remember. What's so ironic about him playing well against Chelsea? You suggested earlier that he wanted to impress Chelsea as potential suitors? (correct me if I'm wrong) but if that is the case then that is totally stupid. Everyone knows his ability. Maybe he was up for the game, confident? See, you just jump to silly conclusions and look at the negatives.

And read my last post to you. I believe it was extremly valid what I wrote yet you simply ignored it whereas I have addressed each point you make.

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I wish I was mates with him as I'd try and sort a date out for you. Your commenting like a naive love sick teenager.

I made the assertion about his performance against Chelsea precicesly to support my opinion that he wants to leave Liverpool for Chelsea. All other games this season Torres has put in lack lustre performances consistent with somebody going through the motions.

I have adressed the points you've made in your posts. They collectively say the same thing. Your saying get off his back because he might be suffering from a confidence crisis. Well I don't agree, you don't need bag fulls of confidence to put effort in. As I said earlier Ngog, as poor a finisher as he is and as much as he lacks pace, at least the lad ceates his own angles and gambles for possesion to create his own space.

As much as you don't want to accept it, something is clearly wrong with Torres. Any opinion on Torres is pure conjecture, including yours. My opinions based on his general demeanour during matches.
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Ah right, so I defend a player and all of a sudden I want a date with him? Poor logic son. You sound like the teenager.

Ah right so he plays well against Chelsea, and he wants to join them? Ok, whatever you think lad. So for the rest of the season I guess if he plays well he wants to join the team he plays well against? You know, maybe Torres does like Chelsea and would join them, no-one knows, but to suggest his performance against Chelsea was an indication of that is quite frankly dumb from my point of view.

Ah, so Torres just stands still the whole game and never makes a run? What a load of garbage. He makes them all the time he just doesn't get the service at all. Like I said, something like 3 clear cut chances in 6 games says it all.

Yes, something is wrong with Torres. I would guess his wife being pregnant contributed, but mainly lack of confidence, and lack of good players/ service around him.

Ah right, so because my opinion isn't the same as yours it is inconclusive? (Yet you seem to "know" he wants to leave and don't know him personally at all) How condescending. Atleast I have put forward an arguement and backed it up with validity. And no, you haven't answered all of my points of put something forward against them you have ignored parts so no point talking to you about this issue.

We'll agree to disagree.
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Looking in from a far if Torres wants to go (which i think he does) then let him go. I posted during the summer when he was being heavily linked to Chelsea. I said IF Chelsea offered 50-60 mill for him i'd take it and run. Why? because we can get another striker in and 2 half decent wingers which we badly need. We all know the squad isn't big enough so IF Torres wants to go then let him and get 2-3 world class players for the money we receive for him.

Like Macca said IF he wants to go then get rid we are LFC.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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17 Dec 2010 23:03:37
Why are we being linked to this Russian full-back? Yes he is a good player, but don't we already have an international full-back in Glen Johnson? Also at 28 years of age, he does not exactly fit the new policy for bringing in youth. Any thoughts on this?
Anfield Rapstar


mate, glen johnson isn't gd enough. he is terrible defensively

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17 Dec 2010 22:55:39
Furthermore, his lack of chances are down to his static presence up front. At least when Ngog comes on he creates his own angles and gambles to create space. Unfortunately Ngog couldn't hit a barn door and has no pace. So I don't no what your seeing when you say Torres works hard as i;m certainly not seeing that or I would'nt feel the need to be critical.
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Absolute garbage. He's had no service this season from the wide areas or nothing. He's not superman, he can't just create chances on his own. Fickle, fickle fans.

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Fickle fans! An observation by someone who's played at a high standard of football son and watched Liverpool for years. Granted he isn't getting the wide service but he doesn't necessarily need it. The midfield shape and the ball retention strategy would create chances if he made more off an effort to create space.
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What ever you say close friend of Torres, with you expert body language reading skills and mind reading abilities.

Wow! You've watched Liverpool for years? Have a gold star. What Reds fan hasn't?

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17 Dec 2010 22:52:46
Cant see Torres leaving in january TBH barca don't need him and chelsea , well lets just say he would rather join lille in france the way there playing

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17 Dec 2010 22:48:31
Why are we being linked to this Russian full-back? Yes he is a good player, but don't we already have an international full-back in Glen Johnson? Also at 28 years of age, he does not exactly fit the new policy for bringing in youth. Any thoughts on this?
Anfield Rapstar

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17 Dec 2010 22:46:31
Hi Ed thanks for posting just asking why you think no chance on Sanchez? Hasn't he fell out with club and looking for a move? Or is it the fee?

{Editor's Note: If he moves to England, which I doubt, he has an interest from Manchester United. Liverpool would not be an option.}

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17 Dec 2010 22:42:17
You want to get real mate. Have you been a game this season or are your opinions based on what you see on the telly. I havn't missed a home game for 7 years and to say he's been closing defenders down and working hard is complete eye wash. he's been bone idol. He doesn't break sweat, that's the problem. You can accept somebody putting a shift in and it just not happening but he's not interested. Yes I did see the goals against chelsea, ironically he played brilliant in that game. I'm no body language expert, but his lack of interest is signalling something negative. I hope i'm 100% wrong, lets just hope we can get past January with him still at the club. Hopefully during the summer we can then attract the right type of player to improve the team. NESV have made bold statements about being here for the LONG TERM. Torres times now, he hasn't got 2 or 3 years, he's at his prime now and if he wants silverware he needs to make it happen now. Is he going to get that at Liverpool?
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Yes, I've been to many games this season. And how do you know it is a lack of interest? You said you don't know Torres personally thus it is simply impossible for you to know this, unless your benine gifts expand to mind reading. How do you know his body language isn't down to lack of confidence? I've seen that in many a player at Liverpool since I can remember. What's so ironic about him playing well against Chelsea? You suggested earlier that he wanted to impress Chelsea as potential suitors? (correct me if I'm wrong) but if that is the case then that is totally stupid. Everyone knows his ability. Maybe he was up for the game, confident? See, you just jump to silly conclusions and look at the negatives.

And read my last post to you. I believe it was extremly valid what I wrote yet you simply ignored it whereas I have addressed each point you make.

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I wish I was mates with him as I'd try and sort a date out for you. Your commenting like a naive love sick teenager.

I made the assertion about his performance against Chelsea precicesly to support my opinion that he wants to leave Liverpool for Chelsea. All other games this season Torres has put in lack lustre performances consistent with somebody going through the motions.

I have adressed the points you've made in your posts. They collectively say the same thing. Your saying get off his back because he might be suffering from a confidence crisis. Well I don't agree, you don't need bag fulls of confidence to put effort in. As I said earlier Ngog, as poor a finisher as he is and as much as he lacks pace, at least the lad ceates his own angles and gambles for possesion to create his own space.

As much as you don't want to accept it, something is clearly wrong with Torres. Any opinion on Torres is pure conjecture, including yours. My opinions based on his general demeanour during matches.
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Ah right, so I defend a player and all of a sudden I want a date with him? Poor logic son. You sound like the teenager.

Ah right so he plays well against Chelsea, and he wants to join them? Ok, whatever you think lad. So for the rest of the season I guess if he plays well he wants to join the team he plays well against? You know, maybe Torres does like Chelsea and would join them, no-one knows, but to suggest his performance against Chelsea was an indication of that is quite frankly dumb from my point of view.

Ah, so Torres just stands still the whole game and never makes a run? What a load of garbage. He makes them all the time he just doesn't get the service at all. Like I said, something like 3 clear cut chances in 6 games says it all.

Yes, something is wrong with Torres. I would guess his wife being pregnant contributed, but mainly lack of confidence, and lack of good players/ service around him.

Ah right, so because my opinion isn't the same as yours it is inconclusive? (Yet you seem to "know" he wants to leave and don't know him personally at all) How condescending. Atleast I have put forward an arguement and backed it up with validity. And no, you haven't answered all of my points of put something forward against them you have ignored parts so no point talking to you about this issue.

We'll agree to disagree.

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17 Dec 2010 22:39:07
Absolute garbage. He's had no service this season from the wide areas or nothing. He's not superman, he can't just create chances on his own. Fickle, fickle fans.

Your bang on mate. Against Chelsea when Kuyt was up there with him he looked sharp coz he had the service. Stikers rely on service. Torres has none

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He looked sharp against Chelsea as he used that game as a potential wage negotiating tool. He put a shift in because of his own self interests. Other games he's ambled around the pitch like a spoilt brat looking for his dummy and to keep his price tag at sensible levels.

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17 Dec 2010 22:33:33
Furthermore, his lack of chances are down to his static presence up front. At least when Ngog comes on he creates his own angles and gambles to create space. Unfortunately Ngog couldn't hit a barn door and has no pace. So I don't no what your seeing when you say Torres works hard as i;m certainly not seeing that or I would'nt feel the need to be critical.
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Absolute garbage. He's had no service this season from the wide areas or nothing. He's not superman, he can't just create chances on his own. Fickle, fickle fans.

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Fickle fans! An observation by someone who's played at a high standard of football son and watched Liverpool for years. Granted he isn't getting the wide service but he doesn't necessarily need it. The midfield shape and the ball retention strategy would create chances if he made more off an effort to create space.

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17 Dec 2010 22:31:57
Furthermore, his lack of chances are down to his static presence up front. At least when Ngog comes on he creates his own angles and gambles to create space. Unfortunately Ngog couldn't hit a barn door and has no pace. So I don't no what your seeing when you say Torres works hard as i;m certainly not seeing that or I would'nt feel the need to be critical.
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Absolute garbage. He's had no service this season from the wide areas or nothing. He's not superman, he can't just create chances on his own. Fickle, fickle fans.
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yeah i agree how many times does the lad have to save liverpool he came here to win but all we did is sale some great players and not replace them can you say you'd be at your best week in week out when you play in a team that's more interested in defending rather than attacking.
king henry

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17 Dec 2010 22:30:07
Hi Ed just wanted your opinion on what the chances would be of us landing L. Suarez from Ajax and A. Sanchez from Udinese in January? Very possible we could land both for 25 million to 28 million combined fee maybe less considering financial troubles of both clubs. B oth would be great additions to our squad wouldn't you agree. With the crap we've had to tolerate this season in regards to creative play on the pitch these two would be a breath of fresh air to the side. I know Suarez has some previous for some outrageous antics i.e. Biting , but hopefully he's learned a lesson by now.

{Editor's Note: Possibly Suarez but I don't see any chance of Sanchez.}

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17 Dec 2010 22:29:56
Do people forget that after winning the World Cup with Spain, Fernando Torres celebrated with a Liverpool scarf? His problem is the utter tripe that surrounds him on the field and in the dug out! Gerrard, Riena, Torres and Lucas are the only ones who can do something at the moment.

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17 Dec 2010 22:27:16
Hay ed were these rumours coming from about torres leaving

{Editor's Note: They are simply rumours.}

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17 Dec 2010 22:26:43
Absolute garbage. He's had no service this season from the wide areas or nothing. He's not superman, he can't just create chances on his own. Fickle, fickle fans.

Your bang on mate. Against Chelsea when Kuyt was up there with him he looked sharp coz he had the service. Stikers rely on service. Torres has none

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17 Dec 2010 22:26:02
You want to get real mate. Have you been a game this season or are your opinions based on what you see on the telly. I havn't missed a home game for 7 years and to say he's been closing defenders down and working hard is complete eye wash. he's been bone idol. He doesn't break sweat, that's the problem. You can accept somebody putting a shift in and it just not happening but he's not interested. Yes I did see the goals against chelsea, ironically he played brilliant in that game. I'm no body language expert, but his lack of interest is signalling something negative. I hope i'm 100% wrong, lets just hope we can get past January with him still at the club. Hopefully during the summer we can then attract the right type of player to improve the team. NESV have made bold statements about being here for the LONG TERM. Torres times now, he hasn't got 2 or 3 years, he's at his prime now and if he wants silverware he needs to make it happen now. Is he going to get that at Liverpool?
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Yes, I've been to many games this season. And how do you know it is a lack of interest? You said you don't know Torres personally thus it is simply impossible for you to know this, unless your benine gifts expand to mind reading. How do you know his body language isn't down to lack of confidence? I've seen that in many a player at Liverpool since I can remember. What's so ironic about him playing well against Chelsea? You suggested earlier that he wanted to impress Chelsea as potential suitors? (correct me if I'm wrong) but if that is the case then that is totally stupid. Everyone knows his ability. Maybe he was up for the game, confident? See, you just jump to silly conclusions and look at the negatives.

And read my last post to you. I believe it was extremly valid what I wrote yet you simply ignored it whereas I have addressed each point you make.

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I wish I was mates with him as I'd try and sort a date out for you. Your commenting like a naive love sick teenager.

I made the assertion about his performance against Chelsea precicesly to support my opinion that he wants to leave Liverpool for Chelsea. All other games this season Torres has put in lack lustre performances consistent with somebody going through the motions.

I have adressed the points you've made in your posts. They collectively say the same thing. Your saying get off his back because he might be suffering from a confidence crisis. Well I don't agree, you don't need bag fulls of confidence to put effort in. As I said earlier Ngog, as poor a finisher as he is and as much as he lacks pace, at least the lad ceates his own angles and gambles for possesion to create his own space.

As much as you don't want to accept it, something is clearly wrong with Torres. Any opinion on Torres is pure conjecture, including yours. My opinions based on his general demeanour during matches.

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17 Dec 2010 22:22:20
Torres to be partnered by Babel on Saturday?

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17 Dec 2010 22:18:38
* * BREAKING NEWS* *

You have all just made the tabloids day. . . Headlines over the next few days will be Torres to Quit Anfield! All because you believe you have an idea about whats going on after watching a guy for a whole 90 minutes every week!

Honestly love having a giggle at some of the posts. You sound like paranoid teenagers worried about their girlfriends talking to another guy!

ha ha ha keep it up I need a good laugh at the minute!

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17 Dec 2010 22:12:55
Yes, I've been to many games this season. And how do you know it is a lack of interest? You said you don't know Torres personally thus it is simply impossible for you to know this, unless your benine gifts expand to mind reading. How do you know his body language isn't down to lack of confidence? I've seen that in many a player at Liverpool since I can remember. What's so ironic about him playing well against Chelsea? You suggested earlier that he wanted to impress Chelsea as potential suitors? (correct me if I'm wrong) but if that is the case then that is totally stupid. Everyone knows his ability. Maybe he was up for the game, confident? See, you just jump to silly conclusions and look at the negatives.

And read my last post to you. I believe it was extremly valid what I wrote yet you simply ignored it whereas I have addressed each point you make._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _


Torres is not interested, i told you this 2 weeks ago and people said i was all doom and gloom.

I know he is not interested because i have been told by the people who play with him.

Surely by know you should know that i try and pass on all the facts that i am told. Good or bad. .

We are Liverpool and if he wants out , then get rid.

Macca

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17 Dec 2010 22:08:06
Furthermore, his lack of chances are down to his static presence up front. At least when Ngog comes on he creates his own angles and gambles to create space. Unfortunately Ngog couldn't hit a barn door and has no pace. So I don't no what your seeing when you say Torres works hard as i;m certainly not seeing that or I would'nt feel the need to be critical.
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Absolute garbage. He's had no service this season from the wide areas or nothing. He's not superman, he can't just create chances on his own. Fickle, fickle fans.

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17 Dec 2010 22:04:27
"Hate it when people just assume it's because he wants to leave. And I also hate it when he's singled out for criticism. Why aren't people having a pop at others who aren't performing? Maybe if Torres had some decent service he'd be scoring more goals. In the last 6 games he's only had like 3 clear cut chances which is absolutly abismal to say the least."

Any fool watching us play at the moment knows Torres has no more interest in us. He isn't a Liverpool fan, the armband has nothing to do with us. His performances of late show he isn't interested. I know this is painful to hear but he isn't Rush, Fowler etc, he is a proffessional footballer and wants to win trophies and he doesn't think he will do that with us and neither do I.
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Oh so we've got someone else here who is good mates with Torres. Ask him for an autograph for me would you?

And do show me where I mentioned his armband?

People just jumping to conclusions and making assumpions. If we were top of table and he was out of form it would be totally different - yous would be saying he's just not confident.

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17 Dec 2010 21:57:23
You want to get real mate. Have you been a game this season or are your opinions based on what you see on the telly. I havn't missed a home game for 7 years and to say he's been closing defenders down and working hard is complete eye wash. he's been bone idol. He doesn't break sweat, that's the problem. You can accept somebody putting a shift in and it just not happening but he's not interested. Yes I did see the goals against chelsea, ironically he played brilliant in that game. I'm no body language expert, but his lack of interest is signalling something negative. I hope i'm 100% wrong, lets just hope we can get past January with him still at the club. Hopefully during the summer we can then attract the right type of player to improve the team. NESV have made bold statements about being here for the LONG TERM. Torres times now, he hasn't got 2 or 3 years, he's at his prime now and if he wants silverware he needs to make it happen now. Is he going to get that at Liverpool?
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Yes, I've been to many games this season. And how do you know it is a lack of interest? You said you don't know Torres personally thus it is simply impossible for you to know this, unless your benine gifts expand to mind reading. How do you know his body language isn't down to lack of confidence? I've seen that in many a player at Liverpool since I can remember. What's so ironic about him playing well against Chelsea? You suggested earlier that he wanted to impress Chelsea as potential suitors? (correct me if I'm wrong) but if that is the case then that is totally stupid. Everyone knows his ability. Maybe he was up for the game, confident? See, you just jump to silly conclusions and look at the negatives.

And read my last post to you. I believe it was extremly valid what I wrote yet you simply ignored it whereas I have addressed each point you make.

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17 Dec 2010 21:46:53
Furthermore, his lack of chances are down to his static presence up front. At least when Ngog comes on he creates his own angles and gambles to create space. Unfortunately Ngog couldn't hit a barn door and has no pace. So I don't no what your seeing when you say Torres works hard as i;m certainly not seeing that or I would'nt feel the need to be critical.

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17 Dec 2010 21:41:07
You want to get real mate. Have you been a game this season or are your opinions based on what you see on the telly. I havn't missed a home game for 7 years and to say he's been closing defenders down and working hard is complete eye wash. he's been bone idol. He doesn't break sweat, that's the problem. You can accept somebody putting a shift in and it just not happening but he's not interested. Yes I did see the goals against chelsea, ironically he played brilliant in that game. I'm no body language expert, but his lack of interest is signalling something negative. I hope i'm 100% wrong, lets just hope we can get past January with him still at the club. Hopefully during the summer we can then attract the right type of player to improve the team. NESV have made bold statements about being here for the LONG TERM. Torres times now, he hasn't got 2 or 3 years, he's at his prime now and if he wants silverware he needs to make it happen now. Is he going to get that at Liverpool?

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17 Dec 2010 21:38:36
4 position hodgson want buy:

winger-ryad boudebouz
striker-lavezzi
right back-torosidis
center back-mexes

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17 Dec 2010 21:36:26
"Hate it when people just assume it's because he wants to leave. And I also hate it when he's singled out for criticism. Why aren't people having a pop at others who aren't performing? Maybe if Torres had some decent service he'd be scoring more goals. In the last 6 games he's only had like 3 clear cut chances which is absolutly abismal to say the least."

Any fool watching us play at the moment knows Torres has no more interest in us. He isn't a Liverpool fan, the armband has nothing to do with us. His performances of late show he isn't interested. I know this is painful to hear but he isn't Rush, Fowler etc, he is a proffessional footballer and wants to win trophies and he doesn't think he will do that with us and neither do I.

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17 Dec 2010 21:25:25
No I don't know him personally, but I've played football at a good enough level to know when a players hiding. Plus the body language is clear for all to see.

Watch closely his attempts at heading the ball tomorrow if your at the game tomorrow. He doesn't even challenge. Neither does he meet the ball any more, he waits for the ball to arrive at his feet. clear examples of hiding because he's pre-occupied with something else.
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Oh, body language expert now are we? What a magnificent human being.

I see him chasing defenders and closing them down, trying to win the ball and stuff like that. So he's working hard (but of course fickle people will miss that out). He knows he's not playing his best, and players who are low on confidence don't look happy, and never smile. Remember his goals against Chelsea? He was delighted and had a beaming smile, as was the case against Wigan. I'm sure when he gets a goal, gets confident and gets back on form his smile will return.

Hate it when people just assume it's because he wants to leave. And I also hate it when he's singled out for criticism. Why aren't people having a pop at others who aren't performing? Maybe if Torres had some decent service he'd be scoring more goals. In the last 6 games he's only had like 3 clear cut chances which is absolutly abismal to say the least.

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17 Dec 2010 21:14:57
Ed, you mention that the club will skip over the left back problem if a buyer doesn't come in for Insua. Well that's set in stone then, the burger munchers on his way back. There's not a cat in hells chance that a prudent chairman would part with £50 for that t* t. He'll come back carry on frequenting the city's finer restaurants to get better quality burgers and stroll around the pitch once or twice a week ball watching.

{Editor's Note: My point exactly. If he comes back that will be three left backs - why buy another?}

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17 Dec 2010 21:14:38
Hey ed was just wondering with liverpool havin such a gud relationship with borrusia monchen gladbach(consistent friendlies) wat are our chances of signing marko reus and how much do u think he wud cost? cheers

red thriller

{Editor's Note: He is young and I can't see him moving to a club where he would probably not get a game.}

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17 Dec 2010 21:07:05
No I don't know him personally, but I've played football at a good enough level to know when a players hiding. Plus the body language is clear for all to see.

Watch closely his attempts at heading the ball tomorrow if your at the game tomorrow. He doesn't even challenge. Neither does he meet the ball any more, he waits for the ball to arrive at his feet. clear examples of hiding because he's pre-occupied with something else.

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17 Dec 2010 20:59:11
I don't think the comment made about Torres dip in form to lower his value is far off the mark. He's been a disgrace this season, no ifs and buts he's behaving like a pampered fairy. All this flannel about fitness levels and match fitness. What a load of eye wash. He turned it on against Chelsa to let them know what he's all about, he won that game himself as he was interested. All his spanish muckers are down the road at Arsenal and he'd have a whale of a time living in the smoke. He's hell bent on Chelski. No excuses for his limp attempts at winning headers and meeting the ball before the defender, he's just not interested. Face it chaps the boy wants out.
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17 Dec 2010 20:54:35
I don't think the comment made about Torres dip in form to lower his value is far off the mark. He's been a disgrace this season, no ifs and buts he's behaving like a pampered fairy. All this flannel about fitness levels and match fitness. What a load of eye wash. He turned it on against Chelsa to let them know what he's all about, he won that game himself as he was interested. All his spanish muckers are down the road at Arsenal and he'd have a whale of a time living in the smoke. He's hell bent on Chelski. No excuses for his limp attempts at winning headers and meeting the ball before the defender, he's just not interested. Face it chaps the boy wants out.

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17 Dec 2010 20:50:30
The Insua in and Knochesky out statement. Does the fellow who wrote this remember the fat, burger munching ball watcher. Insua has o be the worst left back i've had the misfortune of watching on a football pitch. Koncheski isn't exactly Roberto carlos but he's a couple of levels above that useless, fat lump


cmon i thought he was pretty gd rly.any thoughts on insua's abilities ed? better than H@(K!NG KONCH! !

{Editor's Note: Yeah, probably. The issue is that unless Insua has a buyer lined up for January the club will most probably not consider the left back role as needing any sort of attention.}

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17 Dec 2010 20:41:23
By the way Rod Fanni's signed for Marseille.

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17 Dec 2010 20:39:12
The Insua in and Knochesky out statement. Does the fellow who wrote this remember the fat, burger munching ball watcher. Insua has o be the worst left back i've had the misfortune of watching on a football pitch. Koncheski isn't exactly Roberto carlos but he's a couple of levels above that useless, fat lump.

{Editor's Note: He is expected to return in January though.}

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17 Dec 2010 20:35:09
Sorry to post this folks its gonna be all over the sunday papers, torres wants to leave strong possibility its citeh, however he wants to go chelski-gutted but the way his body language was at st.james's I say cash him in he doesn't want to be here let him go.

whatt about his body language? he was frustrated because we played carp, ddi you see him when we scored? did you see him against utrecht? having a laugh on the bench? he will probably stay and see what nesv do for us

me14

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m8, torres aint gonna go 2 city cos he loves pool 2 much, the only place he cd go is atletico madrid or V WEAK POSSIBILITY ITALY. he will not go 2 barca cos thts y he left atletico, wen they thrashed atletico and he realised they were so far behind. he h8s real madrid. so basically he will not stay in PL IF he goes it wd be atletico and we cd get aguero from it. he will not go in january IF he goes it wd be in summer, and he LOVES pool.
wat u think bout this ed?

{Editor's Note: If he were to leave there would certainly be a number of options open to him. It would be naïve to think he would turn any down completely - perhaps Real Madrid would be an absolute no-go. An exchange for Aguero is never going to happen.}

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17 Dec 2010 20:34:42
The Didier Deschamps statement seems reasonable and I would certainly welcome this if it had substance behind it.

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17 Dec 2010 20:09:23
Robbie Fowler has been offered the chance to become an ambassador for Liverpool and Dalglish has been offered a massive new role within the club.

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17 Dec 2010 20:00:47
Sorry to post this folks its gonna be all over the sunday papers, torres wants to leave strong possibility its citeh, however he wants to go chelski-gutted but the way his body language was at st.james's I say cash him in he doesn't want to be here let him go.

whatt about his body language? he was frustrated because we played carp, ddi you see him when we scored? did you see him against utrecht? having a laugh on the bench? he will probably stay and see what nesv do for us

me14

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17 Dec 2010 19:56:20
The first role of the CEO will be to thoroughly conduct a search for a new manager at the end of the season. I have been told that Damien Comolli has highly recommended Didier Deschamps to Tom Werner as well.

Cannot reveal my contact, but trust me on this one!

Jay

Absolutely spot on mate. .

Macca

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17 Dec 2010 19:38:17
Sorry to post this folks its gonna be all over the sunday papers, torres wants to leave strong possibility its citeh, however he wants to go chelski-gutted but the way his body language was at st.james's I say cash him in he doesn't want to be here let him go
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All i can say is - AS CLOSE TO THE WORLD RECORD FEE AS POSSIBLE - £60m +


Totally agree and if this is true in anyway then A. Johnson has got to be part of the deal!

PJ RED

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17 Dec 2010 19:31:58
Insua In and Konchesky out for F* k's sake !

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17 Dec 2010 19:03:37
17 Dec 2010 17:00:47
OUTS:
poulsen 2m
babel 6m
owners 35m
Total: 43m

INS:
insua recall
honda 10m
suarez 15m
cazorla 9m
fanni 5m
Total: 39m

Reina, Fanni, Carragher, Agger, Aurelio, Cazorla, Gerrard, Meireles, Honda, Torres, Suarez

E.H LFC


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Sorry to ruin your glory mate but Rod Fanni has already agreed to join Marseille. Santi Cazorla would cost closer to £12m and under the terms of Insua's contract, he cannot be recalled as no recall clause was put into the loan contract.

I haven't heard any names yet, but Liverpool have now narrowed the shortlist for a new CEO to 5 people, 2 are apparently based in Britain already, although I haven't been told they are already affiliated with a club. The appointment is expected to be made as early into the new year as possible, March the latest.

The first role of the CEO will be to thoroughly conduct a search for a new manager at the end of the season. I have been told that Damien Comolli has highly recommended Didier Deschamps to Tom Werner as well.

Cannot reveal my contact, but trust me on this one!

Jay

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17 Dec 2010 18:54:24
Is there any truth in the Adebayor loan rumours to Liverpool?

Ed? {ed's note - I don't believe so, no.}

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17 Dec 2010 18:46:15
Alexis Sanchez from Udinese
Lavezzi from Napoli
Keisuke Honda from CSKA
Scott Dann from Brum

Woy out, Deschamps in.

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17 Dec 2010 18:40:17
Just read that witches comments about us 'scum'.

Won't be scum when your opening your expensive Christmas presents off Paul bought with OUR hard earned money will we you Fu@king pikey.
Your son looks cross-bred anyway.

The rumours about scotty dann are right. We have sniffed around him, and I personally know he'd walk from St Andrews to Anfield

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17 Dec 2010 18:40:07
Ferry Hill Red. .

"And I wondered why Steven Gerrard didn't seem interested this season? Are you for real? What 7 goals in 12 games? Still the best midfielder in the league by a country mile. . jog on mate. .

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17 Dec 2010 18:33:49
17 Dec 2010 18:28:40
17 Dec 2010 18:19:18
17 Dec 2010 18:11:57
Liverpool are preparing a big bid (12mil) for Leighton Baines. Everton will no doubt be unhappy but the money is to good to turn down. Lescott is on the radar also. He will be available at a knock down price. A winger and a striker will also be bought. My source didn't have any names in mind for them tho.
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I reckon Lescott might be a useful addition especially at under £10m.£12 mil for Leighton Baines! ! ! ! come on! the board have told you that they are going to bid for him (that bit i don't believe) for £12 mil! (even more unbelievable)?

Lescott possibly would be a good addition, but Baines? Please Ed, please don't tell me you believed this clown?

RENNIE {ed's note - I never click any of the buttons, though I do think Baines is a good player, I don't see him joining us for 12m.}
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I reckon Lescott might be a useful addition especially at under £10m was my opinion and reply to the original post. At no point did I comment on Baines.

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17 Dec 2010 18:32:15
Ed's note - about as much chance as there is of me dating Carol Konchesky mate.}



high possibilty then, although dating may not be the word. . . quickie in the back seat and then ou give her a tenner. {ed's note - I take it you haven't seen her then? She would have to pay me a lot more than a tenner.....}

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17 Dec 2010 18:28:40
17 Dec 2010 18:19:18
17 Dec 2010 18:11:57
Liverpool are preparing a big bid (12mil) for Leighton Baines. Everton will no doubt be unhappy but the money is to good to turn down. Lescott is on the radar also. He will be available at a knock down price. A winger and a striker will also be bought. My source didn't have any names in mind for them tho.
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I reckon Lescott might be a useful addition especially at under £10m.£12 mil for Leighton Baines! ! ! ! ! ! ! come on! the board have told you that they are going to bid for him (that bit i don't believe) for £12 mil! (even more unbelievable)?

Lescott possibly would be a good addition, but Baines? Please Ed, please don't tell me you believed this clown?

RENNIE {ed's note - I never click any of the buttons, though I do think Baines is a good player, I don't see him joining us for 12m.}

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17 Dec 2010 18:19:18
17 Dec 2010 18:11:57
Liverpool are preparing a big bid (12mil) for Leighton Baines. Everton will no doubt be unhappy but the money is to good to turn down. Lescott is on the radar also. He will be available at a knock down price. A winger and a striker will also be bought. My source didn't have any names in mind for them tho.
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I reckon Lescott might be a useful addition especially at under £10m.

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17 Dec 2010 18:17:04
Gerrard and Alonso are friends, They want to play together again. Alonso will rejoin Liverpool to be reunited with Gerrard in the summer. Nesv have set £20mil aside to make it happen. Real Madrid will replace Alonso with Eden Hazard. My source is a reputable sports agent based in London.

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17 Dec 2010 18:16:05
It sounds to me that Carol as the same defensive qualities as her son.S* * .

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17 Dec 2010 18:11:57
Liverpool are preparing a big bid (12mil) for Leighton Baines. Everton will no doubt be unhappy but the money is to good to turn down. Lescott is on the radar also. He will be available at a knock down price. A winger and a striker will also be bought. My source didn't have any names in mind for them tho.

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17 Dec 2010 18:08:50
17 Dec 2010 17:47:12
Sorry to post this folks its gonna be all over the sunday papers, torres wants to leave strong possibility its citeh, however he wants to go chelski-gutted but the way his body language was at st.james's I say cash him in he doesn't want to be here let him go
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All i can say is - AS CLOSE TO THE WORLD RECORD FEE AS POSSIBLE - £60m +

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17 Dec 2010 18:06:55
And the nominations for the Queen of the Kop are;

-Linda Henry
-Ollala Torres
-Glen Johnson
-Alex Curran
-CAROL KONCHESKY

I am a Liverpool fan from London and the way I see it she is calling every Liverpool fan around the world scum. Every Liverpool fan is so passionate about our club; some African fans walk for miles to watch us on the television or listen to us on the radio. She should be honoured for her son to play for us.
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I don't want Konchesky to play (or attempt to play) for Liverpool again until he issues an apology for these remarks. This is Liverpool not Charlton or Fulham. Bring back Insua anyway.

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17 Dec 2010 18:05:44
Ed, i could be way off course, but do you think there may be the slightest chance, the reason behind the poor form of torres is to lower his transfer valuation? there is only one club who could afford him when he is playing at top form and i can't see him going to city. imo his value has maybe halved at the moment, and has opened the door to a host of top clubs across europe. {ed's note - about as much chance as there is of me dating Carol Konchesky mate.}

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17 Dec 2010 17:57:44
Just heard. Stevie g for alonso in straight swap deal. It would appear jose has finally got his man and I wondered why Stevie doesn't appear interested this season.

Ferryhill red.

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17 Dec 2010 17:47:12
Sorry to post this folks its gonna be all over the sunday papers, torres wants to leave strong possibility its citeh, however he wants to go chelski-gutted but the way his body language was at st.james's I say cash him in he doesn't want to be here let him go

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17 Dec 2010 17:43:34
Just to clarify something, is she calling her own son a c***?

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17 Dec 2010 17:39:24
I think carol should encourage her son to write in a transfer request A.S.A.P. It his disgusting her son is getting such abuse, I mean he is a fantastic player fast with excellent touch and vision.Infact the type of footballer only a mother would love.I bet he's at home thinking thanks alot mum.

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17 Dec 2010 17:36:47
Fernando Torres is to give us one more season. He wants to see what the new owners can do in the summer (signings and manager wise). He has been personally promised that Liverpool will be given a substantial amount of money to rebuild the team with World class and potential world class players in the summer.
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If you posted where you got that from or a credible source I'd believe you.

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17 Dec 2010 17:31:27
I cannot believe what that women carol has said. obviously an idiot. . tell your son to look around the liverpool dressing room, and ask some of the players what they have won in there careers. . i suggest steven gerrard shows him is medal collection and tells him to teach his family some respect. .

the club need to sort this out, this has brought bad publicity to the club, and konchesky will never be able to forget this. liverpool fans will never accept his mother again.

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17 Dec 2010 17:28:46
"To all you Liverpool scouse scum out there never mind the cockney c. t take a real look at you team stop living off the past the team are s. t anyone made it mistake it's the cockney c. t never should have left fulham"

She sounds a really classy lady, if she does a sh*t in bed i bet she just kicks it out with her foot! LOL
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She looks like a rough ticked to be honest. She's about 50 atleast (well, she looks it) and she dresses like a 16-year-old. A lot of her pictures on Facebook show her with young lads (late teens, early 20s) in clubs and a lot of her 80 or so friends are young lads.

She calls scousers scum, but she should look at herself. The Konchesky's are just typical cockney scumbags who probably breed like rats, and used to live in council flats on benefits (before Paul became rich).

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17 Dec 2010 17:27:12
Eden hazard said he will only join lpool or arsenal
ed. any comment here. {ed's note - those kind of comments are never worth listening to. Even if a player does favour a certain club, that club then has to match the asking price for him. Aguero was dropping hints for months to us before eventually ending up at Atletico Madrid.}

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17 Dec 2010 17:23:10
"To all you Liverpool scouse scum out there never mind the cockney c. t take a real look at you team stop living off the past the team are s. t anyone made it mistake it's the cockney c. t never should have left fulham"

She sounds a really classy lady, if she does a sh*t in bed i bet she just kicks it out with her foot! LOL

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17 Dec 2010 17:14:59
Fernando Torres is to give us one more season. He wants to see what the new owners can do in the summer (signings and manager wise). He has been personally promised that Liverpool will be given a substantial amount of money to rebuild the team with World class and potential world class players in the summer.

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17 Dec 2010 17:09:50
This is what Carol Konchesky said on her Facebook account about Liverpool fans:

"To all you Liverpool scouse scum out there never mind the cockney c. t take a real look at you team stop living off the past the team are s. t anyone made it mistake it's the cockney c. t never should have left fulham"

That's nice Carol. It's not as if Liverpool fans were booing him every week now. We have more respect than that. But he is getting stick, and rightfully so because not only is he a poor defender, but he has been utter trash this season and has cost us goal upon goal. But, he's a professional, getting stick is part of the trade. He earns tens of thousands of the club's and fans' money every week so get over it, every footballer gets stick. And you haven't done your son any favours, he'll get more stick now and will get a frosty reception at Anfield now. And I notice you were telling your friends that you come to Liverpool to see him, well don't bother fatty.

And it wouldn't surprise me if the comments from Mrs.Konchesky were part fuelled by Paul moaning about getting stick from the fans and the like (but I'm not saying he is).

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To be fair to the lady and in the interests of a balanced view I do agree with the last part of her comment.

Frenchy. {ed's note - good point, though it must be said he would never have got another game for them if he had stayed there. He wasn't deemed good enough, hence the arrival of Salcido.}

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17 Dec 2010 17:05:38
And the nominations for the Queen of the Kop are;

-Linda Henry
-Ollala Torres
-Glen Johnson
-Alex Curran
-CAROL KONCHESKY

I am a Liverpool fan from London and the way I see it she is calling every Liverpool fan around the world scum. Every Liverpool fan is so passionate about our club; some African fans walk for miles to watch us on the television or listen to us on the radio. She should be honoured for her son to play for us.

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17 Dec 2010 17:04:56
17 Dec 2010 16:54:41
This is what Carol Konchesky said on her Facebook account about Liverpool fans:

"To all you Liverpool scouse scum out there never mind the cockney c. t take a real look at you team stop living off the past the team are s. t anyone made it mistake it's the cockney c. t never should have left fulham"

That's nice Carol. It's not as if Liverpool fans were booing him every week now. We have more respect than that. But he is getting stick, and rightfully so because not only is he a poor defender, but he has been utter trash this season and has cost us goal upon goal. But, he's a professional, getting stick is part of the trade. He earns tens of thousands of the club's and fans' money every week so get over it, every footballer gets stick. And you haven't done your son any favours, he'll get more stick now and will get a frosty reception at Anfield now. And I notice you were telling your friends that you come to Liverpool to see him, well don't bother fatty.

And it wouldn't surprise me if the comments from Mrs.Konchesky were part fuelled by Paul moaning about getting stick from the fans and the like (but I'm not saying he is).
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17 Dec 2010 17:00:47
OUTS:
poulsen 2m
babel 6m
owners 35m
Total: 43m

INS:
insua recall
honda 10m
suarez 15m
cazorla 9m
fanni 5m
Total: 39m

Reina, Fanni, Carragher, Agger, Aurelio, Cazorla, Gerrard, Meireles, Honda, Torres, Suarez

E.H LFC

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17 Dec 2010 17:00:42
Tomorrow's Team

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Reina. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Johnson. . . . .Skrtel. . . . .Kyrgiakos. . . Konchesky

Kuyt. . . . . . .Meireles. . . . Lucas. . . . . . . .Cole

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Gerrard. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Torres. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Subs. .
Jones
Kelly
Aurelio
Poulsen
Maxi
Babel
Jovanovic

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17 Dec 2010 16:54:41
This is what Carol Konchesky said on her Facebook account about Liverpool fans:

"To all you Liverpool scouse scum out there never mind the cockney c. t take a real look at you team stop living off the past the team are s. t anyone made it mistake it's the cockney c. t never should have left fulham"

That's nice Carol. It's not as if Liverpool fans were booing him every week now. We have more respect than that. But he is getting stick, and rightfully so because not only is he a poor defender, but he has been utter trash this season and has cost us goal upon goal. But, he's a professional, getting stick is part of the trade. He earns tens of thousands of the club's and fans' money every week so get over it, every footballer gets stick. And you haven't done your son any favours, he'll get more stick now and will get a frosty reception at Anfield now. And I notice you were telling your friends that you come to Liverpool to see him, well don't bother fatty.

And it wouldn't surprise me if the comments from Mrs.Konchesky were part fuelled by Paul moaning about getting stick from the fans and the like (but I'm not saying he is).

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17 Dec 2010 16:51:14
So Rijkaard likes a bit of weed it seems.
so the question is. . . .
a stoned Rijkaard (belivable)
or roy (unbelivable)

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17 Dec 2010 16:49:27
Ac Milan offered a large sum of money for Daniel Agger a few seasons back.
The 9m Inter Milan offer would be a far too small amount for a player of Aggers ability despite his injury problems.
There are no footballers I know at the moment that are more naturally suited to the center left back position than Daniel Agger.

Hopefully he can recover from his injury nightmares sooner than later and play a big part in a new successfull era for LFC under NESV.

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17 Dec 2010 16:46:29
Liverpool are set to off load Ryan Babel on loan to Bayern, and take Mario Gomez on loan in exchange.
Both players not happy with their current predicament and looking for a fresh start.

Fred the Red.
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No chance of that happening. Gomez is on fire this season and the same cannot be said about Babel.

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17 Dec 2010 16:41:22
To the guy who made the following list:

Carlton Cole
David Bentley
Charles N'Zogbia
Scott Dann

None of these players will elevate the club from its current position. Also, 3 out of 4 have peaked already. And to be honest, I have no idea who Scott Dann is, but I don't think his shirt will sell well on the Asian, US, European or any market for that matter. What I do know is that the pharmaceutical companies will work overtime to produce enough pills to prevent us all from killing ourselves if that bunch is brought in.

Olivier

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17 Dec 2010 16:32:43
Scott Dann set to join Liverpool for £3mil plus Paul Konchesky.

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17 Dec 2010 16:30:30
Liverpool are set to off load Ryan Babel on loan to Bayern, and take Mario Gomez on loan in exchange.
Both players not happy with their current predicament and looking for a fresh start.

Fred the Red.

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17 Dec 2010 16:25:51
Inter Milan are going to offer £9mil for Daniel Agger in january. Thats according to italian press.

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17 Dec 2010 16:09:46
Evening ed.congratulations to your family and daughter you must be proud, the cockney tart placed it on her face book and said lfc were s* t , but I read it on newsnow Liverpool online cheers mate.psvelnino {ed's note - I wonder if anyone has mentioned to her that it is mostly down to her son being so useless that we are playing so poor??}

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17 Dec 2010 16:08:20
Anyone heard swap deal for carlton cole for babbel could be on

i fukin hope not

what bout u ed? {ed's note - does anyone really believe that Comolli would have Carlton 'Can't Score In A Brothel' Cole on his list? Roy might rate him but I doubt anyone else involved with Liverpool would even consider him.}

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17 Dec 2010 15:57:53
"Quick question on what people think of Christian Purslow. Played his part in getting rid of the muppets, *but* also played his part in bringing in Woy."

It was actually Broughton who played a big part (engineered) Liverpool appointment of Roy, his first contact was back in May . . This is not a secret just watch the press conference introducing Roy as new manager to the press and watch out for words from Broughton about a meeting with Roy.
Purslow did the sacking of Rafa, but guess was following orders rather than his own plans.

Roy

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17 Dec 2010 15:28:08
Alexis Sanchez from Udinese
Lavezzi from Napoli
Keisuke Honda from CSKA
Scott Dann from Brum

Woy out, Deschamps in.

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17 Dec 2010 15:18:23
Anyone heard swap deal for carlton cole for babbel could be on.

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17 Dec 2010 14:00:58
Quick question on what people think of Christian Purslow. Played his part in getting rid of the muppets, *but* also played his part in bringing in Woy.
So - Christian Purslow - saint (Bel.) or sinner (Unbel)

RedTed

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17 Dec 2010 13:40:22
Hi ed, any more news on luis suarez comin to liverpool?? i think he would be a great addition to the squad, what you think? ?
{Editor's note - Nothing new on that front}

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17 Dec 2010 12:37:14
Carlton Cole
David Bentley
Charles N'Zogbia
Scott Dann

Must be Joking. .Would not want any of them in LFC

They are not good for us and do not want Roy turning crab in to decet. .we need world class to go with three world class we have

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Wtf makes you think any top class players want to come to lfc were a mess, so i think the above would be ideal.

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17 Dec 2010 12:35:46
This is a response to Coxy and his supposed 2nd rated rumours. If we sign any of the donkeys that you have proposed I will lose all hope - not just in RH but this and next season. We need class not bums who are average. I rather we spend no money then sign any of the players you suggested esp Carlton Cole.

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17 Dec 2010 12:32:39
And for starters, lets get one thing straight, Roy will still be manager come the end of the season at least.

Roy Hodgson has, over the past, managed to get the best out of average players, turning them into good players. Look at what he did with Bobby Zamora for example. Once a laughing stock of a striker, couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo, then, he turned into one of the leagues most in-form striker scoring on a regular basis.

John Henry has promised funds for January signings. However, the budget for January is very limited as Henry sees the Summer as the ideal window to properly spend. Therefore, Hodgson has had to set his sights on more average players, and will try and work more closely with these players to get the most out of them.

Carlton Cole - Striker
Hodgson set his sights on Luis Suarez, but, due to the limited budget, doesn't want to spend about £12m on him and blow a majority of the budget on him. Therefore, he has turned his attention back to Carlton Cole. Cole is extremely unhappy at West Ham and has made his feelings known. The West Ham board may decide to cash in on him considering he wants to leave. Would cost around £7m

David Bentley - Right Wing
The main target for the wings was Eden Hazard. Hazard again would command a large transfer fee and has recently made it public that he wants to join Arsenal. Hodgson sees Bentley's trickery and ability to run with the ball as ideal for the wings and would cost £5m at most.

Charles N'Zogbia - Left Wing
Ashley Young was the first choice to join to cover the left flank. Again, a very pricey player who is sometimes just as good as N'Zogbia. The Liverpool fans who watched our 2-1 defeat to Wigan a few months back would have seen this guyand how many problems he caused our defense. Pacy, tricky, a decent player. Only problem is his attitude. Would be available for around £7m

Scott Dann
Ryan Shawcross was the main target for £10m, but again, funds are limited. Dann has proven himself as a solid centre back in a very average, struggling Birmingham side. Would act as cover for the centre backs. Available for £6m

*Coxy* That would be good for his past mediocrity clubs , but we are LIVERPOOL .

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17 Dec 2010 12:00:13
Hey whats your opinion on matthew ethrington having a good season so far

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17 Dec 2010 11:50:29
SHOCK SWAP BID BABEL+£5M FOR THEO

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17 Dec 2010 11:46:26
The lack of opportuities if he joins REAL and the GUNNERS not willing to pay the £22m will see HAZARD sign this JAN

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17 Dec 2010 11:46:10
Heard that liverpool are looking at zenits right-back alexander anyukov. what do you think ed, good buy or another useless signing

i have seen him play, good player but is not too good for us. Fanni would have been better than him. :)

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17 Dec 2010 11:36:16
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Carlton Cole
David Bentley
Charles N'Zogbia
Scott Dann

Must be Joking. .Would not want any of them in LFC

They are not good for us and do not want Roy turning crab in to decet. .we need world class to go with three world class we have

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17 Dec 2010 11:33:53
It would be unbelieveable if Nesv signed the following players in Janurary or Summer for LFC, while keeping current star players.

Honda

Llorente

Suarez

Young or Mata

Cazorla or Navas

. . . .all have been rumoured.

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17 Dec 2010 11:30:39
Heyyy ed, any suggestion for a defender who could possibly be joining liverpool.
any news about eden hazard or mario gomez {ed's note - Gomez is not going to happen, Bayern are short of strikers and Gomez is scoring goals again. Hazard has never been the subject of any concrete rumours, but that could be a good thing, no one heard anything about Meireles after all. As for a defender, I don't believe Comolli is targeting one, he is very much into using younger players, I would think he would be wanting Roy to make more use of Wilson, Ayala (when he comes back next month) and Kelly.}

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17 Dec 2010 11:26:18
Liverpool To Sign Charles N'Zogbia Personally He Wouldn't B My Cup Of Tea

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17 Dec 2010 11:07:23
January Signings.

And for starters, lets get one thing straight, Roy will still be manager come the end of the season at least.

Roy Hodgson has, over the past, managed to get the best out of average players, turning them into good players. Look at what he did with Bobby Zamora for example. Once a laughing stock of a striker, couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo, then, he turned into one of the leagues most in-form striker scoring on a regular basis.

John Henry has promised funds for January signings. However, the budget for January is very limited as Henry sees the Summer as the ideal window to properly spend. Therefore, Hodgson has had to set his sights on more average players, and will try and work more closely with these players to get the most out of them.

Carlton Cole - Striker
Hodgson set his sights on Luis Suarez, but, due to the limited budget, doesn't want to spend about £12m on him and blow a majority of the budget on him. Therefore, he has turned his attention back to Carlton Cole. Cole is extremely unhappy at West Ham and has made his feelings known. The West Ham board may decide to cash in on him considering he wants to leave. Would cost around £7m

David Bentley - Right Wing
The main target for the wings was Eden Hazard. Hazard again would command a large transfer fee and has recently made it public that he wants to join Arsenal. Hodgson sees Bentley's trickery and ability to run with the ball as ideal for the wings and would cost £5m at most.

Charles N'Zogbia - Left Wing
Ashley Young was the first choice to join to cover the left flank. Again, a very pricey player who is sometimes just as good as N'Zogbia. The Liverpool fans who watched our 2-1 defeat to Wigan a few months back would have seen this guyand how many problems he caused our defense. Pacy, tricky, a decent player. Only problem is his attitude. Would be available for around £7m

Scott Dann
Ryan Shawcross was the main target for £10m, but again, funds are limited. Dann has proven himself as a solid centre back in a very average, struggling Birmingham side. Would act as cover for the centre backs. Available for £6m

*Coxy*

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17 Dec 2010 10:08:09
Heard that liverpool are looking at zenits right-back alexander anyukov. what do you think ed, good buy or another useless signing

i have seen him play, good player but is not too good for us. Fanni would have been better than him. :)

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17 Dec 2010 10:08:01
Seems we are being linked with Nuremburg playmaker Mike Frantz. What do you know about him Ed? He apparently is held in the same regard as Ozil.
Along with Honda and M Gomez, do you think this would represent a step in the right direction? {ed's note - the German lad who was on here yesterday said he was not good enough for us, that is all I know about him to be honest, I don't watch the Bundesliga.}

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17 Dec 2010 09:55:48
Re:One thing that I can never understand is all these fans who see players at Airports, walking around Albert Dock and Melwood, etc, but never take any photographs. If you look close there is a section where you can place photographs but although I constantly look I never see any. Come on you fans get the cameras out!


I accept that high profile footballers are probably used to people taking photos of them all the time. However I would like to thing that most people would agree that to photograph someone while they are going abot their day to day life without their permission is EXTREMELY rude and not the sort of behaviour we should be endorsing on here.

Old Fashioned Bob

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17 Dec 2010 09:50:30
Living in the US Im really familiar with how NESV have run the Red Sox. I think sometimes when I read on here someone mention a big name they get alot of responses like "he will cost too much." Well NESV are not afraid to sign big name players to big contracts. In fact when you look at the Red Sox I'd say there are four types of player moves theyve used to build the team.

1-Promoting young players through the system and giving them a chance at the big league club. A few years ago Dustin Pedroia was in his 1st year in the Major Leagues. He was awful, absolutely pitiful for half a year or so. Then he picked it up and played well. Now he is one of the best players in baseball. They will be willing to give youngsters a chance and will be patient with them. I think they'll apply this same approach to Liverpool, both by giving youth players a chance and also by signing young players (18-21) and giving them a chance.

2-Undervalued Players. The Sox have had a history of signing players who were never given a proper chance by other teams or who are undervalued by the sport as a whole. Their plan has often been to try to sign several players like this with the hope that 1 or 2 of them pan out. For instance years ago the Sox signed a bunch of players who were all similar players. A few of them fell by the wayside but one of them was David Ortiz who is one of the best hitters in the league for nearly a decade. Id expect them to use this strategy with Liverpool. This could apply to players who haven't been able to crack the first 11 at their current clubs but our scouts like or players who will be availible on frees and thus don't cost as much money.

3-Risky Players. With the Sox this has mostly been players coming off injuries. The Sox have several times signed players with injury concerns but alot of talent. Due to the injury concerns they don't cost alot of money. The thinking is if the stays hurt it didn't cost alot but if he is healthy the player could be a steal. In football this could apply to players with off the field issues. For instance the rumors about Suarez. If he hadn't bit a player hed probably go for 25 mil plus. Due to his issues his price may be low. So Liverpool put in a low bid and say "if they accept, great, if they don't no big deal". With the thinking being if the player comes here and continues to be a problem it didn;t cost a ton of money but if he comes here and cleans up his act we could have a great player on our hands for a low cost.

4-Big Time Signings. The Red Sox recently gave about 300 million dollars in contracts to 2 star players. I don't see any reason Liverpool wouldn't also go after stars. I know Aguero is a bit of a running joke on this site but I see no reason why NESV wouldn't try to sign a player like this.
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Great post!

I have researched a lot regarding NESV, and this post says it all. Red Sox expenditure on players is very high.

People disregard a lot of high profile players linked with Liverpool FC, with the same excuses 'to expensive, wage demands will be to high etc'.

NESV are winners, they want to make Liverpool FC once again winners. With this attitude expect some shocks in the transfer market (excluding January - not value for money).

With the history of NESV, do not be surprised with one marque signing each year which could be £25 million plus.

James Mc

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17 Dec 2010 09:47:38
Any news on keisuke honda ed?? ? /
do u think hes the guy to solve our problems. personally i believe he would just be a waste. a winger who hasnt played football for a big league and expects to fit in the epl. ed do u think the answer to our problems lie within the premier league like johnson from city or david bentley {ed's note - Honda isn't a winger, but he would be a much better winger than Bentley!}

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17 Dec 2010 09:31:26
Heard that liverpool are looking at zenits right-back alexander anyukov. what do you think ed, good buy or another useless signing

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It doesn't seem to fit. A 28 year old left back? We have 3 Left backs, once Insua returns, and it doesn't fit the policy from NESV, unless Comolli has used his in depth statistics to decide that this player is under rated and under valued, but the shoe simply doesn't fit in my opinion, what do you think ed?
Possibly a ploy by the players agent to manafacture a move? {ed's note - it does sound like an agent trying to make sure people know his client is available.}

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17 Dec 2010 08:13:22
Heard that liverpool are looking at zenits right-back alexander anyukov. what do you think ed, good buy or another useless signing

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17 Dec 2010 03:37:55
17 Dec 2010 00:21:05
Flew home to dublin 2day went to see game last night fc utrect were also there in fact we were bunched in among them in the queue to go through security just about made the flight! there was no big fuss about it but i noticed ricky van wolfswinkel with what appeared to be his parents and another gentleman maybe his agent? i assume a certain two wer his parents as they were particulary close when talking to him he had his arm in a sling under a coat from injury last nite and the woman was 'minding' him if u like. .never know could have had talks over a jan move anyway never mind that i also met aldo on way over in dublin airport! a legend in ireland and at liverpool was great with kids asking for photos and autographs top bloke. cheers ed great site keep up good work oh nearly forgot jonjo shelvey had a great game watched him closely and im very impressed on his progress a future captain me thinks! J Red {ed's note - it would be more likely to be a doctor with Rocky and Bullwinkle I would say.}

According to de Telegraaf van Wolfswinkl was able to travel home with the rest of the squad so if you saw him you must have seen the rest of the players!
One thing that I can never understand is all these fans who see players at Airports, walking around Albert Dock and Melwood, etc, but never take any photographs. If you look close there is a section where you can place photographs but although I constantly look I never see any. Come on you fans get the cameras out!
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I think the responder is the one who's having problems with what they have or haven't seen. read the first sentence again.

Anyway. why doubt him? I think its pretty believable that he was there. The possible permutations is the rumour. and that's what this site is for. . There's also a bit of form on the rumour. rumours come in obviously ridiculous and quite plausible. This is of the latter. I've seen loads of famous people on my travels. I'm talking 30 flights a year here. I've never taken my camera out


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17 Dec 2010 01:43:59
Wake up guys, we can't never sign Javier pastore because his asking price is 70 million and a negotiatable bid must be over 59 million.Think is there any way we can spend such ammount?

Blazing angel

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17 Dec 2010 01:10:44
Living in the US Im really familiar with how NESV have run the Red Sox. I think sometimes when I read on here someone mention a big name they get alot of responses like "he will cost too much." Well NESV are not afraid to sign big name players to big contracts. In fact when you look at the Red Sox I'd say there are four types of player moves theyve used to build the team.

1-Promoting young players through the system and giving them a chance at the big league club. A few years ago Dustin Pedroia was in his 1st year in the Major Leagues. He was awful, absolutely pitiful for half a year or so. Then he picked it up and played well. Now he is one of the best players in baseball. They will be willing to give youngsters a chance and will be patient with them. I think they'll apply this same approach to Liverpool, both by giving youth players a chance and also by signing young players (18-21) and giving them a chance.

2-Undervalued Players. The Sox have had a history of signing players who were never given a proper chance by other teams or who are undervalued by the sport as a whole. Their plan has often been to try to sign several players like this with the hope that 1 or 2 of them pan out. For instance years ago the Sox signed a bunch of players who were all similar players. A few of them fell by the wayside but one of them was David Ortiz who is one of the best hitters in the league for nearly a decade. Id expect them to use this strategy with Liverpool. This could apply to players who haven't been able to crack the first 11 at their current clubs but our scouts like or players who will be availible on frees and thus don't cost as much money.

3-Risky Players. With the Sox this has mostly been players coming off injuries. The Sox have several times signed players with injury concerns but alot of talent. Due to the injury concerns they don't cost alot of money. The thinking is if the stays hurt it didn't cost alot but if he is healthy the player could be a steal. In football this could apply to players with off the field issues. For instance the rumors about Suarez. If he hadn't bit a player hed probably go for 25 mil plus. Due to his issues his price may be low. So Liverpool put in a low bid and say "if they accept, great, if they don't no big deal". With the thinking being if the player comes here and continues to be a problem it didn;t cost a ton of money but if he comes here and cleans up his act we could have a great player on our hands for a low cost.

4-Big Time Signings. The Red Sox recently gave about 300 million dollars in contracts to 2 star players. I don't see any reason Liverpool wouldn't also go after stars. I know Aguero is a bit of a running joke on this site but I see no reason why NESV wouldn't try to sign a player like this.

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17 Dec 2010 00:46:50
Getting Mexes and Taiwo on free transfers would be fantastic business on our part. Would significantly improve our defence. Agger and Mexes in the middle, Taiwo at left-back and then we should really sign a new right-back (a good right back can be had for under £10m). Would give us much leway to spend bigger in other positions. Although I think we could miss out on Mexes if Chelsea go in for him.

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17 Dec 2010 00:26:52
We've been linked with a Summer move Nuri Sahin in the papers today.

I really like him. He's very creative which is what we could do with in central midfield. He's skillful and quick also. Would do well in our midfield if we could get him on form.

Summer move would be better if this is true, centre midfield isn't the priority at the moment. Although with Gerrard, Lucas, Meireles and Shelvey in the ranks, would we need one in the Summer? Maybe the plan is to play a sort of 4-3-3 system in the future.

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17 Dec 2010 00:21:40
Hey ed, any news about mexes? ? {ed's note - last I heard he rejected a new contract offer, he will be free to discuss a move soon on a pre-contract.}

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17 Dec 2010 00:21:05
Flew home to dublin 2day went to see game last night fc utrect were also there in fact we were bunched in among them in the queue to go through security just about made the flight! there was no big fuss about it but i noticed ricky van wolfswinkel with what appeared to be his parents and another gentleman maybe his agent? i assume a certain two wer his parents as they were particulary close when talking to him he had his arm in a sling under a coat from injury last nite and the woman was 'minding' him if u like. .never know could have had talks over a jan move anyway never mind that i also met aldo on way over in dublin airport! a legend in ireland and at liverpool was great with kids asking for photos and autographs top bloke. cheers ed great site keep up good work oh nearly forgot jonjo shelvey had a great game watched him closely and im very impressed on his progress a future captain me thinks! J Red {ed's note - it would be more likely to be a doctor with Rocky and Bullwinkle I would say.}

According to de Telegraaf van Wolfswinkl was able to travel home with the rest of the squad so if you saw him you must have seen the rest of the players!
One thing that I can never understand is all these fans who see players at Airports, walking around Albert Dock and Melwood, etc, but never take any photographs. If you look close there is a section where you can place photographs but although I constantly look I never see any. Come on you fans get the cameras out!
Mal 51
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I think the responder is the one who's having problems with what they have or haven't seen. read the first sentence again.

Anyway. why doubt him? I think its pretty believable that he was there. The possible permutations is the rumour. and that's what this site is for. . There's also a bit of form on the rumour. rumours come in obviously ridiculous and quite plausible. This is of the latter. I've seen loads of famous people on my travels. I'm talking 30 flights a year here. I've never taken my camera out.

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17 Dec 2010 00:10:50
Javiers pastore looks absolutely awesome and at the right stage of his career where we could potentially get him before his stock rises, we have missed out on these players too often in the past (dani Alves springs to mind). Ed do you think he could possibly be a replacement for at least part of gerrard's game as we have to start thinking that way sooner rather than later?
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According to reports, he's already sought after mate. Chelsea, City and Real Madrid have been mentioned.

Obviously when City (even Madrid and Chelsea) come in for a player their price will rise significantly. From what I've read and heard it could take £30m to get him.

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17 Dec 2010 00:03:52
(Sorry for the interview bud, this is like BBC Question Time, but I think me and many others would like some encouraging news and obviously you know more about what goes on than us!). {ed's note - this is mostly my conjecture rather than hard evidence, due to the fact there is no hard evidence around. But I think we are looking at Honda to play up front, instead of Ngog, as a partner to Torres. I do think Taiwo would jump at the chance to join us, he was interested in a move during the Rafa era but it never came off. Though that supposes Comolli rates him, he will know the lad far better than I do, but he does seem very much a Comolli-type player. He likes the good, strong, fast and technical players.}
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ha ed who would not like that type of player? Good, strong, fast, and technical. But honestly imagine how many fewer goals we would have conceded with a decent left back. And Taiwo is better than decent. I watch a fair bit of Marseille (like to call them my French team). Maybe does not offer quite as much going forward as a Contreau (my first choice LB) but is very solid defensively and can make good runs forward from time to time. With a manager that new what he is doing I think our back four would become:

Johnson - Kelly - Agger - Taiwo
with Wilson third choice CB.
In my opinion we will also get a winger in January, no matter what considering just how many we have been linked with. I would say where we are in the table would determine whether it is someone like Mata or one like Boudebouz. So Honda, Taiwo, and a winger joining in January. I can live with that.
Anfield Rapstar

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16 Dec 2010 23:55:55
Javiers pastore looks absolutely awesome and at the right stage of his career where we could potentially get him before his stock rises, we have missed out on these players too often in the past (dani Alves springs to mind). Ed do you think he could possibly be a replacement for at least part of gerrard's game as we have to start thinking that way sooner rather than later? {ed's note - fantastic player, but he has just signed a new contract I believe.}

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