Liverpool Rumours Archive August 17 2012

 

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17 Aug 2012 22:15:05
Tony Barrett from the times is reporting that we are no longer interested in Dempsey and pep segura has quit his post?!

Regards

Tony


 

 

17 Aug 2012 22:14:56
Mexico star Herrera could move to Liverpool at anytime. Is there any truth in is ??


 

 

17 Aug 2012 22:14:39
i hear pep segura as left lfc also sahin deal is off only what i heard


 

 

17 Aug 2012 21:00:34
Hi eds, any chance of us being interested in signing Adam Johnson joining now he's handed in a transfer request? {Ed001's Note - I very much doubt it.}


We just bought oussama assaidi


Adam johnson going to everton season long loan, mirallas deal done and niang to sign


 

 

17 Aug 2012 19:52:23
Sorry Eds but can ye clarify something?

The echo has quoted Jol as saying Dempsey has had his head turned by d pool but, and heres the kicker, Jol claims we haven't bid for him AT ALL and actually BR is not seriously interested in signing him.
Is this gamesmanship from Jol or are we not actually interested in signing dempsey?

5uarezTimes {Ed001's Note - there was an inquiry as to what price Fulham would accept with Adam as part of the deal. No formal bid went in simply because Adam refused to be any part of it, he doesn't want to leave Liverpool and he doesn't want to move away from the area right now, just after marrying a local lass in the summer.}


Will we only go for him if Carroll leaves to give us funds or is that bs?
And did post earlier but not gone on but apparently Pep Segura has quit?
U know of anything?
Skurks {Ed001's Note - Carroll's leaving or staying is not relevant to Dempsey, we are looking to offload a few more players not in Rodgers' plans though it is as much to reduce wage bill as to raise funds.}


Adam basically wants to live on the Liverpool bench. Literally because he knows he will never be able to go to another club of Liverpool's calibre. He knows that he was lucky to be signed by Liverpool. {Ed001's Note - not true, he has fallen in love with the club and wants to be a part of it.}


He married a chick from liverpool (within 12months), Love isit? {Ed001's Note - don't talk soft! He married a Blackpool lass, he has known her for a while and they got married in the summer in Scotland. By local, I meant North West, not a scouser.}


Tanx Ed001, I appreciate the response.
I think dempsey is there for the taking now though and think he would make a positive difference if we did make the effort to sign him!
5uarezTimes {Ed001's Note - he is very much there, if it hadn't been for that cock up with the website, I believe he would already have signed for the club.}


What do you make of the Echo/Tony Barrett saying we're not interested in Dempsey anymore Ed? They're usually reliable, but hope they've got this wrong! {Ed001's Note - personally I think it is disinformation to get the price down.}


I really hope someone got fired over that website mess.

pronin


Whether we are in for Clint or not just get Charlie away FFs


 

 

17 Aug 2012 19:41:48
i think now is the best time for lfc to bid for Dempsey, ED as of now to liverpool have the "upper hand" in negotiations? do you expect us to get him?
Ruben {Ed001's Note - I do, though we have had no luck persuading Adam to be a makeweight in the deal so far.}


 

 

17 Aug 2012 19:02:14
Ed's you seem a lot less sure on Sahin today. I've read the other posts but is this purely down to Arsenal interest or is he just waiting to see who's interested?
Surely if we're simply a back up its time to move on. Really rate him but just don't want someone whos only half bothered about coming here.

If he doesn't that means we must still be looking at a couple of signings due to all the players out this year. Who would say these would be? I'm guessing one looks like Dempsey after today? Thoughts? {Ed001's Note - I have been busy with my daughter's bday this week, I haven't been keeping up with what's happening, last I heard he favoured joining us. There is a lot of talk Wenger has spoken to him personally, in order to persuade him Arsenal would be better, but I am unsure whether that would have made any difference. It is his personal choice, so anyone other than him claiming to know where he is going, well they are full of it. The lad hasn't decided himself yet. It does seem to be very much between us and Arsenal though.}


If Sahin prefers Arsenal let him go there. We need players who are proud to wear the shirt,


He goin to arsenal champs league footy the clincher. Paul c {Ed001's Note - oh well if you say so.}


Smart move ed, no point arguing with that guy, especially after you said even Sahin doesnt know where he is going. Did he even read your comment?
Andrew {Ed001's Note - I think he must have been Nuri himself, to know that!}


No i not the player just realist. Arse in Champs league makes more likely. P.s. Biorini released by chelsea when rodgers was there. Why pay 10 mill. {Ed002's Note - Borini was not released by Chelsea - he decided he did not want to sign a new contract. Rodgers had already left Chelsea by that time.}


Ok ed sorry thought he was released. Brendan rodgers must have saw something at chelsea regards biorini ten mill sounds a lot. Hope he does the business.


 

 

17 Aug 2012 20:58:58
LFC to table £7.5 million bid for Dempsey


Why lie we are not interested no more
TT


 

 

17 Aug 2012 20:23:59
if adam leaves, which looks probable and should sahin deal fall through, who is thought to be the CM back up purchase? for example it would seem that when tello fell through, assaidi came in.

alfonzo mo


Honestly not sure if there would be one. Since Sahin is a loan deal, not sure if they would have budgeted for anyone else and having a 'loan backup option' would seem strange.


Lets face it nobody knows


I wouldn't say we need to have a backup purchase. We still have Gerrard, Lucas, Allen, Henderson, and Shelvey there in the first team, and Spearing if he doesn't leave. There's also the likes of Coady and Suso in the reserves waiting to make the step up.

It looks more and more likely that Sahin is going to Arsenal, especially with Song leaving. Dempsey is also an attacking midfielder as well, should we get him.


Most probably another suprise signing that no one expected...


Lucas, Allen, Gerrard, Henderson, Shelvey


Sahin is a player who could start or cover all 3 of the cm positions, I would think that type of player...

Which is why he is so good for us should we get him.

Ozred.


 

 

17 Aug 2012 20:12:50
Sahin has chosen Arsenal because he wants Champions League football. Clint Dempsey close to a decision within the next 48 hours.

Gav the Red


Or he has less competition for his position?


 

 

17 Aug 2012 19:52:28
It looks like Sahin off to AFC to replace song who is off to barca.real fancy LFC because of terms offered to them financially but sahin is edging towards AFC.
Brendon has to speak to sahin by next 2 days to get back deal.
Red indian


Feel stupid moaning already and have been impressed with the style rogers has the team playing, BUT the yanks need to back a new manager with money to compete. Since they have come in not sure what the net spend is but cant be that much considering some of the players we have sold.


Not that I'm saying he won't join arsenal but song leaving will have no bearing on Sahin they are totally different players and positions


Why would sahin replace a dmf in alex song


 

 

17 Aug 2012 19:26:40
Currently we have Reina, Jones, Gulacsi and Doni. Do you expect any activities with anyone leaving or coming in?

In full backs department we have Johnson, Enrique, Kelly, Flanagan and Robinson. I don't expect any movement in that department unless a backup left back is targeted.

In midfield we have Lucas, Allen, Gerrard, Henderson, Shelvey, Adam, Spearing. The latter two are expected to leave with Sahin joinin on loan. Do you expect anyone else to be targeted if Sahin doesnt join.

Lastly in terms of attackers, Downing, Assaidi, Suarez, Borini and Carroll. It is expected another attacker will join in the shape of Dempsey. I want to know if Carroll does leave will someone come in to replace him.

We also have youngsters in Morgan, Sterling and Suso. What's the situation with Coady? He didn't join the team in America. Do you expect him to leave or expect him to make a move towards the first team squad?

Cheers,
Hassan


You forgot Cole


Carrolls replacement will be Dempsey (if we get him)


Is sahin doesn't join then there probably will be another cm in mind

in terms of attackers to replace carroll for me Gameiro is perfect. pace, dribbling, shot accuracy a real firecracker.


I'd want a better striker in, if Carroll leaves, Dempsey, as decent as he is, certainly is not a replacement for big AC haven't heard of any links with any striker who would at least equal big Andy. Very worrying if he's let go and a worse player or no player in brought in for him.
Four of five senior forward players left in the squad for three positions, we'll be left light up front again ....
Sell big AC in January when we actually have another forward option who better


 

 

17 Aug 2012 19:26:07

Just to reword it for you all, the club still believe Sahin will sign..

Cheers

Macca
{Ed033's Note - confirmed as the real Macca


I believe he will sign for arsenal

Falcon


Not to sound like i doubt you so hope this is true him and dempsey would make it a good transfer window as always thanks for the info mate


I really hope so, he will be the best signing of the window so far.


Brilliant news I thought we might of lost out to Arsenal.
Skurks


I fear the worse but really really hope you're right.


said he would close his twitter acount if sahin signed or arsanel and hes gone


Been yearning for this all day


I hope so. Keep us informed! These rumours are killing us.


Come on we have to get sahin. We already got our hopes up about tello, sahin is quality on alonso/mascherano level. We signed masch on loan at first if im not mistakn and sahin will be even better than he was. Johndog


18 Aug 2012 13:37:18
Macca,

Is this on a loan deal or permanent?

YNWA
Carl


18 Aug 2012 13:40:02
Thanks for the news Macca, It makes sense, why would they loan to champions league competition.

Simoky


18 Aug 2012 13:41:25
Cheers yet again Macca. Fingers crossed for Sahin!


18 Aug 2012 13:42:00
Thanks Macca. I'm trying not to get my hopes up after being burned by Gylfi whats-his-name, but you're not making it easy :-) Hope you're right and he snubs the Goons for Anfield


18 Aug 2012 13:41:38
Cheers Macca. Anything on tello?

Red Rout


 

 

17 Aug 2012 18:55:44
Liverpool to sumbit a 6 Million pound offer For Clint Dempsey


Catch twenty two really, he's not a bad player but at 29 represents very little sell on fee should we buy him. Saying that he's versatile, rarely injured, scores goals, assists and good for our image in the US. I'd say 6M upfront + 2M add on's is about right for Clint. Face facts we need another striker and cash is tight it would seem.


This will not happen as the echo have said we are not interested in signing him.
He will end up at a London club


I like the fact that 'sumbit' actually sounds like a Texan saying submit!


That should be sum bit of transfer dealing then !


I like the fact that 'sumbit' actually sounds like a Texan saying submit!


That should be sum bit of transfer dealing then !


What do you make of the echo report eds saying we are not interested in Dempsey? Seems a bit strange when Rodgers declared an interest himself.

Mighty reds {Ed002's Note - Zippo.}


Fair price good player be very happy with sahin and dempsey would make it very good transfer window


Tony Barrett times says no interest in dempsy


Wont get him for that,8m yea


 

 

17 Aug 2012 18:45:39
Dempsey has put in a transfer request. Jol seriously p****d of with this and has left him out of squad tomorrow.
Also board has lowered evaluation to 8 to 9m but Clint is adamant he want to go to Anfield.



TrueRed73


 

 

17 Aug 2012 18:34:30
Heard a rumour we are after someone called hector herrera can someone tell me about him?


Mexican midfielder who played in olympcis. plays for tijiuana. 22 yrs old


He is class played cm 4 spain 21s think he plays 4 bilbao hed cost 20m plus so i doubt wer goin 4 him


He played in the Olympics for Mexico, but he's another central midfielder, so unless mr spearing is off I suspect someone is pulling your leg.


He played in the Olympics for Mexico, but he's another central midfielder, so unless mr spearing is off I suspect someone is pulling your leg.


Played for Mexico in the olympics


Actually I think he's a winger, but I still think its a leg pull.


He plays for Pachuca in Mexico - the same club as Marco Bueno. What happened to him,by the way.
Dutchmal


Mexico international.played in olympics,winger i believe


There was a rumor about him a i think at the beginning of the window, but its nothing more than rumors at this point as far as i know, one of the Eds could give a more accurate answer than me


For the 2nd time - he plays for Pachuca which is the same club as Marco Bueno. Both Liverpool and m.u. have shown interest at the end of May. Bueno had supposedly signed a pre-contract 12 months ago but all seems to have gone quiet in regard to any move to Anfield.
Dutchmal


 

 

17 Aug 2012 17:55:09
Hi all MAISEY here

Been hectic but I'll summarize what i know.

Did not here a peep about assaidi which isn't a bad thing.

Sahin has not had his head turned or anything like that he was all set to sign and was asked by Wenger to hold off for 48 hours, Liverpool have since told Sahin he has 24 hours to make up his mind I'm still VERY confident Sahin will sign for us a major reason its stalling also is his family they believe it will be better for him to stay in spain so a little extra is being done to help the 'Family issues' i know this kid will sign for us so don't panic or worry he is not going to arsenal.

Dempsey- Could take time but something has got to give first we won't budge on our valuation on what we think he is worth and they won't lower there demands. I believe it will be sorted by next week 100% if not before

We are actively seeking a defender thats all i know.

As i said previously Like it or not, agree or disagree, I am 100% sure Daniel Agger will leave the club.

Thanks,

Maisey.


Makes sense in the owners selling Agger so they can cover the money spent, I would expect to see cole leave as well to reduce the wage bill even further. With the ins and outs the squad will be no better than last season weaker at the back if anything. Let's hope Brenden can weave some magic on the pitch as we are going to need lots of luck to stay anywhere near the top 4.


Agger to city or barca? And how much, and who will replace him? Thanks


Thanks for the info Maisey


Thank you for the update!

-red norwegian-


Song is off to barca, arsenal will sign sahin outright I'm afraid

SuperDuperSuarez


Thanks for that maisey. The one bit I believe is that you knew nothing about assaidi.


If Daniel says he doesn wanna go and Brendan doesn want him to go Maisie, I find it very hard to believe the owners will go over their heads especially as Brendan supposedly has the final word never mind Daniel also has to agree to it. I cannot see the owners making Brendans job untenable so early into his reign, thats my opinion anyway, it would make a mockery of the fact Brendan is the boss and he only took the job if he had complete control hence no D.O.F. It just doesn't make sence, sorry Simonpw


You are "100% sure" based on opinion or based on inside info?


We don't need another sahin ! We signed one on Wednesday and one Thursday according to your previous posts ?!?

Rednick


SuperDuperSuarez We are still very much in the running for Sahin but sure he could go to Arsenal like i said but it will be decided in the next couple of days.

To the rest Don't listen to the paper crap we are very interested in dempsey but still some way to go.

Agger has said he would find the temptation of Barcelona to much. Like i said Guys Believe it, Agree, Disagree Agger is 100% Leaving.

I'm not IN THE KNOW but I'll pass on what i hear and as I've grown fond of this site and my passion for LFC has grown (Not a football supporter) i have done a little more to find out.

Oh and based on inside knowledge like i said previously I'm a PA for someone at liverpool Obviously not a player or Brendan thats really all i can say, I'm leaving my post in october to move to spain to work so after the transfer deadline its the last info you here off me! well for LFC anyway.


If you don't like or agree with my posts then please don't reply :)

Thanks,

Maisey.

P.S I'm open to becoming an Ed'ess I have a vast knowledge of football worldwide ;) xx

LOL


PPS Barca or Man city (FACT)for agger with Johnson wanting out wouldn't be surprised if a deal could be agreed IMO no info on that.


That sound like exactly whats being said on twitter, except tony barrett who is very reliable is claiming lfc not going for dempsey any more


BR made it clear, agger doesnt want to go hes not for sale, any club can make a major bid right now and buy him, but honestly i cant see wich club that would be wiling at the current time, if and only if danny leaves, it will involve some sorts of trade whit a player going the other way.
and when it comes to barca the player we were interested in, didnt want to join us, and basicly if we cant get a decent trade, selling to barca would be stupid, the money would be bad for us, of cause the money could be well payed by man pity not getting him, but frankly right now i dont see anyone willing to give us good enough players, or who is willing to buy him.

Jasper.


You talk to much of the same crap that we have all herd before.


The club must be glad to see the back of you. they put trust in you to keep things that go on at the club behide close doors.


Anyone else thinking she reveals too much of herself to impress on the internet? Seriously thanks for the info but if you weren't goin Spain you'd be on the edge of loosing your job anyway, anyone in your office with half a brain could use the info you have posted on hear about yourself in an effort to apply credit to your posts, to narrow it down to you in a heartbeat, especially something as accurate as when your leaving and for were. Honestly I'm glad you post but if you keep posting stuff about yourself you''re going to end up with no info to put on here anyway. Your statements, when proved true, will give you more credit than your life story.

Dan {Ed002's Note - You believe all of this then?}


18 Aug 2012 12:08:48
It would make me laugh if Maisey was legit though, and the club would provider confidential info to someone daft enough to tell the world everything about her baring her national insurance number!

Dan


Sahin is the best player in the world


Messi ronaldo xavi iniesta on there way to liverpool it is true


 

 

17 Aug 2012 16:40:00
{Ed052's Note - Nuri Sahin. Wheres he going? What are his good points? What are his weaknesses? Who's he played for? All you need to know about Liverpool's possible next signing is in my latest player profile found at; http://www.player-profiles.co.uk/nuri-sahin.php . I will try to get back to your comments and questions as soon as I can. Thanks very much. Enjoy!!}


 

 

17 Aug 2012 17:30:41
Any pepecam updates? {Ed002's Note - Sparky has a Twitter account now - @WonderDogSparky }


Who/What is Sparky?
Ist Ed002 imaginary friend ?
Roy {Ed002's Note - I have a lot of imaginary friends, but Sparky is the ever nifty @WonderDogSparky }


 

 

15 Aug 2012 20:36:07
Hey ed006, do you think that the Sahin deal will be announced after the Austria - Turkey match tonight? Do you think that Sahin will fly in for a medical tonight? Cheers, Scouserseb

{Ed006's Note - No, haha sorry for the late reply.}


Sahin is off to arsenal mate.


Haha cheers for the reply mate;) Well now we know the answer don't we:) Scouserseb


He's probably going to arsenal anyway


Agreed he has chosen arsenal


Agreed it is very clear now that Sahin will join Arsenal!!


Wenger made a last min call and turned Shaun's head...once upon a time other clubs turning a player away from liverpool was very few and far between, all to often these days. Sad to say but true..


Two reasons for this friend:

First of all we are not in the champions league

secondly bright lights of London

Simple


 

 

17 Aug 2012 16:05:27
Hi eds,

any updates on nuri sahin and theo Walcott?

King25 {Ed052's Note - Sahin remains in the balance and Walcott looks unlikely.}


Dont know how you can say he looks unlikely as he still hasnt signed a new contract


Probably because we signed another winger today


He is going to the gooners fullstop wait and see


 

 

17 Aug 2012 15:55:09
{Ed002's Note - Sparky's Twitter account is up and running we are told: @WonderDogSparky }


 

 

16 Aug 2012 18:51:49
Hi Eds, Player Profile on Assaidi Plz :)

YNWA
Sat V {Ed022's Note - Already done my friend.}


 

 

17 Aug 2012 15:19:04
Official site has announced that the Assaidi deal has been completed. No news on length of contract it just says "long term". He will wear number 11. Also no news on whether he was signed in time to be available tomorrow.

Bob


Has got be given to the fa by 12 midday ,so I would say no {Ed002's Note - The rule is that all paperwork must have been processed and clearance provided one hour before the game.}


He can play because it is before 5 0'clock


Were did this one come from? Is this guy got a real future at Anfield and will he bring the craft and guile that we have been missing over the last four years


Liverpool never disclose contract length


Its 4 yr deal for about £3 million...


Teams have a 5pm deadline Mon-Fri set by the FA to register the player with the FA and the PL and he signed well before that deadline so he could be named on the bench. But i expect him to just watch rather then play any part but i could be wrong


So there is still a possibility that he will be available for tomorrow then ed002? I doubt that he will be part of the squad for tomorrow though..Cheers, Scouserseb


He's been appointed as a squad player, so I'd expect sub appearances more than starts.


Its a 4yr 21k/week deal..the fee is around 2.4 million ..
haha, saw on the official site that his Fifa 12 profile gives him 91 in acceleration,90 in agility,86 in dribbling..must be good then..


He hasn't trained with the players and won't know how they play so best he gets at least a weeks training under his belt before we think about playing him.


Hmm, thats funny because RVP had to complete by 12 today to play on Monday.


 

 

17 Aug 2012 15:03:02
Quick question Ed002, Is sparky a big fan of football and has his twitter made any headway -McMenemy {Ed002's Note - Sparky likes running around of football pitches with his friends, but see football as just a silly game. He has now got his Twitter account @WonderDogSparky but they got in to trouble for starting false rumours about Sahin and Ramirez this morning. They have now deleted the Twits.}


So all these rumours of sahib to arsenal are false


 

 

17 Aug 2012 14:51:47
{Ed002's Note - PepeCam Update: Sparky let Pepe visit the Caribbean with a few of his chums this week. Pepe has now returned home and the two have patched up their differences. Pepe bought a new remote control for the television as a present and Sparky let him have two bowls of Frosties as a treat. After spending much of the morning starting rumours about Gaston Ramirez joining Southamption and Sahin moving to Arsenal on Sparky's new Twitter account, they are off to chase children around Woolton Wood.}


Love it this is gold


 

 

17 Aug 2012 13:26:59
Hey Ed002..With Martin Jol confirming that Dempsey won't be in Fulhams squad for the match tomorrow because he wants to leave, do you reckon that LFC are in pole position to sign him up? Cheers, Scouserseb {Ed002's Note - I think there remains a decent chance that he will move to Liverpool.}


He will move if liverpool match fulhams valuation of him


Cheers ed, your opinion is always appreciated..


Ed, Our new signing Ossuama, is he our 1st team choice player? {Ed002's Note - He will be a squad player.}


Clubs really make me laugh just read what Martin Jol said about Dempsey about not selling him cheap and wanting good money 8mil Fact last year of contract take what they can now or get nothing later.We all know he going to leave BR just playing a waiting game 5mil tops and they could be looking to get that he only as to wait till Jan and he could sort out is own transfer and the club would get nothing but a unhappy player for a season.Stop wasting Liverpool time and let the player move let face it good player but no spring chicken he 29 and not going to sign a new contract.

bazza


Jol also said there have been no bids. We have declared an interest, but obviously haven't followed it up. I think the interest was serious, so can only mean that Fulham's valuation and ours are miles apart. Will there be a compromise ?


Just been told Dempsey refusing to play for Fulham now bazza u might have a point

topman lfc


Fulham are saying that Dempsey is refusing to play because he wants to go to Liverpool and Liverpool have not made an offer after the initial inquiry so they have fined Dempsey


We won't pay what Fulham want. The ball is firmly in Fulham's court.
Whether Dempsey's at Anfield come Sept 2, is totally down to Fulham.


No it's down to if Liverpool meet the valuation....


Dempsey still saying he wants CL - Jol will play hardball. 8mill+ or he stays and takes his chance at getting his "dream move" at 30+


Continues Liverpool's tapping up of other club's players. {Ed001's Note - nothing to do with tapping up, the deal hinged on using Adam as a makeweight, he refused to even speak to Fulham as he had no interest in going to London.}


 

 

17 Aug 2012 13:19:52
Dempsey handed in transfer request. looks very likely he will be on his way to liverpool in the coming days .... changed my mind think he will be a good signing. cheers

Danny


Thank god for that Danny hopefully now the club have your seal of approval they step up their efforts to sign him.


Whats made you change your mind - he hasn't played all summer. anybody else getting fed up of reading the same old rubbish. is Dempsey coming.......?? Ramirez coming? whats happening with Tello?? why ask the same question over and over and over. why not just do what we all do and be patient and wait for LFC to confirm on the website. i bet September 1st comes and people will be asking will we be signing Ramirez in January.


Dempsey due to sign on Monday, and what made you think he wouldnt be a good signing previously ? He has been consistently good for the past 3 seasons


Haha well if he scored 20 goals for a poor fulham side he can't be all that bad! solid addition to the side, get a good few years ouot of him. cheers

Danny


Poor Fulham side? That poor they beat you micky mousers twice....


"scored 20 goals for a poor fulham side"

Fulham side that did the double over Liverpool and only finished behind you on goal difference through playing the kids for the last 4 games.........


 

 

17 Aug 2012 12:36:28
Led to believe there was interest earlier this summer in Toby Alderweireld, could be re-kindled if a centre back does in fact leave the club this season?


 

 

17 Aug 2012 12:03:53
Hey Ed's,

I know we have good young defenders in our squad like wilson and coates but as much as i have faith, and i have a lot of faith, I still think it would be nice to get just one more experienced cb in.Carragher was our rock and I think its safe to say that everybody can see he just is not what he was. So what about Hangeland? he is refusing to sign for fulham and I myself havn't heard much speculation about him. It would be nice to know that if Agger is injured and Carragher falling behind that we dont have to put alot of pressure on the young stars in fixtures against utd and city etc. So Ed's do you know of any further interest in a cb? or interest in hangel;and from anybody? and do yous agree that it would be nice to have just one more experienced cb?

thanks as always
LFC Paddy {Ed002's Note - There will be interest in a CB if Agger leaves. Otherwise I would not see one arriving.}


Wilson is a bad player an will never make it at Liverpool! Aggressive will not be leaving


I want to give Wilson a bit more time. He was quality in Scotland.

Hangeland is decent, but not good enough.


Personally I think Wilson would be a good left back (not just because he's left footed). he's good on the ball, good positioning but doesn't have the physicality to be a cb imo. At lb he would be solid I reckon


 

 

17 Aug 2012 11:41:15
hi ed, do you know when this sahin saga will end, in the next day or week? thanks!

TheLoverOfYeahMother {Ed002's Note - Next week.}


He doesnt want to come forget about him just getalonso back lfc forever


Week?
Thought it was imminent?
TT {Ed002's Note - What made you think that?}


It seems we're losing out on sahin , he was supposed to sign yesterday and didn't happen and till today we don't know anything .. please ed002 inform us with the newest about sahin {Ed002's Note - I have done this several times already today.}


Is it taking this long over modric or is it sahin not decided were to go yet thanks


Got a feeling arsenal will pip us for dempsey and sahan,replacements for van purse strings and going for a song


I think that by announcing the completion of the Assaidi signing today today the Sahin loan may not be on the cards or he has decided to move to Arsenal. If it was still on going should Ayre be in Spain and then announce them both together when Sahin has signed


Sahin is not a priority,surely dempsey comes first we still havent got that out and out goalscorer that was surely top priority after last season how many goals did we score at anfield again?come oooonnnnn you reds you know it makes sense!


 

 

17 Aug 2012 11:41:08
With the signing of the Moroccan winger, do we think there's any chance of pulling in Adam Johnston,
especially wtih him coming out and saying he's not happy and wants first team football! Or is BR gonna be satisfied with our midfield now??

Thanks EDS (amazing site!!) {Ed002's Note - I would think it unlikely right now.}


Adam johnson is not good enough in my view.


Why would anyone want him?


Downing out, Johnson in, ideally.

Ash


 

 

17 Aug 2012 11:39:38
oussama assaidi's medical is delaying because everybody is waiting for Sahin deal confirmation. Today afternoon or by tomorrow morning both are likely to undergo medical.. {Ed002's Note - I would not be confident of a decision on Sahin today.}


Y not do we have to wait till real get modric fist or him to decide


 

 

17 Aug 2012 11:02:13
in the dutch press they are writting that we wanted affelay from barca but that he wants to stay at barca and fight for his place,rodgers wanted affelay not tello.


Absolute Rubbish!

NS


 

 

17 Aug 2012 10:43:08
ED002, what is it that Inter and Napoli baulked at? Asking fee, signing on fee or wages?
Would you say that they perhaps were justfied in doing so?

Ray B {Ed002's Note - They were not interested at the 20-25M euro quoted. Inter offered a deal that would have included part ownership of some youngsters and Juve offered a cash plus players deal - including Motta. Napoli are still looking for a player of that ilk and may return to Gaitan.}


For which player? {Ed002's Note - Ramirez.}


 

 

17 Aug 2012 10:34:59
Eds what do think of this talk of Caulker coming in if agger leaves? Isn't he a bit young is he better than Kelly?

Still I suppose its a sneaky way for Brendan to get another Swansea regular! {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of it. Sorry.}


On the Beeb it says Caulker or Dawson... {sigh}


Martin Kelly is much better your a disgrace and caulker is a terrible replacement even if Agger leaves


Michael Dawson?


 

 

17 Aug 2012 10:31:00
Hi ed's, things just starting to hot up nicely, have any of u or anyone else heard anything more on the Ricardo quaresma rumours that were flying around last week, seems to have gone quiet? Cheers gaz {Ed002's Note - Besiktas have been talking to Atletico Madrid but him.}


 

 

17 Aug 2012 10:24:05
Sahin deal is very much in the balance due to Wenger's intervention, Liverpool are no longer as confident as they were that he will choose us over Arsenal. Hopefully we will still get him and announce the signing later today as we are pushing for a quick resolution.


So wenger stating that he already has far too many midfielders even if Song goes makes you think he wants another one?


Could be smoke and mirrors....

rrrRedAlert


So you don't thin we have enough midfielders ourselves?


He has already said it is a possibility he could go to arsenal
lfclee


I got a feeling we'll lose out to Arsenal now!
TT


I don't think we have enough good ones.


Thought the deal for sahin was in the bag,looks pretty clear to me that the player is holding out for a move to arsenal otherwise he would be signed by now....another one slips the net!


I don't think we have enough good midfielders, no.


Apparently Sahin does want the Liverpool move but other factors are placing a bit of doubt on us getting him.


Will go for Champs league team


 

 

17 Aug 2012 09:36:23
Not really relevant to Liverpool as neither of the parties were interested in a move, but has Javi Martinez signed for Bayern Munich?

Cheers Ed's in advance.

RedsMatt {Ed002's Note - Not yet.}


And is it also true that Gaston Ramirez is going to sign for Southampton today, I heard rumours that they agreed a fee from people who live here but was always like "pahaha you'll never sign him" but apparently there is a chance of it. You can check my IP or whatever if you don't believe that I am in Southampton.

Ben {Ed002's Note - I don't know if it will be today.}


Liverpool would clearly have been interested in martinez if he would have wanted to sign for liverpool.but not a chance anyone of his calibre would sign for liverpool


 

 

17 Aug 2012 09:53:12
HI Eds
Do you think there is still a good chance we will sign Tello, Sahin and Dempsey or is Dempsey are best chance. If it's true Arsenal have made a last ditch attempt to sign Sahin, you would think he would favour them over us as they have been his preference all along

EJ {Ed002's Note - There is plenty of interest in Sahin from Italy and Turkey as well. I have no way of telling what he wants. As for DEmpsey, Liverpool remain interested. Tello I don't know, but suspect it is less likely.}


 

 

17 Aug 2012 09:12:17
Morning lfc fans Southampton to sign ramirez can't beleave it it looks like the markets hotting up.if we do sign that moroccan dude where does that leave our youngsters I understand where we are as a club but believe we will get it right one day I think it's wrong to sign that dude if we can't afford real quality players then instead of wasting what little money we have on another maybe player why not let our youngsters lose why not keep Carol BR needs to be more flexible with the way the team plays he seems a little naive to me i know he needs time will he get it I doubt it. Plus our owners moaning about money allready with what we've got in with player sales it's not that much plus they got our club for peanuts. I'll follow my team as I always do from my heart we don't need to sign anyone we need to back what we've got and give are young guns to shine not waste money on a player who may come good


Don't worry, when they get relegated we can pick him up on the cheap


John Henry said it is a tougher challenge, financially, and will take Liverpool a longer time than Red Sox to get back to their ways. I don't think he is unwilling to support LFC financially.


The Moroccan dude has been signed, subject to a medical. Kelly, Morgan, Sterling, Robinson etc are all young English players getting a chance. BR naive? Don't think so. And Carroll still hasn't been sold. Ramirez to Southampton? Believe it when I see it.


I remember talking to a celtic fan years ago and said to him well any new signings and he moaned about some player they spent 750,000 on some boy called Larsson well we khow that turned out, so give the lad a chance the amount of games and injurys we will have this season ,we will need all the good players we can get.A lot of posters were on here slating money we were paying out and saying how great Newcastle could unearth a good bargain, maybe assadi is going to be a bargain lets not get on his back before a ball has been kicked even the London media wouldnt do that.Tommy Irish Red


I remember talking to a celtic fan years ago and said to him well any new signings and he moaned about some player they spent 750,000 on some boy called Larsson well we khow that turned out, so give the lad a chance the amount of games and injurys we will have this season ,we will need all the good players we can get.A lot of posters were on here slating money we were paying out and saying how great Newcastle could unearth a good bargain, maybe assadi is going to be a bargain lets not get on his back before a ball has been kicked even the London media wouldnt do that.Tommy Irish Red


If we cant afford quality players ? Why on earth do you think your now an expert ? Assaidi is a top player and he is 24 years old. Compared to our up and coming youngsters such as Suso and Sterling, he has SEVEN years more experience than them and thats why we have signed him.

Borini, Allen and Assaidi are all proven players at the right age and the right skills and atitude to play amongst the elite of the PREM.

Our young kids need to patient their time will surely come, but in the meantime try accepting that our manager and FSG know what they are doing. Get behind them and support properly !

Tel 1949


How can you say that BR is naive? We have only played 2 competitive games and we have won them both. Let the man do his job and then make statements at the end of the season.


I believe Assaidi has been brought in as a replacement for one of the outgoing players (Kuyt/Rodriguez/Bellamy). Which I am glad about, if we get hit with a few injuries we havent got the quality to cover the wings.

Rodgers is building a very versatile, skillfull front line which can only be good for us. The youngsters will get a chance but we need strength in depth.


That dudes name is assaidi, So why is Assaidi not quality, cos we are not paying 20 million quid for him!!!, its about time we got a bargain instead of paying over the odds like normal


Have faith in the style of play my friend, look throughout the generations at how teams have dominated use this style, and remember we are in the Europa league so our youngsters will get their chance...I'm quitely optimistic


Heranadez only costMan Utd £6 million. I would not be too worried about his fee. I have to say he does look like an exciting player and a near 1 in 3 goal ratio isnt bad either. Also for £3 million? Its a no brainer really.

The Irish Rover


Only 3 mill. so folks think he is no good yet when other clubs sign 3M players the cry is "why can't we get deals like that". No pleasing some folks
CR


So, because you haven't heard of a player he isn't worth spending money on? Would you rather risk the £14m on Ramirez than £3m on Assaidi? £3m is a fantastic price for a player who shows promise, and for once Liverpool FC might not lose 10-20m on a player if he does under perform. Also you would like to replace Maxi, Kuyt & Bellamy with Sterling? With the Europa league and push for CL it is imperative to have some depth to our squad, get behind your team and manager who for the first time in recent years are running a business well
YNWA
Jevon


I hadn't any knowledge of Xabi Alonso or Sami Hyypia. Both worked out. Others haven't for LFC including some high value internationals (no names as these are still exceptional players). £2 or £3 million is not a big investment in todays terms. Hopefully one or two of the three signings can match the names I mention above.


Persons like these should be shot. go support citeh or the shower, "dude".

1. not once did henry et al. whinge about having to sell to buy but more of competitiveness in general.
2. assaidi will be good. mark my words. i watched a lot of eredivisie and along with narsingh and dost, heerenveen murdered defences- it was just that they had a leaky defence.

in a long time, after the backstabbing of rafa, the rubbishe that was roy and the unfortunate return of kenny, this has been one season i am hugely excited about- we are finally doing pass and move (which rafa tried to do here and at inter- high backline, quick overlaps, etc), we have owners who back the manager (who has the right mindset and tactics) and the right personnel in a long time.

as i said, the op is an person. there's a bandwagon over at cska fulham, citeh, and at paris. go there if you want superstars- we have a winning team right here. seriously what a dumb f...


Moroccan dude has signed. If he's a back up then it will hinder Sterling's development. If he's the main signing, then that shows our ambition in the market. Poor signing either way


If you bother to do some home work on Assaidi you will find he is the player keeping Adel Taarabt out of the Morrocan national side.


FSG bought LFC for £302M! I love your idea of peanuts, I'm guessing you're not an accountant?


Right on "dude"


I suggest you look at videos of him on you tube,he looks classy.


Moan, Moan, Moan, we didn't sign a World Class recognised player for £35m is all I'm hearing here. Sick of hearing all this to be honest. No pleasing some of our deluded, quick win fans. Go support City.

MarkB.


^^ err.. liverpool would normally cost about £500m. top work..


Assaidi is better than Ramirez on FIFA so he must be better... Joke but Assaidi does look class on YouTube (I know not hard) but he definitely has some skills.


Sounds like ya don't have any faith. If that's the case then there is a small, faithless and potless club across Stanley Park u can "support". They're always takin on new whining little bitches


Who did u want us to sign? damien duff?


I'm sick of reading about fans who are quick to judge a player without even seeing him put a jersey on. You've decided to hate him
Before a boot has been laced. I truly believe that under Rodgers we can achieve a European spot. So stop whining! This transfer could be signing of the season. No one in the EPL will know how to defend against him! Our squad is coming along nicely and youth will get a chance.


 

 

17 Aug 2012 08:48:50
Ramirez to southampton 11.8mill. Really? {Ed052's Note - He will surely reject them. You never know thought!!}


He's happy with the offer... I'm afraid to say I think this is happening {Ed052's Note - it will happen, but I have just explained why it doesnt matter, in my rant earlier on}


He just came out and said he is excited about this move. He says he feels he can be a major player for them as well.
Well done Southampton plus it's nice to see a player who dosent think he is to good for a club.


He's already been quoted as saying he's agreed terms and Southampton are a club 'on the way to the top' or something like that.. what an person {Ed052's Note - he is going there yes}


Apparently they have offered him good terms, so he is going {Ed052's Note - He is yes}


Can't believe he'd go to a club with not even a sniff of European football simply because of wages... He could have had tottenham or Liverpool, but oh, wait,nth at great team Southampton, I'll go there instead {Ed052's Note - Thats why we dont want him, so nobody should be too bothered about him}


If we lose out on ramirez to southampton then we must be persons, we've been after him for months. {Ed002's Note - Did you not read any of the Editor's notes about Ramirez?}


He seems happy to guarantee football week in week out


Hi Eds, Ramirez himself has said he is happy with the move and that personal terms have already been agreed. £11.8m was a very good price for liverpool had they followed it up. {Ed002's Note - I don#'t see how Liverpool come in to the matter, sorry.}


On ESPN, he said that he has more or less reached personal terms with the Saints.

Prelen


That and Southampton have promised him Gargano from Napoli to help him settle, they have financial muscle and now offer prem football playing in a very south American Barcelona type way like Swansea


Southamptons new Keagan lol next step Newcastle.


Well it proves that "every tree has some good fruits and some rotten fruits". Not every Uruguayan player come to LFC. But if Ramirez is going there for the wages, then best of luck to him(oh the look on his face when Southampton are getting relegated)....


As I have said before, who at Liverpool ever said we were after Ramirez? We didn't want the guy in the first place, it was paper talk and supporters getting carried away.


Im glad we didnt buy him, i think. weve just spent 3mill on a player who will prove to be better.
carlo poca techa


He gave an interview staying that he is interested


The funny thing is that if I was a fan of a Prem club, which I am (Liverpool obviously) but I currently live inSouthampton. The last owner who passed away left all his fortunes to the Club and his family, approx 1 billion is for the club for his 5 year plan to get into Europe. That money is for transfer, wages and development. They already plan on upgrading ST Marys to 48,000 seats (more than Anfield) plus one of the best training centers in the world.

I will always be a Liverpool supporter but don't mock something you probably have no clue about.

Ben


Well said Ben, good luck to the lad and the Saints. Very good bit of business by then.

Red-Ray


Was wanting Ramiarez just sheer gossip or was Liverpool at any point on the verge of signing him or does his imminent transfer to Southampton an indication on how Liverpool is now perceived as a lesser team throughout Europe. {Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation on plenty of occasions - try the search function.}


Ha. A lot of sour grapes. He chose us for first team football and to be at the forefront of a club that will grow to compete at the top of the table. Some of you uninformed lot like ED 052 will laugh but Perhaps you should get your facts straight before you start slagging off other clubs and players. Saints have not offered him stupid money, we are building with ambition but methodically, not like QPR or Man City. We have billionaire owners, the best academy in England by a long way, world class facilities and a stadium which will be expanded to 50'000. When the new financial fair play rules come in, while other clubs that do pay stupid wages and fees scramble to adjust, we will be one of the biggest fish in the pond. Comments slating our club or players is simply sour grapes from a bunch of dreamer has-beens bitter in the shadow of Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City. Expect to tussle with Southampton for players again as the gulf in class shrinks rapidly.


By the way, thanks to those of you that have been humble and wished us luck. Ben is clearly one of the few that doesn't live in a little red bubble of delusion.


 

 

17 Aug 2012 07:46:23
Hey Eds,
Where is Sahin likely to end up ?
This is dragging on a bit like the gylfi Saga. {Ed002's Note - There is a lot of interest in Sahin and some interest comes from clubs in teh Champions League. It will be sorted out very soon.}


Ed is it still likely he will come to us? {Ed002's Note - There has to be a good chance, but there remains interest from elsewhere.}


Ed if we miss out on sahin could u see us quickly signing someone else in that position like we did with assaidi/tello? {Ed002's Note - Perhaps. Nobody wants to see a knee jerk reaction and much will depend on who is available on loan.}


Gutted about this i really thought we would get him, now i fear we wont.. watch arsenal go get him!!


Losing out to that feeder club Arsenal, if the manage to buy Sahin they will only sell him to city or united in a couple of years anyway.


But i thought liverpool was willing to pay more of the wages? will this deal be solved today ED002?

Don {Ed002's Note - I have no idea what the financial provisions are at all. I do not expect it to be resolved today and I am sure folks will still be talking about it next week. Fazeli has said that he is disappointed that AC Milan has not provided a firm offer.}


 

 

17 Aug 2012 00:08:38
ed's seen that Sinclair isn't going to sign a new contract, do you think that we will go on for him? {Ed029's Note - Our targets seem to be elsewhere at the moment but theoretically there is a chance as I am assuming this would negate the agreement we had about buying Swansea players. I did think that Man City were keen on him though}


 

 

17 Aug 2012 01:43:32
Nuri Sahin looking about 80% likely to come, Adam Johnson not so much as he wants to try and break into the City 1st XI...Ed can u clear up the Ramirez business? Is he likely to come or not etc., and what's happening with adam cheers {Ed049's Note - I don't think Ramirez will be signing for Liverpool, it is likely Adam will be sold.}


Arsenal seem to think CL football will sway Sarin their way.
CR


The thing about Sahin that bothers me is the press claiming he´d rather join Arsenal but that the deal will sway towards us due to pressure from Mourinho, Alonso etc. telling him to join Liverpool. As undoubtedly talented as he is ( and i think we´d ALL be happy for him to join) - do we want a player who, apparently, doesn´t want to join us? If what the press has been writing it true - we´d get a player who sees us as the less attractive option. Will that reflect his performance? As Dalglish said - you can´t keep a player who wants to leave. But do we want a player who doesn´t really want to join? I mean - these are rumours but numerous sources, however accurate, have portrayed him as favouring Arsenal. We may not have excelled in the last few years but surely we still have our pride? I want hungry players, not complacant ones.


Ramirez look likely to go to southampton


You need to balance it all out and remember the press has a huge bias towards anything London


I'd love Adam Johnson out of all them


 

 

17 Aug 2012 02:19:07
sahin will be signing this afternoon and will be at the game watvhing on sat!

andy08


 

 

17 Aug 2012 01:33:21
As I said earlier in the week regarding nuri sahin that we were positive on getting him, but nowhere near 100% guaranteed as other media sources were making it appear. last night arsenal asked sahin to hold off on a possible move to Merseyside. Three player, infuriatingly, has agreed

-yodaMASTER


Read it from daily mail?......haha


Can't believe you were the first person sahin called after speaking with wenger!! Hope you convinced him we are a better option!


If he wishes to remain a Real player after his loan period why would he go against the wishes of Jose and go on loan to Arsenal? If he does want to leave Real why go out on loan as there would be suitors for a straight transfer?

Dave


Dave I love that u are a 100 percent right


 

 

17 Aug 2012 01:30:21
Grahem Hunter, a well respected, reliable man regarding news in Spain has said Sahin's move too Liverpool is imminent.


He says many things, that man.

MPez


 

 

17 Aug 2012 01:02:06
Rodgers is still pursuing loan deals for Nuri Sahin of Real Madrid and Barcelona's Cristian Tello and said on Thursday that he hopes "to get one or two in within the next 48 hours".


After the "one or two in" comment we signed Assaidi... so, who knows!?!?!


Well we got one yesterday. Sahin possible, Tello I very much doubt. Scouser Tommy


 

 

17 Aug 2012 00:57:03
Is Scott Sinclair a target now he's available?

The big Nolo


Hope not , useless!!


 

 

17 Aug 2012 00:19:01
very worried sahin will be swayed by arsenal... they're really trying to hijack the move.. he was due to sign tomorrow but this could be bad news unless LFC can tie this up quickly
evz


Sahin is, at this moment, in the Radisson Hotel. He will wake up at 7am, have breakfast, then travel to Melwood to begin his medical. Billy Mc.


If he's so easily swayed then he doesn't belong to a club like LFC. DAP red


Didnt they steal that great player chamack(spelling ) of us a few years ago lol,hope we get this kid looks a good addition if we get him,besides if he turns out any good w---er will sell him to 1 of the mancs and make them stronger.Tommy Irish Red


 

 

17 Aug 2012 00:16:26
Heard If Liverpool compete signings of assaidi and Sahin loan, jay spearing will be on his way to forest on a seasons long loan
Coming from a forest fan, I think this would be good for both parties- from what I've seen of him he's not good enough for the prem but might be handy in the championship.

Chris


Actually, I hope that Jay will move on. I'm not impressed by him when he plays.


Why loan a player who is 24 in a few weeks time , what would that achieve ?


Well at his age he should be looking to be playing at least 80% of the matches at liverpool he wont get near that, unless rodgers wants him till jan for europa league he is not as bad as some posts suggest but that europa league cant be first teamers a big squad is needed and imo jay is a good squad man.Tommy irish Red


Spearing is staying


 

 

16 Aug 2012 22:26:24
When is assaidi's medical? Is it tomorrow, if so do you think he will be on the bench against west brom? Please reply!


I'd rather have Sterling playing any new signing is gonna put the blocks on his development.


I doubt it. I wouldn't worry too much about 1 game. Let the lad settle in.


 

 

17 Aug 2012 00:00:42
so i have said before that brendan will shock everyone in the tramsfer summer transfer market so he have, brendan is looking at young talented players for us so we can improve how team, i know some people saying who is assiadi to be honest i didnt have a clue but because im a lfc and my family and are swansea fans and i like swansea i can surely say that we must trust in brendan, this new signing will shock people hes a 23 year old and talented i really cant wait to see him play, i think sahin is close to us and should be in the morning but you never know brendan rodgers might bring someone else in i wont mind though because i believe in brendan and trust in him he knows his young talent, i can say that the only over age player he be buying is dempsey unless dempsey decides to go else where,


He is 24 his birthday was last wednesday the 15th
Zincho


 

 

16 Aug 2012 22:12:05
Just letting you know i dont its a move too liverpool but, Nigel de jong has pulled up too the hilton hotel in liverpool with many many papz outside, maybe a move to everton?


Everton obtained £12 million for Rodwell and are allegedly spending around £5 million for Mirallas and another £5 or£6 million on Charlie Adam so I'd very much doubt they can also shell out on Nigel de Jong.Especially in view of Everton's need to pay back some of their club debt.

The Plank


He's there for a session with Andy Carroll !!


 

 

16 Aug 2012 21:48:23
Liverpool have accepted a £5m bid for Charlie Adam from merseyside rivals Everton. Nuri Sahin is the man to replace Adam with a season long loan deal from Real Madrid very close. Christian Tello has decided to sign a new contract at Barcelona so unfortunately we will not get to see him at Anfield. Brendan Rodgers has about £15m left to spend and he is still keen on Gaston Ramirez which is one of the reasons he is looking for value elsewhere, selling Adam and loaning Sahin is a very good start saving money and improving the squad. Liverpool were told last night that Tello would not be moving, the back up plan was SC Herenveen winger Oussama Assaidi and they have moved swiftly to wrap up a £2.4m deal. Liverpool are planning to open talks with Bologna over the transfer fee of long term target Gaston Ramirez, the Reds will need to at least match Spurs £12.6m bid but they will wait until Adam completes his move across the Mersey. Andy Carroll and Daniel Agger will definitely be staying at Anfield for the coming season. Jay Spearing and Dani Pacheco will be allowed to leave the club if any suitable offers are made with the latter looking more likely to leave.Liverpool have stopped talks over the transfer of Clint Dempsey as Fulham have failed to budge on their £9m valuation of the 29-year old. LFC Predicted Transfer activity summer 2012 In-Borini/Allen/Assaidi/Sahin{loan}/Ramirez Out-Aurelio/Kuyt/Maxi/Aquilani/Bellamy/Adam/Pacheco


This seems a bit off to me, tello would need to sign a contract with barca to go on a season long loan otherwise he would be free at the end of the season. Also if Adam went to Everton that would not be a move across the Mersey as this says. Does the person who wrote this have a clue? I don't think so!


The ins and outs would be a dream summer...


Yeah right, need a striker since AC and Borini are the only 2 Suarez is more of a playmaker than a 30 goal a season striker... Plus we need to replace what we have sold as we need a big squad with Europa League...


Very detailed information, rather undermined by describing Adam to Everton as a move across the Mersey.
A few moments on google maps might have helped your credibility.

Sherlock


This sounds like the perfect squad to me if we can also get rid of spearing then even better.

Rays Of Red


Its 100% bs


Didnt know Everton were based across the river. Plonker!


Another winger instead of Ramirez


 

 

16 Aug 2012 21:38:15
Tello will no longer sign now we have Assaidi but we will still get Sahin and Dempsey.


 

 

 
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