Liverpool Rumours Archive November 16 2017

 

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16 Nov 2017 17:37:04
Ronaldinho the current person to promote the Pipco to Barcelona move.

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16 Nov 2017 23:48:01
Looking forward to ed001's legends article on Ronaldinho. My favourite player. Just watched a video of him doing 50 keep-ups blindfolded, including a backheel! Also of him chasing after a pitch invader to give him a hug. Made my day that.

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{Ed007's Note - I think Ronaldinho is often overlooked when the best players of all time discussions come up.
If you're messing about on youtube look up Nakamura bus....

17 Nov 2017 01:04:37
For about 3-4 years in the mid 2000’s Ronaldinho was absolutely magnificent, easily the best player in the world at the time. One of my favourite players ever and just as much talent as anyone I have ever seen play the game.

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{Ed001's Note - shame he thought partying was more important than training. A bit of effort and he would have stayed at the top instead of fading away.}

17 Nov 2017 03:41:34
The happy pills was it? No wonder he was always smiling.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't know about that, he just was up until all hours in clubs, flying back to Brazil during the season to go to fiestas, and so skipped a lot of training sessions. He was not a good trainer at all, he just wanted to mess around.}

17 Nov 2017 11:00:48
He won everything there was to win, is regarded as one of the all time greats, and did it all without training hard, partying and having fun.
What a life he has lead. I won't knock him for any of it.

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17 Nov 2017 13:57:01
That is an amazing way to look at it benny. Was already a huge fan of him but when you put it like that- he's just hit legendary status for me.

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{Ed001's Note - except he could have won a lot more and stayed at Barca for another 5 years and actually made an argument for being one of the best instead he partied and faded early.}

17 Nov 2017 15:16:45
Yeah aoe I’m not sure that is what makes him a legend. Seems like a waste of God-given talent to me.

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17 Nov 2017 15:32:42
Perhaps it was the having fun that made him so good. Look at the England squad- no fun there! I love how he’d throw a shape, a dance move, wait to see how his defender would react, then exploit the weakness, like in capoeira. He made it like a martial art, with a ball. Shame that he didn’t train. What would we have been treated to then? Same as original Ronaldo I think you said once Ed001?

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{Ed001's Note - it would have been interesting to see, would he have blocked Messi's development?}

17 Nov 2017 16:19:17
He's just a different type of legend.

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17 Nov 2017 16:39:03
My favorite player too. For me he is up there with Messi and Ronaldo.

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17 Nov 2017 16:55:12
Messi and Ronaldo showed commitment to their craft for the vast majority of their careers. Their first thought was improving themselves every single day, to focus on getting better and better.

Ronaldinho is not in the same category as those two. He spent most of his time partying, missed training sessions and believed all the hype generated by the media. It went to his head and, just when it looked like he could be mentioned in the same breath of the best footballers to ever exist, he ruined everything. The man put on so much weight, focused on showing off to the crowd rather than play for the team. He was a hindrance in the end and, thankfully, was removed before it could effect Messi's development.

Ronaldinho is not a world class player, in my opinion, to be world class you need to maintain your best. Ronaldinho disrespected his profession by not commiting and, as a result, he should not be considered anywhere near world class.

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17 Nov 2017 17:13:03
Totally agree mango. I think the point was that he enjoyed himself and likely doesn't regret too much. I think that's what benny was alluding to.

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{Ed001's Note - I doubt it, I am sure he regrets not winning more trophies. You can enjoy yourself and work hard, plenty have done in the past.}

17 Nov 2017 23:13:27
Like Gazza and George Best, great players who's genius was all natural.

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17 Nov 2017 23:13:27
Like Gazza and George Best, great players who's genius was all natural.

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18 Nov 2017 06:35:06
Capoeira is a dance btw, has nothing to do with Martial Arts.

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{Ed001's Note - it is a martial art designed to look like a dance developed when Brazilians were banned from practising martial arts. Breakdancing came from it, but it is a martial art.}

18 Nov 2017 10:43:13
Hehe, i know the history behind the dance Mr.001 :D and i know that some people call it a Martial Art, but it is not comparable to anything close to Martial Art, there is not one technique from Capoeira that is actually effective when you compare to other Martial art forms. I just got my blue belt in bjj ( not very good) and im a mediocre kickboxer and i would absolutely destroy any Capoeira artist in the world. It was just an bad attempt to slag off what is the most ridicoulous form of Martial Arts in the world ( after aikido :D )

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{Ed001's Note - if you say so.}

18 Nov 2017 11:12:42
Dont be mad ed, i didn't know you were so found of dancing.

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{Ed001's Note - you really need to work on your banter.}

19 Nov 2017 09:30:36
I have seen people knock people out cold with them capeiera windmill kicks on YouTube nasty stuff, like eddy of tekken very effective.

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19 Nov 2017 23:45:14
Not vs someone who has trained martial arts, and tekken is a video game :D.

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16 Nov 2017 17:35:17
Afternoon all, welcome new Ed333.

Wolfsburg on keep on a permanent deal for Divock - quote from there chief -

"We'd act negligently not to try, " he told Kicker. "We are proud that we were able to convince Divock to come here. "He feels good here, and we are working on the rest. "

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16 Nov 2017 19:08:48
Honestly think its the best move for the lad. He needs to be starting week in week out, but having competition to lose that place all the while. Wolfsburg is a good club too. A lot can happen between now and next summer though.

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17 Nov 2017 16:38:23
Maybe a buy back clause inserted. Even though that is very rare by English clubs.

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