Liverpool Rumours Archive November 16 2010

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16 Nov 2010 23:49:14
This has been on my mind for weeks now, the way woy play his team, not to lose, contradicts every thing john henry has said about NESV being winners, and bringing the winning mentality back to LFC! the longer they keep him, the more chance there is of us finishing mid table at best, and relegation at worst. but lets face it, there is still a chance of us getting a top 4 slot, which would mean champions league football next year, if they got rid of woy now. are they prepared to just sit back and lose out on the extra money, and the attraction to the big named players, being in the competition gives

16 Nov 2010 23:47:34
Here is a thought from out left field

we are looking for a coach who plays the game the right way, looking for an opening in the big time, is now being touted as a future England manager, he is young and a former Liverpool player.


Nigel Clough. . . . . . . . he certainly plays the game the right way and fits everything we want. young and worth a shout, remember he played at the club when we still had a boot room

just a thought

16 Nov 2010 23:39:26
Roy isn't going anywere! Its just not going to happen, people have to start being realistic about transfers we will probably by a few bit part strikers not world class but not the worst in the world , such players are:

Keane - Didnt get treated right an i thought hed have done well
pavlyuchenko - think hes a good player but he nocked us back last transfer window (Fact)
Lavezzi - we were linked with him under benitez
a player who i like is Rodellaga an id have him at liverpool as a half par striker , i was right about an interest in Kenwyne Jones :D

There are loads of players we could go for but be realistic
Danny D From Liverpool

16 Nov 2010 23:38:10
16 Nov 2010 16:37:38 Liverpool Rumours Why dint roy use the 11.5 million he used for mileres to buy turan"
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the midfield is short of players as it is. Miereles is a wonderful world class player and who is usually very consistent. the question u should ask should be why he bought poulsen.

miccmak

16 Nov 2010 23:29:05
LIVERPOOL TO BRING IN TWO YOUNG TALENTS IN JANUARY IN THE SHAPE OF
ADAM BARTON 4M FROM PRESTON
CONNOR WICKHAM 7M FROM IPSWICH

BIG BUYS WILL BE

GARY CAHILL 12M
HONDA 10M
ADAM JOHNSON 15M
EDIN DZENKO 25M

PLAYER OUTS
DANIEL AGGER. 7M
CHRISTIAN POULSON 4M
RYAN BABEL 9M
MILAN JOVANAVIC 3M

16 Nov 2010 23:28:46
Browsing some of my fellows wishlists I found a deal that could actually go through. Glen Johnson swap for Adam Johnson. City do not have a world class right back to go with their world class team, and while we know Glen is lacking a lot they might still be convinced because of his regular place in the England team. We would be getting a true winger with massive potential who can play on either the right or the left. I would take this deal in a heartbeat but the real question is would city go for it? It would be great to get Johnson's big waste of wages of the books and Kelly is surely more than capable to take over as first-choice RB until Carra's CB spot opens up. Ed do you think they would go for it? {ed's note - I wish mate, but I very much doubt it. Even if we could convince them it seems GJ has his heart set on Spain.}

16 Nov 2010 23:23:16
John henry and co are in a no win situation with hodgson, and he knows it, just look at the predicament he has them in.

a/ if they sack him now, the press will have a field day making him the victim, and damage NESV'S image.
b/ if they keep him, they face loss of key players, loss of fans support and trust, and a relegation battle.
c/ he will never quit, he is in denial, and his arrogance will never let him.
d/ and this is the only way to be rid of him, and that is to bide their time, and just let him make enough mistakes, so their only option is to sack him.

16 Nov 2010 23:16:25
Well Macca do you think Paco would come now? Do you think we are interested in Adam Johnson or any idea who well sign?

16 Nov 2010 23:11:43
Commenting on the renewed calls for Kun Aguero. I too use to think he was the answer and I still have no doubt he would be great alongside Fernando, however I now feel Llorrente would be a better move for our club. Aguero is an outstanding talent but he is not actually much different player from Pacheco. And I think Pacheco will become a player of that quality if we give him enough chances in the next couple of years. And if we had Kun right now, Roy would probably stick him out on the wing or on the bench. What do all of you think? Of course we would all have both if we could but choosing just one is it Llorrente or Aguero?
Anfield Rapstar

16 Nov 2010 23:05:58
16 Nov 2010 22:40:46
Just checking the archives and found this gem!
This is actually someones ideal team for this season.

Ideal team XI

GK:Riena
LB:Aurelio
RB:Johnson
CB:Carragher
CB:Agger
DM:Poulsen (Benega/ Parker)
CM:Gerrard
RW:Babbel
LW:Young
CF:J.Cole
St:Torres


please no ash young. one trick pony, weak mentally. .
villa is his level

16 Nov 2010 22:49:47
Hodgson to be sacked within 2 weeks

16 Nov 2010 22:48:02
16 Nov 2010 22:41:41
Did you see that picture on the club website of carra watching the reserves game. I don't know if this is a regular thing but I do not think so because they made a specific note of it in the match report.

So here's my wild theory of the day - Carragher is being lined up as a manager candidate. That is why he was watching the match tonight. He has all his coaching badges done right? And he is such a student of the game. I feel he could do a very good job and of course has the respect of all of the playing staff. And perhaps his new three year contract is not meant for three years of playing. At the very least I would expect him to become part of the coaching setup. What do you think reds? Ed am I losing it?
Anfield Rapstar {ed's note - I do expect him to become a part of the coaching set up, but I don't see him as the new manager.}

Yes your losing it. He signed a 2 year contract not 3 and is a regular viewer if reserve and acadamy games. .

16 Nov 2010 22:43:56
So it now looks like liverpool could be signing players but only the right players for the right price(sound like hes trying to stop clubs asking for too much for players- *thoughts Ed? *)
Players linked recently are
Antoine Greizman 19 yr old LW
Adam Johnson LW
Lucas Barrios ST
Fanni RB

and Insua back from loan.

Also he said we could sign WC players if price is right bla bla, would love that to be Aguero! {ed's note - or it could be an easy way to explain why we don't get anyone, just say the prices were too high.}

16 Nov 2010 22:41:41
Did you see that picture on the club website of carra watching the reserves game. I don't know if this is a regular thing but I do not think so because they made a specific note of it in the match report.

So here's my wild theory of the day - Carragher is being lined up as a manager candidate. That is why he was watching the match tonight. He has all his coaching badges done right? And he is such a student of the game. I feel he could do a very good job and of course has the respect of all of the playing staff. And perhaps his new three year contract is not meant for three years of playing. At the very least I would expect him to become part of the coaching setup. What do you think reds? Ed am I losing it?
Anfield Rapstar {ed's note - I do expect him to become a part of the coaching set up, but I don't see him as the new manager.}

16 Nov 2010 22:40:46
Just checking the archives and found this gem!
This is actually someones ideal team for this season.

Ideal team XI

GK:Riena
LB:Aurelio
RB:Johnson
CB:Carragher
CB:Agger
DM:Poulsen (Benega/ Parker)
CM:Gerrard
RW:Babbel
LW:Young
CF:J.Cole
St:Torres

Cant stop laughing at Poulsen and erm, is that Marcus Babbel on the RW? ha a

16 Nov 2010 22:34:48
If no-one else, Adam Johnson.

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roy would probably play him as a right back anyway

chris 1

16 Nov 2010 22:30:56
16 Nov 2010 22:11:19
If no-one else, Adam Johnson

man city won't sell a star like him to english rivals

16 Nov 2010 22:11:19
If no-one else, Adam Johnson.

16 Nov 2010 22:07:06
Why dint roy use the 11.5 million he used for mileres to buy turan
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Because Mereiles is older (more experienced) and not a true attacking talent (more defensive) and that suits Roy's tactics and mindset perfectly - LIVERPRES

16 Nov 2010 22:06:13
We have a number of potential young players that deserve a chance in the first team. at present we are losing games and the team showing no desire or fight. So even if we play the young players at least we will see the desire. I would like to see the likes of Wilson, Amoo, Pacheco, Mavinga given a chance but I am afraid they won't under Hodgson. How are they going to learn, not playing at Prenton Park for the stiffs. Give them a chance if they don't shape up after a run of games fine let them go. Come on Hodgson show some bottle and give them a chance. Hit belv if you agree

16 Nov 2010 22:02:40
Been on Sky Sports, and Camolli says that NESV will release the funds for a top class player if the price is right.
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Buy llorente and play upfront with torres in a 442. can't be worse than what we doing at present

chris 1

16 Nov 2010 21:56:53
Pako was offered the assistant mangers job under Grant

16 Nov 2010 21:56:00
Is it just me guys, or does Commoli sound like Ali G?

Cad

16 Nov 2010 21:51:59
Been on Sky Sports, and Camolli says that NESV will release the funds for a top class player if the price is right.

I don't think this will happen in January tbh. Because it's only a one-month window it means player prices will raise.

I wonder who they have in mind?

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Honda
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Wouldn't be surprised if he was a target given his commercial potential and playing ability. But I wouldn't brand him as "top class" just yet.

I would have imagined a "Torres type" signing would be in mind. I don't mean spending £50m on someone, I would imagine if a top player could be found for £20m or so, NESV will fund the deal.

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Kun Aguero?
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Funnily enough, I had him in mind. But I don't think we'd get him for any less than £30m and I can't see it happening personally.

But you never know. If we could cut the fee down to about £25m (somehow) then maybe NESV would fund it.

16 Nov 2010 21:45:35
Been on Sky Sports, and Camolli says that NESV will release the funds for a top class player if the price is right.

I don't think this will happen in January tbh. Because it's only a one-month window it means player prices will raise.

I wonder who they have in mind?

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Honda
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Wouldn't be surprised if he was a target given his commercial potential and playing ability. But I wouldn't brand him as "top class" just yet.

I would have imagined a "Torres type" signing would be in mind. I don't mean spending £50m on someone, I would imagine if a top player could be found for £20m or so, NESV will fund the deal.

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Kun Aguero?

16 Nov 2010 21:42:30
Pako got offered the West Ham job before Avram.

He refused because of there precarious financial position.

He also didn't fancy working for Liverpool while the old owners where in place.

Macca

16 Nov 2010 21:41:44
Been on Sky Sports, and Camolli says that NESV will release the funds for a top class player if the price is right.

I don't think this will happen in January tbh. Because it's only a one-month window it means player prices will raise.

I wonder who they have in mind?

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Honda
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Wouldn't be surprised if he was a target given his commercial potential and playing ability. But I wouldn't brand him as "top class" just yet.

I would have imagined a "Torres type" signing would be in mind. I don't mean spending £50m on someone, I would imagine if a top player could be found for £20m or so, NESV will fund the deal.

16 Nov 2010 21:40:11
Guys heres a thought for you to digest. .
There is an excellent variety of opinions consistently been posted in regard to the current form of the team, some blame the manager, some blame the players, others blame the transition from the takeover? I like a large amount of posters and supporters want to support the team (which includes the manager whom ever he may be) 100% however this is impossible when you have to suffer the worst football I have ever seen by an LFC (Includes Souness era) team and yet we are expected to accept that it will improve? Why will it improve because we have a respected, experienced and genuine manager?? All we have got so far is 1) B/ S excuses e.g Played well first half against Stoke? 2) Panders to Fergusons Man Ure & does not defend our players 3) Publicly ridicules senior players to take the heat of himself. . . Guys surely its a no brainer Bel stays Unbel Has to go. . Mortk2001

16 Nov 2010 21:30:53
Been on Sky Sports, and Camolli says that NESV will release the funds for a top class player if the price is right.

I don't think this will happen in January tbh. Because it's only a one-month window it means player prices will raise.

I wonder who they have in mind?

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Honda

16 Nov 2010 21:29:24
Ed wat do you think about aqua man plus money for chiellini he can play left back and centre back i think hes the type of player we need to make our defencive line solid again! seandaleer {ed's note - no thank you, we have plenty of good, young centre backs, we don't need another one blocking their way into the team.}

16 Nov 2010 21:25:54
Been on Sky Sports, and Camolli says that NESV will release the funds for a top class player if the price is right.

I don't think this will happen in January tbh. Because it's only a one-month window it means player prices will raise.

I wonder who they have in mind?

16 Nov 2010 21:21:15
I want to believe John Henry and NESV have a vision for the long-term future of the club. But the short-term future is equally important. Keeping Hodgson until the end of the season smacks of naivety and could have a massive knock-on effect that could severely impact our squad, future signings and dent the chances of any replacement manager turning things around quicker than we would like.
Hodgson has one tactic and that is don't get beat. Nick an early goal and if the opposition go on to score, that's OK because a point is a point. That tactic falls on its arse when we go behind and Hodgson has no idea how to motivate the team or change our style of play. If we keep Hodgson until the end of season we won't get relegated, but we won't win the UEFA cup or FA cup and will probably tread water just around or below mid table. Good, young players will leave (that is if they don't do in Jan) and the new manager will struggle to persuade senior players to stay. Personally, no matter how much the likes of Reina and Torres say they love the club, at the end of the day they are professional players with ambitions to win medals and cups.
Get rid of Roy now and put Kenny in charge. It's a no-brainer. Kenny's been doing a lot of scouting recently so all he has to do is sit down with Comolli to compare notes for the January signings. One last thing, the reserves played today and although the drew 1-1 against Blackpool, the reports I've read all say the likes of Pachecho, Amoo and Shelvey, etc played really well. And why is that? Because they were played in their natural positions and were probably given licence by John McMahon to go and play good football. Hodgson wasn't there to see a Liverpool side playing their natural game. Speaks volumes.

16 Nov 2010 21:19:43
"16 Nov 2010 16:37:38 Liverpool Rumours Why dint roy use the 11.5 million he used for mileres to buy turan"

Because he's Roy

RED LENIN

16 Nov 2010 21:16:11
Insua could be back in jan as new galatasery manager doesn't want any loan players in the squad, source: clickliverpool. Do you think he would be our 1st choice ed? {ed's note - depends on if he has lost weight or not. If he is back in shape he is better than Konchesky in my opinion.}

16 Nov 2010 21:15:52
Rumors on the net: Lucas Barrios (spelling) to LFC in Jan, PX for eather Babel or Jovanovic plus 12m.
Good record for Dortmund just over 1 goal in every 2 games.

16 Nov 2010 21:13:40
Danny wilson getting his full cap for scotland tonight and scoring, he also scored for the reserves last week, why is he not getting a chance in the full team right now, we got kerriacos for 1m as a back up, he has been the best defender this year, so what does that say about the rest, the sooner that man is sent on his way, the better for the future of liverpool football club tony from buckhaven in fife

16 Nov 2010 21:12:58
Always a red {ed's note - I think you have called it right, apart from giving Roy more time, but that is my personal belief. I just don't see him ever changing his way of playing the game and the way he plays it is too negative.}
cheers for feedback ed, but stranger things have happend in football then roy changing his style of play, he must know its not working (watching his tactics make me so angry its unreal lol). but if its true about pacheco wanting to go then the sooner roy is gone the better. if dani goes he will be the fist of many youngster wanting to go. . . . .
Guys get real NESV are surely not that stupid?? They did pay a signifcant amount of money for the club and then ignore there own stated policy of buying and nurturing young talent. . . Rest assured Woy will be gone long before Pacheco (Feel you would agree here Ed that he had better be for the immediate term future of the club is at stake as long as he is left in charge) Mortk2001 {ed's note - I hope you are right mate, but if there is no replacement ready and we have had a good run of results.....}

16 Nov 2010 21:10:31
LFC1 {ed's note - he had a lot to do with Rafa's rotation policy, that is a definite. I am not sure how much input he had in tactics though.}

Ok Ed, let me refraise if i may, it seems coincidentalt that when Paco was with us Rafas subs seemed "more" inspired and once he gone, Rafa's subs seemed poor i.e. the Birmingham game last year

LFC1 {ed's note - he did have input into that, I agree, Roy is obviously operating under a handicap having Sammy Lee 'assisting' him!}


LOL Ed, i suppose with Sammy on your team there aint much hope !

LFC1 {ed's note - shame, he is a lovely bloke and was a good player, but he just is not a good coach.}


I agree Ed Sammy great player in the 80's i can remember stood in the Kop watching the little terrier, but as a coach not up to ther job and as Bolton found out certainly not managerial material.

LFC1

16 Nov 2010 21:09:05
Well it sounds like wilson is ready for the big time, lets hope that roy takes this chance.
ed do you think a banner at the game with dani pacheco's name on would, 1 make the lad feel wanted and 2 would show roy how many of the liverpool supporters feel. sometimes something as subtle as the lads name can work alot better than chanting how bad roy is or how much better king kenny would be. i know playing the young lads is just the tip of the iceberg, but its a start.

always a red {ed's note - I guess it can't do any harm for the lad to see it, but I don't think his problem is with the fans anyway so I doubt it would make much difference.}

16 Nov 2010 21:04:55
I for one would love Paco back, i think he was more than just an assistant to Benitez and a fitness coach to LFC, i think he may have had something to do with Benitez's tactics, this is why Rafa looked lost last season.

Any thoughts ED ?

LFC1 {ed's note - he had a lot to do with Rafa's rotation policy, that is a definite. I am not sure how much input he had in tactics though.}

Ok Ed, let me refraise if i may, it seems coincidentalt that when Paco was with us Rafas subs seemed "more" inspired and once he gone, Rafa's subs seemed poor i.e. the Birmingham game last year

LFC1 {ed's note - he did have input into that, I agree, Roy is obviously operating under a handicap having Sammy Lee 'assisting' him!}


LOL Ed, i suppose with Sammy on your team there aint much hope !

LFC1 {ed's note - shame, he is a lovely bloke and was a good player, but he just is not a good coach.}

16 Nov 2010 21:04:01
To who ever stated this

I've got a bad feeling that Pacheco will leave us soon
Where has he gone?

Me and you both mate, and i feel with Roy at the healm we may lose more quality players from youth and senior teams

LFC1

16 Nov 2010 21:01:29
I for one would love Paco back, i think he was more than just an assistant to Benitez and a fitness coach to LFC, i think he may have had something to do with Benitez's tactics, this is why Rafa looked lost last season.

Any thoughts ED ?

LFC1 {ed's note - he had a lot to do with Rafa's rotation policy, that is a definite. I am not sure how much input he had in tactics though.}

Ok Ed, let me refraise if i may, it seems coincidentalt that when Paco was with us Rafas subs seemed "more" inspired and once he gone, Rafa's subs seemed poor i.e. the Birmingham game last year

LFC1 {ed's note - he did have input into that, I agree, Roy is obviously operating under a handicap having Sammy Lee 'assisting' him!}

16 Nov 2010 21:01:05
I have it on good authority that roy will be still incharge until the summer and prhaps longer. He must finish top 6 however.

The Hurricane

16 Nov 2010 21:00:35
I've got a bad feeling that Pacheco will leave us soon
Where has he gone?

16 Nov 2010 20:56:36
I for one would love Paco back, i think he was more than just an assistant to Benitez and a fitness coach to LFC, i think he may have had something to do with Benitez's tactics, this is why Rafa looked lost last season.

Any thoughts ED ?

LFC1 {ed's note - he had a lot to do with Rafa's rotation policy, that is a definite. I am not sure how much input he had in tactics though.}

16 Nov 2010 20:50:18
Believe or not. I spoke to Pako Ayestaran today, can't say- more like won't say where I saw him. He told me that he is having a break from work until next summer. However intimated that he would love to go back to Anfield. He has had a offers form big clubs in prem league but not what he is looking for. Very genuine man. Good shout for our next boss! Great coach loved by players. Its been down hill since he left. Young, ambitious, loves the club, it was very apparent from what he has telling me that he would love to be there in any capacity.


Isnt he working as assistant to Emery at Valencia at the moment? Although id love to see him and Emery arrive here next summer :)

Dodge

Your answer to the Valencia question is NO !

16 Nov 2010 20:50:09
Isnt he working as assistant to Emery at Valencia at the moment? Although id love to see him and Emery arrive here next summer :)

Left Valencia in summer 2010 citing professional reasons and is currently taking a break from the game

No coincidence that our dip in form coincided with Pako leaving very popular with the players

Would be a great aquisition to the club more so than most of the players nominated on the site what do think ed? {ed's note - I agree mate, it is no good getting the best players in the world if they aren't being used correctly.}

16 Nov 2010 20:39:23
Believe or not. I spoke to Pako Ayestaran today, can't say- more like won't say where I saw him. He told me that he is having a break from work until next summer. However intimated that he would love to go back to Anfield. He has had a offers form big clubs in prem league but not what he is looking for. Very genuine man. Good shout for our next boss! Great coach loved by players. Its been down hill since he left. Young, ambitious, loves the club, it was very apparent from what he has telling me that he would love to be there in any capacity.


Isnt he working as assistant to Emery at Valencia at the moment? Although id love to see him and Emery arrive here next summer :)

Dodge

16 Nov 2010 20:38:26
"striker instead?"

Not if Roy's buying.

16 Nov 2010 20:30:17
Hi all just in from work and hear that Dani Pacheo is leaving if this happens because Woy is stuck in the past and thinks he is not big enough or for what ever reason I don't care, if he is allowed to strip our club of obvious talented young players then there should be a big banner at every match until is is sacked or jacks in letting him know that he is not wanted at our club anymore its gone beyond sticking by him he's lost the players he cannot go on I can actually say I hate the man and until he is gone I probably won't watch our games(lie) it hurts too much to watch us under his leadership.

Eric The Real Red
Y.N.W.A

16 Nov 2010 20:26:51
So Comolli says we may be in the market for a World-Class player come Jan or the Summer. . . Hmmm Let's just HOPE that we are and that he is in the same league as Stevie, Fernando and Pepe so we can push onward and upwards.
I hope this player is Aguero though i really don't know if Woy should be around to find out!

Ed (Great site by the way), if we were to sign just one world class player in todays market whom would you sign given the chance. .
Village
{Editor's note - Honda or Sanchez}

16 Nov 2010 19:53:22
Cant believe we are at it again, now someone says we are giving roy 35mil in january and we are gonna use it to buy a new stricker?? what is a stricker please help i am so confused?? ? can't we surely use it to buy a new striker instead?

16 Nov 2010 19:53:06
Question for the ED - Do you think there is any chance of us signing Adam Johnson? {ed's note - no mate, City won't sell to us.}

16 Nov 2010 19:52:14
"Thanks nemesis i know i am right! And I also know about the 19 league titles but when i tell others they say its wishful thinking. Please don't doubt me on this its not like I would have wanted to have been called Everton. ."

who cares? if you have a rumour, let's hear it. i don't care much for a title that everton won over 100 years ago.

16 Nov 2010 19:40:47
Ed - What do you feeling is behind the handling of Daniel Pacheco by Roy and his Staff? Surely when Cole is out he is a straight swap right?

Kiddox {ed's note - I would rather see him play than Cole personally, he has much more talent and more pace. I don't understand why he has been so mishandled, I know he was late for training but he is being frozen out anyway, you can't expect a young lad to be happy and behave maturely when you treat them like they are worthless. It seems to have been decided he is not good enough, probably because of old-fashioned views about his lack of size. He also doesn't fit into Roy's tactical system, he needs a system that emphasises possession, passing and movement to get the best.}

16 Nov 2010 19:34:50
That has to be EVERTONS TITLE 1890 as we were just a twinkle in the eye and when everton left the holy ground they took all the cups and soucers with them

16 Nov 2010 19:27:41
NESV are to give ROY £35M in JAN and top of the list is a new stricker to partner TORRES

LUCAS BARRIOS £12M
Roy wants to px BABEL or JOV in the deal

16 Nov 2010 19:25:12
16 Nov 2010 17:13:19
To the person who posted:

"Originally named Everton F.C. and Athletic Grounds Ltd (Everton Athletic for short), the club became Liverpool F.C. in June 1892."

"Thankyou. Read IT ORIGINALLY NAMED EVERTON FC! I knew I was right."

I think you are spot on. There is a piece of paper in the LFC museum supporting this. .ie documenting the name change form Everton F.C. and Athletic Grounds to Liverpool F.C. and Athletic Grounds. I also believe that when we were called Everton, we won the League (1890?) - so we are already on 19!
We can afford to relax this year! Because we can't be overtaken. .yet.

Nemesis

Thanks nemesis i know i am right! And I also know about the 19 league titles but when i tell others they say its wishful thinking. Please don't doubt me on this its not like I would have wanted to have been called Everton. . {ed's note - I thought it didn't count because we weren't recognised by the FA as Everton? I suppose it doesn't really matter either way, I just thought it was like getting a world record - it only counts if it is recognised as such.}

16 Nov 2010 19:21:34
Re:Pako post can not believe so many posters are hitting don't believe. What don't they believe: 1 I never spoke to him or 2 the content of my note. He was very open in hi comments about the state of our club but always used the term WE about LFC,

16 Nov 2010 18:57:11
Thanks ed re pako, think I need to be a bit more patient tho! Suds

16 Nov 2010 18:52:26
A dispute emerged between Houlding and the Everton FC committee, over how the club was to be owned and run. This dispute escalated from the full purchase of the land at Anfield from minor land owner John Orrell, into a disagreement over how the club was run. This culminated with Everton moving to Goodison Park. Houlding was left with an empty stadium, and decided to form a new club to occupy it. The team was called Liverpool F.C and Athletic Grounds Ltd, and their first match at Anfield was a friendly played in front of 200 people on 1 September 1892, against Rotherham Town, which they won 7-1.

{Editor's Note: I thought the fourth goal was offside.}

16 Nov 2010 18:24:04
Believe or not. I spoke to Pako Ayestaran today, can't say- more like won't say where I saw him. He told me that he is having a break from work until next summer. However intimated that he would love to go back to Anfield. He has had a offers form big clubs in prem league but not what he is looking for. Very genuine man. Good shout for our next boss! Great coach loved by players. Its been down hill since he left. Young, ambitious, loves the club, it was very apparent from what he has telling me that he would love to be there in any capacity.

16 Nov 2010 18:07:42
Always a red {ed's note - I think you have called it right, apart from giving Roy more time, but that is my personal belief. I just don't see him ever changing his way of playing the game and the way he plays it is too negative.}
cheers for feedback ed, but stranger things have happend in football then roy changing his style of play, he must know its not working (watching his tactics make me so angry its unreal lol). but if its true about pacheco wanting to go then the sooner roy is gone the better. if dani goes he will be the fist of many youngster wanting to be away.

always a red

16 Nov 2010 17:53:51
The FA refused to accept blues* te athletic as the clubs name so they EST LIVERPOOL FC an applied to join the football league this was rejected so LFC joined the LANC'S league and started professional life as LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB

REDMAN

PS nothing right in being called blues* te

16 Nov 2010 17:52:38
People need to remember just how much of football is politics. first of all there is no way that king kenny will be appointed as a caretaker manager, the main reason being what if while NESV are looking for there own manager and kenny starts winning matches, it would be impossible for them to remove him. the fans would just not allow it.
now as for the manager we have mr hodgson, i'll be honest i was'nt keen on his appointment, and to pay fulham compensation for him was a joke. but he is here and i am going to give him the next two matches to impress, if we win and win in the right way against west ham and spurs then roy should be given one last chance, for me respect is'nt given its earned. i think both games are winable (i mean if the defence can keep monkey boy under control when we play spurs). but if things don't go our way then NESV will have to but very careful when geting rid of roy, he would be seen as the victim (the papers would love it). plus whoever they do bring in he will have to hit the ground running or it will be seen as a disaster.
lets hope the transfer window gives us atleast 1 intresting player to talk about, would loveto see hulk in the liverpool shirt but if roy has his way i would expect carlton cole lol.

ed please tell me am wrong and NESV are upto somethink

always a red {ed's note - I think you have called it right, apart from giving Roy more time, but that is my personal belief. I just don't see him ever changing his way of playing the game and the way he plays it is too negative.}

16 Nov 2010 17:50:53
To the person who wrote:

"Did they ever play a professional game as Everton?all of LIVERPOOL'S pro life has been under the LFC."

I can only say 'Yes'. .until they changed their name to Liverpool, they were called Everton!

Nemesis

16 Nov 2010 17:43:47
Hi ed now i don't no how much of this i beleave but a mate of mine from the city has told me today roy will remain at the club untill summer unless things go real bad if they do then he will be asked to go and kenny will step in but this is wear it gets intresting he also informs me that now with commolli in place they are watching wot happens with wenger at arsnal as he is good friends with commolli and he has already spoke with jh befour he bought the club and sounded him out about any intrest in becoming liverpool manager. i personaly think this would be fantastic as arsnal do play great football and we all no wenger has about had a gutfull there so i say come join are reverlotion mr wenger! ! ! wots your thoughts ed? my mate was the first to say gerrard would be staying when we all thought he was of to chelsea and was the first to say masch would go to barca a year ago and said it would be this summer and he also said johnson will go this summer to madrid and looks like he is rite again johnson been having spanish lessons for 3 months now and has now not getting selected and also now fall out with mananger i think my mate could be spot on again {ed's note - I can't see it happening, nice thought though.}

16 Nov 2010 17:32:52
Dani Pacheco probably doesn't want to leave liverpool : the report that this rumour is from is written by a reporter fit to right for the s*n (basically he's a retarded scumbag).
He infact probably wants to stay with NESV's promise of developing young talent.

However its likely he wants a different manager with him seemingly being out of favour with RH (the man who prefers POULSEN! ! !).

16 Nov 2010 17:30:50
Just wondering who everyone wants to be manager of the club if Hodgson leaves? Ed who would your choice be?

Personally, I would go for Andre Villas Boas. He's a young and vibrant manager and he learned his trade from Mourinho, so you would imagine his teams are solid, hard to beat, well organised and good at going forward (as Porto are under Boas). Ok, maybe it wouldn't work out, but give him a chance! He's possibly the best option available.

Who would everyone else choose? Ed who would be your first choice? {ed's note - I don't know mate, Boas would be good, Di Matteo, O'Driscoll or Laudrup are other options I would consider if I was picking.}

16 Nov 2010 17:29:00
Did they ever play a professional game as Everton?all of LIVERPOOL'S pro life has been under the LFC

16 Nov 2010 17:13:19
To the person who posted:

"Originally named Everton F.C. and Athletic Grounds Ltd (Everton Athletic for short), the club became Liverpool F.C. in June 1892."

"Thankyou. Read IT ORIGINALLY NAMED EVERTON FC! I knew I was right."

I think you are spot on. There is a piece of paper in the LFC museum supporting this. .ie documenting the name change form Everton F.C. and Athletic Grounds to Liverpool F.C. and Athletic Grounds. I also believe that when we were called Everton, we won the League (1890?) - so we are already on 19!
We can afford to relax this year! Because we can't be overtaken. .yet.

Nemesis

16 Nov 2010 17:07:43
Roy Hodgson needs to be givin time Raul Meralas has been here as long and hasnt scored a goal. Do we get rid of him, Joe Cole same as, , do we get rid of him. People need to give the man a chance. John Henry is saying alot of the right things at the moment but ive heard it all before. Alot of talk of Aaron Lennon joining id rather have SWP cheaper and just as bad. Liverpool need to be sniffing around the likes of Adam Johnson (Swap with his namesake Glenn), to go forward we need to stop calling for average players to be signed. Im happy with the appointment of Camolli( spelling?) as i don't trust Roy with a bunch of cash but we need to spend wisely and not stupidly like we have done for a couple of years now.

Id be happy to look at our lineup with the addition of a striker and two wingers in the January window and then a couple of additions in the Summer window.

P.S Liverpool F.C. was founded following a dispute between the Everton F.C. Committee and John Houlding, club president and owner of the land at Anfield. After eight years at the stadium, Everton relocated to Goodison Park in 1892 and Houlding founded Liverpool F.C. to play at Anfield.[4][5] Originally named Everton F.C. and Athletic Grounds Ltd (Everton Athletic for short), the club became Liverpool F.C. in June 1892 after The Football Association refused to recognise the club as Everton.

So for a very short period we were EAFC.

Quigz23

16 Nov 2010 17:07:23
The fact that the football association refused to recognise the club as everton
LIVERPOOL EST 1892 same year we kicked the blues* te out

16 Nov 2010 17:02:51
Re: If as people are suggesting the owners have 'wrote off this season' then surely now would be the time to bring in a new manager as there'd be no pressure on him and it would give him time to assess the current squad and try some of the youngster's ahead of the summer, any thoughts ?

I completely agree Paul. True we might not be able to get one of the bigger managers in Europe but we could find a lesser known one or one that's out of a job. I think that is what NESV are trying to do now but they have to sort out their CEO first.
Then if the CEO is unwilling to take a risk on a no-name manager. At least put KK in until the summer. He would at least play the youth. I want to see this XI for the rest of the season.
Gk-Reina
Rb-Johnson
Cb-Kelly
Cb-Wilson (Agger when fit again)
Lb-mavinga
Cm-gerrard
Cm-meirele
Rw-Kuyt
Lw-jovanovic
Ss-Pacheco/ suso
St-Torres
Anfield rapstar

16 Nov 2010 17:01:30
Editor, is there any chance of Aquilani coming back after his loan? {ed's note - well there is a chance, but I very much doubt it will happen.}

Would you want him back? {ed's note - I don't know mate, he has plenty of talent but he is very injury prone.}

16 Nov 2010 16:59:40
Just a thought but David Dein is currently heading up England's bid for 2018 World Cup and that has 14 days or so till its conclusion one way or the other. He is a free agent and regarded as one of the best in the business, largely responsible for bringing in Wenger and the Arsenal business model.

David Dein knows his football and how it should be played and what is right for the club. I have a feeling that there maybe some consideration in hiring David Dein after the World Cup vote is dealt with and that it could then be a case of him advising on not having Roy. This would make the owners look better stating they took advice from a proper football man and also gives weight to a Frank Rijkaard (sorry if spelling is wrong) type manager who has a similar philosophy as Wenger. He is also a manager who was linked with Arsenal when Wenger's future was in doubt.

Could be putting two and two together and getting 22 who knows?

16 Nov 2010 16:57:53
16 Nov 2010 16:31:59
Or did I get it wrong?

"Originally named Everton F.C. and Athletic Grounds Ltd (Everton Athletic for short), the club became Liverpool F.C. in June 1892."

Thankyou. Read IT ORIGINALLY NAMED EVERTON FC! I knew I was right. .

no. .no. .no the stadium has been home to Liverpool F.C. since they were formed in 1892 as a result of the original tenants Everton F.C. leaving the ground.

16 Nov 2010 16:53:53
Ed do u think we have a chance and will sign adam johnson come jan. Thanks {ed's note - no and no.}

16 Nov 2010 16:52:32
Ed how about Javier Pastore. 6'2", 7 in 12 this season. {ed's note - a lot of people have been pushing him forward lately, looks the part that is for sure.}

16 Nov 2010 16:51:18
Ed, you said that you information about Roy going was from 2 senior players. Now you're saying that part of your post was your own personal preference (. . wishful thinking. . ). Anybody can say Roy will be gone when a replacement has been found and will be infinitely correct due to the club never sacking managers (even if Roy is sacked it's only logical to know what you're doing next).
Do you really have any contacts/ interest in liverpool?
I personally think you're a fake. . Maybe one of them blue's that have more interest in hating us than they do loving Everton.
Hope I'm wrong tho.
EPortRed {ed's note - my info was from the players saying that they had been informed, in their meetings with the new owners, that they had been told that a replacement for Roy was being sought. It was my wishful thinking that the replacement being sought meant a quick change, though the players seemed to expect the change to be done quickly. I am certainly not a blue mate, born and bred a red. Plenty of other people on here are confirming what I have been saying, and it is on public record that Pellegrini has admitted being turned down for the job of replacing Roy. I, personally, think that the new owners would be better off removing Roy now and then finding the replacement rather than finding the replacement and then removing him. The player unrest and dissatisfaction could tear the club apart if they don't act soon.}

16 Nov 2010 16:43:39
Hi Ed, Just wanted to get your thoughts on an earlier post. It was regarding bringing back Paco Aysteryan as Head Coach to replace Hodgson especially as we have Commoli in charge of player recruitment as i can't see any of the big name managers being happy with someone like Commoli looking over their shoulders. Paco clearly had the respect of the players when he was at the club and could be the man that would suit the structure the owners are after. Also can you put this on the rumours board as I'd like to see what the guys on there think? {ed's note - I liked Paco and I know the players loved him too, I think it is a good shout that mate.}

16 Nov 2010 16:39:17
16 Nov 2010 15:45:11
In reply to:
Ed what happened to your source saying roy would be sacked, that was weeks back lets just face it no one has a clue whats happen my feeling is roy is there for longer than people think unless its a really bad results and action needs to be taken not a long term manager just there to steady the ship big changes this summer YNWA {ed's note - I said that Roy would be sacked when a replacement was found, I got carried away thinking it would be done quickly but that was just my wishful thinking. As I keep pointing out there is evidence around that backs up what I was told, Pellegrini has said that he was turned down for the role. There would be no reason for him to make that up, it is hardly going to be good for his career to say he got turned down. I still believe that when a replacement is found Roy will be removed, but I don't believe NESV/ Fenway Sports are in any rush, unfortunately. It seems that none of the people they have identified as being capable of taking the club forward in the long term are available right now. I don't think it is a matter of compensation to the clubs they are employed by, but a reluctance on their part to leave during the season.}
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SO I THINK WE MUST TRUST JOHN HENRY ET AL AND BE MORE POSITIVE TOWARDS HODGSON IN THE SHORT TERM AND GET BEHIND THE TEAM KNOWING THINGS ARE HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES THAT WE PROBABLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
i agree in the short term, we should trust our new owners, they are with us for the long haul , and if the results keep going t* s up, they will oust hodgson, especially if we hit the relegation zone again! but the game plan is to keep him until a new ceo is appointed, and the right coach/ manager is identified, they want us to be winners and will not settle for just anybody, especially if that person turns out to be no better than hodgson, why rush in and end up back to square one. rome wasn't built in a day; we just need to be patient!
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In the short term yes. But it is very difficult to be positive when the manager is very negative, looks 'shellshocked' pre and post match, daily reports of unrest, weekly reports of players wanting out, palayers looking disinterested and our best player visually and verbally rebuking the coaching staff during recent matches.

16 Nov 2010 16:32:26
Evening ed, everyone.just read pacheco wants out now, thought Roy was bought in to steady the ship , not fockin sink it. Psvelnino

16 Nov 2010 16:31:59
Or did I get it wrong?

"Originally named Everton F.C. and Athletic Grounds Ltd (Everton Athletic for short), the club became Liverpool F.C. in June 1892."

Thankyou. Read IT ORIGINALLY NAMED EVERTON FC! I knew I was right. .

16 Nov 2010 16:11:11
WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT CALLED EVERTON MY ASS!
WE MIGHT OF WORN BLUE BUT THANKS TO SHANKS AND HIS GAINT REDMEN ALL RED FOREVER

16 Nov 2010 16:09:39
Think back redmen!
in the past how many of us said:
a/ we are LFC and don't want to be like chelsea or man city, quick money fix, etc.

b/ we are LFC, we love the idea that NESV are going to rebuild us over the long term, and give us a virtually debt free, financially viable future.

16 Nov 2010 16:03:29
If as people are suggesting the owners have 'wrote off this season' then surely now would be the time to bring in a new manager as there'd be no pressure on him and it would give him time to assess the current squad and try some of the youngster's ahead of the summer, any thoughts ?

Paul

16 Nov 2010 15:45:11
In reply to:
Ed what happened to your source saying roy would be sacked, that was weeks back lets just face it no one has a clue whats happen my feeling is roy is there for longer than people think unless its a really bad results and action needs to be taken not a long term manager just there to steady the ship big changes this summer YNWA {ed's note - I said that Roy would be sacked when a replacement was found, I got carried away thinking it would be done quickly but that was just my wishful thinking. As I keep pointing out there is evidence around that backs up what I was told, Pellegrini has said that he was turned down for the role. There would be no reason for him to make that up, it is hardly going to be good for his career to say he got turned down. I still believe that when a replacement is found Roy will be removed, but I don't believe NESV/ Fenway Sports are in any rush, unfortunately. It seems that none of the people they have identified as being capable of taking the club forward in the long term are available right now. I don't think it is a matter of compensation to the clubs they are employed by, but a reluctance on their part to leave during the season.}
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SO I THINK WE MUST TRUST JOHN HENRY ET AL AND BE MORE POSITIVE TOWARDS HODGSON IN THE SHORT TERM AND GET BEHIND THE TEAM KNOWING THINGS ARE HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES THAT WE PROBABLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
i agree in the short term, we should trust our new owners, they are with us for the long haul , and if the results keep going t* s up, they will oust hodgson, especially if we hit the relegation zone again! but the game plan is to keep him until a new ceo is appointed, and the right coach/ manager is identified, they want us to be winners and will not settle for just anybody, especially if that person turns out to be no better than hodgson, why rush in and end up back to square one. rome wasn't built in a day; we just need to be patient!

16 Nov 2010 15:38:11
Aurelio back to full fitness with a man of the match performance, what are the chancers Roy will play him on the wing and not drop his love child Konchesky

16 Nov 2010 15:17:02
ROYSTARGETS ARE DANN JARVIS EDWARDS SWP C COLE THE MAN HAS GONE MAD

NO A JOHNSON AS HE WILL COST TO MUCH AND END UP AT A LONDON CLUB

MIDTABLE FOR A LONG TIME GET USE TO IT

16 Nov 2010 15:15:53
Hi ed, we all know we need a bit of pace on the wings, what do you think about robert pires signing on a free. I know he's not the quickest in the world but he's got to be quicker then maxi, kuyt or merieles ?

Ps cause you know roy won't play any of the youngsters !

Kingplfc {ed's note - he has signed for Villa.}

16 Nov 2010 15:14:37
I can't see Fanni coming he likes to attack and get into the oponents box.No way Roy will want a full back doing that.

16 Nov 2010 15:13:30
Believable - Dani Pacheco will leave liverpool and throughout (what will become) his amazing career will be a spanish driving force for club and country and haunt liverpool (and england- or any international team he's up against) throughout the prime of his career which is yet to come! . Typical

16 Nov 2010 15:08:44
As much as I don't believe Woy is the man to take us forward, he did take the job at a time when no-one knew what would happen with the ownership. It must have been a brave decision for him to make, knowing that he could've been given the boot by any new owner once the club was sold. There wasn't really anyone else around at the time who could've accepted such instability. The players are not exactly helping much are they? Everyone just calm down, we're not going to make amazing signings in January, even if we were in the top 4, the players are just not really available orare unwilling to move. And can we please stop mentioning players names to sign just because they can sell us a few more key rings in Asia or elsewhere. Some people have truly lost perspective of what it is to be a footy fan.

Red Square

16 Nov 2010 15:06:26
16 Nov 2010 14:58:54
Ed, any info regarding Rod Fanni of Rennes, haven't seen to much of him admittedly, but he's 29 years old, I'm not one of these people who believe "NESV won't sign anyone over 27 malark" but 29 is pretty old for a fullback, unless of course it's cafu in disguise! Does fanni have a suspicious looking moustache and stink of samba dancing? {ed's note - he has been looked at by big clubs for years, yet he is playing in French football for Rennes, I think that sums him up. He is a decent player but not outstanding and certainly not worth our while moving for him, he would be little more than a stop gap signing in my opinion. Reminds me of the kind of signings Rafa was fond of - squad players.}
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OR HOULLIER SIGNING FERRI, MEIRER AND CAMARA ?

16 Nov 2010 15:04:29
16 Nov 2010 14:53:41
Ed what happened to your source saying roy would be sacked, that was weeks back lets just face it no one has a clue whats happen my feeling is roy is there for longer than people think unless its a really bad results and action needs to be taken not a long term manager just there to steady the ship big changes this summer YNWA {ed's note - I said that Roy would be sacked when a replacement was found, I got carried away thinking it would be done quickly but that was just my wishful thinking. As I keep pointing out there is evidence around that backs up what I was told, Pellegrini has said that he was turned down for the role. There would be no reason for him to make that up, it is hardly going to be good for his career to say he got turned down. I still believe that when a replacement is found Roy will be removed, but I don't believe NESV/ Fenway Sports are in any rush, unfortunately. It seems that none of the people they have identified as being capable of taking the club forward in the long term are available right now. I don't think it is a matter of compensation to the clubs they are employed by, but a reluctance on their part to leave during the season.}
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SO I THINK WE MUST TRUST JOHN HENRY ET AL AND BE MORE POSITIVE TOWARDS HODGSON IN THE SHORT TERM AND GET BEHIND THE TEAM KNOWING THINGS ARE HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES THAT WE PROBABLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

16 Nov 2010 15:00:28
16 Nov 2010 14:47:02
16 Nov 2010 14:40:58
16 Nov 2010 13:35:28
Dani Pacheco wishes to leave Liverpool.


Source: guillem balague's Twitter.


Do not believe anything this spanish tw@t reports. .

he is spains equivalent of a scum reporter. .

he hates liverpool.

king kenny07 {ed's note - he doesn't hate Liverpool, he has always seen Liverpool as his second team, like many Spanish. He is just a very close friend of Rafa and will happily spin things to support Rafa.}
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THAT'S THE POINT THOUGH WITH BALAGUE WHO IS RAFA'S CHIEF PROPAGANDIST. WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT LIVERPOOL IS WHAT RAFA CAN'T SAY. SO EVERYTHING RAFA IS GOOD AND EVERYTHING POST RAFA AT LIVERPOOL IS BAD. {ed's note - I think you are oversimplifying things, the question is whether he is just lying to make Liverpool look bad or if he is just happy to report something that does? The truth is that Pacheco isn't happy, he does want out, so accusing Balague of lying is unfair. The lad wants to play first team football not reserve team football.}
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I HAVE ENJOYED BALAGUE'S BOOKS AND HIS WORK ON RADIO AND TV IN THE PAST BUT OVER THE LAST YEAR HE DOES SEEM TO ME TO HAVE BECOME QUITE NASTY ABOUT LIVERPOOL FC ALWAYS HAPPY TO 'STIR IT UP' (NOT LYING THOUGH).
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PACHECO GIVEN A CHANCE WHICH HE HASN'T YET HAD, ALSO GIVE SUSO, AMOO AND NGOO PLACES ON THE BENCH.

16 Nov 2010 14:58:54
Ed, any info regarding Rod Fanni of Rennes, haven't seen to much of him admittedly, but he's 29 years old, I'm not one of these people who believe "NESV won't sign anyone over 27 malark" but 29 is pretty old for a fullback, unless of course it's cafu in disguise! Does fanni have a suspicious looking moustache and stink of samba dancing? {ed's note - he has been looked at by big clubs for years, yet he is playing in French football for Rennes, I think that sums him up. He is a decent player but not outstanding and certainly not worth our while moving for him, he would be little more than a stop gap signing in my opinion. Reminds me of the kind of signings Rafa was fond of - squad players.}

16 Nov 2010 14:55:03
"16 Nov 2010 14:40:27
"after celtic fans using OUR song to insult OUR troops i would never consider wearing green for a liverpool game why not support man utd?

Surely it's the persons choice to support war or not?personally I thought it was a disgrace that the Celtic fans who were Anti-Poppy that day were punished!

Whatever happened to freedom of speech and right to an opinion?"

That right has not gone away, but if an incident regarding it happens inside the ground then the club have the right to ban anyone they see fit.

I was more appalled at the fact someone had clearly spent hours on a banner and couldn't even spell, just about sums up the whole sectarian mindset. By the way, the poppy is not in support of war but remembrance - you can hate war but still be respectful.

16 Nov 2010 14:54:44
If there is a chance of getting Adam Johnson then, in my opinion, all other candidates are off the wish list.

JH/ TW should get that cheque book out and buy the lad and I don't care if they have to write big numbers on it. .show some intent! !

Frenchy.

16 Nov 2010 14:53:41
Ed what happened to your source saying roy would be sacked, that was weeks back lets just face it no one has a clue whats happen my feeling is roy is there for longer than people think unless its a really bad results and action needs to be taken not a long term manager just there to steady the ship big changes this summer YNWA {ed's note - I said that Roy would be sacked when a replacement was found, I got carried away thinking it would be done quickly but that was just my wishful thinking. As I keep pointing out there is evidence around that backs up what I was told, Pellegrini has said that he was turned down for the role. There would be no reason for him to make that up, it is hardly going to be good for his career to say he got turned down. I still believe that when a replacement is found Roy will be removed, but I don't believe NESV/Fenway Sports are in any rush, unfortunately. It seems that none of the people they have identified as being capable of taking the club forward in the long term are available right now. I don't think it is a matter of compensation to the clubs they are employed by, but a reluctance on their part to leave during the season.}

16 Nov 2010 14:48:46
ANY MANAGER IS EXPENDABLE ED WE SHOULD HAVE GOT SOMEONE WITH A BETTER RECORD THAN WOY
THESHANKLEYWAY {ed's note - yes but it was difficult to find anyone interested at that time with a better record who wouldn't have made the takeover more difficult. To me the mistake is to persevere with a manager who is clearly not up to the task.}

16 Nov 2010 14:47:02
16 Nov 2010 14:40:58
16 Nov 2010 13:35:28
Dani Pacheco wishes to leave Liverpool.


Source: guillem balague's Twitter.


Do not believe anything this spanish tw@t reports. .

he is spains equivalent of a scum reporter. .

he hates liverpool.

king kenny07 {ed's note - he doesn't hate Liverpool, he has always seen Liverpool as his second team, like many Spanish. He is just a very close friend of Rafa and will happily spin things to support Rafa.}
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THAT'S THE POINT THOUGH WITH BALAGUE WHO IS RAFA'S CHIEF PROPAGANDIST. WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT LIVERPOOL IS WHAT RAFA CAN'T SAY. SO EVERYTHING RAFA IS GOOD AND EVERYTHING POST RAFA AT LIVERPOOL IS BAD. {ed's note - I think you are oversimplifying things, the question is whether he is just lying to make Liverpool look bad or if he is just happy to report something that does? The truth is that Pacheco isn't happy, he does want out, so accusing Balague of lying is unfair. The lad wants to play first team football not reserve team football.}

16 Nov 2010 14:44:56
Editor, is there any chance of Aquilani coming back after his loan? {ed's note - well there is a chance, but I very much doubt it will happen.}

16 Nov 2010 14:44:00
What experts said we were finished when Keegan left for Hamburg.Dalglish signed for champions of europe.We were never a One man team, in those days.
KEEGAN
the poster is correct i can remember very well when keegan left, everyone was down, and it was stated that it was the end of an era, we were all gutted, then paisley bought THE REAL KING for 40 grand less than we sold keegan for, most of us knew little or nothing about kenny but it didn't take long to see how good he was, you are right in saying we were never a one man team but KEEGAN was a total SUPERSTAR he made pop records people copied his hair he was charismatic it was all keegan i remember his black eye after the man u final days before 1977 rome final the rumours how he got it was all about him wanting to leave LFC and someone belting him for not trying against the mancs mad but true, bob paisleys skids

16 Nov 2010 14:40:58
16 Nov 2010 13:35:28
Dani Pacheco wishes to leave Liverpool.


Source: guillem balague's Twitter.


Do not believe anything this spanish tw@t reports. .

he is spains equivalent of a scum reporter. .

he hates liverpool.

king kenny07 {ed's note - he doesn't hate Liverpool, he has always seen Liverpool as his second team, like many Spanish. He is just a very close friend of Rafa and will happily spin things to support Rafa.}

16 Nov 2010 14:40:27
"after celtic fans using OUR song to insult OUR troops i would never consider wearing green for a liverpool game why not support man utd?

Surely it's the persons choice to support war or not?personally I thought it was a disgrace that the Celtic fans who were Anti-Poppy that day were punished!

Whatever happened to freedom of speech and right to an opinion?

16 Nov 2010 14:39:58
What experts said we were finished when Keegan left for Hamburg.Dalglish signed for champions of europe.We were never a One man team, in those days.
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THE MEDIA AND PRESS IN 1977 WAS JUST AS BAD AND ANTI LIVERPOOL AS IT IS NOW. UTD FLUKILY BEAT US IN THE FA CUP FINAL AND THIS WAS SEEN BY THEM AND TOMMY DOCHERTY AS THE MOMENT WHERE THEY TOOK OVER FROM LIVERPOOL. HOW WRONG THEY WERE BECAUSE IN 77/ 78 DOCHERTY WAS SACKED, THE CHAMPIONSHIP AND LEAGUE CUP WERE WON BY FOREST, IPSWICH WON THE FA CUP AND LIVERPOOL RETAINED THE EUROPEAN CUP.

16 Nov 2010 14:39:53
So what you saying ed is that we had to take woy for the take over to go through, but now where stuck with him we defo could have got someone with a better cv than him.
THESHANKLEYWAY {ed's note - well he can easily be removed at any time, that was the whole point, he is expendable.}

16 Nov 2010 14:34:25
Ed ,
Why on earth isn't Roy resigning. If i was him i would of. he has totally lost the fans and the players now. He said judge him after 10 games its been more than that now, and hes even got worse. Once you lose the fans and plauers faith u should leave. If chelsea were in our position they would of sacked there manager by now. Oh wait they did with mourinho and scolari.
Roy has lost the fans and the players and its about time the owners took a god damn look at him, and lose their faith as well!
We have got worse under roy compared to rafa, IF THAT WAS EVEN POSSIBLE. At least we would of improved under rafa this year. Cause he knew where our weaknesses were, and would of strengthened them. Its about time the owners understand that and take action.

Harry5:) {ed's note - have you not read the comments he made about why Jack Walker was forced to sack him while he was bottom of the league with Blackburn Rovers (who were, I believe, the most expensively assembled English side of all time then)? 'As Hodgson later explained, Blackburn's owner gave him the chance to resign honourably, but he refused to do so, leaving the club with no option but to sack him: "To Blackburn's honour, Jack Walker wanted me to resign, he wanted to still pay for the rest of my contract. He said, 'Why don't you resign? You've had enough, it's not working out.' I refused to do that, arrogant of course as I was in those days. I thought if they stuck with me I'd save them from relegation. I do think that the players were very much still with me, so I couldn't resign because that would be a suggestion that in some way I was doing something or something was happening which I didn't see to be the case or the truth. I gave him no choice but to sack me".' That is taken from here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/mar/11/roy-hodgson-fulham-blackburn-rovers.}

16 Nov 2010 14:30:27
If i was looking to employ a football manager for the most succesfull team in the country, his cv would have to boast more than 13 away wins in 5 +1/ 2 years so what the f* *k was purslow up to when he looked at woys cv.You need to win 13 in 1 year to have a chance to be champions not take 5 seasons to get them.
THESHANKLEYWAY {ed's note - it had to be someone who was expendable when a takeover is close, it could have stopped any takeover from happening if the manager had been unassailable. No one would have wanted to take over with Kenny in charge for instance, they would have been forced to support Kenny with spending or face the prospect of being blamed if the club didn't win everything.}

16 Nov 2010 14:09:24
What experts said we were finished when Keegan left for Hamburg.Dalglish signed for champions of europe.We were never a One man team, in those days.

16 Nov 2010 14:09:08
Iverpool Rumours
Not trying to be pessimistic but this is my worst case scenario

OUT
Torres 35m Man s* tty
Pacheco 2m Barca
Reina 20m Man U
Gerrard 18m Real Madrid(Mourinho loves him)
Glen Johnson 15m Juve(Good Riddance)
Daniel Agger 15m Inter
Martin Skrtel Wherever 7m
Lucas 8m Inter
Jovanovic Wherever 7m
Babel Birmingham 9m
Kuyt 10m Inter

IN
Mark Schwazer 4m Fulham
Brede Hangeland 9m Fulham
C.Cole 11m West Ham
Clint Dempsey 10m Fulham
Zoltan Gera 12m Fulham

Schwazer
Carra Greek Hangeland Konch
Gera Meireles Poulsen J.Cole
Dempsey C.Cole

Sad Days Ahea
IF THIS IS THE CASE AND WE BO BUY THESE PLAYERS WHY DONT WE JUST CHANGE THE NAME OF THE TEAM TO FULHAM

16 Nov 2010 14:09:00
If reports of adam johnson are completely true and not clever editing, he would be a fantastic buy (I know fairly obvious), but surely he fits into NESV's 'model' of young, good and British? just thinking out loud . .

16 Nov 2010 14:04:11
My problem with Liverpool FC is our inability to procuce specialty players who can complement a squad. I do understand that a pure goal scorer is a rarety and therefore has to be purchased. But, a guy who runs up and down a wing, crosses a decent ball in and can go past a defender with pace and track back from time to time has to be a player YOU brought up. Why is it that except for Carragher and Gerrard not one academy player has made it into the first team in 10 years or so? Look at Barcelona, Ajax or Auxerre as examples of how to do it. Guys like Warnock, Guthrie and Hammil should be in the squad right now and I'm not even an Englishman. Top prem teams (Liverpool especially) are ran by idiots who'd rather buy players than develop them. It's not just Roy who's clueless, the whole system is rigged backwards. NESV WILL try to rectify this. So, perhaps being owned by a non-British group is a blessing in disguise. What do you think Mr. Ed? {ed's note - I hope you are right mate, I would much prefer to see a player come through from the Academy than bought in from somewhere else.}

16 Nov 2010 14:00:18
WEAR GREEN
after celtic fans using OUR song to insult OUR troops i would never consider wearing green for a liverpool game why not support man utd? we do things our way and don't intentionally copy any one, i read once about the minutes clapping/ applause , its because the animals can't be quiet for 60 seconds, the scousers will give a minutes silence for next doors cat, its called RESPECT, i can't stand roy but the wearing of green at anfield would cause trouble i can guarantee it, bob paisleys skids

16 Nov 2010 13:57:56
One simple question to any one willing to answer!
why would a well established, multi billion dollar, american sports giant such as NESV, a company with a high reputation for their winning mentality, put everything on the line and bail out liverpool football club from almost certain relegation, just to sit back, and witness roy hodgson turn us into a championship laughing stock?.

16 Nov 2010 13:56:16
Liverpool kop website i meant ed {ed's note - ah right, well I did point towards what I think. I just think he is saying what he thinks will get people onto the site. I mean last year he was telling us how Rafa was an awful manager and how poor his record is, now he is saying Roy isn't so bad because his record over his first 13 games is very similar to Rafa's! So he is saying that we should support Roy because his record is similar to a rubbish manager, made me scratch my head that one. Even worse is when you look and see he is including European football, despite Rafa's team having to compete in the Champions League while Roy's is in the much easier Europa League. He just doesn't seem to have any real conviction in what he is saying and just trying to be controversial to provoke people into visiting his site.}

16 Nov 2010 13:52:47
Quote JWH
"We saw a certain team on the field against Chelsea last week that showed what they can do. We also know how competitive the EPL is this year. There are no guaranteed matches any longer for any club. This club can be better. Blaming the manager or any one particular player is simply wrong. This club needs to play up to their potential every match. If they don't, they won't win"

Sounds like a man who knows what he wants

"I've met with a number of our players and had private discussions with some of them. I've been greatly impressed by them personally. They are all exceptionally bright and they all want to be here. The question they have had, rightfully so, is whether or not the club is going to go in the right direction. They all want to see that. I have been very forthright about our philosophy and about what we are going to try to achieve. Some would prefer a quick fix. Others prefer to focus on the long-term and that is very difficult for most players. But, as I wrote previously, this club needs everyone on the same page every day. Every day. We need everyone focused on what needs to be done in the next match facing us and during that match. The club should not have to settle for less. As one insightful player told me, "The spirit of the side needs to be there like a family - as one."
comment ed {ed's note - I am worried for any man that could think that footballers are 'exceptionally bright', I find that disturbing! But the rest of what he says is just media babble to me, he has actually said nothing of any meaning whatsoever.}

16 Nov 2010 13:50:01
Ed what do you think is going to happen over this season with liverpool with roy with the january window? {ed's note - I don't think much will happen at all mate, NESV or Fenway Sports as they are now, will want to keep their powder dry for the summer.}

i agree i think everything will build up for the summer my hope is with so many teams beating each other that roys "tactics" will somehow make us get the 4 spot (hoping).

do you read kop talk website ed if so what do you think of it? {ed's note - I don't any more mate, Dunc is just interested in raising as much money off people as possible and will make up stories just to get people to subscribe (I think Jamie Kanwar at liverpool-kop is doing a very similar thing, though will a lot more intelligence, in that he is not making up things but posting a blatantly contrary view to get people to visit his site). That is why I am not pushing the subscription part of this site, when it becomes your main living there is going to be a huge temptation to make things up to get more money or when things are quiet to make things up so you can afford to eat! Unfortunately I think Dunc sees the site purely as a way to make money and does not have any real interest in Liverpool itself.}

16 Nov 2010 13:44:55
Why did roy buy meriles?

he is a box-box central midfielder which roy plays on the right why?

ed do you know why? {ed's note - because he had no clear idea of what the club needed, sad to say that such an experienced coach could be so clueless, but it is the only possible conclusion. He had been at the club for a while but obviously didn't see the glaring need for a winger and he obviously still doesn't as he is talking about buying defenders in January!}

16 Nov 2010 13:42:27
So now its pacheo is going to leave why is there so many players that want to leave now i know there is a lot of stuff that is made up in the gutter press but some times there is some truth in it

i just hope that nesv sort things out quickly but with what i am reading the summer is the time when alot of things will happen.

i just hope that with the league being so tight that we can manage to push ourselves up to 4 place by the end of the season

it does worry me there is so many reports of players wanting to leave

ed what do you think is going to happen over this season with liverpool with roy with the january window? {ed's note - I don't think much will happen at all mate, NESV or Fenway Sports as they are now, will want to keep their powder dry for the summer.}

16 Nov 2010 13:42:27
JWH did put out a statement on red aND WHITE KOP FAN YESTERDAY reitterating his support of woy and again stating that the state of the club was not down to him ( shuts the door on a rafa return)

Also said no big changes till the summer so bring on the kids

16 Nov 2010 13:35:28
Dani Pacheco wishes to leave Liverpool.


Source: guillem balague's Twitter.

16 Nov 2010 13:29:16
This is from sky sports news ( not a made up source)

"Liverpool co-owner John W Henry has insisted that he is fully behind manager Roy Hodgson"

"This club can be better and blaming the manager or any one particular player is simply wrong, " Henry said.

"This club needs to play up to their potential every match. If they don't, they won't win."


So i think we can stop thinking about a replacement manager for a while and unfortunatly were gonna have to wait it out.

Also he said:

Co-owner Henry also dropped a hint that the club will not be looking to invest heavily in the squad when the transfer market reopens in January.

"We have work to do and must invest in this club to improve it on the field. Can that be successfully done in January?" continued Henry.

"A number of people I've talked with doubt it. Most seem to think it will be the summer before we can really begin to improve"

I think you were right ed , it doesn't look like were gonna splash the cash in jan but then again i didn't expect us to. but surely we will get at least 3 players , hopefully attacking ones. but they might be in the £5m - £10m bracket , instead of £15m + .

16 Nov 2010 13:22:38
In reply to:
Adam Johnson - £15m
Aaron Lennon - £5m plus Ryan Babel
Shaun Wright-Phillips - Loan until the Summer
Roque Santa Cruz - Loan until the Summer
Robbie Keane - Loan until the Summer


Are you mental? Apart from Johnson you have not named a single person who is actually worth their value, or even going to improve the club. SWP is over valued and over paid, for a winger with no end product. Keane doesn't do it at Liverpool that is proven. Santa Cruz is overpriced for his ability. Lennon again has noe end product and hates Liverpool as a club and City.

Adam Johnson
Andy Carroll
Micah Richards

Would be better options, all English, All available and all hot prospects.

16 Nov 2010 13:18:55
At the moment hodgson is seen as the perfect "sitting duck", NESV are looking to keep him as manager for the time being, especially while they look to appoint a new ceo. they do not want to rock the boat, and make any harsh decisions on management , rushing in and appointing the wrong man for the job, they will take their time and find the perfect person to take the club to another level, and they probably have a contingency plan in case we suffer several defeats and end up back in the relegation zone. for instance, surely they would not tolerate 3 or maybe 4 more losses, and would have to sack hodgson before schedule, as a season in the championship would prove far too costly, in financial, and image terms, also the damage it would cause the team, would be unimaginable.
so yes hodgson will go, probably not untill the summer, depending on results, then if hodgson is sacked the interim replacement until summer will be, sammy , kenny or maybe comolli, if his coaching licence allows it.

16 Nov 2010 13:17:09
Not trying to be pessimistic but this is my worst case scenario

OUT
Torres 35m Man s* tty
Pacheco 2m Barca
Reina 20m Man U
Gerrard 18m Real Madrid(Mourinho loves him)
Glen Johnson 15m Juve(Good Riddance)
Daniel Agger 15m Inter
Martin Skrtel Wherever 7m
Lucas 8m Inter
Jovanovic Wherever 7m
Babel Birmingham 9m
Kuyt 10m Inter

IN
Mark Schwazer 4m Fulham
Brede Hangeland 9m Fulham
C.Cole 11m West Ham
Clint Dempsey 10m Fulham
Zoltan Gera 12m Fulham

Schwazer
Carra Greek Hangeland Konch
Gera Meireles Poulsen J.Cole
Dempsey C.Cole

Sad Days Ahead

16 Nov 2010 13:11:32
Lot going on in the press today, (look at triblefootball) Henry and Comolli have been busy. Comolli, has now stated there will be no quick fix unless that fix fits in with future plan. Plan for the future will be around building a team and not buying one. They want to know what liverpool FC stands for and ensure that the policies, player, and type of football reflects that and that everyone at LFC stands together in all aspects of the club. Kenny has been contributing to this advising Comolli of what makes LFC the club it is.

So, we may not get a quick fix, we may not get a good season, but what we will get back, eventually, is Liverpool Football Club and for me that's worth waiting for.

16 Nov 2010 13:06:23
16 Nov 2010 12:30:16
Does anyone belive that nesv will keep roy till end of season, so all the high wage players leave which nesv would like , just my thought YNWA
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SADLY I THINK TORRES, REINA, JOHNSON, AGGER, PACHECO, MAXI AND POSSIBLY LUCAS WILL LEAVE LIVERPOOL BETWEEN JANUARY AND NEXT AUGUST. BUT LIVERPOOL FC WILL SURVIVE AND MOVE ON. REMEMBER WHAT THE SO CALLED EXPERTS SAID WHEN KEEGAN 'FELL OUT' WITH BOB PAISLEY AND MOVED TO HAMBURG. THEY SAID WE WERE FINISHED AND DOCHERTY'S UTD WOULD BECOME THE DOMINANT FORCE. BUT BOB PAISLEY SIGNED KING KENNY AND THE REST IS HISTORY. ALL I ASK FOR IS PROPER COMPENSATION FOR OUR BEST PLAYERS - TORRES(£55M+), REINA(£30M), JOHNSON(£12M), AGGER(£10M), PACHECHO(£4M), MAXI(£4M), LUCAS(£7M), BABEL(£6M), JOVANOVICH(£4M) AND POULSEN(£3M).

16 Nov 2010 12:56:54
Is it just me or is NESV "writing this season off" the worst case scenario?
if we stick with Roy and plan for next season, not only will the likes of torres, reina, gerrard want out but a season with no european football?
season ticket prices will no doubt increase again, past the 700 mark. who wants to pay that to watch a mediocre team with no ambitions?
how can we possibly attract players by writing of a season?

16 Nov 2010 12:56:42
16 Nov 2010 12:30:16
Does anyone belive that nesv will keep roy till end of season, so all the high wage players leave which nesv would like , just my thought YNWA

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I don't think NESV would have a problem with high earners, just that we have too many of them who aren't performing. I'm sure NESV feel Pepe, Nando & Stevie are earning their salaries.
I also doubt NESV would use keeping Roy as a strategy to make players leave. If you want to sell a player, wouldn't you tell him and his agent to start looking for a new club or alternatively offer him as a part exchange when recruiting others. .?


LFC_MIKE_YNWA

16 Nov 2010 12:45:57
After making no attempt to go forward and attack, . Audley Harrison will sign for Liverpool in January.

16 Nov 2010 12:42:51
There has been some speculation about Landon Donovan coming to Liverpool, but on his twitter, a follower asked "Would you ever play for Liverpool?" and he answered with a straight "no."

16 Nov 2010 12:30:16
Does anyone belive that nesv will keep roy till end of season, so all the high wage players leave which nesv would like , just my thought YNWA

16 Nov 2010 12:24:36
Adam Johnson - £15m
Aaron Lennon - £5m plus Ryan Babel
Shaun Wright-Phillips - Loan until the Summer
Roque Santa Cruz - Loan until the Summer
Robbie Keane - Loan until the Summer

SWP has to be THE most overrated player in the prem. You watch him closely for a game and watch how many times he runs at the defence like a headless chicken only to lose the ball. He's on crazy wages at City and there's no way we could afford/ would pay them. Santa Cruz will most certainly be moving abroad so that's him off the list. Aaron Lennon would be good but lacks a final ball, don't think he'd be keen on a move to us anyway. Robbie Keane; after what happened before, I very much doubt he'd come. The only one I'd take would be Adam Johnson.

We've got players like Amoo and Sterling that are better than SWP already. As for strikers, players like Ngoo and Pacheco are much better prospects that Santa Cruz.

Sorry to hiss on your fire but I think your choices are awful.

16 Nov 2010 12:20:55
Roy hodgson was interviewed yesterday. here is the article capturing our conversation:

"roy, tell me what makes yo the best man to take liverpool football club forwards?"

He said, "Two words."

"And, roy, what are they?"

"Right decisions." he responded.

"But how do you make right decisions?"

"One word, " he responded.

"And, roy , what is that?"

"Experience." he responded.

"And how do you get experience?"

"Two words." he responded.

"And, roy , what are they?"

"Wrong decisions."

"ok, roy thank you for that errm answer! ".

16 Nov 2010 12:14:33
Fans should wear green during the next match if our team is getting beat, in support of ousting Hodgson and showing the new yanks how much unity our special club has.

Mate wot are you s* ting about sitting in the KOP looking like a bunch of Celtic fans get a grip oooh really scared of the green jumper brigade, , Didnt work for united all it did was got some aisian company alot of business. Get a grip mate and get behind your manager.

Quigz23
ynwa

16 Nov 2010 11:43:16
Aaron lennon £5 mill plus babel? fella you need to gain a brain! pop down the local butchers and ask for a brain! any animals would be better than the one you have now?
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EH? Ok lets swap 1 player with pace with no final ball and no footbaling brain for another exact type player, who hates the city. At least every now and again babel has got a wonder goal in him, tell Arry he can keep him.

16 Nov 2010 11:38:42
Adam Johnson. Bel
Joe Cole. UnbelWho do u prefer? {ed's note - Joe Cole is a central midfielder forced to play out wide, Johnson is a winger. Why would we choose between them?}

16 Nov 2010 11:34:09
Ed your thoughts pls? {ed's note - they wouldn't have hired Comolli without consulting Roy if they had faith in him. It is clear confirmation that he is not seen as a part of the long term future of the club, whatever statements they might make to the contrary.}

Ed like someone said on here yesterday, could possibly be a "who gets sacked first" game Saturday?

Hope we do not get too many french youngsters in the squad, pushes our youth etc further done the pecking order.

That guy who manages Porto sounds like a good choice, with his age etc.

Laa73 {ed's note - I think they are hoping to wait until the end of the season before removing Roy, that gives them more time to line up the replacement.}

16 Nov 2010 11:32:54
Lennon- will not come to liverpool cos wot he said about the city

young- wants to go to spurs

johnson- owners will never sell to liverpool or any rival, they own there plyers and say who they will sell to(unlike roy) unless out of contrct.

but is a shame because i have always said id like young and lennon on wings, torres would be hitting the 30 odd mark every season

16 Nov 2010 11:29:18
Personally I believe that in his interview, Woy was asked
'Why do you think your the man to take Liverpool forward?'
and he replied:
'Because when you say jump ill ask how high'

Andy, Burscough

16 Nov 2010 11:22:20
Ok so at present we are going through a rough time with manager and form etc.

But seeing as we are being linked with various youngsters, plus a few "french starlets" looks like Roy's days are numbered in player transfers and the like.

I do believe when Roy gets the boot Poulson and Konchesky will follow him out the door. plus a few others.

Like the song says " At the end of the storm is a golden sky" which at the current time we are in the storm.

But i for one am excited at what the future holds for LFC, at least our dirty washing is no longer being done in public and NESV are keeping their cards close to their chest.

In life all good things come to those that wait, and soon LFC will be up there again fighting it out with the best of them, so let Chelsea, Manure, City have there day because our time to shine is just around the corner.

Laa73

Ed your thoughts pls? {ed's note - they wouldn't have hired Comolli without consulting Roy if they had faith in him. It is clear confirmation that he is not seen as a part of the long term future of the club, whatever statements they might make to the contrary.}

16 Nov 2010 11:21:49
Hi ed my bosses best friend(I know I'll get flack for this but only saying wat I was told) has a box at man city and my boss was over there a few weeks ago and he said that there was talk of Liverpool enquiring about Adam Johnson. Ashley young is also a supposed target but Johnson is thought to be no.1 on our list along with a striker. With comoli coming in I don't know wats the plan but he told me this. then again it could be all bull.we will have to wait and see. Would you like him ed? I'm in Ireland so have no contacts with info so if not true I'll kill my boss.
Fowler is god {ed's note - I wanted him before he went to City, he was always a talented young left winger, I watched him as a kid at Boro and he was twice the player Downing was. If we buy him and play him on the left he would be fantastic.}

16 Nov 2010 11:15:10
Manchester City winger Adam Johnson has hinted that he may be forced to leave Eastlands in order to find regular first-team football after revealing his frustration at being consistently overlooked by Roberto Mancini.

BEL- YES; WE SHOULD GET HIM
UNBEL- NO

16 Nov 2010 11:10:17
{ed's note - I don't really understand where you get the not spending in January from? I just got the impression they were just lowering expectations myself, to stop us expecting them to go out and buy a whole new team.}
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I agree. I think the media in this case have taken things out of proportion as usual when it comes to Liverpool. Henry says the main spending will be done in the Summer window and the media say that he's not going to spend.

He also said the game against Chelsea is evident that we do have some quality in the team and are capable of playing like that.

I wonder if he's holding back in January because a new manager will be here by the Summer? Obviously to avoid new players being signed that the new manager doesn't want? Possible

16 Nov 2010 11:05:48
Hi Ed,

There was a lot of talk about the board meeting yesterday, but I haven't seen any reports of any news emanating from it.

There obviously wasn't any big news, and in particular no news on Roy as many people were hoping for, but was there any news at all?

thanks {ed's note - nothing that I have heard mate, but then I never expected anything of note personally. Board meetings happen regularly, it was just wishful thinking that led people to expect anything to happen at this one.}

16 Nov 2010 11:05:47
Steven Piennar unlikely to sign a new deal with Everton meaning he's free in the Summer and apparantly his agent hasn't ruled out a move to Liverpool.

Well he's a good player, no doubt about that. And on a free. Very creative and he seems great on the ball. Don't think he could hold down a regular starting place though if we signed other quality players.

16 Nov 2010 10:52:41
I wonder when Roy was getting interviewed and they asked him: Why are you the best man to take LFC forward? What did Roy reply? Give me your suggestions. Have a go yourself ed lets try and have a laugh!

16 Nov 2010 10:52:37
Johnson would quit City - ssn

Get him in - enquire now! but as always we will end up going for the cheaper option like bruno cheyrou's younger brother! !

16 Nov 2010 10:37:32
Asaron lennon £5 mill plus babel? fella you need to gain a brain! pop down the local butchers and ask for a brain! any animals would be better than the one you have now? for one ash young is desp to join spurs and IF azza was to leave spurs(which he wont) after his disturbing remarks about liverpool and manchester i really can't see him going to any of those city's which would only leave villa and i can't see him going there so it would be abroad

16 Nov 2010 10:21:14
Were interested in 4 players playing in the French league

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You really are a genius mate

16 Nov 2010 10:19:52
Camoli interview was a bit disapointing, Saying he would recommend players the style of which the manager likes.Expect him at your local sunday ale-house league in the coming weeks, lads. what do you think ED going to get your boots out?

{Editor's Note: It was political correctness as I see it.}

16 Nov 2010 10:13:35
To everybody saying that we should by A. Jhonson, i'm no expert but i cannot see ANY chance af Man City selling to one of their rivals.

16 Nov 2010 10:13:26
Liverpools new fulbacks will be Emanuelson for LB and Van
der wiel for RB with Johnson leaving to Juve or Bayern.

Ladders

16 Nov 2010 10:02:36
Barcelona get Afellay for 2-4m Euro? That is an absolute steal if it's true.

{Editor's Note: I agree - but he is out of contract at the end of the season.}

16 Nov 2010 09:58:48
Does anybody else believe that by selling G.Johnson to City for £10m and A.Johnson and bringing in Van Der Wiel, we would lose an incompetent defender and gain an aspiring superstar winger, and a real full back, we can also give Kelly the oportunity there, and at centre back, he is the perfect long term successor to Carragher.

Andy, Burscough

Ed what u think?

{Editor's Note: There is no way that Glen Johnson is worth £10m plus Adam Johnson - but perhaps a straight swap would be closer to the true value. I don't see Van Der Wiel being interested as there will be various options open to him in any case.}

16 Nov 2010 09:35:37
Does anybody else believe that by selling G.Johnson to City for £10m and A.Johnson and bringing in Van Der Wiel, we would lose an incompetent defender and gain an aspiring superstar winger, and a real full back, we can also give Kelly the oportunity there, and at centre back, he is the perfect long term successor to Carragher.

Andy, Burscough

16 Nov 2010 09:24:52
Adam Johnson has indicated he would be ready to quit Moneychester City if he wasn't able to command a regular place. Think he would look good in a red shirt myself.

16 Nov 2010 09:20:53
Were interested in 4 players playing in the French league

16 Nov 2010 09:17:14
"We didn't buy Luke Young because of wage demands but brought useless paul konchesky instead."

-This is complete rubbish mate. We didn't get Luke Young (who'd prob been better than PK) because he didn't want to sign as a backup utility player. Luke Young has been quoted as such - sure a google search will prove it to you if you doubt what I'm writing.

LFC_MIKE_YNWA

16 Nov 2010 09:11:46
MAJOR LIVERPOOL RUMOUR!
My brother in law is mates with Steve McMahon and hes told him in no uncertain terms that there will be major upheaval during January as there will be severe disruption along Allerton Road due to roadworks from 04/ 01/ 11. Thats gonna cause murder getting to town by 8.30 in the morning. It just gets any worse.

Cabbage Crisis

16 Nov 2010 09:01:59
Morning Ed
Just wondered what your opinion on what will happen in the Jan transfer market as I watched the Damian Comolli interview on LFCTV last night and he said he was looking at both short term plan in the next 2 transfer windows and the long term plan so I assume he would be looking for a couple of reinforcments in Jan and possibly more players in the summer. However I then read that John Henry thinks nothing will happen until the summer.

So is this poor journalism by certain writers to create worry in LFC fans minds that nothing is going to happen in Jan or is John Henry playing his cards close the his chest to lower the fans expectations about transfers & we going back to the old days when you heard very little about new liverpool signnings until the club announced a press conference where the players where then introduced

RedDan

{Editor's Note: I would expect a little bit of tinkering in January and that is all. Players will only be bought who can improve the team and I doubt that squad players will be bought. So we are back to the striker/winger scenario - plus possible replacements for anyone leaving. It also depends what happens regarding the manager/coach.}

16 Nov 2010 08:51:28
Has anyone seen the interview with Daniel Comoli.

On new players he stated that the manager must like them, and they must be players who fit into the managers training & playing philosophy.

So we will sign more useless defenders, and players with no fight or bottle in them.

Can't wait.

KBL

16 Nov 2010 08:21:23
PSV Eindhoven and Barcelona have reached agreement over the transfer of Dutch international Ibrahim Afellay during the next window in January.

PSV will receive a transfer fee of 2-4 million euros, according to Dutch media reports.


AJI

16 Nov 2010 08:06:39
So looks like we have missed out on ibrahim affelay then, no suprise there, and i really hope poulsens agent is only joking that poulsen is ready to fight for his shirt. . i hope he only means when he gets jumped!

Chris

16 Nov 2010 02:55:17
I'm sorry but i don't think King Kenny will be manager again, he's been out the game for to long.
i love the king but we need someone younger and hungry for success.
Ed what do you think?
redrik

{Editor's Note: If Dalglish ends up as manager it will only be an interim appointment.}

16 Nov 2010 02:21:06
Christian Poulsen has no plans to engineer a move away from Liverpool, according to his agent.

16 Nov 2010 01:51:09
Why r so called fans asking for hodgsons head, , , is there no meaning in youll never walk alone anymore, , has everyone lost the unity, , i mean come on guys, we have never asked for a managers head like this, , benitez in his first 13 league games, , he won 6 drew 2 and lost 5 hodgson has won 4 drew 4 lost 5 in europe, , benitez won 3 drew 1 lost 3 hodgson won 6 drew 2, , overall 22 games gone by benitez won 11, , drew 3, , lost 8 hodgson, , won 10, , drew 6, , lost 6, , , , , , as u can see benitez lost more games than hodgson in first 22 games of season, , hes won only 1 more game than hodgson, , and only had 4 points more than hodgson, , now hodgson and benitez have had nearly same amount of wins and losses, , but no one was shouting for benitez's head after 22 games, , so why we asking for a managers head after only 4 months, , , ok hes made mistakes but so did benitez yet no one called for his head, , and benitez in his first season had easy games, he had man united and chelsea in first 22 games as his hardest games, , hodgson this season has had chelsea, man united, everton, man city, arsenal, , yeah benitez had spurs and city too but then they werent as strong as now they were fighting in bottom half of table, , , im not saying hes the right guy for the job, , , but i am saying he deserves a chance to prove ppl wrong
YNWA ALLS IM SAYING

ed can u please put this in rumours page please jus no one really reads the banter page

16 Nov 2010 01:38:22
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16 Nov 2010 01:21:21
(1) How do you know what they have done at the club? There's a lot more to running a club than sacking managers and buying players.

1>humm, like canceling the build on new stadium
2>humm, Taking a player inventory>value vs wages
3>by brainwashing you fans into thinkin these american give a dam, John Henry talks a good game.

Ok fine, lets get real, you are right. They may have done alot things at the club like increasing food prices and getting expansion plans drawing for new corporate boxes or sat down a thought about how they where going to sell their new product to american market.

(2) Virtually every sports finance analyst agrees that NESV got an excellent deal that was in no way inflated.

You really believe that, only reason it was valued so high was because of £288 million of debt.

The playing staff, stadium, revenue doesn't justify the price tag.

We got knocked out of champions league. (-£100m in earning power) lost xabi alonso and marchreao two key assets.

(3) Just because they have not spent yet, does not mean we have to leap to the conclusion that the reason is because they lack the finances.

Im not saying its due to lack of finances, but more lack of ambition.

martin broughton has balanced the books. We didn't buy Luke Young because of wage demands but brought useless paul konchesky instead.

Just goes to show how the club will be run in the future.

(4) I'm sorry but the assertion that they actually intend to devalue their acquisition is far fetched at best.

By not getting back in the champions league. They have devalued the club. By not getting into the champions league they will lose star players. Hence devalue

(5) There is no such thing as a CL club. When bought we were, and still are at the moment, a Europa League club. We aspire to better, but we are where we are.

Tell that to a Man Utd fan, next time you see one a the pub.

yeah? (a) the transfer window isn't open yet (b) konchesky was bought by hicks and gillett (c) mascherano and alonso were sold by hicks and gillett (d) europa league or champions league for NESV. . . tough one that considering theres 4 times the revenue available for the champions league (e) why would anyone devalue their own asset? (f) john henry has already said judge us by actions not words (g) the only reason we won't be in the champions league will be roy hodgson (h) NESV have only had the club a month, what did you expect to happen in 30 days?

16 Nov 2010 01:21:21
(1) How do you know what they have done at the club? There's a lot more to running a club than sacking managers and buying players.

1>humm, like canceling the build on new stadium
2>humm, Taking a player inventory>value vs wages
3>by brainwashing you fans into thinkin these american give a dam, John Henry talks a good game.

Ok fine, lets get real, you are right. They may have done alot things at the club like increasing food prices and getting expansion plans drawing for new corporate boxes or sat down a thought about how they where going to sell their new product to american market.

(2) Virtually every sports finance analyst agrees that NESV got an excellent deal that was in no way inflated.

You really believe that, only reason it was valued so high was because of £288 million of debt.

The playing staff, stadium, revenue doesn't justify the price tag.

We got knocked out of champions league. (-£100m in earning power) lost xabi alonso and marchreao two key assets.

(3) Just because they have not spent yet, does not mean we have to leap to the conclusion that the reason is because they lack the finances.

Im not saying its due to lack of finances, but more lack of ambition.

martin broughton has balanced the books. We didn't buy Luke Young because of wage demands but brought useless paul konchesky instead.

Just goes to show how the club will be run in the future.

(4) I'm sorry but the assertion that they actually intend to devalue their acquisition is far fetched at best.

By not getting back in the champions league. They have devalued the club. By not getting into the champions league they will lose star players. Hence devalue

(5) There is no such thing as a CL club. When bought we were, and still are at the moment, a Europa League club. We aspire to better, but we are where we are.

Tell that to a Man Utd fan, next time you see one a the pub.

16 Nov 2010 00:55:39
"16 Nov 2010 00:16:54
RE: not be renewing my season ticket and that's a promise! i think the new owners have done great

Did u mean Job?,

Well they have done very little at the club. We are still losing easy games. They paid extremely inflated price for football club £300m and seem to have little left in pockets for player + coaches.

Now they intend to devalue the club more by letting star players like Torres, Gerrard, Johnson, Renia walk.

They paid £300m for Champions league club. If they want to keep any kind of value in the name, they need to get back into the champions league this season and spend big to achieve it.

Bring in the right coaches to motivate star names. We played well for 45minutes against Arsenal and Chelsea.

Shows how motivated these players are. They are capiable of doing so much more, showing very little."

In reply;
(1) How do you know what they have done at the club? There's a lot more to running a club than sacking managers and buying players.
(2) Virtually every sports finance analyst agrees that NESV got an excellent deal that was in no way inflated.
(3) Just because they have not spent yet, does not mean we have to leap to the conclusion that the reason is because they lack the finances.
(4) I'm sorry but the assertion that they actually intend to devalue their acquisition is far fetched at best.
(5) There is no such thing as a CL club. When bought we were, and still are at the moment, a Europa League club. We aspire to better, but we are where we are.

I agree with your final sentiments, but let's not assume that because we see no major changes this means NESV are twiddling their thumbs and actively seeking to scuttle the club by devaluing it. They sought out the senior players to talk to them and assuage their fears, yet didn't involve Hodgson in the appointment process of Comolli.
This should be adequate indication as to how they plan to proceed and who they see as indispensable.

16 Nov 2010 00:50:28
Fans should wear green during the next match if our team is getting beat, in support of ousting Hodgson and showing the new yanks how much unity our special club has

16 Nov 2010 00:49:15
I don't think anyone should believe everything coming from the board or the club. Comolli isn't going to make negative comments about Roy. If Roy goes the press will make him the scapegoat for Roy's departure. John Henry might be giving Roy enough rope to hang himself while they shop around. This all has to be done in a very nice way. Its the only chance the xenophobic press won't give him a battering either, as foreigner sacking one of their boys. NESV have to be careful. Their reputation is everything. I think he's taken a calculated risk with Roy for now.

So you have to at least consider we might be listening to a bit of false reality created by a media aware organisation. Maybe they love the drama like the rest of us. NESV don't need the UK press on their backs. I think the quiet and dignified way they have gone about business speaks volumes. I like it. Sometimes in my sillier moments I wonder if its actually the premier league the Americans are after?!

16 Nov 2010 00:43:48
This is all starting to knock me sick now. as i said last week this is all going to get a lot worst, ther is big disputes going on, i think henry is saying he going to stick with roy, as i said when we played everton i think roy will get the sack for the spurs game, john is staying loyal, ( wich is a good thing as the 2 cartoons tried to do it to rafa, and fans turned against them for it, they don't know soccer yet so they need to get the right ppl behind them to make the descions to act on) but come the west ham game if we don't tear them over and get 3 points at anfield, then the fans will sure make thoughts and feeling known and john will have to act on it then and bring kenny in to steady ship. there my thoughts. if i am wrong then after spurs game and roy still there i won't be going to any more games, not to watch the football that is being played, thou i will still support throu heart and soul.

Roy seems likely to stay. Americans won't be held to ransom by fans. John Henry is still learning and doesn't realise how important it is to get into the champions league. Club is still rebuilding within. Dalglish won't become manager. Stability! Your talking about Liverpool football club here, no such thing as stability as we are to big and ambitious for stability. We fight to challenge, this makes us different from other clubs and make our chin up and pride with passion will follow. We want to win

16 Nov 2010 00:38:24
In reading all of the information from people's sources and what I am hearing in the media I'm starting to believe that NESV will essentially write this season off. I belive that they will spend very little in the jan window and will give a new manager a kitty next summer to build their own squad to build on for the future. They see this as a long term project and will build their business model slowly and gradually rather opposed to throwing millions of dollars and trying to win the title next year. While it makes good business sense I'm desperate to win the title now and not sure that the likes of Torres will stick around to see the plan into fruition! Ed - your thoughts? {ed's note - I think you are correct mate, I don't expect much to happen in January at all.}

16 Nov 2010 00:35:41
Leave hodgson alone u haters just go suport man utd u glory hunters and nesv said its not his fault in the meeting
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lol - Roy's relatives follow your site ed - LIVERPRES

16 Nov 2010 00:34:20
Roy Hogson is going no where soon.

The fans want him gone, fans don't like the look of him.

16 Nov 2010 00:33:42
This is all starting to knock me sick now. as i said last week this is all going to get a lot worst, ther is big disputes going on, i think henry is saying he going to stick with roy, as i said when we played everton i think roy will get the sack for the spurs game, john is staying loyal, ( wich is a good thing as the 2 cartoons tried to do it to rafa, and fans turned against them for it, they don't know soccer yet so they need to get the right ppl behind them to make the descions to act on) but come the west ham game if we don't tear them over and get 3 points at anfield, then the fans will sure make thoughts and feeling known and john will have to act on it then and bring kenny in to steady ship. there my thoughts. if i am wrong then after spurs game and roy still there i won't be going to any more games, not to watch the football that is being played, thou i will still support throu heart and soul.

16 Nov 2010 00:29:25
RE: Away Wins

1997/ 98 - Blackburn Rovers - 5 Away wins - Finished 6th
1998/ 99 - Blackburn Rovers - 0 Away wins - Sacked when 20th
2007/ 08 - Fulham - 3 Away wins - Finished 17th
2008/ 09 - Fulham - 3 Away wins - Finished 7th
2009/ 10 - Fulham - 1 Away win - Finished 12th
2010/ 11 - Liverpool - Away win - Currently ?

Thats a shocking tactic, but one that show us his tactics are wrong. He makes the game easier for the other team by not attacking them.

Bit like this weekends boxing, 1st two rounds they danced around. If we don't attack and pressure weaker teams, we allow them to do us over.

16 Nov 2010 00:16:54
RE: not be renewing my season ticket and that's a promise! i think the new owners have done great

Did u mean Job?,

Well they have done very little at the club. We are still losing easy games. They paid extremely inflated price for football club £300m and seem to have little left in pockets for player + coaches.

Now they intend to devalue the club more by letting star players like Torres, Gerrard, Johnson, Renia walk.

They paid £300m for Champions league club. If they want to keep any kind of value in the name, they need to get back into the champions league this season and spend big to achieve it.

Bring in the right coaches to motivate star names. We played well for 45minutes against Arsenal and Chelsea.

Shows how motivated these players are. They are capiable of doing so much more, showing very little.

16 Nov 2010 00:08:07
French right-back Rod Fanni from Rennes.

You know what, the papers know as much as all the mugs on this website. all they know for sure, Hodgson got on a plane and wotched a football match.

The is wrong, hodgson has little or no input into buying players. He has been told to like it or lump it.

You already know he little or no control over the club, its amazing he has been so willing to take all the blame and give away all the control.

He seems to be the perfect lightening rod for the new owners.

16 Nov 2010 00:00:36
My mates mrs who works at anfield says nesv and the board are to give roy time to turn things around and he has been assured today his job is safe and he has there support! that's wot she said chaps so no european football at all next year so that will also mean bye to torres, reina, johnson and hello carlton cole and swp if this happens i will not be renewing my season ticket and that's a promise! i think the new owners have done great so far but not getting rid of roy now is a HUGE mistake and one that will cost us big time on the pitch and off the pitch. anyone agree press i beleave! Because these hugely successfull business men tell everybody that works at Anfield their plans and ideas for the future! !

nobody knows whats going to happen yet, they haven't even completed the backroom and club structure. How can we know whats going to happen to roy before we have our new CEO whose job it would be to choose our new manager. Remember NESV said they would surround themselves with people with the footballing knowledge to make these decisions.

Dodge