Liverpool Rumours Archive May 16 2017

 

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16 May 2017 20:52:11
I've been told today by someone who normally gives me decent information that Max Meyer is to be seriously persued this summer champions league or not.

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16 May 2017 22:04:08
Thanks for the info waro.

I'm not sure he's good enough though, fairly poor return on goals and assists. Hasn't really kicked on this year as many would have hoped.

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16 May 2017 22:58:24
Thanks for sharing Waro. Meyer is a decent player, but has not kicked on like Brandt or Sane has, but he is versatile, and can play wide or in central midfield in a 3 as an attacking player.

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16 May 2017 23:01:58
Gareth Bale is coming too.

Thanks for the info Waro 👍.

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17 May 2017 11:32:26
Thought I'd pass it on as I don't normally get transfer target info from him, just team news and injuries, I'm not sure about it to be honest as were overloaded with midfielders I thought it'd be a defender he'd be telling me about, but time will tell.

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17 May 2017 13:34:55
Hard to judge him as he is used as a squad player. 2 goals and 5 assists in 1600 odd minutes according to stat sites. Hardly poor for a 21 year old attacking midfielder.

It's his all around game and his potential that you pay for, and that is excellent. For me, it spells the end for someone. Look at all the young attacking midfield players we have; Ojo, Wilson, Brannagan, Ejaria, Woodburn, Grujic, Kent and even Arnold to some extent. Meyer though to be fair is probably better than all of them excluding Grujic, Arnold and Woodburn. So perhaps if we were to sell/ loan Brannagan, Ojo, Wilson, Ejaria and Kent it makes sense. We do need to improve our squad depth and Meyer is a player who doesn't mind being a squad player. He seems level headed enough to understand that is his current level, despite his enormous potential. Could be good business.

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17 May 2017 13:47:34
Good points by MK, the kid burst out into the scene at a very early age, and has much room for development. However, I would be worried about his position, since he was seen as an alternative to Brandt, the much-coveted LW option for our squad. I admit to not watching much of Meyer, but I always had the impression his position was a bit unclear, but seen as more central. That would make him a good back-up for the periods when Couts is out injured or needs a rest, but would not offer the speed and directness that a genuine LW could bring?

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17 May 2017 15:14:40
He's very versatile Drigan. I've seen him play Right midfield, attacking midfield, right wing, second striker and even centre mid. Weirdly enough though, I've never seen him play on the left.

As you say, I don't think his eventual position has been decided yet. His touch and movement is fantastic though. He can link play up no matter where he plays.

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17 May 2017 18:34:57
Not sure he's an improvement on what we have though.

He wouldn't displace Couts, lallana, wiji or Emre.

I also don't think he's much better than Wilson or Grujic our current 2 young midfielders waiting for game time.

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17 May 2017 18:34:02
I've messaged him today about any info on VVD, but had no reply as of yet, if he knows anything I'll post it.

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17 May 2017 18:52:33
If hardly count playing right mid and right wing as versatile mk ;)

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17 May 2017 19:24:30
Of course it is Fencey. Playing on the right of a midfield is much much defensively demanding than playing on the right of a forward line. A lot of forward players (Pedro for instance) have to be played as a dedicated wide forward because they can't or won't track back.

I get what you mean though. In an attacking sense, your role doesn't really change except that right wingers are expected to contribute more goals.

Really not sure people can put Wilson in the same bracket as Meyer by the way. I like Wilson but Meyer is a first team squad player who makes nearly 30 appearances a season for 3 years running. Wilson has had 20 minutes off the bench unless you include a few failed loan moves in sub-par leagues.

Meyer is potentially world class and could be an excellent long term replacement for Coutinho or Lallana; as Coutinho may well leave to go to Barcelona eventually, and Lallana is getting on for 30 years old and also isn't really that great anyway.

It is about long term investment sometimes. Chelsea didn't sign Zouma to instantly play every game. He is a long term project. A player with immense potential who they have brought in to be moulded into exactly what they need when the likes of Terry and Cahill are gone.

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18 May 2017 18:39:00
Brandt is way ahead of him and has been since the Olympics last summer were both along with Sule were very good.

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19 May 2017 14:17:52
Got a text late last night about VVD, don't shoot the messenger, but apparently the club are happy to say nothing about the link to him but have zero interest in the player, there looking at it helping them muddy the waters about other transfer targets, I'm paraphrasing but that was the gist.

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16 May 2017 18:28:47
Any truth in the rumours of rafinha linked with Liverpool? Cheers eds.

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{Ed002's Note - I assume this is barcelona's Rafinha? If so, there is every chance that they would be interested in throwing Rafinha in to any deal for Coutinho - Rafinha doesn't play in that many games and effectively is used as cover in central midfield but I don't know of their trying to sell the player, nor the player wishing to leave, nor interest from Liverpool.

If howver this is the Rafinha from Bayern, then it would make some sense if Liverpool were looking for a right back who can cover elsewhere. He would not be expensive and has spoken of interest and offers from England - but again I am not aware of Liverpool interest at this time.}

16 May 2017 23:10:59
I saw an article claiming Barca's Rafinha was coming to us as part of a make weight for Coutinho. I dismissed it as click bait.

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17 May 2017 08:44:15
Yes I was referring to rafinha of barcelona, although I'd take both ha.

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18 May 2017 18:41:29
Make-weight transfers no longer happen apart from a loan deal of a player going the other way during a transfer.

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16 May 2017 14:33:09
Hi Eds, I know you mentioned a while back that Brandt might want assurances about a game time and recently it has been reported publicly too. I was wondering (and it might be a bit of stretch) if Klopp talking openly about Coutinho dropping deeper in future might have been a way of making space within the starting XI for Brandt?

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{Ed002's Note - No, it would make no difference. If Klopp wants to persuade Brandt he needs to get permission to talk to the player from his club, or perhaps tell his agent, that he will be first choice at Liverpool. With Douglas Costa's situation unresolved Bayern Munich could again look to Brandt, and if Costa moves, then they will be able to assure him of plenty of game time as Ribery sees out his last season. Else he will likely bide his time unless Spurs come calling.}

16 May 2017 14:52:39
With this in mind ed is Luan being looked at instead of Brandt or not really related?

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{Ed002's Note - Unrelated - Luan is a striker and would be a replacement for someone like Sturridge.}

16 May 2017 16:05:39
I read today in a German publication that Brandt has decided too leave Leverkusen because of them missing out on Champions League?

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16 May 2017 16:13:46
Ok mate fair enough, I read that he could play LW thought he might have been an alternative. You think Studge might be making thr club think twice about selling him after his cameo at the weekend?

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{Ed002's Note - It would be playing him out of position.

The club has been sustained in their quest for a centre forward and it is likely they will continue. If Sturridge stays it has to be considered a risk based upon his availability in recent years.}

16 May 2017 17:07:03
Thanks for the reply Ed. Just found the timing of it a bit strange, I was probably just reading into it too much.

Personally I think another wide is vital for us next season, not to compete with Mane but to compliment him on the opposite side. It just gives Klopp more options and flexibility as we've looked blunt and one dimensional at times when Mane has been missing.

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{Ed002's Note - That is why Klopp wants Brandt.}

16 May 2017 17:45:16
With Dembele and Azmoun not happening. Is there anyone else new that we are now lucking at mate, or have you mentioned them previously?

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{Ed002's Note - None beyond those discussed as far as I am aware.}

16 May 2017 19:02:29
Ok mate cheers. I would be happy with Luan, I think he will link up well with Couts and Bobby. Will see.

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16 May 2017 19:13:52
Hi Edo2

Re. Brandt, despite the player's concerns, do you feel that a reasonable a chance of a deal being done still remains? In your view, should LFC persist?

Could you see Klopp soon drawing the line on this one and moving on?
If so, what viable alternatives are there/ been looked at?

Thank you in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - In order to happen the player needs to drop his demand or Liverpool need to offer a guarantee - which they have done in the past and Klopp has been happy to announce his number one pick in some cases. He is the player Liverpool want, Bayern's interest may also return. Alternatives have been looked at as was explained in the Sharkopod.}

16 May 2017 19:56:33
It cracks me up Ed002.Players requesting guaranteed playing time.

Will these same players be seeking assurances if they get injured 🙄🙄🙄.

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{Ed002's Note - It has become a very common thing - most clubs don't entertain it.}

16 May 2017 20:13:19
a previous user debated ....................

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what your problem is. I have explained all the way along about Liverpool wanting a left winger and I have explained over and over again the situation with Brandt - and I have said other who the club have been looking at. You would perhaps do better simply going elsewhere.}

16 May 2017 20:29:07
It's not just football clubs Ed002.

When it comes to Liverpool away, I ask my missus for permission/ playing time. She doesn't entertain it lol . Apparently the 19 home games are enough for me these days, my three year old son probably makes it a plausible.

Mind you, I managed to wangle West Ham away at the weekend, the meeting in London Monday morning did trick
😎😎.

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