Liverpool Rumours Archive August 15 2017

15 Aug 2017 14:49:23
Hi Eds, probably just the media jumping the gun expecting Couts to go because of his transfer request, but any truth in the Arturo Vidal talk. id give both my nuts to see LFC sign someone of that caliber for once in my lifetime

Love the page shots Eds.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of Liverpool making any approach for Vidal.}

15 Aug 2017 15:07:23
You must be young. We signed Torres, Suarez, Alonso, and a fellow named coutinho. I'm guess all in your lifetime.

15 Aug 2017 15:19:54
He was a world class player at his peak, but his peak is ending and at £50m, that's a lot of money for a bloke who doesn't have many of miles left the clock.

15 Aug 2017 15:20:55
I feel the transfer window will either go two ways. We'll keep Coutinho to mask over our failed transfer dealings or, we'Lloyd sell Coutinho and end up making a few signings very late. I hope I'm wrong though, and I hope we do well tonight! Got anxiety already lol.

15 Aug 2017 15:18:24
As my dad once said to me when I suggested we could Pablo aimar back in 03, 'he wouldn't piss on us I we were on fire. '

15 Aug 2017 16:05:23
Or we could keep Cou and still sign players, right Jigz?

15 Aug 2017 18:19:12
Yes of course we could. I'm just voicing what I feel. Doesn't mean I'm right. I'm still recovering from my failed Keita prediction lol.

15 Aug 2017 18:21:30
Pablo Aimar. wow.

Memories, simikar to Turan ones.

15 Aug 2017 19:11:39
Pablo Aimar was my second favourite saga after Simao!

15 Aug 2017 12:24:51
Hi eds, is n'zonzi somebody we are looking at id read something regarding him and us. I'm not sure if he's completed a move from Sevilla to Juve but if not he'd be a player I'd look at.

{Ed001's Note - not that I am aware of.}

15 Aug 2017 12:39:15
I may have got completely crossed wires on this but I was under the impression that Juve were looking at N'Zonzi or Can.

If that's true and they will wrap up N'Zonzi and not pursue Can then I would rather us just stick with Can instead of paying out quite a large sum for N'Zonzi.

15 Aug 2017 14:58:33
I know it's irrelevant, but when I used to play fifa a few years ago, I always used to buy n'zonzi. Quick, tall, strong and great in the tackle. Is capable of playing forward too. I know it affects Emre but he must know that we need more bulk. If I was in charge, I would do everything I'm my power to keep can. He is still getting better, in a few years I genuinely think he will be one of the best CMs in the world. If N'zonzi rumour is true then surely kieta deal is off? N'Zonzi would be a great signing. Very underrated player.

15 Aug 2017 15:23:13
Hi everyone is talking about players but i have a feeling lfc are not going to sign anyone . does everyone have the same thought. to let Can not go and keep him for another year and leave for nothing is stupidity. it has been the worst summer dealings ever. to get into the champions league playoffs and have no additions and settle for lovren and klavan in defence is bizarre.

15 Aug 2017 15:46:21
Deano, I understand your frustration mate but we have added quality. Salah is going to be deadly this season. Robbo frees up Milner to do his thing where he is still world class in that MF position. Znd I have a feeling dom is going to be our next Owen/ Fowler.

{Ed001's Note - when has Milner been world class? He has never been world class.}

15 Aug 2017 16:06:57
Spot on, Ed. Like you, I must have missed the period of Milner's career where he was world class, myself.

15 Aug 2017 16:26:02
Superred, did you not see the UEFA cup final when Milner was utterly ineffective in centre midfield? Or are you in a parallel universe?

15 Aug 2017 16:30:54
Ok, bit of an exaggeration. He is a dynamic player though who I think we will see the best of this season.

15 Aug 2017 17:54:36
Yeah I did see it. Thought moreno was the weak link. I also saw him in our last 6 games, playing a more reserved style than lfc usually do. It was genius and the players responded to it well. Ok he is not world class but he can be very good and his experience is valuable. He has a premier league medal.

15 Aug 2017 17:55:31
Milner or Hendo in middield? Thoughts.

{Ed025's Note - or would i rather be poked in the eye with a sharp stick or kicked in the nuts by a rampaging bull?..

15 Aug 2017 18:19:15
Oh ed you do make me laugh 😆, honestly neither are good enough right now but if i had to choose its henderson hands down. Keita would have been ideal but that's not happening.

15 Aug 2017 19:19:16
Are you having a laugh Riedwaan or are you so bad at understanding football that you actually believe their is a choice to be made between Henderson and Milner? Henderson is, by an absolute mile, a better choice, a better player, a more suitable player, a more complete player and I could go on and on. Henderson gets all sorts of criticism but watch him play: good positioning, good vision, superb work rate, good in the tackle, vocal, passionate, technically good, does the simple things well - Milner has never been a good central midfielder in his entire career and shouldn't be one now. If we were looking for a player to cover central midfield we should of kept Lucas - Milner is a big drain on wages and offers very, very little to the team - 100k+ p/ week? We are a mental club.

15 Aug 2017 19:25:13
Lol. Hendo not good enough? You're joking! I think he is pure class. Always feel safer when he is playing. Milner Is one of the most underrated player in premiership history. Ok, I have z tendency to exaggerate. Paul Ince said hd was our best player.

15 Aug 2017 20:32:46
Seano I believe the fact he cam cover so many positions makes him worth hos wage. It's like having 3/ 4 choices from bench. I don't know why people underrate Milner. Like I said, he has a premier league medal. great person to have around the club. Good old fashioned English RM.

15 Aug 2017 20:45:44
Milner or Hendo in middield? Thoughts.

{Ed025's Note - or would i rather be poked in the eye with a sharp stick or kicked in the nuts by a rampaging bull? .

Ed025 - Sitting on the fence as usual.

15 Aug 2017 21:23:18
World class goal = Milner.

16 Aug 2017 01:02:38
I think Henderson's time is done for us. We've proved a point to Fergie now, but I would hope we are looking at someone next level. Should be on the bench (or sent to the wall) . Obviously we need to get some others in, but seriously think about midfields we've had.

If you think he is the right man to lead us as a class midfielder I totally disagree.

16 Aug 2017 07:20:57
hahaha, I had to read that 3 times, he called Milner world class! LOL
In that case, Barcelona should sign him to replace Iniesta.

16 Aug 2017 07:33:05
A lot of hendos game gets missed. People don't see his positioning or hear how vocal he is. I was frustrated with Hendo for years and was also saying "why do we play this guy, not good enough" but in the last three years he has become an absolute rock in our team. if you can't see that he Is the heart beat of our team then I can't help you. Would be the first name on the team sheet for me.

16 Aug 2017 15:29:47
Ok guys. I know I was a bit over the top. I have called Milner world class and also ox in the past. I guess it depends how you define world class. Milner has been an international for years for a very decent England team.

I admit I exaggerated a bit but I stand by my statement that he will be massive for us this season. Even if it's just scoring 20 yard goal in a European qualifier I'd be pleased with that. If not for his vision down that left hand side we would have a lot more work to do next week.

16 Aug 2017 16:03:47
People talk a lot about us playing a number 10 and calling all midfield players CMS. None of it makes much sense to me. We don't play 4 4 2 much anymore. Toward end of last season we did, but normally we set up 4 3 3. No number ten. Three forwards. ONE Cm and a RM and LM. Milner Is and has always been a RM who can play LM LB RB LW RW. so I don't see why people worry about him playing in CM the Ox too would be at RM and RW if he came.

15 Aug 2017 09:33:09
Hi Ed's,

Is there a possibility to sign Julian Brandt if at all Coutinho is leaving?

{Ed001's Note - that ship has sailed.}

15 Aug 2017 10:24:00
Like our transfer window except That ship has sunk.

15 Aug 2017 10:28:06
Anything further on Meyer?

{Ed001's Note - no.}

15 Aug 2017 10:48:12
Brandt made it clear, that he wants to resolve the mess of a season they had last year and a move to Bayern with a pre-agreement beeing rumoured in German meadia.

Max Meyer on the other hand would be available. He didn't want to sign a new contract and he said "Who knows, the market is open for another month (said that a few weeks ago) and there is still a chance for a fresh start somewhere else. For now im excited for the new season". His contract ends 2018.

15 Aug 2017 10:56:37
Meyer is not in coutinho's bracket. He is another potential who will need a couple of years to hit the peak. We should look at established players. Meyer and Woodburn what are the differences?

15 Aug 2017 11:02:24
So what's our plan ED001?!

{Ed001's Note - our plan? Are you suggesting that LFC have plans? They have no idea about forward planning, that much is obvious!}

15 Aug 2017 11:17:16
Difference between woodburn and Meyer is a few years more experience. I agree he is still getting better, as coutinio was when we bought him.

15 Aug 2017 11:21:34
Our summer plans? Waste almost the entire transfer window chasing after players that we are told aren't available. keep chasing them. suddenly find out Barcelona are after our best player. discover that he actually wants to leave. return to chase players that aren't available and then realise we have no plan B for
1. The original players we were after
2. a plan to replace our best player who if off to Barcelona.

Then immediately realise that we are no better than we were last season due to all of the above.

MDS.

15 Aug 2017 11:32:03
Sad but true myredog.

15 Aug 2017 12:08:41
Spot on, Faith. Meyer is not in Cou's league. He will be a project just like Woody is so why sign him, exactly?

15 Aug 2017 12:34:41
So liverpool should have only one extremely promising youngster? Meyer has more experience at the top level. He is quite similar to woodburn although I think Meyer is a little better. I hope we go for him. At least we would be going for someone who wants the move.

15 Aug 2017 14:17:08
Have I really just seen someone ask what's the difference between Woodburn and Max Meyer? A regular in the Schalke side and Germany, then a lad who rarely fractures for a poor Liverpool side? Jesus, I know Woodburn has potential but don't say silly things like that.

15 Aug 2017 15:27:16
Agree with everything you said redbutcher until you said "a poor liverpool side" Man, did you watch us last term. I'm biast but we were the best team in the league until mane loss, then PC loss. Did you see the way klopp had us playing in the last few games? Cagey and solid. Very clever. And players like firmino and Can, DS played it excellently.

15 Aug 2017 16:09:13
We must be a poor side cos we did not win the league last season, as if anyone thought we could do that with the team we had with all the holes in them.

15 Aug 2017 19:09:24
Poor Liverpool team, how can you say it's not? We have very little class in depth? We have a defence that a mid table team wouldn't be proud of? Wake up our team is a myth. We have a very good attack. Miles off the pace. We haven't won a trophy in the last 5 years? Poor side maybe harsh in some people's eyes, but everyone can agree with under achieving as a better adjective. I know what I've said is very negative. But when you pay your money to watch from the stands week in week out, you have the right to state your views.

16 Aug 2017 07:41:29
Fair enough redbutcher. Liverpool fans have been spoiled and think winning trophies is a right. Most fans never see their team win anything. I'm not having a go dude, but I will disagree, I think our team oozes class but needs more Players. Defence were class against hoffenhiem. I think we are a great team. In a mini league of the top 7 terms last season we would have been at the top. I think that says it all. We didn't once get beat by a top team. Firminio lallana mane salah Hendo can taa, all amazing.

17 Aug 2017 21:50:00
For me buying him would be a repeat of the Ibe and Markovic situation where the club spent good money on a player they essentially already had and screwed up on both. If have a choice I'd put the time and effort into the 17 year old with potential rather than spend money on an older player whose advantage comes from age and game time and isn't significantly enough better to justify blocking existing players.

15 Aug 2017 03:21:44
Hi Eds, i know this is the liverpool site but is Aymeric Laporte available? He would be a great alternative to Van Dijk.

{Ed001's Note - he is not coming to Liverpool this summer.}