Liverpool Rumours Archive August 14 2020

 

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14 Aug 2020 20:15:20
Anyone else disappointed about Man Utd signing Stefanovic, purely based on what the Ed’s have said?

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{Ed002's Note - It is a great signing for them - he really is one to watch - and a player Liverpool have been very keen on for a couple of years.}

14 Aug 2020 20:51:43
No I am not disappointed because I have never seen him play.

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{Ed002's Note - One that you will come to regret that Liverpool did not bite in the end. He will be a very nifty player going forward.}

14 Aug 2020 22:23:25
Maybe not with OGS managing his development.

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14 Aug 2020 21:56:19
To be fair Ed. We’ve not got £10 to spare, never mind the £10m that United have spent.

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15 Aug 2020 00:04:52
Fella must have a phone.

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15 Aug 2020 02:01:32
Absolute gutted that he’s going to Man Utd. Why on earth didn’t we buy him? I should have done that and beef up our front 3.

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15 Aug 2020 06:25:38
not really. We can't sign everyone.

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15 Aug 2020 08:42:38
Exactly faith. We don’t have the money for our top targets never mind kids who need to be loaned out.

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15 Aug 2020 18:55:37
Stevanovic is a kiddie who has barley played he has a long long way to go and there as so many who have the same weight of expectation put on them. let's not bother ourselves with it. We have a heap of young players ready to make the grade.

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{Ed002's Note - You are right - it really does show how little Klopp and the Liverpool scouts know after wasting so much effort looking at the player. The arrogance is astonishing.}

15 Aug 2020 19:30:22
We scout many players many times all over the world, we won't sign the all. that's football move on.

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{Ed002's Note - Nobody is suggesting Liverpool will sign them all, but the arrogance of some supporters (like you) is what makes a lot of the fan base a laughing stock.}

15 Aug 2020 22:32:36
Strange thing to say arrogance we didn’t signs player. I think we’ll miss out and their gain but that happens unfortunately. Some sections maybe “laughing stock” but can’t blanket us all. In fairness our transfer business has been good past few years and I do dint are if it’s klopp or others as long as it benefits lfc. whatever you think us (very little) We’ve gone from top ten to winning everything. Arrogance is not thinking or needing to buy and / or improve which I’m sure we are finances permitting.

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15 Aug 2020 22:56:21
I’m disappointed that we missed out, but it is what it is. On the bright side, Harvey Elliott looks a really good prospect so glass half full.

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15 Aug 2020 23:47:13
Is it mostly done to united then Ed? I really liked this lad. I'm with you. Think he's a potential future star of the game.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not sure is everything is finalised.}

16 Aug 2020 07:05:46
Should have got Klopp in the phone sooner.

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16 Aug 2020 07:20:13
I really hope we can steal this from Man U. This kid is special and if we have spent so much time scouting him, we should drop Thiago and just end our transfer business with him and provide cover for our front 3.

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14 Aug 2020 12:15:20
So Fabrizio Romano has stated (along with many German sources) that Liverpool have made contact with Bayern over Thiago. However this has been denied by Sky "sources". Is there any truth to this (regarding what Fabrizio has said) and what would Bayern accept in terms of a fee?

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{Ed002's Note - Bayern Munich want €35M and will accept a little less. That is what they would have been telling the sides they are talking to.}

14 Aug 2020 12:44:23
Is Liverpool one of those "sides they are talking to"? I appreciate if you are unaware, one can't know everything.

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

14 Aug 2020 13:20:12
Cheers Ed002, have a good Friday.

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{Ed002's Note - And you.}

14 Aug 2020 13:52:23
Do you think if they can sell Thiago they might move for Havertz?

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{Ed002's Note - No, they have already addressed the replacement of Thiago.}

14 Aug 2020 13:11:35
Ed1 said it seems likely he will sign now? Ed1, is this from information recieved? Thanks in advance.

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{Ed001's Note - no, just from the way it is heading. It is going down the same path as other players, such as van Dijk.}

14 Aug 2020 14:24:58
Do you mean as in we tapped him up and now he only wants to play for us? Similar to the VVD scenario Ed001?

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{Ed002's Note - This whole thing has been done to death. I really don't get why the Liverpool supporters want to keep hearing about it.}

14 Aug 2020 14:37:24
Thanks for the reply ed1.

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome.}

14 Aug 2020 19:59:47
Because you have such a soothing voice Ed002 ;)

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15 Aug 2020 08:36:36
I really can’t see this happening, it’s not a FSG type signing. £30 million + for a 29 year old with no resale value at the end of his contract whilst we already have options in that position, as good as he maybe I just can’t see the owners sanctioning it.

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14 Aug 2020 12:15:11
eds - echo quoted a club source who denied that the club had been in contact with bayern regards Thiago. part of the rationale they gave was that the club wouldn't want to pay a transfer fee for a player they could sign for free in a year. my question is, for any club wanting to sign Thiago this year, wouldn't they also negotiate an extension to his current contract? it seems like he wants to leave Bayern now, so if another club picked him sure they would be wanting to have him sign a multi year deal? otherwise what other club would pay a transfer fee for potentially a one year rental!?

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{Ed002's Note - Thiago doesn't want to extend his contract. I don't get your point about a one year rental.}

14 Aug 2020 13:07:48
Once Thiago leaves Bayern he will no longer have a contract with Bayern. He’ll have a new contract at his new club, which I’m sure won’t be for a year. It will be negotiated when Bayern allow somebody to speak to him and it’ll likely be 3-4 years, allowing the buying club to get the remaining top years out of the player and the player to have the chance of extending or leaving for yet another club for one last hurrah, maybe the Middle East, Far East, America or Italy.

By that point he has little resale value, will have declined physically making him less suited to certain ways of playing, will have cost a lot of money in wages and transfer fees and potentially suffered from further injuries which are creeping into his career. Hence why somebody at Liverpool is rightly wary.

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14 Aug 2020 19:39:13
Hi eds, can one of confirm if we are actually in for Thiago or not?

Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - RTFP. I have explained over and over the situation.}

14 Aug 2020 21:08:07
Evening Ed002 - Are you by any chance asking Redman 1 to listen to the Ross Tucker Football Podcast?

Just a small theory I’m working on 😁.

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{Ed002's Note - F on't know what that is so I guess not.}

14 Aug 2020 23:13:52
ed2 - the question is, if Bayern sell thiago this summer, would the purchasing club also be negotiating a new contract for him that extends beyond the year he has left on his current contract? I'm asking the question because the echo rationale for Liverpool not wanting to buy Thiago is because the club don't want to buy a player whose contract is going to end in a year. I didn't understand their rational as it wouldn't seem to make sense for any club to spend money on a transfer who is going to become a FA in a year. that's the one year rental bit. happens in NBA all the time.

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{Ed002's Note - I truly think you are completely confused about transfers. I have no idea what the Echo has said but if Liverpool want the player next year they can legally approach him next January. The length of his contract is unrelated to any club that buys him. So if Liverpool were to buy him they would look for a three to four year deal and would need to pay Bayern Munich an agreed fee.}

15 Aug 2020 00:24:46
Faithibworks you are after getting confused by what you read.

Whenever somebody transfers to a new club they sign a new contract with that club. What the echo mean is that Liverpool don't see value in spending €30m on a 29 year who could be a free agent in 10/ 11 months if he didn't leave Bayern this summer.

In reality, it seems more likely that Thiago will leave Bayern this summer so then he wouldn't be a free agent in 10/ 11 months. It's a case of which club will pay Bayern about €30m and Thiago to agree a contract with them. or maybe us, we'll have to wait and see.

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15 Aug 2020 06:41:08
right, that's all I was after. Didn't need the carry on. Sean Ireland - I think you are right, I misinterpreted that bit about him being free in a year's time. I understood that for all transfers, the player would sign a new contract, hence the confusion in what I thought I'd read in the echo. Having said that, if Thiago says he wants to leave Bayern for anywhere now, then that would be the rationale to spend money on him this year because he won't be free in 12 months time by virtue of being at another club!

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15 Aug 2020 09:23:11
Exactly ya 👍.

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15 Aug 2020 09:35:14
Exactly ya 👍.

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16 Aug 2020 03:16:19
We paid a higher fee to sign AOC when he was into his last year. We got nearly 12 mil for 31 yr old lovren with him available for free next year. 25mil would be good business to get thiago this year, why wait another year and lose out on a season where he could be a key player, this isn't huge money to be saying it can't be a wise investment.

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