Liverpool Rumours Archive June 12 2013

12 Jun 2013 16:00:01
John Barnes to be named new youth team development coach next week.

Please no

I really hope not!

Why would people think this is a bad idea? Barnes is the greatest English player of his generation and one of Liverpool's all time best. Who better to coach youngsters

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Good player does n't mean good coach. he did n't do well when he tried it at other clubs before

John Barnes is the reason I started to support the club. I was 8-9 years old and it was the first European game I saw on TV. I'm not from UK so we rarely watched any matches outside domestic leagues. Barnes was playing a good match and I thought he must be the best player in the world.

Likewise bad manager doesn't mean bad coach I would be all for this if it happaned there can't be a better person for the likes of Ibe Sterling and the other young wingers to learn from surely.

I see Barnes as a very intelligent man, if you've watched any of his interviews or listened to any of his phone ins, he very rarely loses a footballing argument. That being said, I've no idea if he'd be able to turn those words into coaching. It can't be a bad thing though, I'm sure he'll still have some exceptional advice to give, given his footballing ability.

Ask any Tranmere fan about John Barnes! They will tell you how much of a great coach he was! NOT.

12 Jun 2013 20:52:34
Barnes is one of the "Great" Liverpool and england player, but as a coach he is big time failure, whoever wherever barnes has coached it has been disaster and teams, players etc, have negative things to say about him, and their is a reason why Liverpool as club always have kept distance from barnes in that matter despite, barnes going through tough financial condition and had asked before several times to be involved with our academy or senior staff but yet club several times rejected, so I will be massively surprise if he gets appointed anywhere near our academy.

Since last year we have done lots of changes in our academy which has effected our players performances and style of play, I really hope people who have/had been managing our academy before should continue as they have produce players which rodgers enjoying now and rodgers should more focus on first team instead of making big changes in our already best academy in england to soon, we have always played barca style in our academy which the same Rodgers is trying to replicate in our first teams, so no need of changes especially that soon.

Get in!

Superb what a great manager, after his previous jobs wouldn't let him manage the under 5's tw82

12 Jun 2013 23:07:45
LFC legend no doubt, but listening skills need to be on full alert as I can never understand a word he says.

Coaching youth development is not the same as management, the pressure's, the politics. It's a complete different animal. Barnes obviously loves Liverpool, he loves the game and seems interested in giving back to the game at the club that helped make him great, it's hugely positive and hopefully it all pays off.

Look at what Ajax have done with a lot of their retired great players and products: Bergkamp, Blind, the De Boer brothers, Van Der Saar and more have all gone back to working in youth development. Bergkamp shocked many when he decided to coach 12 year olds, but that's what he wanted to do and where he thought he could be most useful, the grass roots of the game.

Barnes' managerial short comings shouldn't be seen as a negative he loves the game and wants to helps the youth system, Sammy Lee was on watch when Gerrard, Carra and other's (before the drought) worked their way through the youth levels, he tried it in management and it didn't work for him, politics, pressures it wasn't a good fit, he's been back in youth development for some time at Bolton and loving his work doing what he's great at working with players like Luke Woodland. Management and youth development not the same thing folks, let's be fair and not judge too quickly. {Ed001's Note - Sammy Lee was not on watch then, he was a minor coach with little involvement in the youth system, thankfully. Awful coach to be honest, shame as he is a lovely feller, but he just isn't good at the job.}

Personally speaking - I hold John Barnes in such high regard as an all time great player for the club and how he always speaks well & positively for the club AND been vocal for the club through recent "issues", which is more than can be said for certain other ex players.
I cannot vouch for his abilities as a manager but I for one will support him in any position the club may offer him.
(Emphasis on the word "may". )

I don't know how anyone can argue that having the most skillful creative Liverpool and england player for a long while helping pass on some of those skills to young kids isn't a good idea. it's a great idea. ok we wasn't great as a manager. how many people are? but this isn't management.

Great News if true. Will make a much better coach than manager. Tried to do too much too soon, i. e. throwing himself into management when he clearly wasn't ready. Too much talent not to pass it on to others.
What a player!

He was on the telly last week talking about his goal vs Brazil and was wearing the Warrior training gear. I had no idea he was a part of the coaching setup

Being a youth coach and being a manager are utterly different. I have no doubt that he'd make a fine coach for the youngsters.

John Barnes, no offence, not a coach

12 Jun 2013 13:27:30
we are not interested in Benteke or lamela. Muriel is a target if suarez goes

Pricey

Haven't the Eds said we have enquirer about benteke?

12 Jun 2013 16:17:14
If we aren't interested in Benteke, why did we inquire about his availability? Seems a waste of time

12 Jun 2013 16:49:14
muriel looks a really good player hope we get him. Tommy Irish Red {Ed030's Note - There would be major Wp issues mate. }

You're Brendan Rodgers are you

Sorry if I'm being ignorant Ed, but what's a Wp issue?. sure i'm going to kick myself. 'wage packet'? {Ed030's Note - It means work permit mate. }

Under the work permit wouldn't he come under the classification of a great talent? I have heard 002 explain that they either have to have so many caps or be considered a real talent. The fact that he is just breaking into a top top Columbian team and the likely figure he would fetch he would surely come under that category.
Sorry if I have misunderstood anything

(forgot my sign in)

If we're all honest none of us know what's going on, only BR and Ian Ayre and FSG probably know what's going on.

12 Jun 2013 12:13:34
Iago Aspas will be confirmed by 4pm without officially being able to join until the 1st of July

Why the 1st of july? {Ed023's Note - That's the day the international window opens}

Or maybe not?

Its past 4pm now and still no confirmation what is going on!

Yeah or not

And at 16. 52. still waiting Kam_Rayat! I smell BS my friend!

Aspas announced yesterday {Ed030's Note - It wasn't mate. }

How did that go for you?

Is it 4 tomorrow?

It will be confirmed tonight, any time from 8-10pm uk time

intitiwetrust

Apologies guys. I was sure that this was going to be wrapped up by 4pm. Medical is taking longer than expected. He will sign a four year contract.

He had is medical on tuesday and passed.

He has finished medical, paperwork is reason for delay I reckon

Bs. U don't know sh*t

Did this flump mean 4 in the morning!

So is it between 8 and 10pm tonight, 4am tomorrow, 4pm tomorrow or 8 to 10pm tomorrow and has he passed a medical or not? Oh I am so confused!

Thanks for the false info mate!

Well least we will know we will sign him and that is the main thing.

12 Jun 2013 09:23:52
I heard PSV's director say that Strootman would do well in Liverpool or Tottenham sometime ago. Are we really interested in him Eds? {Ed001's Note - not heard of any interest in him from us.}

12 Jun 2013 09:59:35
Morning Ed001,

Sorry to interrupt you from your cup of earl grey mate.

Just wondered if you have seen much of this Alberto lad? don't follow any of the spanish second division and I've only seen small clips on Youtube. Just wanted to know if you have seen much of him this year and what kind of player he is?

And are Barcelona likely to take up the option of buying him before the dealine expires?

Cheers

Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA {Ed001's Note - I haven't seen much of him, a couple of games I have half watched, but not had the chance to actually sit down and watch him fully. Barca are struggling to raise any money, it is unlikely they will take up their option because of that.}

Cheers for that mate! I guess its a good sign if Barca want him, suprised they can't afford him though! How much are Sevilla liekly to want for him?

Did all their money for the summer go on that pre madonna Neymar!

Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA {Ed001's Note - they have an agreed price, but yes they did spend a hell of a lot on Neymar and need to shift some out.}

With barca struggling to raise funds surely some of their fringe players will be up for sale

12 Jun 2013 04:15:21
is the aspas deal done? wasn't he supposed to have a medical on tuesday.

It will be confirmed by the end of today. just wrapping everything up now as we speak

intitiwetrust {Ed001's Note - our medicals are just very in depth and so take a while.}

I think it is done but we need confirmation of it. YNWA like dan agger on his knuckles

His agent says "some beuaracratic issues are holding the deal. " but nothing to worry :D

12 Jun 2013 03:44:28
Bony of vitesse seems desperate to leave, with prem league his preference! Any interest there?

His preference is whoever pays the most.

Do you see the top clubs pursuing him? No!
Why? He's very heavy and slow.