Liverpool Rumours Archive August 12 2021

 

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12 Aug 2021 17:32:01
Well it looks like a matter of time before Shaqiri announced as a Lyon player and Sanches is announced as a Liverpool player. Who do we all think is going to be our other signing?

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12 Aug 2021 18:52:31
Other signing? Who says there will be another, who says we’re getting Sanches.

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12 Aug 2021 18:54:38
Bowen?

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12 Aug 2021 18:47:50
I don’t think Sanches is as close as that Wuger mate with us still looking at others. 2 days before start of the season, I wouldn’t be surprised if we abreast have our squad with no mute incomings based on what Klopp said yesterday.

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{Ed0666's Note - klopp is hardly gonna say we need players and we’re actively seeking them. This would put prices up

12 Aug 2021 19:47:28
Who says we're even getting one. I know assumptions are a midfielder and a versatile attacker, but we could go with what we got. Though another fresh face wouldn't be too bad.

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12 Aug 2021 19:52:59
We are over the max squad size if we register all of our over 21s. Shaqiri leaves and we are still over. Ok, Ojo and Karius probably will not be included in the squad but even so we would still be at maximum of 25 and spending wages on two unregistered players. Any signings will need to be under 21 or at the expense of another squad member. Maybe Woodburn, Phillips or Davies? Then we are down to 8 homegrown players (the limit) unless we register an under 21 hg and take a squad place up.

I suspect Phillips in the next few days. Leaves us 6 centre backs and still some work to do before anyone can arrive at the club.

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12 Aug 2021 20:12:00
Barnesybob, U21s don't count towards the max squad size. Only players who are Over 21 (either HG or non-HG) count towards the sqad. We can register as many U21s as we want in addition to the overage squad.

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12 Aug 2021 20:33:20
ed0666 if it was Sanchez or nobody I would go Nobody and see how we go till January apart from Robertson we have no injuries and his is not to bad. We are going into this season stronger than when we won the league. Lovren replaced by Konate Gini Replaced by Thiago Nathaniel Clyne replaced by Neco Williams Adam Lallana replaced by Jones who was only 18 and made 5 Subs apps and 1 start and the end of the season after the league was won. Jota and Harvey Elliott not part of the squad Ox and Naby having good preseason for the first time in I don't know how long. Minamino I thought his Liverpool career was over but he joined at a very bad time for a shy lad and its been really his first proper preseason where his been away for a good few weeks with the lad and he looks a totally different player. So even if Shaq Origi and Phillips where to leave still got a lot better squad than the one that walked the league by Christmas 2 Years ago. and Salah and Mane have had there first break. only bad point is we lose players for AFCON but with only 2 league games Brentford home and Palace away fixtures could not have been much better for us.

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{Ed0666's Note - mate there’s always that player none of the fans want but the club sign and I feel this is gonna be that player. I hope I’m wrong.

12 Aug 2021 21:25:07
I want Saul- we all want Saul, but if we get sanches I’m going to just go ahead and remember how impressive I first thought he was when he first appeared on the scene. I think if Saul wasn’t in the mix it might be a little easier. The possibility of him going to us or Man Utd has made it a little frustrating.

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12 Aug 2021 22:08:06
Zeddicus… yeah I know. Didn’t say they do mate. We have too many over 21s.

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12 Aug 2021 22:21:41
Sorry I worded my original comment poorly I think. Sorry Zed. I’ll try it again.

We currently have 28 players over the age of 21. They will need registering to play. Shaqiri leaves then we have 27. Karius, Phillips, Ojo, Origi, Woodburn all could come out of that if there were potential buyers/ clubs willing to take one on loan.

We currently have 10 homegrown players needing registering (over the age of 21). Phillips, Woodburn and Ojo are 3 of those. If they all left we are short of homegrown players. We’d have to leave a gap in the squad, so register 24 players instead. Only way round that is to sign cover/ starter who is under 21, sign a homegrown player to have a maximum squad or not sell/ loan one of them.

So really we need to let Shaqiri, Karius, Phillips and one other leave to actually be able to sign a foreign player over the age of 21. Or we could just not register someone (leave them out of the squad) . Not good for us nor the player.

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12 Aug 2021 22:40:17
Sorry, my bad Bob. I read your original post as “under” 21, not “over” 21… 🙈.

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12 Aug 2021 22:42:10
Btw, I think Shaqs gone and Phillips will go too. If we can’t sell Karius, we’ll loan him so at least most or all of his wages are covered, same with Ojo and possibly Woodburn, if the pre season promise is just that.

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12 Aug 2021 22:49:13
If Sanchez comes in he goes to the bench.

Hendo
Fab
Thiago
Ox
Keita
Curtis
Harvey

Who or when would Renato start?

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12 Aug 2021 23:05:24
Grino, I've been thinking exactly the same thing for a few weeks.

The only thing missing is the momentum we had built up and the form and full fitness of some players. It's going to be tough to win the league but in terms of squad on a player by player basis, it's better now than it was when we won week in week out until the rest of the league had given up.

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13 Aug 2021 05:49:58
Think Shaq had an excellent Euro's comp n if he stays then I'm ok with that. He's worth more than Lyon are offering for sure.

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13 Aug 2021 06:34:19
Just to step in. Firstly agree that Renato is neither wanted or good enough. Secondly to reply toThe Natural. The list of midfielders is easy to pick apart. Unfortunately. Hendo is possibly my favourite captain ever. But, he gives so much that he doesn’t play a full season. Add to injury list going by recent history, Ox, Keita, Fab and Thiago. Jones is already injured to miss first month of the season, before match fitness is added. Elliott is just 18. Amazing, but to put a full season of first team starts across 4 comps is a bit harsh.
I just mentioned 4 competitions. So we’d like to compete across all 4 I’m guessing? 60 games? 70? I’ve not looked into, but it’s a lot. Gini was always available. Not suggesting we can sign a player and guarantee fitness but to also suggest we don’t need anyone due to numbers isn’t right either. Out midfield is made of crocks, due to commitment and bad luck, I’d love all to stay fit and Keita to have a season like his preseasons. Add Woodburn to this.
But we do need someone like we needed another CB although you can list ours before Konate and say enough or too many. A midfielder who can be a starter like Saul, can be a first step to replace Hendo, can cover Fab and replace the underrated Gini work. Certainly needed.

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13 Aug 2021 07:59:01
Jones had a minor concussion which is a fairly rare injury the game. He won’t be out for a month and -according to Juergen yesterday - he has already recovered but had to follow the protocols.

It also seems that Sanches is wanted and considered good enough, at least by the manager. Just saying.

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13 Aug 2021 09:18:59
Everyone it’s Sanches with a ‘s’ - don't know why this is annoying me so much but it is.

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13 Aug 2021 09:24:32
What’s to say if gini stayed he wouldn’t be injured? Just because he has a great record? Vvd played a lot of games before his injury and it’s possible that rs comes in and has a full season, it’s all if and buts .

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13 Aug 2021 09:27:31
Me too, Big Virg! Think of “sandwiches” without the “dwi” 😉😂.

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13 Aug 2021 11:49:36
Zed. A friendly suggestion. Avoid the constant repetition. You're beginning to sound like that guy who shall remain "un-named". We got it the first time. Surely, you're not emptied out of new material? 😜.

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13 Aug 2021 12:48:07
why are we prioritizing the spelling so much? we need to recognize this isn't a big deal. ;)

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13 Aug 2021 14:25:37
I thought you didn't like comedy, Ra, and bemoaned the fact that it clogged up the boards? And now you're contributing to the clogging!

Move along the bus, young Ra, nothing to see here.

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13 Aug 2021 17:28:31
Sauls coming anyway lads. nailed on.

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13 Aug 2021 19:07:45
Am I the only one who sees the raw talent that renato sanches has? I am certain if we signed him Klop will get the best from the kid.

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{Ed025's Note - i think you are you know mate..

14 Aug 2021 08:52:26
Realistically saul was never on the cards, we don't pay them kind of wages. Sancho has always had the potential to be special but never seemed to progress. Working under klopp could be perfect for him and one thing I will say is how do all you lot not have trust in our transfer system. Its changed our team massively.

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12 Aug 2021 07:43:52
Is Shaq on his way to Lyon? I heard issue is difference of 2M Euros in valuation.
Surely can be met between

All the best to him if he leaves. gave us some good moments and frees up a squad place.

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12 Aug 2021 09:06:35
I couldn't believe the club had gone down to a final price of 8 million Euros. For a player with 96 caps and that magic left wand of a foot? Granted he didn't play often for us, but there's no questioning the skill and talent.

And then I said to myself, it's either take the 8 million now and use the money to grow the future, or get nothing next summer when he walks away for free. The Wijnaldum lesson has been learnt well.

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12 Aug 2021 09:21:13
He’s had a lot of injury issues and at 29 there’s a lot of risk on the buying club, so it’s understandable that they’d make a lower offer.

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12 Aug 2021 09:32:30
I also think his public flirtation with Lazio has angered the club. So they said, get rid at the best price possible. He's done this (angered the club) everywhere he's gone in the past.

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12 Aug 2021 09:36:43
And CV.

I did wonder whether Shaq may be part of a deal for Aouar, but obvs not.

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12 Aug 2021 09:38:23
I think it’s a good fee for player that’s injured a lot and hasn’t set the world a light
Here . wish him well.

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12 Aug 2021 09:53:48
Its a miracle lyon can pay 6million even.

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12 Aug 2021 10:09:11
He holds one of the none HG spots as well as big wages so I think its a good move, We only paid £13m or so for him. So with C.V. his injury record over the last 2 season his age it's not a bad deal. He wants out to play more and that is not going to happen here and with the stage of his career you can't blame him.

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12 Aug 2021 10:44:48
Although he's agreed on terms with them he will not be sold unless OL increases their offer of €6m with add-ons. We apparently want another €2m but I think a set of add-ons that'll take it realistically up might do the job. He has his heart set on moving to OL. I honestly thought he had his heart set on Lazio two weeks ago. Good luck to him wherever he ends up as even he can see that Elliot will play his former role this coming year.

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12 Aug 2021 12:14:52
In this market, if Grealish is a 100mm and Shaqiri is 6m. The world has gone bonkers.

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12 Aug 2021 12:39:33
The transfer market values aren't driven by talent, rather they're driven by how much a team wants a player.

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12 Aug 2021 12:49:29
As well as so many other factors like age, past record, length of contract, injury record etc etc.

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12 Aug 2021 13:41:52
I love Big Shaq but sadly he wasn't used more than I'd like. So, its probably time to bid farewell and that's probably the best for both club and player. I wish him all the best, wherever he ends up. He'll still be part of the Liverpool family and history.

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12 Aug 2021 13:49:02
I'd rather keep him than spend £40+ on Sanchez. I mean, Is Sanchez (assuming that's who we're going for) really that much better with all things considered? I'd rather the club utilised the squad for this season and saved up for next year or when we can afford our number one targets. Shaq is not that bad a player, but Keita would be the first out the door for me.

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12 Aug 2021 17:25:08
I have never liked her music she is married to Gerard Piqué :-)

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