12 Aug 2017 23:38:54
Shearer hit the nail on the head we need a leader in defence who can push and pull players into position.
The spine of the team needs rebuilding starting from defence and get some winners in that team who are mentally strong.
Also get shut of coutinho let him go no player is bigger than our club.
13 Aug 2017 00:01:09
Reina, Hyppia, Alonso, Gerrard and Torres was the last time we had a real strong spine to the team. Never replaced that spine since and no wonder why success went downhill from those days.
13 Aug 2017 01:27:21
Great spine! And we won what with that exact spine?
13 Aug 2017 01:30:08
WHO DO YOU WANT TO SIGN?
Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Jeremy Corbin?
If you don't put suggestions the post is worthless.
13 Aug 2017 01:50:56
We're white a small team Ayr. Plus the guys we have a white mentally weak I rekon. At set piece time we've typically just got the 2 CBd and maybe Can who can offer a presence in the box. The others whilst small also play small and often at the worst possible times. What do others think?
13 Aug 2017 01:56:18
Always one to ruin a post.
13 Aug 2017 04:36:47
Ron do you want the whole world to be positive and happy regardless how stupid Klopp and managment team are? if one can't make changes to things even a blind man can see, then we as fan can't even morn or complain. I am rarely the one to complain on this website and had a lot of hope in Klopp but i feel he is BR 2.0 same mistakes same atitude of buying only pacy attacking players and can't address out leaking defence. sorry to call on you Ron, i respect your opinion but i think its enough with all the positivity and we all as suppporters deserve to be heard.
{Ed001's Note - buying only pacy attacking players? You mean like Robertson, Klavan, Karius, Manninger or Matip? I think you should stop looking at it all negative and try and see a balanced view before calling out others!}
13 Aug 2017 04:59:53
Oh dear, sorry should be saying quite not white! Sorry if that came across wrong! Also ya only deserved to be heard if ya going to be helpful. But spouting nonsense band baseless drivel deserves to be called out.
13 Aug 2017 06:34:39
Crazy horse: I respect everyone's opinion. I've read from several people the same thing. I agree with the premis that we need "leaders" but who do you want?
They don't grow on trees otherwise someone would suggest a leader we could sign.
At least MK gave some suggestions but I personally don't think Ben Gibson is that man to lead our team. Many times last season he looked totally lost positionally.
These leaders need to be worth their position in the team otherwise they have no authority or respect from their team mates. I'm not always 100% positive. How many times have you read me post "we've never replaced Hyypia". He is the last real leader we've had in our team in my opinion. Gerrard was an inspirational captain, but Hyypia was a leader.
13 Aug 2017 06:59:10
@Ron
Since Hyypia.
Carra? Suarez?
Both leaders and both winners. You forgot them. Just saying.
13 Aug 2017 07:11:26
Toby Aldervield.
13 Aug 2017 07:20:42
Yeah the type of players we're all craving are tough to find. We need a vocal organiser at the back. Someone who will continue to bark instructions even when he's personally not playing great. The guy needs to naturally command the respect of others and be a steady 7/ 10 most games. Personally I'd take bravery over playing out from the back. Keep things simple - win the ball, command the back line and give the ball to others - easy. Row Z when required. If we lose Coutinho the money needs to be spent on a centre half. Does Virgil VD fit the bill? Also, pet hate of mine is zonal marking. It's too easy to hide using zonal marking and to blame others. Keep a pacy presence on the halfway line for long clearances and man mark with men on posts.
{Ed001's Note - men on the posts is zonal marking.....}
13 Aug 2017 08:21:47
Men on the posts was just called 'the basics' when I was playing Ed!
{Ed001's Note - it still is, but it is a form of zonal marking.}
13 Aug 2017 09:24:48
Sanchez of Ajax strikes me as being s leader and organiser
If we can't get VVD I would try for this CB.
13 Aug 2017 10:16:04
Inigo Martinez for 30 odd million?
13 Aug 2017 11:15:44
There is plenty of players out there who could be a missing Vertebrae to our spine, but unfortunately;
1) many we won’t even look at them because of our playing style which they won’t fit into.
2) most are at teams bigger than LFC who would never sell or the player wouldn’t be interested in joining us.
@Ron, it’s hard to actually pick anybody out for the 2 reasons I said above, and at the end of the day there is no point in us suggesting any signings on here is there? Klopp and Co won’t read it.
13 Aug 2017 14:28:10
Phil, by pointing out the lack of available players it might give some of the harshest critics some perspective about why Klopp hasn't signed players of that ilk.
Where I will criticise Klopp is him giving new long-term contracts to Lovren and Mignolet. That was pure stupidity on his part.
13 Aug 2017 14:47:12
Red Phil talks sense. The way we play, it's not about a "spine" it's aBout a platform for the attacking players. Personally I take a lot of positives from watford game. I think salah, mane, and firminio is the most dangerous forward line in the league and I have no idea how someone would defend against it bar physically battering our guys. They all scored and I think they will score more than any other attacking unit this year.
We didn't lose did we? And the last watford goal should never have been given. It was an away draw. We showed real heart to come back from 1.0 and 2.1. We showed we can still rip up opposition defenses without pc. I don't understand the gloom. I do understand people's frustration with defence at set pieces but I think vvd will have the intelligence to position our guys properly and take charge back there. It won't happen instantly. Think selling lucas was a mistake and would have been a better sub than Milner.
13 Aug 2017 14:53:25
Oi oi pompey red, live in portsmouth these days. Ed is right mate but I know what you mean, we had no one on the front post at corners did we? If we did that cross for the second would have been easily dealt with. I'm so torn on our style. I love watching us play out and pass freely but I prefer ed watching us win 1.0 under rafa.
13 Aug 2017 15:20:49
what about giving Sturridge a big pay rise when he was out injured, Klopp is many things, some good, some not so good, he is stubbern, slow to learn and the way he dealt with Sacko was down right stupid, yes Sacko was out of order, but just deal with him, don't lose him .
13 Aug 2017 15:59:21
Sadly I agree with you red forever. Sahko would have that defence more cohesive. I like our style of football bug our dealings in the transfer market are piss poor. Everyone talks like we are stoke or watford "who wants to sign for us? " We are Liverpool. One of elite clubs in the world. Amazing facilities and coaching staff. I don't buy the "people don't wanna play for us" argument.
13 Aug 2017 16:57:54
" We are Liverpool. One of elite clubs in the world. Amazing facilities and coaching staff. "
We are Liverpool, one champions league appearance in 7 years, one trophy in 10 years and where players come to deteriorate, top players can't wait to leave and young players toss their careers away"
It's not hard to work out.
13 Aug 2017 18:16:28
Last season pc scored and Hendo ran over to celebrate with him and Phil couldn't look him in the eye. coz his heart was already elsewhere. I think that was in 2016. Being on this end of things I don't understand how
13 Aug 2017 23:14:24
I think people obsess with idea defence is the place to make the solution but in reality the other sides competing for top 4 have some flakey defenders. In most cases they get around it cos they hassle and scare other teams. Liverpool hassle but not as efficiently but do not scare anyone. I think all the "weaker" teams fancy beating Liverpool but don't fancy it against the other top sides. The fact they know they can shut up shop and nick a goal is a major problem. If teams worried that they couldn't contain Liverpool theyd possibly be less sur e about attacking the weak areas.
14 Aug 2017 15:35:50
I disagree detailslockrd. I think our attack frightens defences possibly more than anyone. Especially this season. That is why they sit their whole team behind the ball.
{Ed002's Note - He is not on the surplus list but the clubs interested in him have had little luck getting Barcelona to talk. Liverpool has shown no interest to date.}