Liverpool Rumours Archive July 11 2018

11 Jul 2018 19:11:16
Liverpool not interested in Butland after all no movement at all on that one given they are talking to Stoke already regarding one of their players if there was interest surly logic would suggest another would also be spoken of.

Given Klopps reaction to the media today questioning Karius I firmly believe he will be our num 1 this season. He will have my full support and any cretin that abuses a player doesn't deserve to watch any of the players play in the shirt. Shame on them.

11 Jul 2018 19:48:08
Isn't butland at the world cup? I wouldn't think there would be any talk of him until afterwards IMO.

11 Jul 2018 20:26:30
His agent isn’t.

11 Jul 2018 22:34:44
nor is anybody elses but no players been signed mid WC.

12 Jul 2018 07:31:10
Butland makes so many handling errors. Just don't see him as a significant improvement over what we have at the club and klopp looks to be backing Karius as our number 1.

12 Jul 2018 09:42:14
I'd love to see Ward get games, is there something that Klopp doesn't like about him? some aspect of his game for example?
Made some great saves from when i've watched him. And at the end of the day how many chances do you give Karius, got to wonder if his mentality is gone! can't be easy.

12 Jul 2018 19:16:01
Interesting this stuff about Ward. Haven't seen much of him, but what I saw made me think he is better on crosses tha Ming and Kar, looked calmer too. Decent shot stopper aswell. How is his distribution and feet?

11 Jul 2018 11:13:01
Hi Eds, Is there any truth in the reported interest in Gini Wijnaldum?

{Ed001's Note - there is interest in him, yes.}

11 Jul 2018 11:52:25
Do you know if he's looking to leave ed01?

{Ed001's Note - it is a possibility, though he is not forcing a move or anything. It is one of those moments where he wants to know how Klopp sees him being used before he makes a decision.}

11 Jul 2018 11:57:30
There must be a few players thinking the same in midfield at the moment with all the new additions and the possiblily of Fekir or similar coming in too. 3 new mids our captain for 3 places plus utility players like the ox, I’ve no idea where wij, Lallana, Milner etc would see themselves, this stage of their careers need to be playing more regular.

11 Jul 2018 12:00:36
Thanks for the reply mate, it would be a shame to see him leave as I think we still need him this season.

I do believe though that this will be his last season if he does stay.

11 Jul 2018 12:51:20
Fernabache looking him. He's been offered to someone else but they don't want him. Looks like he'll go. I mentioned this a week ago.

10 Jul 2018 23:44:20
Quite a lot of media outlets tonight reporting lfc have opened talks with stoke about signing Shaqiri, 12-14m being touted. Not sure how true it is, can any of the Ed's shed any light on this rumour.

{Ed002's Note - It seems reasonable.}

11 Jul 2018 08:39:38
Oh god no.

11 Jul 2018 09:07:54
Ergh. bad call, ill get behind him if it is the case, but when fifa19 comes out he's going straight away.

11 Jul 2018 09:29:05
Absolute solid deal. Can't really go wrong. Gives Wilson a year of a loan, gives us solid cover and potentially another Robertson or chambo that could surprise us.

If not west ham or someone will take him off us next year for about 20 mil.

11 Jul 2018 09:24:50
I remember people saying oh god no when Ox signed.
I would rather we went all out to get a great keeper though, surely that’s the position that requires reinforcing more than any other. I worry that Karius will be a noose around klopps neck.

11 Jul 2018 09:38:43
Think he’d be a good option for the bench and would provide better cover than Wilson ojo etc because of his experience. I think he’ll improve under Klopp. Plus he seemed to do well in the World Cup.

11 Jul 2018 09:39:21
Kloppsboss, solid deal? please tell me you're joking? can't go wrong? I think you'll find if we sign him quite a lot could go wrong mate.

11 Jul 2018 10:02:41
I do not think Shaqiri will be another Robertson or Chamberlain who will suprise us. The difference with Shaqiri is that he has a terrible attitude which could have a negative effect on the rest of the squad.
Lazy and trouble everywhere he has played, but we expect him to change if he comes to Liverpool.

11 Jul 2018 10:07:13
12- 14 mill what a snip of a deal he'd be decent cover In my opinion.

11 Jul 2018 10:32:20
I don't know what to make of the Shaqiri deal, he seems a lazy got with a big ego who doesn't seem to want to do the dirtier side if a game. Basically everything klopp doesn't like in a player. So seems strange deal if you ask me. He is talented when he wants so maybe klopp likes a challenge of tapping into that and thinks 13m seems like a low risk? I think Brendan Rodgers can testify that a leopard doesn't change it's spots (balotelli) and would maybe go back in time and go for a player more suited to his style management instead of trying to tap into his talent.

11 Jul 2018 10:43:05
Hasn’t even kicked a ball and he’s getting slated! going on about his attitude etc as if u know him! Who says it all won’t change if he signs for us! Like ox and robbo give him a chance! He’s more medals then probably all our team!

11 Jul 2018 10:48:40
His attitude concerns me but his ability does not. If he decides sulk at lfc then he’ll soon find himself on the periphery.

Hope he proves everyone wrong if he does sign.

11 Jul 2018 10:52:26
Considering mahrez went for 60 odd it's a good deal for me. Not saying he's better than mahrez but he's not far behind at all on his day.

11 Jul 2018 10:59:41
Gud signing at that price, totally agree with Kloppsboss.

11 Jul 2018 11:04:38
I'm okay with this acquisition. Much better cover for Mane and Salah than Ox or Lallana. good players but Neither are competent wingers.

11 Jul 2018 11:25:41
i believe Shaquiri is crying out for a manager like Klopp and a stage like Liverpool. we will see him at his best i think. very shrewd signing if it goes ahead.

11 Jul 2018 11:33:38
Put it into perspective. We sold Ibe a few years ago for £15 million. The market has inflated since that time, Shaqiri is a Champions League winner, a multiple championship winner in 2 different countries, has over 70 national caps, and he's only 26, and oh he's only costing £12m. If he was coming direct from Bayern or Inter people on here be creaming themselves about the deal. Let's not kid ourselves he's not going to start, but look at our bench, we have no quality attacking cover, shaqiri can play wide and central, and look what happened when salah went off against Real, we fell apart because we had to change system. And Klopp does his reaearch into all his signings, so i doubt his "attutude" issue is as big as being made out or he wouldn't be joining. But anyways at 12m it's all relatively low risk.

11 Jul 2018 11:36:15
Salah like What?

Absolutely no way a 27 year international winger, with potentially champions league experience, from liverpool goes for anything less than 20 million in today's market.

West ham, Leicester, Roma, Dortmund, secilla, Valencia, Newcastle. Just a few that would defiantly be interested and are now if not for us being interested.

Aside from that, well, he might actually do well and for 12 million in today's prices what would be a reasonable return. 10 goals and 10 assists or is that pushing it. In our team, the way we attack!

Your just worried because someone we all respect in 001 has pointed out that he isn't the biggest fan. Well 001 would agree that he has had some doubt over attitude in a few players and been surprised and has concerns over our marquee keitas attitude. Also vvd and manes attitude where questioned.

Let's just see what klopp can do. if the boy reacts to finally being in a top set up, with a loving manager, in a very attacking team and thrives.

11 Jul 2018 11:53:03
I fully agree Kloppsboss, I think at the price it's is a good deal and Klopp will get the best out of him.

11 Jul 2018 12:07:41
Why is no one asking the obvious question? Why is Shaqiri available for only 12-14m? Nearly all players go for at least slightly more than their worth in the current market. So if he is available for that much it must be because no one else in interested in signing him.

Also I would seriously question the logic of bringing in a player "for cover" who has a notorious bad attitude especially when he isn't first choice. Surely its obvious that it will end badly.

Also he is known for being lazy and he lacks drive to do the defensive work, how will that fit into Klopps system?

11 Jul 2018 12:27:06
Shappy, you hit the nail on the head there mate.

Kloppsboss 'Your just worried because someone we all respect in 001 has pointed out that he isn't the biggest fan. ' what are you bringing Ed1 into it for? I have my own opinion of Shaqiri thank you mate.

Shaqiri is a fool to himself and worse to his team mates, he thinks he's gods gift. How will he react been on the bench most of the time? he will cause hassle and act like a teenager. Nevermind all of this Klopp will get the best out of him business and he will change him etc, I don't buy it one bit. I think if we sign him it'll be a huge mistake but I will reluctantly support him as I would any incoming Liverpool player.

How long are people going to use the Ox and Robbo as an example? it's got nothing to do with them, they're completely different players and never had the attitude like this lazy, arrogant turd has.

He will disrupt the dressing room and prove to be an absolute failure imo. I'm not saying this stuff because Ed1 has a similar opinion, I'm saying it because anybody who has seen Shaqiri play enough knows this stuff and I have seen plenty of him, enough to know he's the opposite of what Liverpool currently have, we have a team full of passionate team members who would do anything for the squad to win, not many are lazy. Yet you want Shaqiri in? everybody is entitled to their own opinion but I think this would be a huge mistake. Let's hope I'm proved wrong.

11 Jul 2018 12:29:39
For the price and a bit of Klopp magic in his ear I think its a sound signing.

11 Jul 2018 12:36:53
Shappy. He is that price because he has been relegated, stoke are looking rid of his wage, which i imagine would be high for a mid table premier league club let alone a Championship one, the player also wants to leave, and has told Stoke he only wants to go to Liverpool. This is why no one else is interested and this is why we will get him for 12m. Also i believe he has a relegation release clause but am not aware at what that is set at.

{Ed001's Note - he has never said he only wants to join Liverpool.}

11 Jul 2018 12:38:04
I think you’ll find the price is down to a relegation release clause.

11 Jul 2018 12:38:13
Agreed KB. Although im 100% sure that Salah is on the wind up. Shaqiri for that money is a no brainer and I am confident that Klopp will eek out improvement in attitude and consistency. Worst case scenario is it doesn't work out and we sell at a profit. I shall mark Salah's post and remind him of his rather short sighted comments when we see the outcome of which I am confident will be a psoitive one for club and player. YNWA.

11 Jul 2018 12:41:31
He's going for that price dude because he has a relegation release clause or he would be stleast 20 million.

It's not just Robertson and the ox

It's Trent, Henderson, Lovren, Milner, mane, bobby, lallaba. all of them have had question marks and klopp gave them an arena to play.

There is nothing that can go that bad with this transfer, it's a no brainer. End of.

11 Jul 2018 12:50:22
Brandt New, please do, I look forward to it mate.

11 Jul 2018 13:09:06
I second that brandt lad. We shall show Salah the way.

11 Jul 2018 13:40:46
We all hoped Balotelli would change ( including me) how did that end up.

11 Jul 2018 13:45:31
I think we just have to wait and see guys. I'm not overly impressed with his career to date, but if he becomes a Liverpool player, he'll have my full support until he proves that support is unwarranted.

Don't think it's a financially risky deal (assuming a decent resale value if things don't work out), I can't see the club taking the risk if they think he's doomed to failure, and there is a player in there no doubt. It could turn out badly, but since nobody has ever seen "Shaqiri the Liverpool player" play, I don't see the point in getting upset about this transfer.

He'll prove one set of fans wrong one way or another, and for the sake of LFC, I hope it's the ones who don't want him.

11 Jul 2018 14:02:36
I’m sure Klopp will mention the work required at this club. And if he doesn’t go along/ agree with this then we either won’t sign him, he won’t play or he won’t be on the bench, so I don’t see what the big whoop is. Let’s give he lad a chance eh he hasn’t even signed yet.

11 Jul 2018 14:08:42
Shaqiri looks like the middle stage transformation of Bruce Banner to the Incredible Hulk and the brains of the latter. If he signs for LFC and smashes his role I will the first to put my hands up. But, I will be cynical until proven otherwise.

{Ed002's Note - Put your hands up where?}

11 Jul 2018 14:23:23
What the fudge. The other week nobody on here wanted him AT ALL! Everybody slated his attitude and now everybody seems to want him and are down voting negative comments and arguing with people who don't want him like Salah xD

What changed? Was it seeing him topless and realizing he is fat muscly and not just fat? xD

I still don’t think he is the right fit.

{Ed002's Note - He is if it is a big enough hole.}

11 Jul 2018 14:31:16
😂 Ed002 I will rise to your wager. If Shaqiri signs. and smashes the season. I will put my right hand and Salah’s left hand up my palare pipe.
@Salah - sorry but you’re in this with me whether you like it or not.

11 Jul 2018 14:52:46
Good one ed2, that made me chuckle a bit louder than I thought I would xD.

11 Jul 2018 14:42:03
Think of it this way, Jordan Ibe cost 15 million. Shaqiri will be a squad player and if he turns it on will be first team its a win win if he's poop he will get sold for 12 mill minimum. he's good just needs up his work rate which I'm sure will be discussed before being signed. Good squad player for 12 million for sure.

11 Jul 2018 15:39:56
Lol Paulinho, I was thinking the same earlier mate, it's hilarious how quick peoples minds have changed about him. This just proves their lack of knowledge about the player imo mate, some have probably never seen him play apart from when he's played us, youtube clips and WC performances. I do think you hit the nail on the head there though mate, the way kloppsboss is going on I think he'll already have a poster of Shaqiri topless stuck to his ceiling.

Hahaha brilliant ed2/ unclebens.

11 Jul 2018 16:22:57
So we can't get everyone we want. I can see the Shaqiri deal freeing up funds toward a high end goalkeeper. Fine by me if that is the case. Rather have Shaqiri and Strakosha than say Gelson Martines and Cillessen.

11 Jul 2018 16:56:52
SALAH, I respect you as a poster and often agree with your posts.

I do however think on this occasion I disagree. I think Shaqiri could be a good signing at the price (similiaer to what Jordan Ibe was sold for a few seasons back! ) and I also think the Robertson and AOC and Mane examples are relevant actually, in that it proves fans don’t always know better than the manager and often aren’t close enough to the players or data to understand what the managers and scouts see in the players to nurture.

Don’t get me wrong, i won’t be upset if Shaqiri doesn’t sign, but I would see it as a good deal if JK signed him at this sort of price.

11 Jul 2018 16:25:07
Think he’s signing as competition for karius. In which case he starts 😉.

11 Jul 2018 17:13:02
Cheers NK and a fair post by you. We obviously have different opinions on this one mate but again, a fair post.

11 Jul 2018 18:21:11
Who's this Paulinho you speak of Salah! Haha.

11 Jul 2018 18:52:00
Hahaha apologies mate, god knows how it came out as Paulinho lol.

12 Jul 2018 07:18:53
No worries blame autocorrect, but make sure the eds don’t change it to "fat fingers" xD.