07 Aug 2021 13:25:14
Why has everyone literally written LFC off this year already? Are Man City stronger? I’d say no. Man U have Ollie at the wheel Chelsea look good but are they better than us? We need two players to be odds on to win the league myself. 2022 there is a major overhaul planned but i can’t see it being half the squad leaving just add to the midfield and where good for this season.

{Ed0666's Note - i Agree mate if we add 2 players midfield and forward and they assimilate fast then we are in my mind champions. If we don’t get those players we’ll be vying for top 4. Do we have to buy can’t we loan for a season? With the economic climate as it is I’m sure some teams would like to get some wages off their bill?

1.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 13:43:37
Just over 3 weeks to go before the window closes…. There's time but I’m not sure we’ll add more to the squad.

2.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 14:10:02
Andyjh04 I admire your optimism mate but imo both City and Utd are stronger than last season especially if City add Kane. Chelsea have done well and will no doubt get Lukaku also. We have a good squad but going into the season still with centre halves injured and our back up to the front 3 players are still Shapiri, Origi and Elliott. Copper that to the other 3’s options and you have to say they are stronger. I believe we will get top 4 but not much more than that unless we make moves in the next week.

3.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 14:10:44
Literally everyone? It is much nearer 50-50 on this page. We only need one more quality signing to win the league imo it has to be in midfield where we strengthen. FSG has never let us down over transfers we will 100% buy 1 or 2 more players.

4.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 14:36:22
Do Man City need to get any stronger, even tho I think they will.

Ole was at the wheel when they came 2nd last year.

Chelsea, the current CL holders who definitely got better under Tuchel and who will no doubt reinforce

Perspective is always required, but I still think we will do well injuries avoided and form maintained. We have a great 15/ 16 group of players.

5.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 14:41:59
I don’t get it either. Think some people are forgetting just how strong our team is because of the injury plagued season we just had.

{Ed025's Note - injuries is an excuse not a reason alonso, all teams get them and it only effects you if your squad depth is problematic mate..

6.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 14:44:15
I agree with the majority
They don’t have to say it but the lfc owners decision makers have written off this season and are looking to 2022z it’s clear and obvious
And it seems they have given the manager nothing but try your best
Yes the other teams have made their squad better I just think it’s too difficult for Liverpool to maintain the first 11 all season
Fabinho
Matip
Keita
Hendo
Milner
Ox
The usual
Suspects will get injured during the season and we lost gini the 1 midfielder who is always available

How can the fans be optimistic! It’s very difficult
I think the fans just want the first team to have some help - but “quality help.

Anyway I’m not excited for this season to be honest - but I support them either way.

7.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 14:58:59
Is there any possibility that LFC will accept offer for origi, shaqiri, nat phillips below the price tag and FSG as the owner will inject share holder loan to add funds for Klopp to get players like we have always discussed together here 1 CM and 1 versatile forward. With the condition stadium has been expanded, the fans are available go to the stadium, FSG should not be worried the share holder loan will get repaid. Hopefully FSG has the same view that under Klopp is the best chances for LFC to leap frog Man Utd's EPL trophies collection.

8.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 15:06:49
We squeezed into the top 4 last season and so far have only added a centre back, that does not feel like we have improved our team or squad enough. Midfield is key and if we do not replace Gini we are gambling that we will get fortunate with injuries - as last season showed if we don’t get lucky we can be found sorely lacking. There is time for deals to happen but the noises being made suggest this is becoming less likely.

9.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 15:07:48
This team as it is now can challenge for the title. Obviously a couple of new players would help but let’s not forget all of the problems we had last season, and we still finished third. We were top at Christmas and had the best record over the last 10 games. The season before City virtually collapsed after losing Laporte for about 15 games, we lost Van Dijk and Gomez for almost all of the season. Plus the supporters are back at Anfield, does anyone seriously believe we would have lost 6 games in a row at home if Anfield had fans inside it?

{Ed025's Note - did you lose VVD and gomez thunderbird? i did not hear anyone mention that mate.. :)

10.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 15:20:57
Sorry guys but city have a lot of players who want out is grealish better than David silva or any of the players city lost? Is Kane better than Ageuro? I’m not sure I see the major issue here, we got top 3 with no defence last year 2 players in midfield for me means we are right up there even if we sign 1 I think we have an almighty chance. Any one who says Man U are stronger are deluded. Chelsea will be the big challengers this year other than us.

11.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 15:26:24
Mark - FSG have never let us down with transfers? What are you smoking over there?

12.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 15:06:55
Ed25, go tell that to the City fans (who’s team has the deepest squad in the PL) who blamed their title collapse to the one CB they lost to injury for just 4 months while we lost all 3 starting CB’s for the season, Hendo for the final 3 months of the season, Thiago we nearly lost for the season and lost Jota for 3 months. Yeah, injury is clearly not a reason when this is all you have to deal with (eye roll) .

{Ed025's Note - what a bunch of whingers you really are, every team gets injuries oli its part and parcel of the game, its how you deal with it that counts...grow a set will you ffs..

13.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 13:57:06
3 weeks is a long time in football. We didn’t sign Thiago or Jota til the season had started last year so i can see a similar situation playing out. Its still yet to really reach the business end of the window and plenty of moves are still yet to be made. I think as soon as Shaqiri leaves we’ll see us move for someone, whether it’ll be a forward or a midfielder only time will tell. In any instance i think it’ll be Bowen and Bissouma and i completely agree Ed0666, those two players would reinvigorate an already very good squad and push us on towards the top honours.

{Ed0666's Note - let’s hope it’s Rapinha or David instead of Bowen. The aforementioned would be my top 2 choices.
I’m 99% sure Raphinha won’t happen tho. David won’t come cheap either as he was bought for 25 million and just one the title at Lille scoring 13 goals I think. Even tho the French league is broke I’m sure Lille would a) want to sell him at a profit b) want a nice amount of money in advance and not a repayment plan spanning a number of years c) wanna keep hold of a talent like that d) is he really a klopp type attacker as he’s more of a forward than playing across the front 3 positions? Although he played wide for Genk I think? Anyway all will be revealed in the next few days,..my worst nightmare is we can’t sell any of the boys that are surplus and we end up signing no one else 😱😭

14.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 15:06:43
ed0666 that's a great point do you think A Madrid would take a loan with option to buy Saul would get his massive wages of there bill for a season.

{Ed0666's Note - I’m pretty sure the only way it could and would happen is a loan with you have to buy not an option to buy after the loan like what Spurs have done with Romero. Even then his wages are excessive I don’t think it’s a go unfortunately. Even if we sell Shaq, Origi and Taki do their wages amount to Saul’s? I do believe a loan with obligation to buy is the way forward as I think helps soften the financial aspect of the transfer which is appealing.

15.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 16:14:48
Let know when they haven't provided the players needed IPC. I was 50-50 on FSG but they brought in Klopp and after a season it was evident we needed 2 or 3 players of top quality. I wanted them to go all in I said so on these pages knowing full well that we would then have to sell to buy for a couple of seasons. Allison, VVD, Fabs came in for £200m and it transformed us.

Even last year we were skint but still bought 3 players. This year we paid £36m cash for the best young cb that was available. We now need a midfielder and I am very confident one will be purchased. If its not i will gladly have a whinge with you when the window closes. I do though have more faith in Keita than 995 of posters on here, there is a top player hidden in there somewhere.

16.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 16:23:39
Come off it Ed025, no team in the history of football could have coped with the circumstances we did last season. All the centre backs were out for the season, which forced us to take midfielders out of midfield to fill in the holes thus decimating that area of the pitch too. That then means that because of smaller pool of players and instability in the team you can’t rotate at all in the most congested season in history. When you compound all of that with no proper pre season, no fans, players contracting C.V. and personal tragedies across the board, it’s no surprise the football suffered immensely. It probably wasn’t close to being the first thing on their minds. Nobody is saying no other team had to deal with the conditions of the C.V. but no other team had it as bad as we did. A strong, positive mindset is everything in football and it isn’t hard to see how the team would have fallen into state of helplessness and malaise based on all that.

I fail to see how us feeling a lot more optimistic for this season, knowing we won’t have to deal with any of that anymore, somehow makes us the whingers. I’d say quite the opposite. Constantly trying to shout down our very reasonable positive projections probably says more about the Evertonian capacity for whinging more than anything else. I do get it though, if i were in your shoes i’d probably be afraid of us winning more trophies as well.

17.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 16:33:23
Genuinely think we’re one top class midfielder away from being able to be a consistent competitor for the league. Bring in someone like Saul or Bissouma and we’re as good as sorted.

18.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 16:38:12
Ahh Jesus lad's are we still going on about the injuries from LAST SEASON🤦‍♂️.

19.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 16:23:39
Come off it Ed025, no team in the history of football could have coped with the circumstances we did last season. All the centre backs were out for the season, which forced us to take midfielders out of midfield to fill in the holes thus decimating that area of the pitch too. That then means that because of smaller pool of players and instability in the team you can’t rotate at all in the most congested season in history. When you compound all of that with no proper pre season, no fans, players contracting C.V. and personal tragedies across the board, it’s no surprise the football suffered immensely. It probably wasn’t close to being the first thing on their minds. Nobody is saying no other team had to deal with the conditions of the C.V. but no other team had it as bad as we did. A strong, positive mindset is everything in football and it isn’t hard to see how the team would have fallen into state of helplessness and malaise based on all that.

I fail to see how us feeling a lot more optimistic for this season, knowing we won’t have to deal with any of that anymore, somehow makes us the whingers. I’d say quite the opposite. Constantly trying to shout down our very reasonable positive projections probably says more about the Evertonian capacity for whinging more than anything else. I do get it though, if i were in your shoes i’d probably be afraid of us winning more trophies as well.

{Ed025's Note - you lot absolutely amaze me you really do AW, you had back up centre halves but because they are crap you expect us to feel sorry for you?, seems like corona virus affected you more than anyone else as well and now you are tugging on the heartstrings by playing the bereavement card!!
All teams face adversity at one point or another during the season mate and its how you deal with it, the fact you folded like a cheap deckchair says a lot about your players character..boo hoo..

20.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 17:09:08
Not really sure what you’re taking issue with here Ed25. All that has been said is we were handed an extremely challenging season with a number of injuries, including 3 CB’s for nearly the whole season. You can keep saying every team gets them all you like. The fact is very very few gets three in one position. Either you’re being deliberately obtuse, or can’t see it was obviously a problem that would cripple any side. United lost maguire and had a terrible time at the end of the season, there’s no team in the league that has strong enough 4th and 5th choice CB’s to perform at their best. As for “folding like a cheap deckchair”, we finished 3rd, hardly a disaster season.

{Ed025's Note - i never said it was a disaster TSR, you are the ones bemoaning your season mate not me..

21.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 17:10:55
I think we will sign Saul. We have to only sell some players and we are waiting for cash injection from sales of shaq, origi and unfortunately philips. All three transfer money + wages combined should in theory sort out saul.
As for attacker i think minamino is staying put and we have jota. Klopp doesn't really rotate mane and salah much and they don't really like missing games either. For bobby we got jota and minamino who can come in which seems more than enough. Of course if need be they can rotate with salah and mane.

Am not a fan of raphinha or david or anyone else we are thinking of and i just don't see how these players will get minutes ahead of bobby salah and mane and therefore unless we sell one of them not sure why any player in their right mind would consider joining us when they know playing time will be at a premium and we already have players above them in pecking order and
I haven't even mentioned the likes of ox and elliot yet who will also play some roles and then if need be we got jones who can play an attacking role.
To be fairly honest i don't see the space for a new attacker. I just don't see how he gets any minutes and nobody will come to just play in fa cup and a odd start here and there. Even if they do it doesn't make financial sense for the club this year. Now if we were selling ox and minamino, then there is a case. But that doesn't seem likely.
Gini has left a gap and we will fill that and i have a feeling it could be saul. And that just changes everything. We become absolutely favourite for title if we land saul. Ah one can dream.

22.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 17:19:56
Folded to 3rd. ahead of the great Chelsea with the divine back up players. Not going to bang on about last year, there was obvious reasons to struggle but we got what we wanted which was top 4.With a signing or two (or even a good loan outa Barcelona or Real) we can take our trophy back.

23.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 17:22:51
Really looking forward to seeing our big money centre half signing. Ben Davies ain’t it? Plus we bought that lad from Leipzig.

24.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 16:33:10
ed0666 his on £250k a week so he would have to take a pay cut otherwise he would be are highest paid player. But with all that is going on if he wants out a new contract on £200k should be ok. If we sell Shaq his wages and the wages saved on Gini should be close. leaving us to sell Minamino and Origi to raise so funds and save wages for an attacker. But as it stands ed there is still over 3 weeks to get stuff sorted and Ox has looked sharp in preseason so hopefully he stays fit and he will be like a new player.

{Ed0666's Note - Not sure hes on 250k a week mate that’s conjecture so him taking 200k a week is just football fan maths. Even tho Gini’s, Wilson’s, Grujic’s salaries are off the payroll its not as simple as sell three and they will fund a transfer. I’m far from the FFP expert that’s Ed’s 002 niche but there’s tonnes of costs involving transfers. Also we’ve extended a few expensive contracts also so that has to be taken into consideration. Although I believe you can spread those costs over the length of the contract. I still believe we have to sell before we buy and new players will depend on Shaq, Origi leaving. There’s no way we sign two players if Shaq and origi stay. I love the Ox I even think he’s serious captain material but the guy is made of marmalade and i think if we get a reasonable offer we should say goodbye.I truly hope he stays fit and proves me wrong because I think he’s a really good player and a wonderful personality to have around the club.

25.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 17:37:59
I have high hopes for Konate as well. Timmy is looking good as well in pre season a massive boost if he can give Robbo a rest.

26.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 17:47:59
666 i think we need to move keita actually to land saul instead of ox. And somethings tells me klopp is putting a whole seasons worth of trust in keita and by god if keita just gets himself sorted it be wonderful and fans have been waiting patiently for him.
3rd season could be a lucky charm.
Keita fab and thiago on form is midfield of dreams. Off form there isn't a worse nightmare.

{Ed0666's Note - I didn’t mention Keita as he’s ear enough impossible to shift. We’re never gonna get the circa £50 mill we paid for him so it’s financial folly to sell him so it’s more prudent to keep him give him another year and if he’s poor again then we’ll him at a reduced price because you’d he’d only have a year or two left after that on his contract and you won’t be renewing him. And if he does perform well this season then you have a nice problem. You can get decent money for him or you have a good player playing well.

27.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 17:17:59
Ed25, nobody needs you or anyone to feel sorry for us. We played the hand we were dealt and that’s it. It’s football. Funny enuff, You conveniently ignored what I posted. You say we should have dealt with it better. How did City deal with losing one CB for 4 months? They completely capitulated and gave up the title in Dec/ Jan despite them having the deepest squad in the league? You seem quiet on that which tells me you are not interested in having that debate. I wonder why?

Yet at the same time, you want to lecture me and the rest of us from your soap box on how LFC, a club with far less resources and with a less deeper squad, should have coped better with having near 4/ 5 times the amount of injuries than they did. Is that a sick joke or a whind up?

Sorry BUT no one wants anything from you or anyone else’s, not even fairness BUT For you to keep banging on that “oh, everyone has injuries” whereas you very well know that some have way more than others, is a more than biased analysis. Not surprised coming from the source.

Now, I would have said that we shall see how your lot win the league with that type of injury load BUT since it looks like you will NEVER come anywhere near doing that EVER, I guess I can’t banter you with that. Oh, well (eye roll) .

{Ed025's Note - if this was the city page and they were whining and whingeing i would be telling them the same oli, man up for gods sake..

28.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 18:44:52
Ed025 I have to correct you. You said if this was the city page you would be telling them as well. Don’t you mean if this was the city I’ve you would be telling both of them 😜.

{Ed025's Note - love it JK..

29.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 19:12:01
To be honest, Sergio Augero is a much better player than Harry Kane. Grealish weakens them defensively, If Varane was as good as is made out, Madrid wouldn't let him leave and Sancho an awful starter, and the biggest plus Ollie leads them. Haha. Come on.

30.) 07 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 19:32:18
Ed025 last season we did have a freak of a season with injuries and I don’t think anybody would have won the league in are country with them injuries it’s hard enough just to win the premier league anyway. I thought Klopp has to take his fair share of the blame for not getting Nat in earlier. But I thought the lads did really well to finish 3rd we can only blame are selfs for not getting to at least the semifinals of the champions league as we had enough chances to win the game Comfortably against Madrid.

31.) 08 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 23:06:53
No Ed025, our starting centre halves and backup centre halves were all injured. What we were forced to play were academy centre halves, inexperienced young lads, and midfielders, which as you well know had many more knock on effects than that of a small scale injury crisis. You’re just being deliberately obtuse and not responding properly to what is being said in the posts.

I hardly see how acknowledging that the players and staff losing their loved ones may have had a substantial effect on squad morale can be called ‘playing the bereavement card’. I think that’s an incredibly distasteful thing to say and honestly this entire thread just reeks of bitterness. We didn’t ‘fold like a cheap deck chair’, we finished third despite everything that happened, and i would think that all that this team has achieved is far more indicative of their mental strength than of how they did in a dystopian bogus season of football. We know how mentally strong they are because we’ve already seen it, and to ignore that is just plain ignorance.

Nobody is asking for sympathy or whinging about what's already happened, on the contrary we’re all just excited for the next season and for the football to be back to normal, confident that Liverpool can do well. It’s you that keeps demanding us to feel terrible about a team that we have every reason to believe will perform better than they did last season, to reach the levels they already have proven they can reach.

If you hold your own players to the same impossible, irrational and downright unfair standards that you hold the Liverpool players to, it’s no wonder you’re all constantly unhappy and your teams are perpetually rubbish. I’m sure they’d be chuffed if their parents died or they did their ACL and were told by their supporters to just ‘man up’ and get on with it. Surely you’re better than that mate.

32.) 08 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 23:55:05
Ed25, no excuses as injuries are part and parcel of the game and I agree squad depth is important. I never said our squad is the strongest but our first team with a few additions can match anyone’s. The season we just had is very unlikely to happen again and any squad even City would have felt it if it happened to them. My only point was that people are forgetting how strong our first team is and that goes for rival fans not just ours. But it’s fine they will soon remember when the season starts.

33.) 08 Aug 2021
07 Aug 2021 23:10:26
I think Marcel Sabitzer or Ward-Prowse is a good alternative if we unavailable to get Bissouma. I think LFC need a player who brave to take a chance to shoot the ball outside the penalty box.