02 Feb 2021 00:12:21
This is me, trying not to be a doom monger:

As the eds has told us, Taki is a bit shy and withdrawn, not really part of the group. And combined with the fact that our loanees traditionally has not been managed well. It makes me wonder how Taki (and in the longer run the club) will benefit from this loan. Is it just a matter of (hopefully) getting playing time?

I just hope the club has learned some, and will take care of him during the spell, rather than just sending him away and hoping for the best.

Here's to hoping us, or another team for that matter, will see the best of him for years to come.

{Ed0666's Note - worst case scenario we make a profit on what we paid for him. Best case he replaces Bobby in a year or two.

1.) 02 Feb 2021
02 Feb 2021 00:25:56
I might be way off course on this but with Ings there I’m sure he’s still in touch with some of his former team mates. He also comes across as a rather sound guy. Perhaps with the obvious getting game time in a team playing well and having a former player like ings there it made lots of sense overall. Hopefully he settles gains confidence and is able to overcome his shyness.

2.) 02 Feb 2021
02 Feb 2021 02:12:12
Taki was never a teammate of Ings BERGENRED.

3.) 02 Feb 2021
02 Feb 2021 02:56:55
Ed0666, i think worse case scenario is seeing his career further damaged. Feel for the guy, hope he fits in well there. Maybe being a "smaller" club will help?

{Ed0666's Note - Don’t see how playing regular football as opposed to no football is gonna damage his career mate?

4.) 02 Feb 2021
02 Feb 2021 02:41:34
Too many players are injury prone.
Matip is always injured. Keita, the Ox is also an injury prone player. The others, OK, not usually injured but it is becoming an all too frequent theme. Back in the old days, when the team was the same almost every week, injuries were rare. What has changed?
Players made of glass seems common now. From having a defence out injured, the next event will be the attack out injured. I don't remember Roger Hunt being out injured? All very strange.
I hope Minamino comes back. He has never been given a long run in the team.
Injuries.? They will continue.
Origi, he is the one I would have liked to go out on loan, or sold.
Keita is just a waste of space and money.

5.) 02 Feb 2021
02 Feb 2021 08:23:30
Yuri, on the "why are players injured more these days" ite because the nature of, and the science of the game has changed so much.

I've just read Paisley's book back to back after reading Jack Charlton's autobiography and 2 things really stick out:

1) you didn't admin to being injured back then unless it was obvious - this meant it looked like players were injured less, but its just that they played on through - often with detrimental longer term impact on their health and playing career.

2) The game was played WAY WAY slower in those days. Even compared to the 1980s (when I first started watching) the game is so much quicker these days. Footballers are finely honed athletes, which they certain didn't used to be - got to give Wenger a lot of credit for professionalising the game here. Although that means that physical fitness is such a focus for players - living much cleaner and eating much better - it also means that they are pushing their bodies that much harder than they did in the good ole days. Push more towards the limit will have an effect on injuries.

I'm sure the Eds and others will point out other changes, but these are the main 2 imo.

6.) 02 Feb 2021
02 Feb 2021 11:50:34
Zeddicus,

Good points, it was slower but had some bone crunching tackles. We have been unlucky with injuries over the last few months but Matip and The Ox appear more prone than most. Matip is out for the rest of the season. Keita has a habit of getting injured as well.

Swings and roundabouts; faster game but few hard tackles and they used to be very hard. Chopper Harris and Norman 'Bites your legs' Hunter to name but a few. Tommy Smith could tackle robustly so could Emlyn Hughes. Poor Tommy ended up on crutches. An inside left that ended up as a wing half. Rowdy Yates. Aaaggh tough centre half.

7.) 02 Feb 2021
02 Feb 2021 07:20:53
Ed0666, what I meant was if things don't go well it just gets worse for him, which I feel sad for. I agree playing little football with us is not good and I guess he maybe regrets the move at this stage, which again is sad. My comment was regarding 'worse case scenario", but your view appeared to be from an LFC point of view, I guess I was trying to see it from his point of view.

{Ed0666's Note - Southampton isn’t a bad move mate. The deal doesn’t come with an option to buy which Klopp was adamant on so there seems to be a future at Liverpool for the guy.