09 Dec 2020 01:04:46
Well done to PSG and Istanbul Basaksehir for walking off the pitch after racist comments from the 4th official. Hopefully this sort of embarrassment finally brings some meaningful action from UEFA.

{Ed0666's Note - I willing to bet my wife and my car that UEFA go easy on the linesman.


1.) 09 Dec 2020
09 Dec 2020 08:38:02
A certain John Barnes has a different view on this over on Twitter. He's kind of got a point but it depends on us knowing for definite what was actually said.


2.) 09 Dec 2020
09 Dec 2020 09:21:58
Sheffield United have a better chance beating us at anfield this season than uefa inflicting proper punishment on the official. Tbh the way they deal with clubs is appalling so I'd actually feel sorry for the official if they dealt with him harshly as it will only be in response to uproar.


3.) 09 Dec 2020
09 Dec 2020 09:54:53
@johnnyr1970 I had a look at that twitter thread and it has some interesting points of view. I have been travelling for more than 15 years now and I feel there is still so much I can learn about this topic.


4.) 09 Dec 2020
09 Dec 2020 10:35:00
Andros, John is always very vocal in his opposition to racism on social media - rightly so - but the point he makes in his thread today is correct in my opinion. Given how much racist abuse he faced in his playing career then I'm happy to agree with him on this specific issue. A lot of people don't it would appear.


5.) 09 Dec 2020
09 Dec 2020 13:24:06
I think John would make a good point if the fourth officials language was different. If you were to describe the only white fella in a crowd of black people would it be ok to refer to him as "the white guy"? Likewise the only black fella in a crowd of white people would it be ok to describe him as "the black guy"? However using the word negro which he did is obviously a different kettle of fish. The fact that both teams took exception to it and stood together shows it wasn't right and we should probably listen instead of excuse making. The Suarez debacle should at least have taught us that.


6.) 09 Dec 2020
09 Dec 2020 14:02:49
OP, this is what needs to happen. The solidarity shown here by both teams (PSG have a ton of black players on their teams so that helps) is what MUST happen. Talk is cheap. Slogans and bumper stickers are nice BUT it is only by big and bold actions, that racism will be stamped out of football. Some people do not understand dialogue and consensus. They only understand consequences and in other case punishment, period.

If UEFA want to go easy on the official then, let them do it. I doubt cos the world is watching and they may just make an example of him due to that. If they go easy on him then, they are rewarding bad behavior and their whole anti-racism campaign ain't worth the paper or bumper sticker it is written on. Just my take.


7.) 09 Dec 2020
09 Dec 2020 14:28:09
Personally - my opinion - if someone called me a white guy if I was stood with a few black guys then I'd kind of expect it because it's the most obvious differentiator.

The guy last night used the Romanian word for black. I have serious doubts that his intent was to be racist, however he will be hung out to dry for it. It's the same with the Cavani issue, it's just a non story over cultural/ language differences and all the noise over it masks the true racism issues.


8.) 10 Dec 2020
10 Dec 2020 11:18:04
Johnnyr1970, The officials are instructed to speak English during game communication to anyone as in, players and officials. Why did he use the word Negru (which is Negro, the foundation word of the N word used during slavery) when he was supposed to speak English?

That word is a derogatory word cos it has been used in a demeaning, offensive and denigrating word to address black people for centuries. You may think Barnes has a point BUT he does not. People experience racism in multiple forms so I do not need Barnes to explain to me how I experience racism. Neiter does Pierre Webo, the assistant coach and the victim in this instance. Webo and myself, are capable of doing that ourselves, thank you very much.

Pierre Webo played in La Liga for years so I would defer to him on this issue and how players were racially abused at the time he played there. Apart from his opinion, John Barnes has nothing else to teach him. That is what you seem to be unable to grasp.

Furthermore, why would you address a person in his official capacity 5assistant coach or whatever) based on the color of his skin? That is the height of disrespect for the position he holds and just reducing him to being "just the black guy" is insulting in of itself. Again, another concept you do not understand. I dare you to go address a black man in his official capacity as just "the black guy" at your job and see what happens to you.


9.) 11 Dec 2020
09 Dec 2020 04:08:50
Dibs on the car.

{Ed0666's Note - I can’t even give my wife away


10.) 11 Dec 2020
09 Dec 2020 07:13:11
How much for just your car Ed0666?

{Ed0666's Note - cheeky sod 😂


11.) 11 Dec 2020
09 Dec 2020 10:58:40
ED0666 sounds like you are willing to bet your most prized possession there.
What make and model is it?

{Ed0666's Note - everyone’s a frigging comedian today. Clearly you’ve all met my wife 😂