20 Jul 2020 13:03:09
Hi Ed, i read your comments about LFC was now is not in good financial condition. Even LFC cannot pursue some of free transfer players i. e. Willian and Fraser. I'm just wondering, what is LFC target for their next season? As we noticed that next season LFC will compete on 4-5 competitions (EPL, UCL, FA, Carabao, etc) . How we available to compete especially to add another trophies into our trophy cabinet without financial support?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool need to work within the rules and cannot keep adding more and more players without others moving. Liverpool have shown no interest in Willian or Fraser. There will be at least 7 EPL sides competing in these competitions as well. Where do you expect the financial support to come from?}

1.) 20 Jul 2020
20 Jul 2020 14:57:10
From TV viewing deals, youtube, sponsorship agreements, sales of jerseys and merchandise, prizes when winning the trophies (UCL, Super Cup, World Club Cup, EPL), fees received when loaning the player, etc. However, i fully agreed that lfc need to maintain homegrown players and control the wages balance. Hopefully, we can make our squad stronger and more balance for the next season Ed. Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - I think perhaps the finances are something you don't understand. Liverpool will, like all or nearly all PL clubs, make a significant loss this year. They have debts to pay that they rely on end of season funds. They have a huge wage bill, they have to pay money back to the broadcasters, the club pay enormous summs to agents and third parties for their service.}

2.) 20 Jul 2020
20 Jul 2020 15:26:52
Can I have another question Ed. do you have any thoughts on how Dortmund can make many of potential young players to join the club? Haaland, Dembele, Isak, Reyna, Pulisic, Bellingham, Sancho, Akanji, Brandt, Hazard, etc. Because, if we want to apply moneyball concept than we should try to copying what Dortmund scouts methodology. Especially at this time, i believe significant loss was happened not only in PL but also in Bundesliga, Serie A and La Liga.

{Ed002's Note - It is not a "moneyball" concept. BD look to buy younger players because there is a lot more value and they give opportunities to the players - which is a massive selling point for them. There are losses across Europe.}

3.) 20 Jul 2020
20 Jul 2020 17:42:31
I am starting to get the feeling that people just mention "moneyball" w/ o exactly knowing what it means nor how it is applied esp. in baseball.

Moneyball does not work in football cos the metrics used to measure the value of a baseball player who does not have the best stats YET is able to get on base more times than the ones who do, cannot be applied to football as they are different sports. Pretty simple stuff, really.

4.) 20 Jul 2020
20 Jul 2020 19:04:01
Moneyball? Is Ozone back ðŸ™ˆðŸ™ˆ.

5.) 20 Jul 2020
20 Jul 2020 20:54:27
In America they yap on about money ball and write a book and make a film. Here we go "good deal" Red meister is right, hard to equate.

6.) 20 Jul 2020
20 Jul 2020 21:40:23
Oh dear! Is ozone really back ðŸ˜…ðŸ˜…ðŸ˜…ðŸ˜…. Where is Waro ðŸ˜…ðŸ˜….

7.) 20 Jul 2020
20 Jul 2020 22:00:57
Spot on, Robbie. Already in baseball (having lived in the States and gone to several baseball games, I would know), people think that the objective of the sport is to hit a ball coming at you at 100 miles/ hour with a bat.

That is not the objective of the game. In fact, you don't need to actually hit the ball during a game to win. You realistically will end up hitting it, but you don't have to. Good luck with trying to compare that sport to football.

{Ed025's Note - del trotter once described it as "silly boys rounders", and i happen to agree with him.. :)

8.) 21 Jul 2020
21 Jul 2020 00:08:06
to be clear moneyball was not so much about "getting on base" as it was about analysing players and finding ones that were undervalued (as they saw it) by the market. "on base" percentage was one metric they used but they have since used others. Liverpool do use metrics to assign values to players. However its much harder than baseball because football is much more complex. eg much more of a team game, played in 3-D, many more variations.

{Ed002's Note - So it means nothing then football wise.}

9.) 21 Jul 2020
21 Jul 2020 02:26:04
Was a cracking movie though. I read the article where beane said vdb was good business seeing as he was playing at Dutch league 1 level at 15/ 16 and was available for 1.5/ 2mil.
And you look at Robbo and matip, 2 players who were instrumental in us winning the cl last year and we paid 8mil for the pair. That's half cl winning defence, I suppose you could say Trent didn't cost either.

10.) 21 Jul 2020
21 Jul 2020 12:04:38
Spot on, Robbie. In fact, I listened to the Blood Red Podcast last night and lo and behold, Billy Beane was who they had on. He thoroughly explained what Moneyball is and used the Sepp Van Den Berg example you alluded to in your post.

Another example Beane used was wait for it. VVD. He said that even tho, VVD was signed as the most expensive CB in the world, his overall player performance has actually exceeded the value at which we signed him.

Meaning that based on the data metrics and data analytics the club uses to scout players, VVD was either performing at the same level or outperforming certain CB's that were valued much higher than him at the time we pulled the trigger and signed him.

According to Beane, these two examples explain the true meaning of the Moneyball concept. If anyone has not listened to this podcast, PLEASE do listen to it. You will be much smarter for it.