1.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 16:14:27
Only about 2/ 3 through this, but this is an outstanding read, Tris.

{Ed001's Note - thanks hopeful.}


2.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 16:38:03
Unreal brilliant read mate. Hated every second of what I was reading (reading about them clowns ruining the club) but what a fantastic article. Best one yet.

{Ed001's Note - cheers II glad you enjoyed.}


3.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 16:42:17
Cracking read that thanks ed001, shows how far the club has had to come to catch up. Also, shows he really was the reason for our struggles. Luckily, his chapter is closed off.

Also is it fair to say that we owe a fair bit of gratitude to rafa for the youth set up? Or has there been another substantial shake up since then that has seen our academy improve? It's just it seems to tie up with what you have said previously that it takes a fair few years to notice improvements in the academy.

{Ed001's Note - a massive debt of thanks to Rafa. Parry had completely destroyed it and Rafa had to literally start all over again. It has since been worked on, but it is just tinkering ever since.}


4.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 17:22:22
Great read Ed001. Thanks for taking the time. LFC has come a long way in recent years. I had forgotten how close we were to the brink with the RBS repayments.

{Ed001's Note - that's because history has been rewritten in recent years to make it seem like H&G were swindled out of the club. They were about to take it into admin.}


5.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 17:41:16
Great read Ed001, you and I are certainly off the same sheet when it comes to Parry and Moores.

They are to blame for not taking the club forward and letting United in on the act.

Ed002 always says we’re always blaming someone, especially when I’ve posted this on here about Moore’s and Parry. having grown up watching LFC since the early 80’s I witnessed the demos first hand in the 90’s and 00’’s and as much as I love ed002’s wisdom, time and effort, he’s wrong with this one.

They held us back massively, you just need to look at the players identified only to be told no the money isn’t there.

And don’t get me started on the sale of the club to gillet and hicks!

Rant over, brilliant as ever ed001.

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate and I agree they were to blame.}


6.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 17:45:44
Loved the article ed. Amazing insight into the workings of the club back in those dark days. To even utter the phrase, 'in hindsight, quality over quantity would have been better' just somes the fool up.

{Ed001's Note - exactly mate.}


7.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 17:56:25
Brilliant read. It’s sad to see how far we were behind. I would advise others to read an epic swindle if you liked this.

Tris, would be interesting if you did something on the change to FSG or Hicks and Gillette’s you have the time.

Thanks for the read, loved it.

Crooky.

{Ed001's Note - ok mate I have added that to the to do list.}


8.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 18:05:59
Great read Eds, how do these crooks get away with it, blackpool springs to mind, bury, Bolton .

{Ed001's Note - because those with money can get away with anything sadly.}


9.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 18:58:02
Brilliant ed I know the horror stories about hicks and gillett but do you think hicks could have done a better job without gillett or was he as bad on his own? Only ask because in the article you reference him wanting to develop the club (obviously for his own gain but isn't that all business people) but gillett was backing parry.

{Ed001's Note - Hicks was just more business savvy than Parry and Moores. Moores never did a stroke of work in his life. Parry was just a beancounter who couldn't see past the beans. The problem with Gillett and Hicks is neither had enough money, either on their own or together, to take the club on. Added to that Hicks would have wanted the club to be run similar to Man Utd now. Huge commercial revenue being all it is about, so no I don't think he could have done a better job as he simply could not afford to do anything. If he had the money, then yes he would have been a better option. Gillett just seemed to back Parry because he didn't like Hicks as a person when he got to know him.}


10.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 19:05:04
Thank you ed. really enjoyed it (but hated it) at the same time! Can't stand moores. Since our first one, We've won a European Cup at least once in every Decade bar the 90's. the David Moores 90's were horrendous, thank f we're back up amongst Europe's elite where we should be!

{Ed001's Note - I have never liked Moores. He was just a saddo whose only interest was what he could take.}


11.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 19:08:57
Wish I knew you had a podcast on that ed could have listened to it. I appreciate your written article ed but so much easier for me to listen to them in work . thinking about it you could have a rumours radio station that would be epic.

{Ed001's Note - sorry mate, all of these kind of articles I am trying to do a podcast with now. I am not sure how a radio station could work these days. Does winamp still exist??}


12.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 19:23:11
Brilliant article Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - thanks Eamon.}


13.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 19:23:12
Firstly Ed fantastic article. I knew some of the ineptitude of the previous incumbents but didn't know how bad it was, how rotten it was, and how they (Parry and Moores) leeched off the club, offering nothing in return, for their own personal gain - truly a disgrace.

Secondly, given what I have just read, I think we can count ourselves lucky, as a club, to be in the position we are now. If things had of been a little different we could've potentially tumbled doen the league and, who knows, suffered the fates previously suffered by big clubs like Leeds, Forest, and Newcastle. Thank god we seem to be run in a better way these days - whatever their motives credit has to be given to FSG.

{Ed001's Note - we would have been lucky to end up like those others, we were very much close to admin.}


14.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 19:40:33
Ed01, that was not an article. That was a well-produced documentary into the life and times of LFC under Rick Parry and Davd Moores. What a train wreck. The level of incompetence, self-denial and lies was just stunning. And the excuses? Someone once said, "Beware of someone who has an excuse for everything under the sun". Had some of the signings that Parry screwed up happened, we may have won the PL already under Rafa. I guess, we'll never know.

Also, It seemed Parry would rather just make stuff up instead of accepting responsibility and try to do better next time. It seemed nothing was ever his fault. As for Moores, no further comment. Big Up's to Rafa and the the players who played for us during that time under such turmoil. He will always be loved at LFC even if it was just for having to deal with the crap show that was Parry, Moores and those Cowboys.


15.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 20:01:28
That's excellent.

I knew he was rubbish, but some of that is incredible. He nearly makes Hicks look like a mammal by comparison.

Can I be really greedy and ask you to do one on Purslow? At your leisure, obviously.

{Ed001's Note - I have added it to my to do list for you mate. Parry was just way out of his depth and Hicks was right about one thing, Parry was an arrogant SOB. He alienated the fans by being an utter dick.}


16.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 20:13:37
Really good article ed I remember you saying ages ago that Moore’s loved money more than the club just sad that someone like him who profess to love our club almost ruin it what an utter bell.
Up the pool.

{Ed001's Note - I still remember his crocodile tears when he sold us, prick was just crying because he was so happy to have been given millions for doing nothing while still kept his role in the club. I have no time for the man at all.}


17.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 21:04:24
I’ve never enjoyed reading such a sore topic more! I remember those years and signings so well. Every year on this site we had the same rumours Simao, Alves, Aguero, Villa, Silva, Dubai investment, etc only to be disappointed by these clowns.
Thanks for your efforts Ed must have been a painful research!

{Ed001's Note - it was very painful.}


18.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 20:43:50
Great read ed, makes me feel a little sick to be honest. As a club we completely took our eye off the ball. At the time I would be guilty of being a delusional liverpool supporter, thinking people at the top where looking after our club. Cheers ed.

{Ed001's Note - it is good to look back and see how far we have come.}


19.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 20:52:45
Ed1, bravo mate, that was a really well written article, looking forward to the podcast versions as well. Thank you for the time and effort mate, much appreciated after a long day, it was nice to chill out and read that.

{Ed001's Note - the audio version is up the link should be on there. It is the same article, I just do the audio version as well.}


20.) 21 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 21:14:05
Very interesting Ed001 thank you.
The David Moores / Rick Parry era was part of a perfect storm that hit Liverpool around the time - ageing team, loss of Kenny, Bob Paisley’s illness, Hillsborough and the European ban after Hysel etc.
The Moores ‘ fortune was a pale imitation of its former glories also. After the death of Sir John Moores, his Littlewoods empire was broken up and parts sold off, with various family members inheriting. David got the Liverpool shares, I think.
He most likely had a lot less leverage to raise serious finance than may have been the case prior to Sir John’s death?
But in many respects it seems as if the club lost a lot of talented people in a relatively short space of time and was not able to modernise and adapt.
Their successors, including Parry, were not of the same quality.
The current set-up looks much better, though I’m dreading the day that Klopp goes!
Cheers Ed.

{Ed001's Note - he had the leverage, he chose not to take out the loans to build the stadium as he had to put up his own money as well.}


21.) 22 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 21:21:57
That was an excellent read Ed01, how did the 2 charlatans get away with such diabolical ineptitude for so long. Hicks worked out Parry very quickly.
How can a club the size of Liverpool get left behind both on the field and commercially, especially at a time when money was starting to pour into the premier league.
How did Parry last so long when it was blindingly obvious he was holding the club back, he seemed to be untouchable for a period of time.
Anyway, I will leave it there, thanks Ed.

{Ed001's Note - I remember there were a lot of problems with regard to Parry and the fans. He was not well liked at all, Hicks referred to his arrogance with supporters and I know he upset a number of prominent fans who were heavily involved in the club at the time. He got away with it because Moores was his buddy.}


22.) 22 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 21:33:41
I’d always had the impression that Liverpool (and Everton’s) success was allied to finance that could be raised via the Littlewoods Empire but it may have been via short to medium term loans (and shares ventures) that were raised against the assurity of ready and reliable cash flow from 50,000 + punters every week through the turnstiles.
And that Liverpool never truly made the transition away from that finance model in the way Man Utd for example later were able to?
In all respects we were stuck in the 70s / 80s?

{Ed001's Note - spot on mate, Parry was supposed to be this forward thinker who would bring the club into the 21st century but he had no idea.}


23.) 22 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 21:50:16
Tris I think you went too easy on Parry, he did nothing but cause long term damage to the club and supporters. But it is true the more incompetent some people are the higher they climb.
A great read that should be pasted up beside the Shankley Gates as a history lesson to the young 'uns.
Well done Ed.

{Ed001's Note - I feel I was a bit soft on him as well. It is probably the only time I have referred to him without an expletive between the Prick and the Parry....}


24.) 22 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 21:58:38
Great read ed.
I feel like you should do a part 2 on this, takeover with fsg and how they've done it different and made a successful go at it.

{Ed001's Note - that is now on my to do list for you max.}


25.) 22 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 22:37:57
An excellent well researched detail article, covered so much information of his tenure, thanks for that read, also thanks to the 2 posters who asked for the article to be made.

Unbelievable to have a situation where owners, chief executive, and manager can spend years with such a poor working relationship when so much is at stake, he showed a disgusting amount of disregard to the club and fans he claimed to be a part of, nothing but a lying self obsessed greedy wretch of a man.

{Ed001's Note - and he is still getting brought into football matters as an 'expert'. Never ceases to amaze how football rewards the useless.}


26.) 22 Aug 2019
21 Aug 2019 23:35:59
brilliant, just brilliant Ed.

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate. Taken some time that one. I had to keep walking away from it because it was so infuriating to remember those days.}


27.) 22 Aug 2019
22 Aug 2019 00:07:17
Seriously Ed001 what a brilliant insight into what went on re Parry&Moores fantastic read. Could you do one on Lee Bowyer not coming to the club please?

{Ed001's Note - added that to the to do list. That was one time I was grateful for a transfer not going through. Racist little prick should have been rotting in jail, not playing professional football.}


28.) 22 Aug 2019
22 Aug 2019 01:10:49
How was he even considered mate?

{Ed0666's Note - if you’re referring to Bowyer mate he was playing some decent football and he was pretty close to signing for us. If memory serves me correctly he wanted more money than we were prepared to offer. Thank Christ that transfer didn’t happen.


29.) 22 Aug 2019
22 Aug 2019 07:24:47
Ah Ed, appolagies, I must've missed it because I was on my phone at the time, now I'm on my PC I can see it! cheers mate.

{Ed001's Note - small screens, old eyes, the two do not mix well... ;-)


30.) 22 Aug 2019
22 Aug 2019 08:45:01
Fantastic article that Ed - just feel the anger rising when you remember just how truly bad it was under Parry and Moore, crazy times. You wonder what could have been if things had been handled right.

{Ed001's Note - thanks mate. We could have had Anfield redeveloped many many years ago, if Moores hadn't been shy to dip into his own pocket for collateral.}


31.) 23 Aug 2019
22 Aug 2019 16:05:16
Thank you Ed, been looking forward to the Rick Parry article.
Much appreciated!


32.) 24 Aug 2019
22 Aug 2019 16:26:06
Brilliant read, thanks!

Am I right in thinking going into administration is where the club basically dies? Then you end up with a new club like FC Liverpool, or something? That would have been heartbreaking.

Also, it says Gareth Barry was considered for left-back, why was this? Was he not considered as Xabi's replacement instead? Xabi was my favourite ever Liverpool midfielder, so I always thought this would have been madness if Barry was the replacement.