21 Jul 2019 00:17:20
Hey EDs. Would you have any information surrounding Naby Keita? I'd be interested to know how the signing is viewed within. Is he seen as a good purchase or poor.

Any activity in moving him on by the club or interested clubs looking to purchase.

He didn't seem to show enough for me compared to the billing. The permit stuff is laughable and we are not short of covering the midfield. Personally I hope to hear we are talking to clubs as he offers little compared to others that maybe purchased as an alternative.
In fact Ox looks twice the player and Naby right now would be lucky to get a bench seat.

{Ed002's Note - From my perspective it was not a good signing. Liverpool paid a significant holding fee for a tear and then returned to pay a significant fee and to find he had spent a uear behaving as a complete jerk and had got himself a very serious conviction. They will work out the English issue. I agree that AOC would be a more reliable option.}

1.) 21 Jul 2019
21 Jul 2019 09:29:00
I feel if he doesn't make huge improvements this season he has to be moved out. If last year doesn't act as a learning curve for him then it would clearly show a major attitude fault. But personally I'm really optimistic that he can grow up and start to show the ability we know he has.

Big season for him though, make or break naby.

2.) 21 Jul 2019
21 Jul 2019 09:28:44
A conviction for what ed?

{Ed002's Note - Fraud - but he got his fine cut down from €415k to €215k and the rest suspended.}

3.) 21 Jul 2019
21 Jul 2019 10:19:15
He has really surprised me with his attitude, he should of been doing everything in that year he knew he was coming too acclimatise too the country the culture the language, he should of been excited too do this also, I am with the above in that if he doesn't show improvements this season he is out on his arse .

4.) 21 Jul 2019
21 Jul 2019 13:22:33
I feel Naby is a super talented player who as we aw last season when fit and having a good run of games, is phenomenal. I do think he has to adapt to the PL quicker and of course, fix his off-field issues ASAP cos regardless of how talented many of us think he is, those off-field issues will definitely hold him back. As we have seen at LFC since Klopp arrived, no passengers are allowed and if you can't get on the train, you'll be left behind for good. Here's to hoping he can make the jump to the next level.

5.) 21 Jul 2019
21 Jul 2019 13:49:34
We didn't exactly need him did we. I hope he does well and proves everyone wrong but tbh I think he's flopping already, For every Allison there is a Karius.

6.) 21 Jul 2019
21 Jul 2019 15:23:05
Talent isn't as important as mind set tho if you aren't willing to work harder then everyone else you will be left behind at the very top they all have talent

Naby needs to cop on learn English and work his socks of or he will be moved in to a lesser team next season I feel.

7.) 21 Jul 2019
21 Jul 2019 13:36:33
Ed002, fraud for Keita having a fake drivers license?

That is what I can recall reading about a while ago.

I seriously hope Keita can sort himself out as he is a very good player but if he keeps on mucking about then LFC have wasted loads of cash signing him.

Perhaps he needs a blow on the head via a 16lb hammer to sort his head out?

{Ed002's Note - It was rather more complicated than that.}

8.) 21 Jul 2019
21 Jul 2019 18:50:13
I thought was a bad move from day 1. I remember him throwing a strop in training and cleaning out the Leipzig captain. Everything kicked off because of his petulance and that was just one of many examples where his attitude came across as poor. Never mind his lack of professionalism or effort, never mind the stupid outfits and disrespectful comments. He went and got multiple red cards in his final season actually damaging the club's season, and as Ed002 said, a serious conviction which drags his club's name through the mud.

If he would just grow up he could be brilliant but I don't think Klopp will tolerate it. He didn't with Sakho. I think we'll end up losing a lot of money on Naby and I can't see him ever justifying what we paid. Rose tints off, he's been a huge mistake and needs to pull off a major U-turn to get things back on track.

I have a lot of faith in Klopp's ability to get the best from players, but they have to want to learn. It's Keita I have no faith in. It's gutting when you can see the talent but some players waste it. Unless you are Ronaldinho good, you can't get away with being a complete tool.

Sorry if people think this is harsh but the amount of money these blokes get, I don't think I have to accept anything less than maximum effort and good behavioir from the players at the club representing us all. It's embarassing that he can't even pass a basic English exam when he knew he was coming here 24 months ago.

9.) 21 Jul 2019
21 Jul 2019 20:56:26
Everyone will be eating their words come the end of the upcoming season, watch him go. Attitude wise yes, he needs to sort that out and if anybody can it'll be this team/ Klopp.

10.) 21 Jul 2019
21 Jul 2019 21:34:38
I get exactly what you're saying plain bread and you're not wrong. But I think it's fair to give him a fresh start, he's acted immature for sure but he arrived as a 23 year old on a long contract with plenty of room for development both as a person and a player. If he wastes another year then yes I'd lose all belief in him. We've seen with klopp that when guys like sakho, balotelli, markovich maybe clyne don't apply themselves he will exclude them. When or if the time comes that klopp has had enough we'll know. I have full trust in kloppos judgement.

11.) 21 Jul 2019
21 Jul 2019 22:13:17
I think all depends on whether he's going to be injury-free this season. If he remains injury-free then everyone will have had a look and see if his on field output is worth all the trouble. History has shown us that many clubs put up with a lot of nonsense if a player's performance on the field warrants looking the other way. Not a question of right or wrong, but just what I have noticed. If his performances are not better than Wiji's or Hendo's (I see him as a CM) then I expect quite a few eyebrows being raised.

12.) 21 Jul 2019
21 Jul 2019 23:14:53
Agreed salah, way too early to write him off. He hasn't even had a run in the team really. When he did get a run he started scoring. People say we need more goals from midfield, he is a guy who can give us goals. I love Aoc too btw and look forward to him starting.

13.) 21 Jul 2019
21 Jul 2019 23:29:37
Yeah Henderson, Lucas leiva were examples of players we wanted out after poor start to their careers. Even bobby firmino was bang average in his first season.

{Ed025's Note - and still is har..

14.) 22 Jul 2019
22 Jul 2019 00:01:55
Is that the copa america and european champion firmino ed025?

Amazing player.

{Ed025's Note - hes a good player robbie, goes missing at times though and was not all that last season imo and subsequently is not first choice for his country, but performs well in the klopp system mate..

15.) 22 Jul 2019
22 Jul 2019 09:45:39
Respect your opinion Ed025 but he doesn't actually go missing his role is to drop deep taking players out of position to allow for more space for other players within the team. He does allot of the dirty work so others don't have to but yes he fits perfectly into klopps system.

{Ed025's Note - i thought he was great the season before last seosamh but was not as effective last campaign, still a good player though mate..

16.) 22 Jul 2019
22 Jul 2019 19:13:01
Wingers wouldn't scpre as much without bobby.