11 Jun 2019 21:01:12
Apologies if this has been mentioned, but obviously Klopp is a fantastic coach, motivator and his man management seems top notch as well. Just seeing if the Ed’s has any insight as to what happened towards the end of his time at Dortmund? Was it just a case of the players he had weren’t good enough? Or did they not buy into his style anymore?
Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - a lot of it was down to bad luck, they had one of those seasons where they hit the woodwork an inordinate amount of times. Part of it was because the club kept selling his best players and he was constantly having to begin again. And part of it was the other teams were improving and investing in their teams while he was rebuilding his.}

1.) 12 Jun 2019
12 Jun 2019 00:33:53
Klopp was making the players very good as they bought into his way of playing and were given the big boys a run for their money. But if I remember right they would then be picked off by likes of Bayern and he had to continually try to compete whilst integrating new players. Can see why the club would accept good money but they were on cusp of being best team. If only he had a bit more investment.
As a side note I find it strange that Bayern can basically but any player they choose in that league and clubs negotiate prices with them whilst not wanting to accept bids from abroad. Is there an unwritten rule selling between clubs?

2.) 12 Jun 2019
12 Jun 2019 06:45:33
Thanks Ed for the reply!

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

3.) 12 Jun 2019
12 Jun 2019 08:38:23
OP, Ed is correct. Klopp's last season was strange a many diff. levels. It seemed like ALL things were just going against them in games esp. since it was a season right after the WC in Brazil, his players were not as fit as he would like. Hence, injuries kept flowing as his WC players were having all types of injuries.

Triple this with the fact that his players kept being cherry-picked by Bayern, he had to sign players horridly and go again afresh hence, the likes of Mykhitarian ans esp. Immobile were not convincing (Immobile was a true flop) . By Christmas, BVB was in the relegation zone.

Now when he got his players back things started to to change and they finished 7th, beating Bayern in the DFB Pokal in the semis and then lost to Wolfsburg led by KDB who were frankly, the better team. It was clear that it was time for Klopp to go as the situation had become unsustainable esp. since Hummels left 2 season afterwards.

4.) 12 Jun 2019
12 Jun 2019 15:00:45
Pretty much Moggsy. You'll see the same thing in Italy. A lot of it is down to wanting to maintain the strength of your league by keeping the major talents. An especially relevant issue given how much more money english teams have. In theory its not a bad idea, but what seems to usually happen is that one team buys all of the best players. This in turn actually weakens the league as Competition is needed.

5.) 12 Jun 2019
12 Jun 2019 15:01:04
Makes a lot of sense Ed.
Klopp must be delighted to think his future is at a club that can hold onto players now, in the main.
Coutihno excluded.

6.) 12 Jun 2019
12 Jun 2019 15:07:39
Moggsy, German players mostly see Bayern as the best way to get attention from the German National team hence, the reason why they prefer to go to Bayern and why Bayern have the lot to pick from within Germany. This has been going on for the past 25 years or so that I know of.