08 Mar 2019 15:11:01
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain has been playing for Liverpool's Under-23s against Derby. He was expected to play for the first half but was taken off four minutes before the break. Carl Markham, the Press Association reporter at Derby's training ground, says "he was maybe holding his right hamstring".


1.) 08 Mar 2019
08 Mar 2019 15:36:48
I've just checked this out and apparently, yes, he was substituted in the 41st minute but didn't Klopp say he was only playing 1 half anyway? Strange that they wouldn't of just kept him on until half time? let's hope it's not too serious.


2.) 08 Mar 2019
08 Mar 2019 15:38:34
It is expected. Training can only do so much, an actual game will pull and move your body on instinct in ways you forgot how. He will have niggles here and there as he makes he way back. Great to see him back btw.


3.) 08 Mar 2019
08 Mar 2019 17:26:31
Apparently it was just a precaution, no point in taking any risks.


4.) 08 Mar 2019
08 Mar 2019 18:02:59
I have seen countless times, when a player coming back from a long injury lay off, suffer hamstring or other muscle injuries. It seems to be perfectly normal. What is important is what happens tmrw when Ox wakes up to see if there is any reaction/ swelling in his knee after today. IMO, that is what to watch for.


5.) 08 Mar 2019
08 Mar 2019 19:20:49
Fingers crossed for a smooth recovery for the lad. He'll be like a new signing next season for us should he keep fit.


6.) 08 Mar 2019
08 Mar 2019 20:00:41
RedWolf is absolutely right. Not uncommon to pick up additional niggles and strains when returning from such a long lay off. The hamstrings offer a stabilising effect to the knee similar to that of the acl when under tension. Hamstrings rehab will have been intense and that may increase risk of fatigue. As far as match involvement there will be regular acceleration/ deceleration movements that can be replicated in training but the endurance aspect of the game on top of that probably wouldn’t be. Those elements of rehab would often be performed in isolation. Match scenarios would recently have been implemented in training but it’s very unlikely they would reach maximum intensity particularly from the recovering player. It’s only really during competitive activity the the individual will not hold back and tend to switch off from their injury.

Cheers.

{Ed025's Note - great insight there Dr greggers..nice one mate..


7.) 08 Mar 2019
08 Mar 2019 20:34:25
And chance of getting back to pre-injury level of fitness and especially performance Greggers?


8.) 08 Mar 2019
08 Mar 2019 21:52:50
Very difficult to say with such a complex injury. The odds probably aren’t stacked in his favour given the extent of the injury, however with continued improvements in surgical techniques and post operative protocols there is certainly a chance. I think a lot of patience will be required especially given the psychological recovery needed also. Assuming he doesn’t suffer any major setbacks in his recovery it may be a year plus before we see him at his best. Every case is different though. I think the best thing is for us fans to not place to much expectation on his performances and afford him time.

Cheers.


9.) 08 Mar 2019
08 Mar 2019 22:13:58
Brilliant greggers.


10.) 08 Mar 2019
08 Mar 2019 22:19:24
Great post Greggers, thank you.


11.) 08 Mar 2019
08 Mar 2019 22:20:44
Are you a brick layer by any chance Greggers. 🤔

No seriously, you sound well informed on this and thanks for your input, it does make a lot of sense what your saying.


12.) 09 Mar 2019
08 Mar 2019 22:40:32
Tried roofing with the old man but ultimately I was crap, probably would have caused more leaks and couldn’t cope with the early starts. Eventually became a physio after realising I wasn’t going to make it as a footballer and figured I would stay involved in footy by being the guy who could run on the pitch with the magic sponge. That never quite materialised but still in the physio field.

More than happy to try and give insight to injuries when I can.

Cheers.


13.) 09 Mar 2019
09 Mar 2019 08:20:21
Nice one mate. Sensible and sobering advice on the Ox’s prognosis.
Whether he comes off a few minutes early in his first game back is neither here or there really, providing it was nothing serious.
But he’s got a difficult road back and, as you say, we should just give the lad a break and support him all the way.
Thanks Greggers, and all the luck in the world to the Ox Man.


14.) 09 Mar 2019
09 Mar 2019 10:44:55
Thanks Greggers 👍
Would I be right in suggesting that the hamstrings are sometimes used to repair the acl? Thought I had heard that somewhere and may explain the Ox’s difficulty.

Great to see him getting a run out. I think he’ll heal psychologically just fine, he seems to have his head screwed on to me 👍.


15.) 09 Mar 2019
09 Mar 2019 13:16:44
Yes hamstrings grafts are commonly used in acl repairs and this can have an impact on maximal strength achieved in the muscle post surgery, however findings are variable on this. It would be more prohibitive to early hamstrings work post surgery rather than now. Given it was a multi-ligament injury I’m not sure whether they would have used natural grafts or allografts (artificial) ones.

Cheers.