19 Jan 2018 07:02:06
I remember this excerpt circulating from Fergies last book where he said he considered signing Hendo, but decided not to because he thought Hendo had an awkward gait which indicated he would have injury issues in the future.

Similarly, i recall that Aly Cissokho failed a few medicals because physicians believed the alignment of his teeth indicated that he would have back problems and teams wouldn't gamble on him.

And for the longest time, a bunch of teams wouldn't sign Demba Ba because it was (supposedly) well known that he had terrible knees. This is why he never commanded very large fees despite being a pretty handy forward.

what i am getting at here is how accurate are these predictions physicians give on seemingly obscure and insignificant diagnoses?

1.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 08:28:48
The teeth thing?!

2.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 09:03:50
I think you will find Hendo is getting some new hinges for his gait.

3.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 09:04:50
2 European cups in 27 years with more resources than any other team in Europe? Pathetic.

4.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 09:40:08
Hi
First time poster. To answer your question Random Red. The accuracy in predicting injuries with tests like that i zero. There are only two factors that gives an established higher injury risk and that is previous injuries and exposure (hours of training and competition/ match) .

I'm a physiotherapist with two masterdegrees, and one of my masterthesis was on the subject of injuryrisk in football, and the other one was on screening for preventing injuries)

Would like to thank all the eds for sharing their amazingly lagre amount of knowledge with us. Keep up the good work :)

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate and I would agree with you totally on that. It is one of the basis of Leicester's recruitment.}

5.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 09:52:25
The teeth thing I believe is to do with nerves. I am sure many years ago Beckham had problems with his back and had to have dental work which in turn over come the problem.

6.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 10:02:05
Weren't SG's early injury (back? ) problems linked to his wisdom teeth in some way? Or am I making that up?

7.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 10:18:12
So it’s safe to say the Bobby Firmino has the best back in the league! 😁.

8.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 10:38:19
You are correct Johnny, he had a few teeth removed in his teens and his back problem went away.

9.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 11:19:33
Thanks Lofotenred
Your opinion on Hendo? was it just a lucky guess?

{Ed001's Note - his injuries are nothing to do with his gait.}

10.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 11:56:43
The teeth excuse was hilarious at the time. It is still funny now.

11.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 13:33:07
Personally I've never had a proper gawk at his teeth. Rumour has it there's better on a witch doctors necklace.

{Ed025's Note - love it mate..

12.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 13:45:27
Lofotenred, your thesis sounds really interesting. Any chance you could send it to the Eds to publish on the site?

13.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 13:47:06
Great post and interesting reading Lofoten - curious on the precedence of previous injuries and if you could elaborate on that. How often does someone who’s had a lot of injuries ever recover to go through a decent patch of full fitness? Are there particular injuries that may recurr more than others?

In particular I’m curious if you would expect Sturridge or Hendo to ever go through a clear spell again or if it’s more likely they’ll always struggle. Would you always advise against recruiting players who have had multiple injuries before or is it ever worth the gamble?

14.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 15:43:14
I wonder if Henderson's injuries are related or purely coincidental. Obviously im no expert injuries can occur after compensating for other injuries and issues. It's just a shame players careers can be blighted this way.

15.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 17:42:46
Sorry for the late reply. I could elaborate a little bit of injuries, but I need a little bit of time, so the eds can publisert it as an article if they want to. There has been a lot of research on football injuries and rehabilitation over the last decades. I´ll put what I found out in my thesis there. Henderson injuries as ed said has nothing to do with his gait or running style, some of the best athletes in the world have all but textbook ways to move. Everyone finds the most efficient way to move according to how their body is built.

Hendo and Sturridge can recover but are more at risk of getting injuries. But that is a complex matter. Injury is not always injury, it is also about cognitive factors like depression, anxiety/ fear, motivation and lots of other factors that drives/ produced pain.

One of the most difficult things in rehab is the last period before return to play where the conditioning of the player has to be close to perfect. Overload or underload of the players can easily be the cause of the injury. That also is a risk factor for overuse injuries in healthy players.

I'll start working on an injury article to publish if the eds are ok with that.

{Ed025's Note - more than ok with it lofoten mate...cheers..

16.) 19 Jan 2018
19 Jan 2018 17:55:32
The whole teeth and backpain assosiation is nonsense. It sounds like old school thinking (like early 1900 century) . Suarez might have given some opponents back pain biting them, but that is also the only connection I see between teeth and back pain :)

17.) 21 Jan 2018
21 Jan 2018 11:36:13
Thanks Lofoten.