25 Oct 2024 08:59:22
Hi eds,
Are the club looking to loan chiesa back to Italy? Not sure how that's going to help him at all and if true seems like chiesa was a buy similar to minamino, one done just because the player was very cheap and could be flipped for profit.
{Ed002's Note - Federico Chiesa (LW/F) Apparently not entirely happy and with injury problems the player could easily be deemed surplus to needs regardless of only joining in the summer. A Richard Hughes mistake, I assume made when Diaz was restless. A loan may make sense.}
1.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 09:44:09
God, what a mess.
What happened Ed? He seems so happy when he joined.
What has made him unhappy?
{Ed002's Note - He has been injured and there is no real place in the side for him.}
2.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 10:34:27
It really is going well with Hughes isn’t it. A worrying January transfer market round the corner for him to have another balls up!
3.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 10:56:43
I remember thinking at the time he must be coming in to replace Diaz, so was surprised when Diaz stayed.
4.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 11:20:59
Slot saying he might resume training today. I still think he has the potential to be a good signing. If he's fit and up to speed (don't forget that he had no pre season at all so was majorly behind the other players even before picking up his injury) he will get minutes and could be a huge benefit over manic Christmas period.
On Wednesday when Mo and Nunez were taken off to prepare for Sunday we lost so much threat up top. The opportunities to impress will be there, hopefully he can take them.
5.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 11:24:26
Not that I doubt Ed’s saying Chiesa is unhappy but the player has to realise
a) he’s had no real pre season,
b) he’s trying to rebuild his footballing career and he’s lucky to be able to do it at a club like Liverpool and
c) he’s injured.
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He has limited his own ability to play more mins by not being match fit and when he could have got games/ mins in recent weeks he’s been injured.
He’s been at the club for a minute and needs to cop himself on.
If he stays match fit there will be ample mins for him this season.
6.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 11:58:20
He's not happy about being injured? That's not really anyone's fault though is it. Surely he needs to give it a chance. All seems a bit premature.
7.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 13:11:23
Crazy when pegged as signing of the summer. Plenty of opportunities to play over the season if he gets himself fit. Hopefully will get some minutes in carabao cup next week.
8.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 17:19:22
It always seemed very clear that 6 established attackers is too many. I never understood this move even though I like the player.
9.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 18:02:48
I don't know how so many people believe the crap that journos say. Its like some don't understand that journos have to keep themselves in a job by making up stuff that will get clicks or sell papers. Some just seem to want an excuse to slate hughes and/ or the club. I very much doubt chiesa will go out on loan in jan, when have we ever bought a senior player and loaned them out 6 months later? Utter tripe.
10.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 18:14:31
Ben Davies 2021.
11.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 18:15:54
Christ almighty he's been here 2 minutes after missing pre season. He'll be fine especially with the little sum we paid for him.
12.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 18:16:35
A non story for me.
13.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 19:57:07
Writing players off after 5 minutes is typical of the press/ rumour mongers.
Lets give Fede a chance .
14.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 20:04:41
Correct endo, that transfer was for emergency cover with a transfer fee of less than a million, not a Italian Euros winner. Regardless, I stand by my opinion this story is a load of bull.
15.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 21:01:54
It’s probably a bit more like Arthur if anything. That said it’s different circumstances and I agree it’s just the Italian press throwing excrement at a wall to see if anything sticks.
The most positive thing about the thread is an attack on Hughes - we haven’t seen one for a while, so it’s nice to see a bit of knife sharpening before the January window.
16.) 25 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 21:48:37
Chiesa just remind me of Aquilani.
17.) 26 Oct 2024
26 Oct 2024 08:10:33
@Lee, very insightful call as they are both Italian footballers.
@Longthing, what would yo say is going wrong at the club? Genuine question.
We are top of the PL, joint top of the CL qualification table and have got off to the best start to a season in at least 3 and a half decades. That’s not speculation from either over or under cooked imaginations or expert (for want of a better phrase) pundit analysis or Spanish / Italian press agendas or nutters on fans forums passing their uninformed opinions off as fact - it’s actual fact.
18.) 26 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 18:06:51
Ed2, could Chiesa even be loaned out in Jan? I thought there were limits on the number of clubs a player could play for within a set time frame?
{Ed002's Note - Yes, he has not played for Juventus this season.}
19.) 26 Oct 2024
25 Oct 2024 20:59:40
Evening ed002.
Do you mean the player isn’t happy or the club isn’t happy?
Cheers
Drogie.
{Ed002's Note - I rather doubt either are happy with the situation. The player, when fit, is not getting chances at Liverpool and it is difficult to see how he fits in to the team.}
20.) 26 Oct 2024
26 Oct 2024 09:56:52
It was always a dumb signing.
Don’t sign injured players.
Haven’t we learned our lesson yet?
Besides that, he was never good enough in my opinion.
21.) 26 Oct 2024
26 Oct 2024 09:58:47
Quite a fascinating thread. A clear difference between those who believe anything they read (especially if it paints the club in a negative light) and those who realise that a rumour is just exactly that and question it.
22.) 26 Oct 2024
26 Oct 2024 10:14:01
@mftonjes, of the 6, Jota and Chiesa are out injured and Diaz seems to being managed due to fatigue. At the moment it looks like we have Gakpo, Nunez and Salah. If either Nunez / Gakpo as left and central attackers are injured or Mo on the right the 6 becomes 2 and with about another 100 matches between now and the end of the year it is unlikely to get better.
23.) 26 Oct 2024
26 Oct 2024 12:37:31
I'm not entierly sure I believe any of this, apart from him and the club being unhappy with his injuries.
I may be a game out but I'm sure he has only been available for 4 or 5 games, 2 of which he came of the bench and I think it was 1 or 2 starts as well. So the game time for me is a moot point. It may be doen to poisition because he has played centrally more than on the wing.
24.) 26 Oct 2024
26 Oct 2024 14:37:54
I am surprised by this rumour. He got a start vs West Ham and then got injured. I don't think he's been available for selection since then so I don't see how he can be frustrated with anything other than the injury.
If he was available, I suspect he would have been the sub for Salah on Wednesday, rather than Lucho. And if fit, he will presumably be in line to start vs Brighton in the cup. Mo's minutes have to be managed after all.
Seems like a non-story to me. Unless he thinks he is not injured. Or perhaps he doesn't like the food, weather or dying pit ponies. Ed's favourite reasons.
25.) 27 Oct 2024
26 Oct 2024 22:58:02
He’s never going to be fit enough to play in the premier league. He needs to go to France or Holland or Saudi. The game is too intense over here, if you’re a sicknote then you’re wasting everyone’s time.
It was a desperation signing, total waste of money.
He reminds me more of Jean Michel Ferri.
26.) 27 Oct 2024
27 Oct 2024 01:23:58
Completely agree with you Ron.
27.) 27 Oct 2024
27 Oct 2024 04:58:21
For those who said its just press talk, I didn't hear it via the press. He came up in conversation with someone who is part of management structure at an Italian club. I didn't even know it was in the press when I asked the question.
28.) 27 Oct 2024
27 Oct 2024 09:55:47
Thanks Nev ?.