31 Jan 2022 23:30:52
Hi can anyone tell me now that the carvalho deal has fallen through why we don't go back in for him in the summer when he is a free agent? Why don't we want to go to a tribunal?
Thanks guys 👍🏼.

1.) 31 Jan 2022
31 Jan 2022 23:43:34
Think it's because they'll be a lot more teams in for him mate. And how much is the fee going to be to Fulham then.
Either way I hope we get the lad now, if we don't go back in for him it will be shocking by liverpool.

2.) 31 Jan 2022
31 Jan 2022 23:45:09
We'll probably do exactly that, but we can't legally talk to him about it until the summer.

3.) 01 Feb 2022
01 Feb 2022 04:43:06
Paul Joyce and Neil Jones both reporting that a pre-agreement can be reached if all parties agree. I suppose the difference is foreign clubs don't need Fulham's agreement. It's in their interest that he stays in the country otherwise they will get next to nothing for him.

4.) 01 Feb 2022
01 Feb 2022 09:02:18
Disappointing…. But if the lad really wants to play for Liverpool he’ll sign a pre-contract when possible.
If he wants to wait and see what other offers he gets, I’d walk away .
We got the main man anyway …. So a great Window for us.

5.) 01 Feb 2022
01 Feb 2022 05:58:31
So from what I can understand, this is no longer in Fulham's hands if no pre-agreement can be reached. They've shot themselves in the foot.

It is basically in Fabio's hands now. If he wants to come to us, we have a deal, otherwise he is free to choose to go elsewhere and Fulham will get a lot less (not his problem) .

The only advantage for us now seems to be that he was interested in joining us. But if that were the case, we could have waited till July in any case.

We'll see if he wants to come to us when every club in Europe is beating down his door and offering a nice package.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool cannot have a pre-agreement and have no "deal". Other clubs will continue to seek a pre-agreement.}

6.) 01 Feb 2022
01 Feb 2022 10:55:51
With Nico going on loan to Fulham do not be surprised if this is part of a private "arrangement" to get first option on him in the summer. Fulham may get promoted and be in a position to want to buy. This could suit both parties.

7.) 01 Feb 2022
01 Feb 2022 11:46:45
I think we’ll make a deal on the opening day of the summer transfer window before the contract expires on the same terms as previously agreed.

8.) 01 Feb 2022
01 Feb 2022 11:49:35
He'll be a Liverpool player come the summer its what all parties want.

9.) 01 Feb 2022
01 Feb 2022 12:15:10
Exactly Jadon. I’m confident on this. Hopefully we’ve repaired the damage done previously with these negotiations. The summer transfer window opens second week of June, Carvalho’s contract expires at the end, so let’s just present the same offer straight away and get it done. (Without wishing to sound like the blonde Tory plank Boris Johnson) . By all accounts the lad has set himself on this so it’s more likely than not.

10.) 01 Feb 2022
01 Feb 2022 15:55:33
According to extremely reputable sources, the deal fell through because the EFL doesn't allow "deal sheets" (his loan back for the rest of the season to Fulham) . He had a medical yesterday with an eye to the deal going through late but all parties missed the boat as the additional paperwork was required. it is understood that the deal WILL go through finally in summer. the lad wants it, terms are agreed, his agent wants it and Fulham want it.

11.) 01 Feb 2022
01 Feb 2022 18:09:51
Hey Ed02 - thanks for the update.

Is it only In this country where you are unable to agree a deal with another club for a future transfer? I seem to remember Bayern for example agreeing a deal in February to buy Upamencano in that coming summer.

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - No it is to do with dealing directly with a player and his agent when they are becoming free agents - clubs can agree future transfers. So, for example, Liverpool can agree a future move for any player, out of contract or not, with Fulham, but cannot approach any to be out of contract player directly about a transfer until the end of the season, May. But non-English and Welsh sides can approach the player directly from January - equally, that applies across Europe.}