18 Jul 2018 00:36:42
Hello reds and eds. I honestly don't see us buying both fekir and Alisson Becker. I have a feeling that we'll be signing one of both. this of course doesn't mean one can do the job of the other but putting into context the cost of both transfer coupled with our already existing buys, our bloated squad of players we've had a hard time selling, FFP and of course the added pressure of playing having spent so much in the summer. highest spending spree in one summer in Liverpool history. I think we'll sign only one if them. I think we'll get Becker and that for me sums up a very good window.


1.) 18 Jul 2018
18 Jul 2018 05:20:58
Why is there so much focus on money? The club is rich, having hardly spent (Coutinho), and then the CL windfall. There is also loads coming from sales and loan fees (Ings, Sturridge, origi) .


2.) 18 Jul 2018
18 Jul 2018 05:58:46
Rich? You think so? Ed002 has frequently pointed out that we've been 'overstretching' recently.


3.) 18 Jul 2018
18 Jul 2018 06:29:24
That is true Johnny but Ed001 has said that FSG know what they are going in terms of money being spent to me only yesterday.


4.) 18 Jul 2018
18 Jul 2018 06:48:40
The club financial statements speak louder than an opinion. Liverpool are miles away from FFP sanctions because they are rolling in excess cash.
£60m in CL prize money, £150m in EPL prize money, increased gameday revenue after expansion.
The club can afford any players they want.


5.) 18 Jul 2018
18 Jul 2018 08:01:59
Financial statements? the last ones published related to the period up to 31/ 5/ 17 so none of the CL revenue would have been accounted for, plus they showed an increase in net debt of £45m (Up from £22m to £67m) . I'm unsure that the words 'rolling in excess cash' and 'can afford any players they want' are not really true.


6.) 18 Jul 2018
18 Jul 2018 08:19:06
"WE'RE LOADED". Are some of you serious! Get used to big players joining, this is the Klopp effect. We are back people and we are only going to get better and better.


7.) 18 Jul 2018
18 Jul 2018 08:27:54
Yes, in those statements, it was £18m increase in debt while £50m was spent on the stadium and £90m on players. Therefore there is over £100m more available cash this season than that season. Remember that was the season Mane and Wijnaldum were purchased and there was 0 CL revenue.

{Ed001's Note - more cash available? Oh people really do not understand finances do they? Utter nonsense and fantasy figures.}


8.) 18 Jul 2018
18 Jul 2018 08:56:47
I do understand finance. Have a masters in it. The Financial statements are easy to read. Perhaps you should take a look. The actual prize revenues from last season, and available for next are publicly available. Compare the seasons and the facts 1. The stadium isn't being redeveloped again, 2. We have CL revenues - last year substantially higher than what would've been expected and increased for next season, 3. Corporate revenues continue to increase.
How can anyone claim the club isn't cashed up, at least enough to buy 2 more players?

{Ed002's Note - You might want to give your "Masters" back. You clearly have no idea about the Liverpool finances. How much has Liverpool been paid for Coutinho? How much are Liverpool committed to pay for players purchased in the past? How much money is owed on the stadium? Are the wages compliant with FFP?}


9.) 18 Jul 2018
18 Jul 2018 09:28:53
Most of those points are irrelevant - such as debt. There is no debt problem. The Coutinho money is incoming not outgoing. Of course the club is compliant with FFP. It would take a Neymar like purchase to change that.
I guess we will wait and see.
If the club do make 2 big purchases in the next 6 months, I do expect to see some sort of statement of how little you guys understand of business finance. To claim that an extra £100+m in revenue won't effect the clubs recruitment is laughable.

{Ed001's Note - you really have no idea what you are talking about at all. This is embarrassing. Have you even considered the increase in the wages at all? No because you are wasting everyone's time with pure ignorance.}


10.) 18 Jul 2018
18 Jul 2018 09:55:01
Christ christos your coming across as a right smug git.


11.) 18 Jul 2018
18 Jul 2018 10:09:18
He is - from the clubs own website:

"following the continued cash investment in players and capital infrastructure, net bank debt increased by £22m to £67m"

so borrowing increased to buy players and, I'm guessing, to do the stadium work.


12.) 18 Jul 2018
18 Jul 2018 10:19:08
When it comes to finances I'd trust what the Ed's say and know because they will understand a lot more than us fans!

{Ed001's Note - I have to say it is Ed002 that knows his stuff in this regard, he taught me a lot in our early discussions on the site, which is why I asked him to become one of the first group of editors.}


13.) 18 Jul 2018
18 Jul 2018 10:26:36
Reference club finances, I am really quite relaxed about how a group of billionaire businessmen, with a proven track record of the successful management of another huge sporting institution, are managing LFC. They haven’t done such a bad job so far.


14.) 18 Jul 2018
18 Jul 2018 10:39:37
Wirral Wonder - agree on FSG so far, absolutely, I think they are doing a great job. It does make me laugh when folk say things like 'we can buy who we want', that's just BS, we're really nowhere near the spending power of MCFC, MUFC, PSG, RM, etc.


15.) 18 Jul 2018
18 Jul 2018 12:47:34
We won't be spending the amount we have been spending recently, year on year anyway. I may be wrong but in my mind we're building a stock of top players to attain the success required to keep the club ticking over with top players as they come and go over the years. Large up front payment now, increase club status, revenue increases, club competes at a regular higher level and becomes self sustaining. Possibly risky, but these guys are pros and know what they are doing. The debt is nothing to worry about. Pretty much anyone who owns a house has debt. It doesn't mean that the debt is indicative of any financial plight, more a means to an end.