23 Jan 2018 16:42:37
Hi Eds,

Have you heard anything about Lazar Markovic leaving for Aston Villa during this transfer window?

{Ed001's Note - Markovic is available and we have had a number of enquiries from the Championship but the player is not keen on dropping down. Perhaps they could persuade him with the fact they are in the running for automatic promotion but only he could know his thoughts on that.}


1.) 23 Jan 2018
23 Jan 2018 17:50:12
Thanks for the reply Ed. He needs to be playing football so will hopefully get a move this window.


2.) 23 Jan 2018
23 Jan 2018 19:37:46
Luckily he's still young enough to reignite his career. Had he been 5 years older we'd of probably ruined his career, ket's hope he gets a move this month.


3.) 23 Jan 2018
23 Jan 2018 20:10:35
Will we be buying a replacement ed or will Klopp just get another cone or something?

{Ed001's Note - harsh mate. There is no need to replace him though.}


4.) 23 Jan 2018
23 Jan 2018 20:15:25
Careers are ruined by a number of factors and not by a club.

Why a club receives the blame is beyond me.

I would suggest that a players ability, agent advice or serious injury ruins a career, not a club who promises then pays a "professional" to conduct his/ her business only to realise that they themselves have made a poor signing.

Not a club's fault.


5.) 23 Jan 2018
23 Jan 2018 20:24:28
I know ed. Couldn't resist. I really hope he goes on to fulfil his potential.

{Ed001's Note - he hasn't impressed, not sure he has all that much potential personally.}


6.) 23 Jan 2018
23 Jan 2018 20:28:47
I would say not all a clubs fault Dave and I agree with your post. Clubs don’t sign players that they don’t think are going to be good enough. However, clubs could and should perhaps be a little more realistic with prices when looking to move players on that they don’t deem good enough. I think the eds have said that we’ve priced the likes of markovich out of moves by trying to get our money back when we could have been more realistic.


7.) 23 Jan 2018
23 Jan 2018 21:10:30
@Davey Sulls.

Quality mate, quality!

Take a bow son!


8.) 24 Jan 2018
23 Jan 2018 23:53:59
Clubs aren't wholly responsible, but they certainly play a part. And it's not just about money. We bought Lazar a year too early, perhaps more, if I recall what Ed002 said correctly. He was a squad player for us rather than getting regular playing time and developing in another league. We bought him knowing he wasn't ready, because we wanted to beat other clubs to him. And has been mentioned, our loan system is very dissimilar to the more successful structures. I love LFC, but they definitely didn't do everything they could to ensure this man a successful career.


9.) 24 Jan 2018
24 Jan 2018 08:11:39
He played for more or less a full season under Rodgers, played in most games and never showed up in 95% of them - I'm afraid you're blinkered if you think the club is fully at fault for his poor output.

He's also rumoured to be a very bad trainer, is that the club's fault too, or maybe we can blame his previous clubs for that?
No? How about blaming Sporting/ Hull/ Fenerbace?

Last time I checked, clubs were not responsible for how a player develops, the player is - do we take all the credit for Coutinho?!
That'd be quite arrogant wouldn't it?


10.) 24 Jan 2018
24 Jan 2018 11:48:55
Olrish, you completely made that up. He’s made 19 appearances for LFC in TOTAL . How’s is that playing 95% games in a season where we played 50 -60 games?

I taking a guess here ( not making it up) but I would say about half of those were sub appearances and being played in a wing back position ( not he’s position) we’ve Totally ruined the guy and need to take responsibility for it. Is it not the club that is over pricing him out of permanent moves? So they don’t rate him but want a load of money for him. Makes loads of sense.

Clubs are totally responsibly for how players develop. Why would clubs commit to 20 million and wages of probably a couple of mil a year just to say you’re on your own- put the work in or you’re out!? Why invest without a development plan for a player that is not ready and needs development?


11.) 24 Jan 2018
24 Jan 2018 11:52:31
He needs to be realistic now and take a step down to championship football for a season.


12.) 24 Jan 2018
24 Jan 2018 13:01:22
Swishcleaner,
Are you not able to read or just choose not to?
I clearly said he played for a full season under Rodgers, where did I say that he played in every game?

He played 19 LEAGUE matches in actual fact mate, not to mention cup appearances.
How many of the 20 or so appearances did he take the match by the scruff of the neck then? Answer - None!

So out of, let's round it off at a nice 20 matches, he played out of his skin exactly zero times, this actually gives him a 100% record, so you're right, I was out by 5% and he was absolutely, completely useless, not just the 95% useless I mentioned earlier - thanks for clearing that up and correcting me.

Again I'll ask, how exactly is that the club's fault that he was that useless when he came full of promise?
Why did he not train harder?
Do we accept all of the glory then for Coutinho's development?

Stop being a sheep mate and think for yourself.


13.) 24 Jan 2018
24 Jan 2018 18:20:30
Kev, Rodgers played him at wing back, if he really wanted a wing back, then he should have bought one, for me, Rodgers played him out of his true position, as he did other players .


14.) 24 Jan 2018
24 Jan 2018 20:52:42
He is still a pro but didn't act like it.
He also only played Wing Back in the 2nd half of the season off and on when we had an injury crisis upfront leading to a formation change.
He was woeful on the wing and even got sent off against Basel in our make or break final match of the group in the Champions League, we only drew and were eliminated.
He never played well for us whatever position he played in.
Didn't exactly set the world on fire on loan in weaker leagues either did he?!

I stand by my original point, Liverpool didn't ruin the lad, he's in control of his own performances once out on the pitch and they've been poor.
His application on the training field was no better apparently.
Some players just don't fulfil the potential that was believed to be in them or sometimes develop later after dropping down a level or two.


15.) 24 Jan 2018
24 Jan 2018 22:32:07
That's harsh Kev. He was hard done by seeing red in that match. Lots of young players need time to settle into a new club, country, league etc. Perhaps it was clear from the outset that he didn't have as much ability as expected. Maybe there are other reasons that we're not aware of as to why he's not made more than 1 ap on the bench this season. We don't know, but it is clear that in the very few games he played for us he was seldom used in his preferred position. He impressed at times in the match away to Madrid, and when it was clear the club didn't see a future for him they priced him out of a number of other potential moves.
I'm not trying to do the club down, and I'm not suggesting had he been allowed to leave to another club 18 months ago permanently that he'd be a star, but lfc got this wrong.


16.) 25 Jan 2018
25 Jan 2018 06:41:45
They got the transfer wrong for sure Matty, but there's not much they can do once he's here other than play him, then it's up to him and he played terribly.
You cannot blame the club for that mate, he didn't take his chance.

All good players adapt, even to new countries, or just positions on the pitch.
We've seen it so many times in the past here and elsewhere, Firmino here for example, Coutinho, Gerrard - off the top of my head, they all were asked to change position and did so still playing well.

There's many, many others who have, but they're good players - Markovic unfortunately is not a very good player and is unlikely to ever be, but who knows what the future holds for the lad?!