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22 Oct 2020 20:31:18
Not saying it's true but read reports we are actively seeking to seal a deal for Upermecano now for his release clause of 36.5.
Apparently we want it done so he can move on 1st January, not saying it's true but that's what I have read. Anyone know if there is any truth to this?

I wouldn't mind him to be honest and I personally think it will be one of Upermecano, Carlos, Kabak or White.

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22 Oct 2020 20:58:56
Seeing as the release clause comes into effect next summer I doubt we’d be getting that.

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22 Oct 2020 22:26:42
Release clauses have no relevancy to English clubs. Could bid £100m and the offer still be rejected.

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22 Oct 2020 22:01:50
Are you sure it's TRUE?

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22 Oct 2020 22:05:46
Release clauses usually mean very little for prem clubs it prob only applies to German teams. Seems to low to be true.

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20 Oct 2020 14:40:08
Good afternoon ed002,
I understand you have probable had many many messages coming through regarding this new European premier league proposal. If im not mistaken I think you have said previously this was on the cards for a breakaway league to be put forward. My question is do you think this could start the end of the Premier league as we know it (even tho I believe its to rival the champions league more than premiership) but if I was hearing correctly its a lot of extra games to be added to the current season. Secondly do you think its the right thing to be looking at or more of a rich getting richer leaving the rest of the teams to fight it out in a less attractive pool?
Appreciate your time as always.

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{Ed002's Note - In the interim it would not impact the Premier League but it will likely kill off the Champions League - and that will likely kill off any support from UEFA.}

20 Oct 2020 15:13:00
Ed002, are the future projected "numbers" (revenues, profits etc etc) for this breakaway league to be larger than those projected for the existing Champions League? Trying to understand what the angle of interest in the breakaway league is.

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{Ed002's Note - The "angle" is that investors (or are not European) have been colluding with the owners of Liverpool to find a way to profit out of football. FSG's interest is money and nothing else. They know the rapid growth in the asset has reduced and they want to keep the value of their investment bouyant which will make it easier to cash in on when they find a better option. It is one of several options I have explained in detail.}

20 Oct 2020 18:09:19
Your view in the past was about the inevitability of a pan-European breakaway Ed002, which obviously had money at its heart?
The pints of wallop and chips and curry for those fans who did not wish to partake of a continental diet?

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{Ed002's Note - The proposal that the "elite" sides have been working on was originally about removing the shackles of UEFA and taking the opportunity to make money. The proposal being discussed today are around a year old and I have discussed them in the past. They have a wealthy businessman and money underwritten by an American bank behind them - and they are using the opportunity to exploit the game via the incumbent owners of a PL club who are interested only in bettering investments, and not the club itself in particular. That is why they are trying to exploit the game for profit.}

20 Oct 2020 19:35:10
Sorry Ed but that is not true. I know Werner and he is absolutely mad about Liverpool.

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{Ed002's Note - It doesn't matter what individuals think - they are not naive and none of these ideas are anything to do with the benefit of the game. You must be incredibly naive if you think it is. I have explained this over and over - you are trying to defend people who want whatever they can get for themselves and their investors - they have had the spectacular growth out of Liverpool and it has now faltterened out - they want it back and if tehy cannot rip off the British and European game to get it, they will sell Liverpool and re-invest elsewhere. THis is an investment business - it is there to make money.}

20 Oct 2020 21:02:17
Thanks for the feedback Ed.
You were always quite complimentary about FSG’s ownership of Liverpool but you seem to have taken much the opposite view, certainly recently?
A large part of our criticism of them was they were never Liverpool-centric, and what you’re saying now really backs that up. And worse than that, not even football centric. American baseball fans first and foremost, which is fair enough but they’d have never appeared over here in the first place if there wasn’t money to be made.

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{Ed002's Note - They have been good owners but you can never forget they are an investment company. They invest their own and other people’s money in order to get the best return on their money. They don’t care about collateral damage. It is no difference than you invention £100 - if bank x gives you 2% interest and bank y gives you 8% interest, where do you put your money?}

20 Oct 2020 23:28:11
I don't like anything about this whole thing. It is a money grab and completely self serving. I'd rather them sell and get owners who have the best interest in the club and community than their own selfish self interests.

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20 Oct 2020 23:30:50
Oh flidby, as a Red Sox fan, I don't trust a word that comes out of Werner's mouth ever since the whole Francona fiasco.

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20 Oct 2020 23:13:25
ed2 - I recall you saying that the game will have to change as it's unsustainable as it is. Is this one of the ideas that will help that?

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{Ed002's Note - This was put up as an option to the breakaway league. It is not new.}

21 Oct 2020 00:16:24
ah right yea, so this is one is backed by FIFA in response to the other breakaway league. Which one will actually help football?

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{Ed002's Note - No. Go back and read what I have previously explained please.}

21 Oct 2020 09:28:48
Thanks Ed002. I'm not surprised by any of this. Nothing new, and it's all around us from morning to night. It's business as usual; make money and maximize shareholder value.

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21 Oct 2020 10:35:25
They need to sell asap.

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21 Oct 2020 11:33:18
The fickleness of fans is unbelievable. "they need to sell ASAP"? Really. A few weeks ago everyone was on here raving about FSG. Fans need to get over this issue of owners not wanting the best for the club. Football is a business and always will be. What top 6 club is owned by a "local" fan? If FSG are only interested in money, common sense says they will leave the club in a healthy state in order to maximize their sell on profit.

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21 Oct 2020 12:12:55
How is it being fickle? the owners are coming out and trying to change football and not for the good. they are being selfish and not thinking about the negative impact of their selfishness. So what that a few weeks ago people supported them. Things change. Any negative pushback that they get is deserved based on this silly European Premier League nonsense. I agree with Lancaster.

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21 Oct 2020 12:22:46
No Stuie-boy i've not supported FSG for a longtime, they have always been about the money not the club, they got it for a steal and will get massive profit if they sold to people who would invest in the team year on year and not make us sell to have money.

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21 Oct 2020 13:03:59
LR, I hate to dissapoint but the vast majority of people that buy football clubs will want to make a profit.

We are in a position of selling to buy because of C.V. nothing the owners could do about that one.

As for investing they have spent money on the infrastructure of the club and improving the squad with wages etc. I would rather they spend within their means then shaft us and we end up in the championship (leeds Wigan etc) because our finances are shot.

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22 Oct 2020 07:52:27
Like it or not, Football these days is about making money. Gone are the days where football and fans comes first and money second. Without money coming in, how can a club be sustainable? How can fans demand clubs to buy and pay the best players a good sum if they are broke? Maybe if the owners are rich like certain clubs and take this football thing as a hobby and not an investment.

If LFC is seen as an 'investment' then definitely the owners will see how they can milk their way to making more money. I guess EDs hit the nail on the head by comparing where you'd want to place your money. On something that gives a bigger return or something that gives you less or a negative return?

Being football fans, we care about the game but sadly with owners, that is not always the case.

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22 Oct 2020 10:14:06
Stone, I think you're spot on mate.

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22 Oct 2020 13:23:28
Ta Salah.

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23 Oct 2020 00:14:01
Ed2 talked about naivety and I agree. Too many are stuck in the past and want the owners to be ‘fans’ who are happy to lose money as long as the team is successful.
I’m sorry guys that just doesn’t exist anymore. Even Chelsea and City’s Uber rich owners have invested in the infrastructure of the clubs to increase revenue to make it sustainable and make a profit.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with any owner trying to maximise their investment because in order to do that you need a successful, profitable business which is what all of us fans want too.
Maybe on this occasion they are barking up the wrong tree but as a business owner myself I know that you are constantly thinking or new ways to increase profit and reduce overheads. You might have loads of ideas running at the same time, some come to fruition and some don’t but that doesn’t mean you just stop trying to progress.

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20 Oct 2020 14:37:01
Ed2 a European premier league to start in 2022?

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{Ed002's Note - In theory nothing can happen before 2024.}

20 Oct 2020 15:17:25
Thanks ed2.

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20 Oct 2020 14:21:51
Hi Ed2, you have spoken about this for a while now. I value your insight in such matters over main stream media so wanted to get some information if you don't mind. Apologies if you have answered this elsewhere but has there been significant movement in this European Premier League as the media are now reporting or is there a far way to go for this becoming a reality? Appreciating anything you can share on this.

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{Ed002's Note - This relates to one of the ideas floated as an alternative to try and stop the "elite" European sides breaking away to form a pan-European league. I have explained the proposal before but it surrounds expanding the pre-season International Champions Cup to a much larger event where clubs would be members of the tournament through a debenture type system but need to commit to playing their first team in all games. Those behind it want UEFA (or even FIFA) to formally recognise the tournament (there has been a discussion already) which would be a money spinner but will add many more first team games to the annual schedule. This was one of the major drivers behind the Liverpool owners proposing Project Big Foot - which was obviously nothing to do with helping out the football pyramid but simply a way for FSG to extract more money from the game. I have explained in more detail previously.}

22 Oct 2020 10:29:19
To be fair, you make it sound like it’s all FSG, when Man Utd’s owners were also heavily involved in the proposal.

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20 Oct 2020 12:48:23
Ed002 if Liverpool have the funds, though unlikely as it may seem, to buy a centre half in January 2021, who do you think is the most likely target? Thanks in advance for reply.

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{Ed002's Note - I cannot sensibly answer most likely questions but you are aware of players Liverpool had previously shown an interest in and it would make sense to boost the Home Grown quota if they do look to an addition - but that has to be offset against cost and clubs not planning on selling in January. The likes of Dael Fry, Ben White and Ben Godfrey have been of interest in the past - only White would potentially make the grade as the srater Klopp wants (e.g. Diego Carlos or Lisandro Martinez). Whilst clubs are already trying to firm up their plans for next summer, I am not aware that Liverpool have started to enquire about CBs.}

20 Oct 2020 10:16:48
Not a rumour but just a suggestion. At the moment there is a lot of talk about needing homegrown talent, so have why not consider Connor Coady. I assume he would be quite expensive so I do not expect it to happen, but he is a Scouser who started life out at Liverpool, has developed in my opinion in to a top class centre back. He is very vocal, which I think is needed with Matip and Gomez as our other options.

Just a suggestion but wondered if other people agreed?

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{Ed002's Note - Coady is not just home grown but he is also "club developed" by Liverpool which is what is giving the club issues right now and going forward. I would howver doubt that the player would be interested in returning to Liverpool to effectively become cover when his career is going very well and he is a starter at Wolves.}

20 Oct 2020 12:00:04
Would he be cover? He is arguably better than Gomez so could start.

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{Ed002's Note - He is not one of the CBs that Liverpool has shown any interest in.}

20 Oct 2020 12:20:45
He was gated out by LFC why would he leave a well ran club where he’s captain loved and adored?
He’s a scouser so bring him back?
He built back up his career well done to him leave him be!

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20 Oct 2020 12:27:01
Merely a suggestion of someone who would solve a lot of issues for us and I think Is a very good cb.

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20 Oct 2020 12:31:07
No, not for me.
He’s a decent player as a ‘sweeper’ type in a back 3 but not for our system with a high (ish) line of defence. He’s not got the pace for that.

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20 Oct 2020 16:00:26
Agree with you on that, Juicer. I know a lot of Wolves supporters who rate Coady but say he lacks pace.

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19 Oct 2020 12:13:28
ed2 - when a club loses a player for a number of months and potentially the season, do they have the option to kind of de-register them to free up a roster space?

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{Ed002's Note - Unless they have space in their squad, he cannot be replaced until January - they cannot deregister him until January. There are no HG free agents available that would even come close to the likes of Williams and Phillips. It is an unfortunate injury, clubs have to deal with things like this all of the time.}

19 Oct 2020 12:51:22
If we can’t cope with a player being injured, leading player or not, then we have issues bigger than VVD.

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19 Oct 2020 16:30:22
Glass half full is that Alisson is back in training and should be back soon, having a top class keeper behind Matip and Gomez will make a huge difference. As for Prickford, hopefully karma will even itself out on him.

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19 Oct 2020 23:41:56
Ok so I think we need to be logical about VVDs injury. Last season we won the league by 18 points. Is his absence going to lose us that many points. Probably not. But he’s a massive loss and others have to step up to the plate. I hate to say it, but in united’s hay day that’s what their players did regularly. Klopp will find way.

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20 Oct 2020 02:29:54
Thanks ed was just interested to know as they do have this provision in american sports.
Cheers.

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20 Oct 2020 10:29:05
lakes4 - we didn't start the season with an 18 point head start.

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20 Oct 2020 15:23:02
That's the whole idea behind a squad of 25, isn't it? And to build a squad of 25 (not just 11) that is as cohesive and similar in quality as possible, so that there's no let down when injuries happen. ManC did just fine without De Bruyne one season, and without Laporte the other. And Aguero is not fit half the time. Suck it up and move forward. Let the chips fall where they may.

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21 Oct 2020 05:33:14
ArAy . but theh didn't do just give without Laporte, they lost 8 or 9 games and finishes 18 points adrift of us, . They needed to take fernandinho into the back and thus losing out in his midfield strenghts, I hope we don't suffer from Fabinho possibly being unavailable to play his best role every week.

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21 Oct 2020 09:35:20
Agreed Har_red. But they came in second, and were still a potent force during the season. I suspect you're going to see a title winner with at least 8-9 loses this year. Compressed shorter season, no home-field advantage to speak of, players in and out due to catching c. v., and the usual injuries. I don't see how any team can play consistently in the face of such havoc and disruption.

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19 Oct 2020 09:18:12
Ed002 you think interest could now develop in a free agent CB like Ezequiel Garay?

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{Ed002's Note - No. Liverpool cannot sign him.}

19 Oct 2020 09:52:22
Even if we could sign Garay, we'd be replacing a player out with a cruciate ligament injury with one recovering from a cruciate ligament injury.

When someone good is on a free, do people not think to check why?

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19 Oct 2020 10:40:35
Just for clarification, do you mean that we can't sign Garay specifically, or can we not sign any of the current free agents at all?

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{Ed002's Note - Can't sign any free agents.}

19 Oct 2020 10:00:01
10 years ago he’d have been ok. The bloke is 34 and not really going to cope well in the PL at his age.

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19 Oct 2020 12:42:29
OK Ed. 02, thanks for replying.

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19 Oct 2020 12:59:55
Yeah just scraping the barrel for short-term solutions really. Of course Fabinho and the youngsters will have to do it for now. So fingers crossed the Thiago news is good and Matip stays fit for once. Could maybe sign Rüdiger on loan in January.

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