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24 Jun 2019 22:49:15
We have decided to change the Teams page to be the Liverpool Match Posts page, so look for posts talking about the latest Liverpool match there.

But most of the posts still go to the Liverpool Banter page.

24 Jun 2019 22:49:15
Also more posts are being added to the Liverpool Discussion Posts and the More Liverpool Posts pages.

24 Jun 2019 21:37:39
Pepe 1st interview leaked online . Is this Fekir mk 2 or is he signing or is it a hoax . Time will tell I suppose.

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24 Jun 2019 21:54:30
Pépé 1st interview leaked online? Ha Ha Jesus Christ please stop.

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24 Jun 2019 21:58:32
The image looked fake.

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24 Jun 2019 22:04:07
Technology these days eh.

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24 Jun 2019 22:05:09
Just saying what I’ve seen . Until I see the melwood lean I believe nothing these days .

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24 Jun 2019 19:13:17
Afternoon Eds.

The Times (via Paul Joyce) are running a story about Mignolet, they say the decision has been made that he is staying for the coming season.

Do you have any further info on him at all?

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{Ed002's Note - Sorry - nothing new.}

24 Jun 2019 20:38:35
No worries, thanks for the reply.

I'm assuming he has 2+ years left on his contract so as a lamen I guess that allowing for his wages (minus that of his replacements) and resale value reduction it wouldn't be too much of an issue and one less piece of the pre season puzzle to worry about. That being if he was truly happy to be second string. His professionalism has been nothing short of outstanding this season so i’d be very happy if it was true.

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24 Jun 2019 22:05:16
I can only assume we will allow him to go IF we find a replacement and IF the offer is right for both us and Mignolet.

As much as I love his commitment and putting the team first, surely he needs to be looking for 1st team football elsewhere?

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23 Jun 2019 20:07:52
Ed002, is there any new info regarding Bruno Fernandes of Sporting Lisbon? It seems the news about him has died down significantly. I expect the more likely destination for the player is Man United however have Liverpool stepped up interest or spoken to the club?

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed except Spurs getting miffed and stepping back.}

23 Jun 2019 23:33:34
Thanks for the reply. Wonder what the reason was for Spurs getting "miffed". Guessing it was to do with Sporting asking for too much money.

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24 Jun 2019 00:03:45
he is going to man utd, where as well as getting the wages he wants, he will be a guaranteed starter every week.

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24 Jun 2019 07:49:45
Why would you play for a league 2 side?

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24 Jun 2019 08:09:28
He is off to Utd MonkeyMad.

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24 Jun 2019 16:41:51
Wow, 9 people disagreed so far to my post about Fernandez going to Utd lol. Anyone of those 9 care to discuss please?

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24 Jun 2019 18:32:13
I didn't disagree but how are you so certain?

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24 Jun 2019 19:18:43
Because we haven’t approached his club or agent or made any offer we’re as both teams in Manchester have and talks are ongoing and possibly now close to an agreement with Utd. We ain’t spending 70M on one player and we have Kieta and Ox next season who didn’t get any game time this season mate. Everything that Ed’s has said on here points to a deal with Utd.

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24 Jun 2019 20:45:54
Looks like Fernandes are getting close to sign to Liverpool? Odds have been slashed by bookies.

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24 Jun 2019 21:44:25
Slashed by the bookies to get fools to put their money on it.

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24 Jun 2019 21:51:07
i literally forget the like/ dislike button is there until someone has a moment about the number of dislikes their post got hahahah.

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24 Jun 2019 22:20:51
Faithinworks tbh they are all actually thumbs up mate lol. I’m used to it being up or down so happy with all these likes lol.

Fernandez is off to Utd. I would put money on it if I was a gambler.

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23 Jun 2019 11:14:08
Ed002, do you perhaps have a chance to give us un update on the latest forwards Liverpool have shown interest in or have things not changed since the last update?

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed as far as I am aware.}

23 Jun 2019 15:21:21
Cornet, Wamangituka and Groeneveld as versatile back ups. Pepe as a Salah replacement if he leaves.

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23 Jun 2019 14:21:14
Thanks Ed.

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23 Jun 2019 14:21:14
Thanks Ed.

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24 Jun 2019 20:06:16
Plain Bread, who is Wamangituka?

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22 Jun 2019 19:29:24
Apparently Pedro Chirivella is pushing for a move to Extremadura.

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22 Jun 2019 21:25:31
Let him go and get his career back on track

Crooky.

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22 Jun 2019 21:25:31
Let him go and get his career back on track

Crooky.

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23 Jun 2019 10:21:14
Feel sorry for the guy, apparently he was potentially being looked at as an option for 6, before we went in big for Fabinho.

Hope he can get a good move away and jump start his career, always had a soft spot for him and canos!

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22 Jun 2019 16:19:17
do you think Kent will end up back at Rangers?

seems as though if he does that could have a negative impact on Ojo's chances of being a regular starter.

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{Ed002's Note - Probably

22 Jun 2019 17:56:00
They played together in the academy for years in the same team.

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23 Jun 2019 10:21:45
But plain what I mean is, if Kent goes back there he will play most games meaning a position Ojo could be earning won’t be there!

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{Ed001's Note - but Ojo and Kent can play a number of positions across the front line, both wide and central. Kent spent the end of the season there playing off Defoe in a central role according to Rangers fans.}

24 Jun 2019 08:29:39
That's a rather odd thing to worry about. One is a left-footed mostly right winger and the other a right-footed mostly left winger. Like if they signed Hoever and Lewis would you be similarly concerned?

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21 Jun 2019 15:02:11
Eds and Reds,

What's the latest on Nathaniel Clyne? I literally just posted about Liverpool rumours on Hakimi and then I thought 'What happens if Clyne sticks around? '

Are we looking at promoting academy players (Hoever), using the squad depth we have (Gomez/ Fabinho) or looking to buy a right back (Hakimi) this summer?

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{Ed002's Note - Right now he has been priced out of a move which limits the options to (a) welcoming him back as cover; (b) dropping the asking price; (c) seeing out his contract on loan - which makes little sense but it does happen occasionally.}

21 Jun 2019 16:08:18
I really hope he does move on for both our sakes, he doesn’t have any drive or commitment to the team!

I’d rather use one of the youth players than him, offers nothing going forward and has done more Baloons than successfully crosses!

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21 Jun 2019 16:17:40
I personally think we should just stick with Trent, Gomez, Hoever, Fabinho and Milner. That's plenty of cover. My concern is left back where the only players we have who have played for the first team at all are Robbo and Milner. Milner shouldn't have to be relied on so heavily. Maybe we'll give chances to Gallacher, Larouci or Lewis? Larouci is probably the most talented.

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{Ed002's Note - Gomez has played as a LB.}

21 Jun 2019 16:57:34
Good point Ed002. I know people say we need cover but if we're just going to sign somebody else's academy graduate then surely there is an argument to just give one of ours a shot? You never know if someone is good enough until they are given the chance.

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21 Jun 2019 17:24:42
Plain Bread, we are fine at RB but we definetily need cover at LB.

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21 Jun 2019 18:13:49
I tend to agree max but only if it's an actual proven player. I saw links to a young Leeds player with about 5 senior games. I don't see the point in that. Rather give our own teenagers the shot. However if we can get someone like Danilo at City who is a proven pro and is happy to be cover, then go for it I say. Preferably better than Danilo mind you 😂.

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21 Jun 2019 18:29:53
P. B
In Hong Kong, we made a nickname with Cantonese about Danilo, something like "welcome road" in English.

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21 Jun 2019 17:23:05
Ed002, I remember Ed001 saying recently that Bournemouth decided not to buy Clyne because of his lifestyle.

His lifestyle is not that of a professional footballer. I can remember about two seasons ago where Clyne created this video on social media the party life' of him having a piss up in some night club for his Birthday.

Maybe that is also what is making other clubs turning down offers for him?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware Bournemouth saying that.}

21 Jun 2019 18:55:35
Well Clyne's lifestyle is that of a teenager with gold teeth.

There is a reason why he is not featuring for Liverpool bar his injuries as he is now fully fit and why they want rid. He had no competition when he joined LFC.

Mistake signing and on high wages. That is why we are struggling to move him on.

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21 Jun 2019 20:13:56
I have absolutely no doubt that our demands are high right now, but we'll no likely budge to the highest offer that comes in over the entire of the transfer window. He clearly has no route to the first team with us and therefore pricing him out of a move only makes sense in the short term to see if anyone bites. I'm very positive that he'll be gone by the end of the transfer window.

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21 Jun 2019 20:39:46
Epic, what about Clyne's demands? Same with Mignolet. They not going to just move by cutting their wages in half.

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21 Jun 2019 21:47:18
My Cousin who was on the podium and on the team bus victory parade following Madrid (his mother and my mother are sisters) , told me last week that the "KloppFather" is very concerned with reference to Hoever, who made a Fantastic Debut against Wolves he has absolutely gone down hill the reason being Attitude i. e. "Big Head" thinks he has made the grade on one appearance.

P. S. My Cousin maintains "ABSOLUTE" confidentiality while the Premier League is in Duration and i completely "RESPECT" that Decision, as it could gravely harm the clubs progress and his employment status. I did not even ask him could he get me a ticket for Madrid (or any game i have a season ticket for the Kop behind the Goal) out of respect for fellow LFC Fans. The reason for breaking the above confidentiality is its pre-season or should that be silly rumour season and he is only an Academy player by definition, if he had of been Mainstream i would not of disclosed his conversation.

P. S. 007 "ALWAYS SITS ON IT"! no vulgarity boys/ girls?

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21 Jun 2019 22:39:02
Could palace take him if Wan Bisaka leaves?

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{Ed002's Note - As I have said - the price and the wages are an issue.}

20 Jun 2019 09:02:07
Mornin Eds.
Reading conflicting reports of Rafa Camacho supposedly off to either Schalke or Sporting, any chance Ed002 or anyone knows what's really happening and can clear this up?

Thanks very much and have a great day.

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{Ed002's Note - Rafael Camacho (AM) Sporting still want a loan to buy deal but will have an influx of money which will allow them to commit to buying. Interest of Benfica has probably gone as they were looking to a loan with an option to buy. Wolves are interested and have been for sometime. Schalke have been in discussions with Liverpool recently and are interested in buying the player outright.}

20 Jun 2019 11:00:01
Wow great thanks a mil Ed002!

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{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

20 Jun 2019 11:02:47
Thanks Ed! I am assuming, given the contract situation, we would do a loan to buy?

Do you think he has the qualities to of been given a chance at some point? Whenever I have seen him he has been decent enough but difficult to judge given his lack of experience!

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool want to sell him. He has been told he will get chances and that was untrue - he has also said when he did play it was out of position. This is the growing problem the Premier League clubs are seeing - the kids want immediate first team game time and those who have been promised chances (which we know Klopp does) then get miffed and want to move on. A month or so ago I was with the Sporting Director (and very high end scout) of a German side and he was in London looking at kids from Arsenal, Fulham and Chelsea and he was explaining that German sides are going to be pushing to look to signing kids from England as they offer realistic routes in to the top-level game. So lots of sides from Germany are looking.}

20 Jun 2019 12:05:22
It must be difficult for young players to be promised stuff like that for it to just be a lie!

I do think we should be giving more opportunities when maybe we are comfortable in a game to maybe let players like Camacho have 10/ 15mins of experience.

I just don’t get why managers don’t do that more often, and would of assumed Klopp would be someone of that ilk, do you think the pressure of being at Liverpool has led him to be less youth driven? I know at Dortmund he was really good at nurturing youth.

I believe the same thing Ed, it is an interesting approach by German clubs and one that we have seen is fruitful, we as a country of academy’s produce quite a lot of decent players but as you say we don’t ever offer as much exposure as German clubs.

What would be your approach to youth at Liverpool so that we are still offering a route to the first team and exposure that makes us seem an attractive club for your players and their development?

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are doing better than they used to but it is not structured or managed well still.}

20 Jun 2019 13:00:38
I suppose the difficulty managers have is that they may fully intend giving young players some time on the pitch but then that gets pushed aside once a certain group of players starts doing well. I doubt any Liverpool supporter - sad but true - wanted to see Camacho replace any of our players in the first team last season given we were pushing so hard for the league and CL. If he was playing out of his skin in training and the U21s then maybe he'd have got more chances but do we know if that was the case? Probably not.

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{Ed002's Note - The answer is don't make promises or kowtow to players.}

20 Jun 2019 16:18:02
Agreed Ed, if that filters through the youth teams of broken promises that’s going to have a negative impact on the rest of them.

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20 Jun 2019 16:42:15
Half the problem is expectancy of fans. If a young player doesn't hit the ground running or isn't Neymar then there's howls of "he's crap, get rid, spend £60 million on a suitable replacement". And this coming from fans who playing wise aren't fit to kiss the studs of the young players they're busy slagging off.
Unfortunately the sheer majority of fans these days have no idea at all of what it's like for players trying to climb through the ranks and stake their claim for a spot in the team/ squad.

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20 Jun 2019 17:21:37
I think the problem (albeit a good problem) is that we're now at a standard 1 point behind an excellent Man City team and European Champions.

If we were still finishing 7th, like when Klopp took over, had an injury to our right sided attacker/ winger, and Shaqiri's signing just didn't work out, the likes of Camacho may have been given a chance.

The stakes are higher now that the level of quality in the squad is much higher and our attackers have been pretty much injury free.

It's different trying to break into the first team for an upper mid-table side than it is to break into a serial European finalists and title challengers side.

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20 Jun 2019 22:10:57
Personally I'd say if the youth players were actually good enough to displace the starting 11 and were leaving we would have a problem.

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21 Jun 2019 00:51:18
Not sure what the answer is in the PL, but it seems the way to get above the opposition, you can't do it with the kids, unless they are exceptional, players like Trent for instance! Aren't the younger players happy enough to go on decent loans, with a clause that says they have to play a certain amount of games, like I believe we have done? Camacho for one, he had to understand who was in front of him to play in his favoured place! Maybe we didn't go as far as we had hoped in the domestic cups or these fringe players might have played more, who knows!

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21 Jun 2019 00:52:03
I guess it could partly be because the premier league is so competitive. There really no stroll in the park games like in Germany or Spain (sides that would struggle to stay in the championship) to blood youth into the side. Domestic cup runs are another matter both but we did terribly in both.

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20 Jun 2019 23:45:43
@johnnyr1970: Camacho was top scorer for the U23s and one of the stars this season. It's simply a lack of patience. He's only 18 but could realistically have envisioned overtaking Shaqiri next season and maybe even replacing Salah when he leaves in a year or two. He's a good young player but not developed enough yet to be a consistent first teamer. Like Ed002 keeps saying, it's a problem that many clubs are having with youth players and the reason German clubs are quite cleverly fishing around in England. Best case scenario probably a good offer from Schalke for example with a buy-back clause if possible.

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21 Jun 2019 03:56:48
interesting ed002, i had to google and didn't realise kowtow's accepted use in english language.

learn something new everyday i suppose.

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{Ed002's Note - I see it as a social service to try and teach the Liverpool supporters a farrago of new words every day.}

21 Jun 2019 12:59:37
ed002 would you say apart from the big 2 teams most leagues have got. Would you say the premier league is the easiest league to get sacked. Bringing more pressure to managers here making it harder to blood youth players unless they are all ready top class. Its like they need to be at the same standard as full Internationals as soon as they get in the teams. What does not help as well is the value young british players have on them ryan sessegnon springs to mind with the £50m they rated him at before he had even played in the top flight. And with Youth players some are so much more developed than others and it makes them look so much better than until they play against men and they lose that advantage.

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{Ed002's Note - I don't really get the question but the answer would be no if you think more coaches get sacked in the PL than elsewhere - take last season - the Bundesliga, Serie A, Ligue 1 and La Liga all saw more coaches sacked than the PL.}

21 Jun 2019 14:34:30
yes ed002 that was the point I thought more coaches got sacked here. So I was just think they don't have the time to blood young players in. And with are league being the most competitive I does make it harder. Was it a good year for are managers last season though ed can't remember to many getting the chop. I think Fulham got rid of 2 not sure about Huddersfield did there manager walk then there was Southampton, utd and Leicester but that seems quite low for normal.

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{Ed002's Note - The Spanish and Italian sides are rather less forgiving than the PL sides. It is unrelated to playing kids.}

19 Jun 2019 22:27:41
Liverpool won’t consider another Championship loan deal for Wilson.
Wilson will be assessed in pre-season before Jurgen Klopp makes any final decision on his future.

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20 Jun 2019 11:04:00
I think we are currently pricing him out of a move anywhere at the moment! He had a decent season at derby but the goal return doesn’t reflect his overall output for the team.

I do hope he proves us all wrong but I have a feeling he isn’t quite ready or up to the standard we are wanting.

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24 Jun 2019 20:08:41
Ed02 has said Wilson will prolly be sold.

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{Ed001's Note - and he is right, the club have been offering him around for sale.}

20 Jun 2019 02:37:40
I have read that LFC have looked at Junior Firpo of Real Betis. The 22 year old is predominantly a Left back but able to cover left wing and CB.

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20 Jun 2019 09:44:33
Looks ideal on youtube. And everybody knows youtube clips are golden when judging a players ability. :)

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{Ed002's Note - Firpo is not moving to Liverpool to play as cover - he would be first choice if there were any interest.}

20 Jun 2019 12:02:12
How is the young lad Anderson Arroyo doing - was his loan to Gent a waste of time?

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{Ed002's Note - Anderson Arroyo (LB) will have to be loaned again as WP issues will persist. Questions have arisen that he has struggled to settle and he was not seen as good enough to play for the Gent first team. Relegated Nurnberg and struggling Deportivo de La Coruna are potential options for him - clearly any side in Spain might ease issues with his settling and ease him in to Europe.}


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