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19 Sep 2018 00:14:42
Absolutely brilliant result tonight great display, one major concern going forward is the relationship between salah and mane . salahs reaction to firmino goal was bad and he needs to answer for it. No player bigger than LFC, remember that Mo.

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19 Sep 2018 00:37:28
I think it was relief not anger!

19 Sep 2018 00:38:41
Clearly you are too influenced by Twitter, if you see the full video he celebrates the goal and then about 5 seconds later throws down his bottle probably because he’s still mad at himself over the equalizer.

19 Sep 2018 01:50:09
Salah had been subbed by then. he's hardly going to jump off the bench and do the Sturridge wave.

19 Sep 2018 04:08:57
Thankfully I wasn't the only one that seen that Kramer.

19 Sep 2018 06:36:50
Probably self frustration as stated above. Difficult one on how to deal with Salah. He isn’t playing well, but do we let him carry on or rest him and give Shaq a chance? I also agree with a recent Ed001 comment that TAA is wasted at FB. I think an Andy Robertson type RB should be a priority in the next few windows and TAA moves to the Milner type position when he (eventually) retires. On Milner, I can’t belive how good this fella has been. Iv never been a big fan before he came to us, didn’t realise what he really did other than work hard. Now I think he may be one the best players in the squad and best free transfers in the clubs history.

18 Sep 2018 23:55:09
Wijnaldum.
What a performance.

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19 Sep 2018 01:51:25
Fully agree, flidby. Man of the match for me. Best game i've seen Gini play and one of the few were he's really displayed what he's capable of.

19 Sep 2018 08:00:11
He was immense.

19 Sep 2018 08:08:53
I really don't see what made him MOTM in that match, don't get me wrong he had a decent game, but too many times he was in the way or slowing play down when we were building. And his never showing for the ball was causing VVD and Gomez to try and force it mid way through the 1st half. Hendo and Milner both had better games for me.

18 Sep 2018 23:11:39
Still not seen it mentioned anywhere but PSG's first goal was offside. Cavani was offside when the cross came in and he attempted to play the ball and maybe even got a slight touch.

Changed the game that goal did and made us work for it. The state of officiating is so poor in the modern game.

The bright side is, I haven't seen a Liverpool team with this much heart and fight since at least 2007. So they had no problem in battling for a game after nearly being robbed.

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19 Sep 2018 02:11:38
What do u think of VAR MK? I thought it would make decisions a lot clearer but the very first VAR decision I seen i disagreed with it and a lot more have followed.

18 Sep 2018 22:54:29
Great win in the end. Did anyone see Salahs reaction after bobby's winner. I can understand his frustration to quite not performing well but throwing a bottle in anger after we just scored just seemed a little weird.

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18 Sep 2018 23:01:03
I think his reaction was more relief than anything. He knew that his pass had led to the second goal and he's obviously frustrated with himself but feels he got out of jail. Let's not turn this into anything. He's part of the squad and we're all happy to have won.

18 Sep 2018 23:59:19
Watch again. When the camera pans with Klopp you can see Salah celebrating. When it comes back he throws the bottle. It’s the end of his celebration.

18 Sep 2018 23:51:03
I've actually looked at it now, and if you watch closely (and I do mean closely, because the camera is following Klopp who's running to the edge of technical area and Salah is in the background, and Migs is in the seat in front partly blocking him too) Salah's immediate reaction to the goal is to raise both his hands, which is usually a celebratory gesture, isn't it? Unless in Egyptian culture it means "Sod that shiny-toothed one-eyed Brazilian for stealing my thunder. " But I don't think it does.

It's only a couple of seconds later when Klopp is walking back towards the bench that you see Salah chucking the bottle. I'd say it's relief more than anything.

Mountain out of a molehill, can we please stop talking about it.

18 Sep 2018 22:46:20
Mo was poor again. he needs a rest. But shows how strong our squad is when Bobby can come off the bench and get the winner. Super result.

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18 Sep 2018 22:31:45
Liverpool vs Paris SG - How I saw it.

This was not a game I expected us to be this dominant in and, if you only checked the score, you'd think it was close. We were the better team from first minute to last, we controlled the game for large parts and we provided a constant threat to their goal. A combination of profligate finishing, poor decision making, strange officiating and lacking a bit of luck meant we didn't win by more but make no mistake we could and should have had 5 easily.

As for Paris they were disjointed at best. Tuchel's tactics were strange to me, playing Di Maria as one of the midfield 3 just lead to a huge imbalance and, when comparing the work rate of Mane with someone like, say, Neymar, it meant they were at a big disadvantage. I will give them some credit though they still looked very dangerous on the break - Mbappe looks a nightmare to defend against, all sorts of horrible movement, rapid pace, good workrate - he was their beacon in a largely listless performance. Onto player ratings.

Alisson - 7 - Not really at fault for either goal and anything else he had to do he did with the minimum of fuss. I'd of given him a higher rating but he really didn't have much to do. Vocal when they had set pieces though which is hugely important.

TAA - 8 - A very good game from the youngster. Dealt with more or less all of the threats down his side of the pitch, kept and distributed the ball well, was a constant threat going forward and was unlucky not to get a goal. Very impressive.

Robertson - 7 - I feel guilty giving him such a low rating given his workrate and tenacity but I really thought he looked uncomfortable defensively tonight. Give the lad his dues he was covering Mbappe, which would cause anyone problems, but he lacked composure at times and this heightened the pressure. He made a hash of the clearance for their first goal but I'd argue Cavani should've been given offside anyway. His cross for our first goal was a superb, first time cross taken on the bounce - truly excellent.

Van Dijk - 8 - Another imperious performance from the Dutchman in which he gave Cavani absolutely nothing. It was a complete shut out. For the second goal he was a little unlucky his sliding tackle ricocheted back into Mbappe's path and I really think his overall game was good. Also passed the ball well and helped maintain that control of the game.

Gomez - 8 - He gets an 8 simply by virtue of doing very little wrong. He won challenges, he tackled when he had to, he was in the positions he was supposed to be in, and he rose to the occasion. Also kept possession well and distributed the ball efficiently - the lad is looking better and better with each game.

Milner - 8 - Insane workrate. Literally all over the pitch from crossing from the right, to crossing from the left, to covering left back, to covering right back, the guy was everyone and his work rate was integral as it set the tone for everyone else and they responded.

Henderson - 8 - Playing the defensive midfield role he did, by an large, what you're supposed to do - break up play and dispossess before things progress. He did it multiple times and he did it well - it seemed to stop Neymar from trying after a while (though stopping Neymar trying isn't difficult) . Passing was fine, won plenty of tackles, was superior to any of their midfielders and looked to rally the team after we conceded, a strong performance.

Wijinaldum - 9 - Clearly ate his Weetabix today! Was playing in a more advanced role than he usually does and I have to say I like him in the role. He presses hard and works his socks off but, unlike defensive midfield, where he often looks like he doesn't know where to be, he seems to instinctively know how to find space when attacking. He linked up well with the attack, created space, caused their defence all sorts of problems and won a penalty in the process. Contender for man of the match in my view.

Mane - 8 - The lad was up for it, big time. Superb energy, really relentless, and great tenacity to keep running at them and keep their team on the back foot. Meunier was one of their better players but he couldn't get forward as he wanted because Mane was to lively. Only thing missing was a goal and, as happens with Sadio, his passing could've been better.

Salah - 6 - In my view another off game for the lad. First half he looked lively, linked up well and, due to his threat, was marked heavily leaving space for others to fill in. He was never that effective offensively though he did work hard. The second half was a similar story though he became more and more lax as it progressed. His passing had already been wayward before he gave it away, in an incredibly lazy fashion, and that sequence lead to their equalizer. He should be thanking Bobby in the changing rooms.

Sturridge - 8 - OK so the lad has lost pace, that is a given. His style of play doesn't look as suited to us, a fair comment. But he played really well. He scored 1, should've scored another, and, had he not made contact with their keepers unmentionables, would've had an assist. I thought he did well, passed reasonably well, and contributed to our success. A really useful squad option to have.

Subs:

Firmino - 8 - When you come off the bench and score the winning goal in injury time, and it's such a well-taken goal, then you must be at least an 8. His pressing and work rate were excellent as soon as he came on and it forced them into a number of mistakes pretty much immediately. He didn't actually do that much in an attacking sense but his solitary contribution was key. That is what quality players do - deliver in the key moments when you need it most. Bobby delivered.

Shaqiri - 7 - Work rate was good, he looked to keep busy, keep possession and be active. Didn't have much time to make an impact but his technical quality is an asset and to be able to bring that sort of quality off the bench really does make a difference.

Fabinho - n/ a - Got literally a minute and committed a foul. No time to judge him but at least he was on the pitch!

Manager:

Klopp - 9 - He got it right. We were the better team, the more dominant team, the more deserving team and, though we left it late, it was a win the manager can take huge credit for. The late, late sub was unnecessary but as a time wasting tool understandable. Salah could've been withdrawn earlier as he hadn't been looking good for a while so that could be criticised but, overall, we dominated and got the win our domination deserved.

Conclusions:

For us it was another dominant display which wasn't quite matched with dominance on the scoreboard. When that starts to happen we are going to see some big scores because the football we are playing, attacking and defensive, it excellent. Our balance looks good, players are improving, new additions look excellent, the signs are all really positive. As for Paris? They look like they'd be a better team without Neymar whose selfishness and laziness made it seem like they were a man down for large parts. Mbappe looks like the Brazilian Ronaldo when he was young and, if it wasn't for him, the game would've been truly easy. We have more big games ahead but this has been a dream start to a tough set of fixtures - the players can and should have their heads held high.

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19 Sep 2018 04:15:28
The minute you were critical of Robertson I stopped reading. Are you serious?

19 Sep 2018 05:16:49
I thought he looked panicked whenever Mbappe was near him, he made a hash of a clearance for the first goal (though Cavani should've been given offside in the build up), and Mbappe got the better of him in a few moments - it's just the crosses that were put in from his side were dealt with each time. He played well, has tons of heart, and a superb work rate, but he is not perfect, and he did not have a perfect game in my opinion. If a different opinion stops you reading stuff then perhaps opinion pieces aren't for you?

18 Sep 2018 22:28:08
Slightly off topic but I think we’re going to see the first lot of rotation at the weekend. Milner and Gino have been good but I think they will drop out, maybe Keita Fabinho and someone else. Think Sturridge may keep his place and Shaqiri for Salah - he looked tired. Still back us! What a win, I’d take a point at Napoli and beat red star and them at home!

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19 Sep 2018 00:03:28
Sturridge will keep his place?

18 Sep 2018 22:24:17
I know it was only a split second but did anyone else notice salah throw his bottle on the floor following Firminos winner tonight? Again, I know it's only a split second but it looked like it was in annoyance rather than celebratory.

Anyway, what a fantastic win for the lads! Digging deep and finding that extra push. Absolutely elated. Long live our perfect start. YNWA.

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18 Sep 2018 22:32:42
He celebrated and threw his bottle on the floor like I threw my beer at the wall 🤣

He's just been hammered since his shoulder.

No real world cup. No champi9ns league trophy. Just scrapped his goal record which was a just over the line. No back with expectations like the empire state building on his back.

Needs a holiday. Give him the weekend off.

18 Sep 2018 22:15:18
Anyone see Salah throwing his water bottle on the ground the second Firmino scores?

I’d like to think it was out of frustration at him being responsible for the second PSG goal.

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18 Sep 2018 22:23:01
Yeh, when Bobby scored Mo raised his hands, but then threw the water bottle down as if annoyed with himself for his wayward pass that gave them their equaliser.
Alls good, and a fantastic performance by the lads tonight.
What a Bobby dazzler too 😃.

18 Sep 2018 22:21:21
Just seen it there myself mate. My son pointed it out. Strange it was.

{Ed0333's Note - he has high standards mate he’s just bereft he’s not contributing more I’m sure.

18 Sep 2018 22:21:24
One would imagine that was it. It's nothing really.

Queue half a week of overanalysing.

{Ed0333's Note - or the Real Madrid rumours. Heaven forbid.

18 Sep 2018 22:27:13
I'm sure someone (possibly even Aldo, he's gone really bad with his articles lately for some reason) will spin it into a story about how unhappy Salah is and Liverpool have to be manage him carefully and might need to let him go to preserve dressing room harmony.

18 Sep 2018 22:14:54
I thought the 2nd half midfield performance was as good as we've had all season. Shows me that Hendo minding the house with Gini and Milner ahead of him is the way to go (with appropriate rotation in of Fabinho and Keita, obviously) .

Gini seemed to be given more licence to get forward in the 2nd half, and both him and Hendo played a lot better as a result, imo. And overall we had much more cohesion, better movement, and better angles being made for passes.

Obviously Milner was Milner and played well in both halves.

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