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14 Feb 2018 21:39:41
hello, everton fan here (as you have probably already inferred from my username) i was watching your game with porto and noticed that you lot weren't really playing with a high pressing style that is normally a characteristic of jurgen klopp teams, granted i haven't really watched liverpool much, and the only comparison i have is what i've read of klopp. so have you been playing like this all season? it seemed to me you were almost passive in your pressing and not as intense, and if it is a difference do you know why they might have set up like that (i don't really mean to offend anyone and take away from your victory tonight, obviously you have to be good to smash porto 5-0 away from home) just something that piqued my curiosity, thank you :)
{Ed0333's Note - Klopp and the players are picking and choosing when to apply the press depending on the opposition. It’s not the archetypal Geggenpress anymore. It was becoming predictable and players couldn’t sustain the press for 90 mins.
1.) 14 Feb 2018 21:56:49
thanks ed.
2.) 14 Feb 2018 22:00:31
another question, did the problems of archetypal gegen pressing become exposed during the season where klopp finished 8th in the bundesliga? is that where its decline started?
{Ed0333's Note - I would say that’s a fair assessment of the situation yes. I think Bundesliga coaches just worked it out after Klopp had so much success with it. It worked well in the Premiership (especially in the first half of games) and then coaches just played the ball over the top to bypass the midfield. Now we pick and choose the intensity of the press and when to execute it. I can define what I mean by the press if you want as you wouldn’t know being an Everton fan. I’m only joking mate. Thanks for stopping by and Happy Valentines Day mate.
3.) 14 Feb 2018 22:05:23
So Ed what your saying is JK has learned from his mistake's in the past and he's become more tactical?
{Ed0333's Note - I think he’s adapting and modifying his working practices to his environment. So yes mate.
4.) 14 Feb 2018 22:11:13
thanks ed!
5.) 14 Feb 2018 22:11:22
and cheers you too :)
6.) 14 Feb 2018 22:22:04
It's always a sign of a good coach who can adapt. Thanks Ed.
7.) 14 Feb 2018 22:45:46
Toffe fan, your observations afre correct. Klopp stopped th whole counter pressing thing last season, as Ed said. In fact, we don't even play that way anymore. Now not only do we pick when to press, we pick where to press cos if you watch the City game, we would set what we call pressing traps for them in the "half-spaces" (btw the edges of the box and the touchline) and press them there. We do this cos the space is constricted and tight so if a mid or FB is pressed there with all the passing lanes blocked, he is ripe for the taking. It may be a simple concept BUT we do it so well with speed, tenacity and intelligence hence, why NOBODY can do it like we do.
8.) 15 Feb 2018 00:11:57
klopp is adapting, something his detractors say he can't do.
9.) 15 Feb 2018 09:48:05
We're the best team in the world at getting the ball back.
I half expect us to win the ball every time the opposition pass out from the back.
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14 Feb 2018 22:11:22
and cheers you too :)
14 Feb 2018 22:11:13
thanks ed!
14 Feb 2018 22:00:31
another question, did the problems of archetypal gegen pressing become exposed during the season where klopp finished 8th in the bundesliga? is that where its decline started?
{Ed0333's Note - I would say that’s a fair assessment of the situation yes. I think Bundesliga coaches just worked it out after Klopp had so much success with it. It worked well in the Premiership (especially in the first half of games) and then coaches just played the ball over the top to bypass the midfield. Now we pick and choose the intensity of the press and when to execute it. I can define what I mean by the press if you want as you wouldn’t know being an Everton fan. I’m only joking mate. Thanks for stopping by and Happy Valentines Day mate.
14 Feb 2018 21:56:49
thanks ed.