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01 Jun 2017 21:43:23
Lazio aparently interested in origi. I can see a lot of changes. I would love us to go for vardy personally.


1.) 01 Jun 2017 22:14:36

A thirty year old man who dropped his tools when the manager who earned him a Premier League medal was in need of his help!? The man who has struggled to re-find his form after a new manager was employed!? That Vardy!?

Hell, no!

I don't want to see a quitter and a diver join the club. He is well past it now mate and an embarrassment. We stomached Suarez's antics because he was a quality player who knew how to put the ball in the back of the net. Why would we do the same for a player who has a quarter of his ability!?

Also, why would you swap a young man who has the potential to improve with a guy who is entering the twilight of his career!? Who would probably cost around 30 million plus!?

I would much rather stick with Origi then waste money on Vardy!? There are other areas we should be strengthening before we look at our striker situation.

2.) 02 Jun 2017 07:06:50
If Lazio is hot for Divock, I would swap him and Keita Balde in a flash. Just the kind of left winger we need!

3.) 02 Jun 2017 10:16:15
Agree 100% smedegaard. Keita balde would be a fantastic addition.



01 Jun 2017 21:42:17
Hi Eds and reds. It does amuse me when people see who we are linked with and try to explain formations. Personally im completely lost. Players up top we loads. with salah lalalana mane firmino cout plus our strikers . i really have no clue we seem to be bloated in attack.
I personally see a lot of changes coming. We speak of players coming. besides interest in couts i can see others going.


1.) 01 Jun 2017 21:53:16
I think at the moment the idea is to add depth and options to the squad. I wouldn't get too hung up on formations and where everyone fits just yet. likely we will see Coutinho in central midfield and a fluid front 3 or 4 depending on opposition/ availability.



23 Jun 2016 17:58:06
Hi Eds, you mentioned there may be upcoming interest in firminio.
Do you know where it might come from?
Would you sell him or do you see him as a key player?
Do you see us getting anywhere near the money we paid out for him?


{Ed002's Note - As I have explained in the past there is a chance Manchester City may look to him.}

1.) 23 Jun 2016 18:14:29
We wouldn't sell him at a loss that's for sure .

2.) 23 Jun 2016 19:54:52
Let them have him at the right price

We don't need him.

3.) 23 Jun 2016 20:12:26
We can't get rid of Firminio surely. really not liking the sound of things at the moment, mane coming in, talk of coutinho going now firminio.

4.) 23 Jun 2016 20:35:12
Keep believing J├╝rgen ­čśÄ.

5.) 23 Jun 2016 20:45:30
crazy supporters. let him go etc. Sell all the players that are performing lately to our rivals. great idea!

6.) 23 Jun 2016 21:00:12
We would not sell him period. Firmino is a key player for JK. They can be interested to buy but we will not be interested to sell.

7.) 23 Jun 2016 21:47:43
Swap for De Bruyne plus 30 million.

8.) 23 Jun 2016 22:07:45
I hope we wouldn't lose Firmino and Coutinho. They are two of our best players. Losing 1 or the other is bearable. Both would be a kick in the teeth.

If we do though, an interchangeable front 3 of Origi, Sturridge and Mane would still be pretty lethal with Origi coming in from the left, Mane from the right, and Sturridge just floating into space.

Plenty of pace there anyway!

9.) 23 Jun 2016 22:15:23
Take the over inflated transfer fee that City will propose and let the manager spend it on his own players.

I reckon Coutinho needs that position to flourish and his inconsistent performances reflect that.

No room for two luxury players so similar.

As much as I like him, there's always the cushion that Coutinho will stay, but regardless, one or the other will go either way.

10.) 23 Jun 2016 22:57:32
We can only try Ron lol.

11.) 23 Jun 2016 23:17:44
Can't remember many players having a good a first season as firmino for us, I'd be gutted if he left. Was our best player at times last year and surely has more to offer. Remember he went nearly half a season without scoring and got what 12? Could get 20 next season, irreplaceable goals.

12.) 23 Jun 2016 23:17:56
No way I can't see firmino leaving. I thought towards the end of season he was beginning to find his feet so to say. I can't see us selling klopp seems to like him.

13.) 23 Jun 2016 23:18:52
coutinho was inconsistent long before firmino arrived. firmino going to be 10 times the player coutinho will ever be. don't know what your watching? wanna change your name to "chris Crosby" or even " stevie seaforth"

14.) 23 Jun 2016 23:53:44
Agreed Fencey.

I don't think he'll go anywhere, but the rumour alone is worrying enough.

'scouse john L8' your off your head mate. Firminio is fantastic granted but 10 x better than Coutinho, i don't think so. both are still learning, both will end up world class the way they're going. can't talk like that about Coutinho in my opinion, he's been brilliant for us and hsould he stay he will continue to be brilliant. talking like that is utterly stupid.

15.) 23 Jun 2016 22:18:27
I don't think the fans could take losing both and there could be more fsg people wanted the owners out.

16.) 24 Jun 2016 03:13:56
Hold your horses guys! Just because our player is linked with a move, doesn't mean it will happen. We are linked with tons of players but not all of them will happen. Besides, it is good that other clubs appreciate the quality of our players. I'd be surprised if our top performers are not in any way involved in any rumours.

17.) 24 Jun 2016 03:31:34
Coutinho and Firmino could be the core of our attack for years to come and have already shown they can complement each other's play. 2+2=5 sometimes and we shouldn't be willing to sell either, two of our best players last season.

18.) 24 Jun 2016 07:29:57
There will be interest in any of our players that have potential.

19.) 24 Jun 2016 07:30:58
Coutinho is best when there's movement in front of him his link up with suarez was fantastic and that's what i feel is the reason his perfomances drop on times.

Yes he can go missing in big games but he's also capable of winning those games in 1 moment of brazilian magic.
Most of the top sides would love to have him give him a break he's quality.

20.) 24 Jun 2016 09:00:37
You say years to come but we should be proactive now and look for there replacements. We might convince coutinho to give us one more year but if we don't make top 4, he will gone and we don't want yo be caught with are pants down again.

Players are transient employees and people who don't already support this club have bigger agendas ie playing for the likes of barca. If you think that Coutinho layed there at night as a kid dreaming of playing and ending his career at Liverpool then you need to give your head a wobble, but that's ok if he helps us get top 4, we can all move on. I don't want him to leave but the reality is this. We don't get top 4 he's gone, but if we do he's more than likely going to have a stormer of a season and make a move to Barcelona etc even more likely so where probably going to lose him next season whatever. But if we plan it right now, we will be fine.

Even look at buying someone to replace him now and leave him on loan until next season (might knock a few quid off and looks after our club in the meantime)

21.) 24 Jun 2016 17:34:45
I see Ojo, and Zielinski (assuming we get him) as his likely successors if he leaves in another year or two.

22.) 25 Jun 2016 00:55:04
I agree, Ojo is one for the future. just needs to be given more of a chance, which I believe he'll get.



01 Jun 2016 15:46:47
Pierre hojbjerg being mentioned on the net now wanting to work with klopp. one i hope is true but i'm sure has no substance. Anything Eds? Have we ever watched this young lad? Danes have always been good at anfield.


1.) 01 Jun 2016 17:24:34
With the exception of Poulsen who was diar.

2.) 01 Jun 2016 18:17:51
You can't judge anyone on YouTube, but you can better judge a central midfielder than attacking player in my opinion, and Hjojberg looks like he is physical, has a great touch and is a good set-piece taker, so would fit in our midfield nicely.

3.) 01 Jun 2016 23:24:51
He is a technical good player, but not sure if he is ready for PL. But if we had the option I would take him. Having Him and Can bossing the midfield over the next 8 years would be tops.



04 Apr 2016 18:32:09
Hi eds. is anyone looking at celtics Patrick roberts. Could be a good option for us as a winger. ?


{Ed001's Note - he is on loan from Man City. They only just bought him from Fulham.}

1.) 04 Apr 2016 18:53:29
Wonder if Pep will give their youth a chance, Roberts was really expensive for a player with half a season of championship experience.

Hope he does well, England have a dearth of competition when it comes to wingers.




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29 Jul 2017 15:59:42
I know keita has been done to death. but it baffles me why they rejected our offer when he's available for 48m in january. stupidity on there part really.


{Ed002's Note - Keita will not be available for that in January. Where do you get this rubbish from?}

1.) 29 Jul 2017 16:07:56
This ***kin site. that's where i get this rubbish from. Ed25 posted today.

29 Jul 2017 09:14:23

Are you about this morning mate. what's your thoughts on us ending interest in Keita? Pinch of salt?

Agree1 Disagree1

{Ed025's Note - it could be a tactic MR but im not sure, maybe they will now wait until january and get him for £48m as it looks like leipzig are just messing around mate.

{Ed002's Note - I imagine he was teasing you.}

2.) 29 Jul 2017 16:21:46
48m next summer by then all the other big clubs could be in for him we 'll have less chance of signing him.

{Ed002's Note - Any "release clause" is of no relevance to Liverpool at all. You can forget that completely.}

3.) 29 Jul 2017 16:27:18
There's no need to be an arse about it craigu!

4.) 29 Jul 2017 16:28:30
Ed you have not really confirmed either way if we have ended our interest or not as was reported in the Echo. Appreciate its getting boring but can you say either way please.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware that anything has changed in any way related to Keita. His club has made it very clear they do not wish to sell. I am not aware of any new offer from Liverpool at this juncture. The other interested sides have taken heed of being told "not for sale" and moved on.}

5.) 29 Jul 2017 16:36:34
I have to agree with Ed on this. Keita was never a question about getting him next summer. That just won't happen. It was either now or never, and unfortunatly it seems to be the last. In a year we have to fend off the big boys too, and I just don't see us doibg that - Unless we win the PRL or CL, or something like that.

6.) 29 Jul 2017 18:42:24
I think you can assume that you will never see Keita in a Liverpool shirt. Since it's unlikely that we'll make the top four, let alone win anything.

7.) 29 Jul 2017 19:08:58
Hansens scars, oh what a happy and joyful life you must lead.

8.) 29 Jul 2017 19:49:57
I'm a realist. Blind faith gets you nowhere.

9.) 29 Jul 2017 20:44:39
Hansens scars with the joke of the day. Well done my friend, that was a good one.



27 Jul 2017 16:13:42
Eds. just to clarify the Can situation. has he not signed for us because he is not happy with our or is he prefering Juve?
You said our valuation is differs from Juves. what price have we put in him?
Also if juve opt for there second choice and his move falls through. it will be awkward keeping a player who prefered a move elsewhere!


{Ed001's Note - what is there to clarify, I have spelt it out in plain English.}

1.) 27 Jul 2017 16:30:40
Craig, there's a thread on the rumours page in which Ed001 answers all of this. Basically, although Emre is happy here, he wants to play more regularly. At Juve he would be pretty much a first pick in midfield, whereas we have a wealth of options here, even more if Keita comes in, although unlikely. Emre wants the regular game time to give him maximum chance of forcing his way into the German team for the world cup next year.

Its entirely understandable from the player's point of view. You could argue he lacks fight if he's not prepared to fight for his place, but looking at last season, Hendo has always been preferred to him. Consider that Couts is likely to move back into midfield, Wiji and Lallana had very good seasons playing from midfield, Milner is available for midfield again given Robertson's arrival, and Grujic is on the fringes too, and I can understand Can's PoV. Of course, were Couts to leave and/ or Clyne (promoting Milner to first choice RB) things could be different. But, as Ed001 said, why wouldn't Can fancy a move to Juve to be first choice and win trophies? Can't fault a player for that.

2.) 27 Jul 2017 16:41:36
As we all know, you've got to spell things out in plain Aramaic for users to understand you, ed001.

{Ed001's Note - ah apologies. Good job you told me so I could delete the two I had just written, one in Tagalog and one in Visayan, before I began to write the Spanish version...}

3.) 27 Jul 2017 18:03:00
Can would be first pick for Juve? Pjanjic, Marchisio and Khederia would surely be ahead of him?

4.) 27 Jul 2017 18:21:20
Zeddicus. thanks for your civilized response. I did actually miss this thread so was unaware of the details. so again thanks for your patience. They do say sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. and zpecialone - noone likes a kiss ass!

5.) 27 Jul 2017 19:01:55
Well said craigu. zspecialone Nutella Nose!



27 Jul 2017 02:09:33
In these times of football madness i thought i would share some opinions . firstly on the Can situation. He did give his all when he played. But he will not be missed. He was never liverpool standard. never rwally developed and i don't yhink he will become the player we hoped he would be. Good luck to him if he goes. Wish him the best.
As for wee phil. I always like him. I live in brazil and have followed him since his Vasco days. He is a special player. but. again not irreplacable. He saved us a few times this year and does open up teams. But all this talk of continuosly selling our best is nonsense. Torres had a nightmare when he left us. Was nevwr the same. Im not saying that will happen for phil at barca.
What we need is to buy wisely to replace him. Remember when Rushy left. Bought aldo barnes and beardo. We need to be smart. Get the right quality players with an effective system. that's what works. We will go on long after these players come and go. The most important thing is replace with quality. not like for like. Salah is turning out to be a great buy. Imagine for the couts money we got another 2 of 3 of similar end product. Id be happy with that!


1.) 27 Jul 2017 07:26:50
At can's age, what were you hoping for over and above what he Haas currently shown?

2.) 27 Jul 2017 07:39:43
A very sage and measured response to the carnival craigu.
No one one on this planet really knows what they are are doing with absolute certitude. Hence the circus.
However, there are those who have exemplified excellence and I think that we are fortunate enough to have many of them within our noble institution, despite perceived failings.

Liverpool Football Club is bigger than any player, manager or financial trend. It is an institution revered throughout the planet, based on a hard, tumultuous, but glorious history.

Klopp is not here for the pay cheque, he wants his name in stone next to King Kenny, Shanks and Paisley. And he's picking players to achieve that.

Hammer and Chisel at the ready. YNWA.

3.) 27 Jul 2017 07:43:52
Replacing players is a lot easier when you are the number 1 team in the land as players want to come to us. We already have a big bag of cash that we can't spend to improve the starting 11, so having an even bigger bag makes little sense to me. For every Salah or Mane we have signed, we have signed 10 markovic or downing or Andy Carrolls.

4.) 27 Jul 2017 11:36:34
No player is irreplaceable, I love Coutinho but he can still vanish in games. However as this summer is proving getting in top quality is very difficult, I'm not sure who we could get who would have Coutinho's quality.

5.) 27 Jul 2017 13:22:23
Faithinworks. im sorry, but at 23 he and 2/ 3 years here he should be showing us a lot more. If he is going to be a class above he would have dhown it already. hell. i don't even think he's been man of the match with us. Get over it. he's not that good. Answer this question. alonso had just turned 23 when he joined us. who would rather have? World of quality difference.



24 Jul 2017 11:13:10
I for one, as im sure are the Eds, tired of reading the same questions, bull team setups and digs at our owners over and over.
My opinion.
I think it would be awesome if we just had a summer transfer window. Tedms might put more thought into buys instead of entering the season with the security " if it doesn't work out we can reinforce in jan". Teams might also develop there youth more without lluxury of bying who the want mid season.
Also. i think it miggt level the playing field for everyone and create a more open title chase. No longer will a big teams injured player mean he can be replaced by buying "x" player from a weeker team who is having a cracker season. but noone looked twice at previously.
I feel entering the league knowing you have to do it with what you have might open up the chances of winning the league for more teams. create decelopment within. dnd also force tge coaches to actually coach instead of buying the league.


{Ed001's Note - or it will more likely create a bigger stockpile of players as teams don't want to risk having to play a youngster for 9 months of the season. Better to have the transfer window open longer, not for less. Then people can take a risk, knowing that if the kid they have brought in to cover for injuries struggles then they can go out and buy. Haven't we already seen that limiting transfers just means bigger clubs stockpile players? More limits will just increase the stockpile.}

1.) 24 Jul 2017 11:28:41
How about limiting the amount of players a team can loan out. Most are in agreement youngsters need 1st team exposure to improve, and the biggest problem i see is the amount of youngsters the big boys swallow up and simply send them out on loan, with most never likely to actually play for their parent club before being released or sold.

2.) 24 Jul 2017 13:46:26
Personally I'd do away with transfer windows and have it open 365 days of the year.

The current system encourages you to build a squad to get through the season. The issue with that is you then have 25 senior players 'stockpiled' as Ed put it, making a mountain for the youth players to climb.

The money in football is so mad now that teams literally cannot afford to risk not having at least 2 senior players for each position because if they trusted a youth player to cover an injury and it went wrong, they'd have to wait months to sign cover. Therefore they just refrain from putting trust in kids and don't leave any gaps for them to fill.

If you had a 365 day window, teams could afford to put a little bit of faith in their youth players with the confidence that if it doesn't work out they are not stuck between a rock and a hard place and can make an emergency signing at any point.

That is my two pence worth anyway!



20 Jun 2017 12:38:14
I know the interest in mendy exists. I just can't help but think if we are going to spend big on a LB would we not be better throwing that crazy money at celtic for tierney?


1.) 20 Jun 2017 12:55:04
What makes you prefer Tierney?
I like the look of both players to be honest but Mendy is a big unit.

2.) 20 Jun 2017 12:55:41
Any evidence to suggest he would be a better option?

3.) 20 Jun 2017 13:07:07
Given how strong an interest we had last summer in Ben Chilwell, I'm surprised it hasn't been revived this year. I'd assume he would have improved and matured a bit after experience of a full EPL season and UCL campaign? Unless something has happened that I'm not aware of (question to Ed001 and everyone else)?

{Ed001's Note - he signed a long term contract at Leicester and is happy to develop there.}

4.) 20 Jun 2017 13:16:51
Chilwell is poorer than Moreno defensively hence, Klopp was right to not sign him esp. for the amount (10m) they were asking for.

5.) 20 Jun 2017 13:19:58
Thanks Ed001.

6.) 20 Jun 2017 13:20:50
Agree with the OP. Tierney can defend and attack. Mendy is basically an auxiliary winger!

7.) 20 Jun 2017 14:03:33
Tierney would be a good addition for anyone looking for a LB with tons of potential but also good enough to do a job at the moment. His value is only going to keep rising once he does move to a higher league (similiar to Wanyama/ VVD etc) . Has international experience, champs league, 1st team etc so for me represents a better transfer target than recent youngsters of Chilwell etc. Personally think he will not move this season but if possible to do a deal it would be far better value as his wages would be nowhere near Mendy's or the transfer fee and would be an improvement on the position for us.




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27 Jul 2017 01:47:15
Any reports like this arw always crap. If a player " asks " to leave . im sure he loses his cut of the fees he would be entitled to. I remember ed saying its 5% of transfer fee. So a player asking to leave instead of forcing a move is financial stupidity.




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15 Jul 2017 20:57:21
Surely there are other options. I don't the fee being spoken about for keita. but surely we could get better value for money looking elsewhere for CB. I don't see VVD as worth that kinda money.




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07 Jun 2017 15:34:51
Have we had inquiries for anyone?


{Ed001's Note - yes, there is interest in Gomez, Ward and a few of the other youngsters.}



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30 May 2017 17:02:21
Whats the problem with fulham. bad blood from the past or sometething.? Or just reluctant to sell?


{Ed001's Note - bad blood as has been explained we have not smoothed over the waters since tapping up Clint Dempsey.}



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13 May 2016 11:41:11
Im sure lallana will be off to spuds to pay for the goetze deal. Lallana has been great but goetze is an improvement and younger. if he works out could even increase in value unlike lallane.





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07 Aug 2017 19:38:24
Throw in diego costa nland im happy :)




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29 Jul 2017 16:07:56
This ***kin site. that's where i get this rubbish from. Ed25 posted today.

29 Jul 2017 09:14:23

Are you about this morning mate. what's your thoughts on us ending interest in Keita? Pinch of salt?

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{Ed025's Note - it could be a tactic MR but im not sure, maybe they will now wait until january and get him for £48m as it looks like leipzig are just messing around mate.


{Ed002's Note - I imagine he was teasing you.}



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27 Jul 2017 18:21:20
Zeddicus. thanks for your civilized response. I did actually miss this thread so was unaware of the details. so again thanks for your patience. They do say sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. and zpecialone - noone likes a kiss ass!




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27 Jul 2017 16:07:15
TAA instead if clyne and you have nailed it i think.




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27 Jul 2017 13:22:23
Faithinworks. im sorry, but at 23 he and 2/ 3 years here he should be showing us a lot more. If he is going to be a class above he would have dhown it already. hell. i don't even think he's been man of the match with us. Get over it. he's not that good. Answer this question. alonso had just turned 23 when he joined us. who would rather have? World of quality difference.