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25 Jan 2015 11:13:45
Good morning,
I have heard that Liverpool are playing a dangerous game with regard to sterling's new contract.
We are absolutely appalling with the dealings with regard to new contracts and signings.
Apparently the reason sterling's agent will not agree the new contract is not because of the money being offered but the non financial terms of the contract.
Liverpool do not want him to go to a premier league competitor.
If we continue to make demands then we will no doubt alienate yet another player.
Cheers
M
1.) 25 Jan 2015 11:56:40
This has got nothing to do with Liverpool and everything to do with the player and his agent.
Be very, very clear here: Sterling has not decided whether he will stay or go.
He has a number of choices: quietly agitate for a transfer, let his contract run down etc etc
You cannot "force" players to sign contracts; some fans seem to think that because their beloved club offers a new deal, the player will automatically sign it.
2.) 25 Jan 2015 14:07:33
Contracts mean two things in a way, how much the player will earn and how much we can get for the player when/if he leaves, so if he has problems with what's put in front on him, stop negotiations until his agent/player sees sense! This is starting to get embarrassing for both the player and club and needs finalising now!
{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with his value when he leaves.}
3.) 25 Jan 2015 14:50:51
I think it is fair enough to try and have a clause in his contract that he won't be sold to a PL club. If that is indeed the case. It doesn't seem that odd to me.
{Ed002's Note - That would go down well in court. No chance.}
4.) 25 Jan 2015 18:12:48
How can a contract not have anything to do with value of a player when he leaves? Firstly there are buyout clauses, whether you say they mean anything or not. Fact is they exist and have been used.
Secondly, if a club has a player they do not need to sell and would rather not sell you saying having that player on contract with 10 months to go or 3yrs makes no difference to the value the club would accept if the player pushes to go?
{Ed002's Note - You clearly don't understand about "buy out" clauses. This is a good example why we don't discuss finances and contracts.}
5.) 27 Jan 2015 11:36:43
The "New FSG" types of contracts are performance based. Rafa had attracted his signings on huge basic wages whether they played or not, whether they performed or not, they would get their huge salaries. And for a team not consistently in the championsleague it is not financially viable nor good business practice to hand out contracts with massive basics. That is what drove the club almost to bankruptcy. FSG's number 1 objective was to get rid of all the huge basics. One of the reasons agger, reina etc was moved on. Johnson surely has been offered a new contract but with a massive reduction in basic with high performance bonus which he refuses to take. Only SKrtel, Gerrard, and Lucas remain on these huge basics. FSG has all the newcomers on the new style performance contracts and sterling(or his agent) feels why sign when he can get a better basic elsewhere(and the agent gets a better cut off a basic). But this type of contracts will keep us financially sound and the players hungry for success.
{Ed002's Note - Given the wage bill at LFC it is not working then.}
08 Jul 2014 21:42:10
Evening all,
Not remotely Liverpool related but just turned Brazil match on after 25 mins. I guess I missed quite a bit of action. On a more Liverpool related note Lovren will be announced as a Liverpool player at the start of next week.
Liverpool are pretty confident that everything is in place just tying up the loose ends.
Cheers
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23 Oct 2015 18:42:30
Good evening, I just wanted everyone's opinion on Daniel Sturridge. As much as I except he is a very good footballer the problem is he never plays football as he is almost constantly injured.
I now believe we should look to offload him and replace him with someone who is less injury prone. It's no use having a fantastic footballer sat in the stand watching us play for three quarters of the season!
1.) 23 Oct 2015 19:19:38
And how much do you think we can sell him for?
2.) 23 Oct 2015 19:21:53
Off load him where.
Do you think there are clubs queuing up to sign a crock?
Sturridge is the best striker we have. Last night showed how important these players are. Off loading him would be a mistake, his fitness needs managing better.
3.) 23 Oct 2015 19:22:41
And who the hell would buy him. You want him shot because he is injury prone, but expect some other club to take him. Crazy or what.
4.) 23 Oct 2015 19:34:15
What I do not agree on is his massive wages seen as he's barely played a game since his pay rise!
5.) 23 Oct 2015 19:44:46
Agree wth previous replies and also Sturridge was supposed to be a bonus this season the main striker was supposed to be Benteke with Ings as a second when the assumption is that Sturtidge will be unfit more often than not. Because he is so talented and suits our game so well probly more than benteke it feels we miss him badly but his injuries were predicted. At least no onw will try to steal him from us.
6.) 23 Oct 2015 19:47:01
and he got that pay rise while out injured, there is no chance anyone will buy him as he is on huge wages, were kinda stuck with him, just got to get him fit, and scoring, we need him right now .
7.) 23 Oct 2015 20:13:26
Perhaps Man City can buy him back as a squad option, and they certainly can afford his wages and any transfer fee. They probably don't need to rely on him as they will have Aguero too.
But IMO, LFC should have bought pertinently keeping in mind the injury issues Sturridge has, and they are not going to clear up. We have Benteke and Origi in the team and Ings on the sidelines, and let's see what these boys can do this season.
8.) 23 Oct 2015 20:25:54
Yeah I do believe there are teams out there who would buy Sturridge.
We didn't pay a crazy amount for him so sell him at a small loss and that will be fine.
I don't understand all the people who say he is our best striker and we need to manage his fitness better.
You cannot manage fitness of people when they are younger. He should be fully capable of playing two games a week every week at his age.
Like I said before it's no good having quality players if they hardly ever play.
Move him on, take a loss and get a replacement who spends more time in their own room than the physios!
Cheers
S.
9.) 23 Oct 2015 23:48:52
At some point and I hate to say this, a decision will have to be made about whether Studge is worth keeping at the club. Why? because his injuries or inability to play five games in a row is costing us and the club a lot on the pitch and in wages.
I would never have given him a raise until he proved his fitness and right now, he's of no use to us injured all the time regardless of how talented he may be, football is a business and in the end, if he can't play and earn the wages, he's of no use to us. And if he's of no use to us, why is he here? Just a thought.
10.) 24 Oct 2015 11:47:24
Sturridge's scoring record in the league for us since he joined has been excellent. When he plays he is quality. We shouldn't turn against him because of his injuries.
24 Sep 2015 16:27:29
Good afternoon,
I understand that we have many problems defensively however I am more concerned about goals scored at the minute.
I hear people saying we need to concentrate on keeping a clean sheet and the rest will follow. I disagree.
I feel we have a squad of talented attacking players and we need to concentrate on using that to score more than one goal a game as is the norm.
If we scored two goals a game for the rest of the season we will win far more than we don't.
Obviously we need to work defensively however I feel we need to get back to our attacking ways and make the most of the talent we have.
In an ideal world we would have a balance of the two however that is not looking likely any time soon.
On a positive note can things realistically get any worst?
1.) 24 Sep 2015 18:52:48
Yeah, we could have lost yesterday
15 Sep 2015 19:30:29
Good evening,
I am just interested to know everyone's opinion on where our current squad would rank on paper compared to other teams in the premier league.
If all players were fit and performing to the highest standard I believe we would rank 4th behind city, Chelsea and arsenal.
What does everyone think?
Cheers
1.) 15 Sep 2015 20:02:06
Hard to do when they are not being put in the best conditions to succeed hence, hard to evaluate
2.) 15 Sep 2015 20:29:48
Keepers:
1st - Courtois
2nd - De Gea
3rd - Hart
4th - Cech
5th- Lloris
6th - Mignolet
So, our keeper (IMO opinion) is 6th best and arguably the most important member of a strong spine isn't even in the top 4.
Not a good start on paper
3.) 15 Sep 2015 20:30:48
It's extremely hard to call between united and us, the three you mention - yes. Who ever has the better manager will finish forth. So obviously that will be united.
4.) 15 Sep 2015 21:06:25
Hart is by far the best keeper in the league.
{Ed001's Note - in which league? Because he is not even close in the Prem, though defo ahead of Migs.}
5.) 15 Sep 2015 21:18:10
De Gea is the best in the PL, hands down. The guy pretty much dragged Utd to the CL on the back of points-winning saves and performances. Hart? You must be joking.
6.) 15 Sep 2015 21:34:30
Cech should be the second best behind anyone. He is a complete keeper
7.) 15 Sep 2015 21:34:53
i'd say how about taking couthino out of the team and where would we belong in the prem ,has good as sturridge is he has to be on the field to play football and there is no way we would get 3 full seasons out of him , so i would not count him in a bit like enrique
8.) 15 Sep 2015 21:54:35
Ddg is the best in my opinion. Cech and Lloris would be above Hart also. Begovic would also be well up there, at least ahead of Mignolet.
9.) 15 Sep 2015 21:55:09
Im not sure how to decide the best, de gea has had a poor season and a great one, Courtois had one mixed one, lloris has had a few good ones, cech has had many great ones.
I'd also argue that possibly begovic, and maybe even Forster butland Howard foster Guzan etc may all be considered better than mignolet by their supporters
10.) 15 Sep 2015 22:06:45
How about Begovic! I'd say he was ahead of Migs.
11.) 15 Sep 2015 22:13:29
Mignolet is the worst keeper we ever had .hes not in top15 in prem .cant kick throw or even roll the ball out worst distribution I've ever seen the only time he touches the ball is top pick it up out the net .but he still has more touches than all of our front 3 . Terrible keeper
12.) 15 Sep 2015 23:56:57
Migs is defo not even in the top 6 keepers in the premier league. I rate Adrian and pantilamon along with the others mentioned above him.
13.) 15 Sep 2015 23:26:24
He ain't the worst mate.
14.) 16 Sep 2015 00:16:54
De Gea should have won player of the season, Hazards a good player but it just affirmed the idea Britain fawns over attackers more than defensive players when Chelsea's title win was founded upon their defense and Matic. De Gea single handedly (well double, technically) took United into the top four and probably won them half their games in all competitions. All of those three deserved it ahead of Hazard.
15.) 16 Sep 2015 05:03:48
Fraser forster, Hugo lloris, De Gea, Courtois, krul, Howard, Guzan just about ever keeper is as good as or better than Mignolet here.
16.) 16 Sep 2015 09:23:24
Hart is just about okay IMO. If he wasn't English, nobody would be using him as an example and his many mistakes would have been more highlighted.
18 Feb 2015 21:03:59
Good evening,
I was just wondering out of interest if the champions league group stages had started in January whether we would be watching Liverpool in the knockout stages.
We have been much improved this year and I feel we would have comfortably got through the group if we just had those extra few months to gel as a team.
Oh well no use crying over spilt milk we will just have to win the Europa league instead!!!!
Cheers
M
1.) Of course we would it was a disgrace we got knocked out and even at that was the last match
2.) Oh come on, really? Please tell me we haven't resorted to what ifs, we are out, fairly easy group and failed to come through so let it go.
Let's just hope we keep the great run going and get in there again next year and then hopefully we won't be as poor as we were this year.
3.) That is a dear BR question IMO, because our group was weak enuff to get out of BUT he decided to play that dreadful pass -pass system vs Basel. Also, when it was clear we needed a win, he left Lallana, Coutinho, Can and Moreno on the bench and we ended up w/ Skrtel up top. Says it all, really.
4.) 19 Feb 2015 16:54:41
He got us there in the first place.
You learn more from the things you do wrong than by the things you do right.
It's all in the bank and even though it was only 6 games the players and manager will have learned a lot from that.
29 Dec 2014 21:29:42
Good evening,
I openly admit I have expressed my frustration with coutinho more than once over the years but that lad has some unbelievable talent. When he is in the mood like he is tonight he is completely unplayable.
Much improved attacking peformance but still look disjointed defensively.
Well done lads
Cheers
M
25 Oct 2015 17:16:37
We may well win this game but to all the people who say we have plenty of attacking threat in the three games we have played under klopp and the beginning of the season under Rodgers I am yet to see any.
We look completely flat going forward, weak on the ball, give the ball away on a regular basis and still prone to a defensive error.
We have some good players however very few have stepped up and shown what they can do this season.
We need to improve every aspect of our game second half.
24 Oct 2015 18:30:06
My reading is just fine mate.
I did ok getting the three degrees j have so I must be pretty reasonable at interpreting language.
You need to have a look at what your writing because you were implying that it would be crazy to replace Sturridge however in my opinion it would be crazy to not replace him.
24 Oct 2015 17:27:07
Mikey1985 what are you talking about?
Are you telling me the forward line we have without Sturridge is good enough to win the league?
Benteke is very injury prone and will not score the goals that are required to win the league.
Firmino looks ok but is still completely unproven in the premier league.
Sinclair is a kid and completely unproven in the premier league.
Origi is a kid who looks ok in bursts but would not make it in any top six team right now.
Ings unfortunately is out for the remainder of the season which is a shame because he looked a real threat.
So yes I feel if we were to sell Sturridge we would need a replacement, further to that I feel we should sell him. Does that make me an idiot?
23 Oct 2015 20:25:54
Yeah I do believe there are teams out there who would buy Sturridge.
We didn't pay a crazy amount for him so sell him at a small loss and that will be fine.
I don't understand all the people who say he is our best striker and we need to manage his fitness better.
You cannot manage fitness of people when they are younger. He should be fully capable of playing two games a week every week at his age.
Like I said before it's no good having quality players if they hardly ever play.
Move him on, take a loss and get a replacement who spends more time in their own room than the physios!
Cheers
S.