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03 Dec 2017 23:09:49
I think someone in the Liverpool hierarchy should remind Mo Salah before it's too late that he has signed a contract until 30th June 2022. He did not sign a contract until Real Madrid come knocking on the door.

ben de weer

{Ed002's Note - Firstly Real Madrid did not come knocking. Secondly it is naive to expect players to see out their contracts.


1.) 04 Dec 2017 04:12:44
Or How about we actually win a few trophies there by making the existing players and new arrivals some amount of belief that we actually mean business and not mere Arsenal!


2.) 04 Dec 2017 04:31:02
well atleast i can agree to that Harry.

players stay in a title winning and challenging team.

we haven't challenged in years. in the past 10 seasons, i believe we finished 2nd twice and 4th twice. the rest were not good enough.

we need to change that if we want to sign more players like salah, and keep players like salah.

{Ed001's Note - that is not true. Neymar left Barcelona. PSG have lost many players while winning the league, as did Lyon prior to that. It is never as simple as Harry makes out because life is not simple.}


3.) 04 Dec 2017 05:07:00
Neymar is a greedy pig that ran after more money and wanted to be the star attraction without Messi's shadow looming over him. You can hardly compare that situation with other footballers. I cannot think any footballer would want to leave Barcelona or Real with respect to lack of ambition. Neymar is an exception.
PSG play in an average league and its always going to be difficult to keep the best players motivated when there is next to no competition in the league itself. Monaco's team has been ripped apart and once again PSG have no competition. And which players exactly have they lost that they were desperate to keep Ed001? Ibra only comes to mind and he is on his last legs. They managed to keep Verratti off Barca's clutches and that's impressive considering he was their first choice target.

{Ed001's Note - Neymar Sr wanted the money, Jr would have preferred to stay put, but I don't see how it shows ambition to go to Barcelona, whereas you think going to PSG is about money. PSG want to win the Champions League, so surely going there could be as much about that ambition to win it with them as money? You are making assumptions that are unfair.

PSG never wanted to keep Ibra, but, in recent seasons they have seen a lot of players come and go that they would have liked to keep. It is only this season that has changed because they have to offload a bunch due to FFP. I am not going to write a list. Monaco is another good case in point though, if you have ambition to win things, why do you leave a team that has just won the league and challenged in the Champions League?

Simply put, for many reasons. Sometimes their ambitions go beyond winning Ligue 1, others left because they were unhappy that other players were sold. Some it was about money. One that wanted to go was not allowed to.}


4.) 04 Dec 2017 07:05:48
ed001 im not saying that is the only way to keep a player, i fully understand your point and i agree, however, surely being able to challenge gives players more reason to stay or atleast something to think about.

no club in the world will be able to hold onto all their players. however, if we do manage to challenge and win titles, atleast we'll be able to keep some from leaving. some who has the burning desire to win and improve, and win more titles with us.

sure some will leave, and i get that, they are human too there are other reasons to leave, its not just money, sometimes its family, culture, weather even.

{Ed001's Note - it will help with some yes.}


5.) 04 Dec 2017 07:13:55
Have I missed the part where Salah states he can’t wait to take Bales place at RM? He looks pretty happy to me. I’m sure we will get a few seasons out of the lad yet.


6.) 04 Dec 2017 07:16:11
Ed002 is correct about players not seeing out their contracts but i think it is in poor taste to get your agent to sound out another club only a few months after signing for your new club.


7.) 04 Dec 2017 12:06:16
I do honestly believe if our defence was not such an absolute joke then our best players would be more inclined to stay, the lack of progress in these areas of the club is why they are getting fed up so soon imo.


 

 

26 Nov 2017 15:54:52
I think it's about time that football became an 80 minutes games like the two rugby codes. That way we would have a lot more points and other teams (Arsenal 1-0 in 92nd minute) would have less!

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03 Nov 2017 15:16:50
Can In - 9.75m - Out - 0

Coutinho In - 8.5 m - Out - 90/ 100 m

Both ridiculous prices but that';s football for you.

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1.) 03 Nov 2017 16:51:22
When everyone is fit will Klopp now continue to use Can or will he stick him on the bench? Any idea Eds?

{Ed001's Note - it is a squad game.}


2.) 03 Nov 2017 17:28:11
Sounds like good business to me.


3.) 04 Nov 2017 00:42:59
Trying to sugar the pill of losing a valued player for free by linking it randomly with another likely departure means nowt. What we have spent on Can far and away exceeds the reported transfer fee alone. How about wages? Agent fees? If you want to be brutal and business-like, How about expected appreciation due to the training invested in the guy?
Why not pair his departure with the dozens of teens we’ll undoubtedly let go for free this summer having invested in throughout their development? The figure seems different depending on the skewed backdrop you give it. As Ed2 always says, ignore the numbers.


4.) 04 Nov 2017 03:12:16
It's even out by us letting go Suso on cheap. Now suso worth at least 65mil.


5.) 03 Nov 2017 21:36:33
Eds any truth in the rumour Guardiola will enter the running for Can.

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware, although MC need to be careful over spending and wages.}


 

 

05 Oct 2017 15:04:04
Had Gerrard made that pass for the Newcastle goal it would have been referred to as a 'World Class defence-splitting pass'. Because the defenders were Liverpool everyone is looking for an excuse for blame. The fact is that Matip realised that there was a mistake and got back to correct it. He was extremely unlucky to play the ball against the attacker's shin. Joselu knew nothing about and scored the luckiest goal that he will ever score and let's face he doesn't score many. It may have been lucky but it still counts for as much as the brilliant goal from Coutinho. Sometimes football isn't fair.

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1.) 05 Oct 2017 18:19:26
Oh come on ben you know that isn't true. Matip did well to get back true but there was no way that you can say it's okay for that line to be doing anything but dropping back when that ball is it. It's a defensive error, and a bad one when we were under absolutely no pressure whatsoever. The ball was well hit, pin point accuracy but that does not mean it should have done the damage it did.


2.) 05 Oct 2017 18:36:55
Well they could have stepped forward and played him offside?


3.) 05 Oct 2017 19:48:20
Spot on, Hijkle and Ron. Ben, fact of the matter is that both CB's were not just ball watching, they seemed to be match watching. They were busy watching the game the same way we as fans, watch games and completely forgot they were IN the game as they had no clue where Joselu was and the space btw them was like a gulf. If not, how can one explain how when Shelvey picked up the ball, everyone in the stadium and at home knew the pass was coming YET our CB's were nowhere to be found. They don't play the offside nor drop deep. They just stand there on their heels like tourists.

Matip did get back which is an improvement in itself as Ed01 and many others have been roasting him for being lazy in this regard BUT it should never have come to that as Newcastle of NO danger to us until injury time where Diame almost scored. This is why Klopp is losing his mind on the touch line.


4.) 06 Oct 2017 10:48:47
As soon as Shelvey gets the ball the centrebacks should have reacted. If you watch the goal again they're square on and not on the half turn, they're static and they're too far apart. The same was true for one of the city goals. Yes coaching can address this, but they're experienced players and not youngsters so they should know this already. It was a decent run and good pass, but the defending was dreadful.


5.) 08 Oct 2017 04:44:54
Have you guys ever asked why it was so easy to get through. I replayed that goal over and over again. We were playing high up and our defensive midfielder was nowhere to block that guys "sublime" pass. Everyone wants to just put the defenders down but never look to the DM he needs to cover when the wing backs push forward. He can't wander off and get in on the action. He must play his role.

{Ed001's Note - it doesn't matter about that, if the defence are not reacting to the loss of the ball by getting closer and dropping off, then we are always going to lose silly goals. Yes the midfield should have been in and around him, but that does not excuse how bad the defenders did.}


 

 

25 Sep 2017 11:02:03
I sent in a post last week about "pundits" but it wasn't published. I think that I forgot to mention Garth Crook who is probably the worst of the lot. In his team of the week today he has Mignolet in goal and made the comment that Liverpool didn't deserve to win. He is wrong on both counts. Another thing I spotted in the match was that there was no comment about the free-kick leading up to the first goal and a booking for Matip. Vardy hooked his foot around Matip and then fell. This constitutes a dive and both decisions regarding the free-kick should have been reversed. But Vardy is one of the players who gets away with things. In my opinion he is just a face looking for a slap!

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1.) 25 Sep 2017 11:29:01
I'm so mad at Mignolet for not cleaning Vardy out on that Penalty decision. If he wants to kick that, he should've put the ball into Row Z, and Vardy into the floor. Grobelaar would have gone in face first, held the ball, and still broken the attackers knees.

Vardy was playing dirty games all day, and Mignolet had a chance at check mate, but bottled it.

Disgusting though when you think that 3 of our defenders got booked. Matip for getting kicked for a blatant dive, Lovren for getting hip thrown at a corner, and Gomez for getting elbowed in the face! Meanwhile Vardy got away with countless late tackles, dives, at least 2 counts of dangerous play, and deliberately bashing into Moreno off the ball after leaving studs on him! Vardy is lucky Moreno is made of tougher stuff than most, because if he'd gone down holding his face, it could've been different.

I second what Ron said. I hope Leicester go down and take Vardy with them.


2.) 25 Sep 2017 11:32:34
Couldn't agree more, Ben. Don't know Crooks that much but if he indeed said what you say he said, then I'm okay not knowing who he is as his love in for Mings is creepy and saying that we did not deserve the win after dominating scoring three goals on the road, is just bizarre.

I do agree that Vardy is just DF. The dive he did to draw the foul on Matip is the same type dive he did multiple times when LC won the title to get penalties and the only ref he did not fool was John Moss vs WH who saw throuh his crap an booked him a second time hence, sending him off.

Also, his two late challenges on Moreno should have been enough for two bookings and a red already BUT we all know how crap Taylor was so no point talking too much about that.


3.) 25 Sep 2017 11:36:36
Matip would never ever beat vardy on pace! If not that incident he was always going to get a penalty

Remember Sturridge dive against UTD to get vidic sent off😄😄. Those biased rose tinted glass. Move on mate. We won and who cares about rest!


4.) 25 Sep 2017 11:48:27
Good stuff harry, should rename yourself the contrarian.

Taylor had an absolute mare but I'm sure we'll get a game where most of the calls go our way. Swings and roundabouts lads.


5.) 25 Sep 2017 11:49:17
Harry you just be a United fan to remember something like that! Vidic hasn't played at United for years and i don't ever remember Sturridge diving. I remember a debate about it once when his trailing heel was clearly clipped, and all the sofa experts who have never been able to run quicker than 5mph lost their minds due to a complete lack of understanding about how easy it is to be tripped at speed. But that is about it.

Suarez certainly did dive though, and we all lambasted him for it as he constantly embarrassed the club. So why should we let Vardy off for embarrassing Leicester? They want to improve their status in European football, yet they continue to sign brutes, and employ violent and barbaric tactics. It's no wonder players like Mahrez and Kante want to leave. They're just a bunch of thugs.


6.) 25 Sep 2017 12:45:29
Thing is, pundits are entitled to their opinion and lots of times it's framed to be more controversial so it creates debate.
It would be easy to have De Gea in goal every week, but they have to keep themselves (mildly) interesting.


7.) 25 Sep 2017 13:15:04
Crooks fails to make himself interesting each and every week Ron, he's a total embarrassment.


8.) 25 Sep 2017 14:14:31
Ron he could've picked Lossl? He kept a clean sheet and made a few saves. Mignolet made a couple of easy saves but gave away stupid corners trying to make them camera worthy, gifted the opposition 2 goals, gave away a penalty which i could've saved etc. The only thing which was unusually above average about his performance was his kicking. Aside from that it was the worst goal keeping performance I've seen since god knows when. Oh yeah, since Mignolet played against Man City!

Crooks has clearly just heard Mignolet saved a penalty to keep it at 2-3 and put him in just because of that.


9.) 25 Sep 2017 14:17:42
Diving, whether people like it or not, remains part of the game. the way vardy throws himself around to leave something on a player and attempt to con the officials is what irritates me personally.


10.) 25 Sep 2017 13:54:19
sorry ron i don't think most pundits do have an opinion of their own i think they tread the company line just like when the controversy with neville and arsenaltv his answer was my bosses sky are loving me now there name is all over the place.


11.) 25 Sep 2017 20:09:19
Ron you do know that Sly pundits are given a script on what they should say about what team, manager or player, right? So NO, pundits do not have an opinion for the most part as they say some of the dumbest things that beggar belief. Ron, you would make a brilliant pundit except you are given a script of what narrative to peddle and then, you would be just like them at Sky, at least.


12.) 26 Sep 2017 15:41:38
Ok so the BBC want Mignolet in goal.

I really can't see what the BBC's agenda is with our goalkeeping situation. 😄.


 

 

 

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20 Nov 2017 22:22:16
Hi Port Red Why would you want a player at the club who doesn't want to be there? Why would you want an editor on this site that no-one wants to be there? I also think that most fans think their club is special - there is nothing wrong with that!

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19 Nov 2017 12:44:26
My understanding is that he wants 150,000 per week and that the release clause is somewhere between 25,000 and 30,000.

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19 Nov 2017 08:56:34
He seemed committed yesterday and what about the 'big luv' between him and Klopp when he was substituted!

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19 Nov 2017 08:55:10
Specifically HIGH money and LOW release clause. Oh for the optimism of youth!

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{Ed001's Note - it is not as high as you would think, he would get more by moving. And the release clause is much more than we would get if he just left in summer. Not sure that it is that optimistic personally, his agent is just making sure Can can get out if he is pushed into the background.}


 

 

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08 Nov 2017 13:05:13
Hi FPF - logic is fine but desire to join Liverpool is even finer. The player has given no indication that he would like to join Liverpool. He would much rather go to Italy or Spain. Unfortunately most of the players that we would like to sign are wanted by other bigger clubs which have more to offer to some players.

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26 Nov 2017 15:56:39
Liverpool always lose against teams with new managers - the players have to make an impression before the transfer window opens.

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06 Nov 2017 07:47:35
We'd better singing about Patsy Cline!

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04 Nov 2017 08:54:05
Relaxlabrudder makes a good point - they are all EX-players. While they were at Liverpool a lot of fans were criticising them - Luis Alberto and Aspas especially and let's face it they didn't light up the sky when they were given an opportunity. The best we can say about Reina is that he was (and probably still is) a lot better than what we have now. As for Suso - he left because Coutinho came and is only now showing his promise. I would have liked him to stay but I think that he wanted to go. My main point is that they are no longer with Liverpool and as they are not playing for in the Premier League what they are doing is irrelevant. Let's face it the top clubs in England all contain EX-players from other clubs. We have a good one ourselves - Mo Salah.

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17 Oct 2017 21:52:07
You stick to whacking it Ed025 you're probably good at that - you have to be good at something!

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{Ed025's Note - im good at most things ben, i was descibed as ubiquitous in the liverpool pink echo many moons ago mate..


 

 

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05 Oct 2017 14:53:26
Who needs a reason? The answer is simple - BECAUSE THEY ARE THERE!

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