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27 Nov 2018 21:11:47
I'm 31 so I only managed to see parts of Robbie Fowler, and appreciate how talented he was. Two questions why did he only get 12 starts for England and do you think Alan Shearer was a better striker than Fowler? My Newcastle supporting brother worships Shearer but says Fowler was better.

Zeppelin

{Ed025's Note - i do like robbie zeppelin hes the local cheeky chappy from toxteth who made it good, but lets not be silly and compare him to shearer, he only got a dozen caps for a reason mate..he never produced it at international level, great goalscorer though and a very nice guy..


1.) 27 Nov 2018 21:20:55
Different players, difficult to compare.

Fowler had far more talent, Shearer has more graft and more craft. Shearer was more focussed on success.
Players don’t get caps for all sorts of reasons. Sometimes the team doesn’t play to their strengths. Look at John Barnes for England or Ian Wright.


2.) 27 Nov 2018 21:27:44
That's a bit harsh on him, didn't he have a lot of injuries that held him back? as I say I didn't see much of him in his Prime so I can't argue with you. I saw a lot of Shearer and I've always said he was the most natural finisher I've seen. I'm more of a Bergkamp fan though. Who do think was the best striker in the English game in your time.

{Ed025's Note - thierry henry was amazing zeppelin and hes the best of the premiership era for me, as an evertonian even im a bit young to have seen dixie dean so bob latchford was the best blue i have seen, big fan of kevin keegan and named my first son after him as he was not only good but gave 100% every time, no doubt some will say roger hunt or kenny were better but we all have our own opinions mate..


3.) 27 Nov 2018 21:58:49
Fair shout for Henry it's hard to find a more complete striker he could play off the left, run from deep, play on the shoulder or with his back to goal. That Arsenal side was also the most exciting team to watch in the EPL era i don't even think this City team is as exciting to watch as old Gunners.

{Ed025's Note - i would agree with that mate, bergkamp and henry were fantastic and with viera and adams and seaman in goal what a spine that was, a total joy to watch..


4.) 27 Nov 2018 21:59:34
I never had you down as a fellow Keeganite Ed025, wonders never cease.

{Ed025's Note - i even had the curly perm juicer, i was working by lime st years ago doing road repairs and kevin came past going to wembley to face ireland, one of our gang asked him if he wanted a cuppa and sure enough he sat with us in the caravan and insisted he had a cup without a handle and chatted for about 15 minutes about football, true story mate....minutes later steve highway passed and was made the same offer but sadly refused, lovely down to earth guy kevin and from that day on he was a bit of a hero for me..reluctantly.. :)


5.) 27 Nov 2018 22:01:29
Yeah Thierry Henry for me too in the PL era, he was just unbelievable.

{Ed025's Note - great player mate..


6.) 27 Nov 2018 22:02:50
My all time favourite player. Injuries and the emerging owen mucked up his career.
I firmly belive be would be in top 5 England goalscorers if it not for those factors.


7.) 27 Nov 2018 22:24:12
Ha, a Scouser with a perm working on the black stuff. Love it Ed.
To be fair to Keegan, he was a feather cut man whilst at the Reds, far cooler.
Agree with the Henry sentiments too, fastest footballer I’ve ever seen. Frightening.

{Ed025's Note - i remember him giving carra a 10 yard start over 15 yards in one run juicer...and still beat him by 4 yards, also played with a smile on his face and i like that mate..


8.) 27 Nov 2018 22:44:07
I'm only 24 so the best Prem striker I've ever seen regularly in their prime was probably Torres, Drogba or Aguero. Torres as the complete number 9, Drogba as the target man, and Aguero as the dynamic trickster. I can't really split them because they were all different players.

Suarez could have been up there with Aguero if he hadn't been such a POS and give it 3 more seasons and I reckon Salah will be right up there (in his new role) .

My favourite strikers to watch on highlight are Henry, Fowler, Bergkamp and Andy Cole but I barely remember any of them actually playing live.


9.) 27 Nov 2018 23:16:53
In terms of technique, Fowler at his peak was on par with Suarez. He mightn't have been as overtly flashy in terms of dribbling and speed, but his touch, movement and hold up play were just as good, and his striking was arguably better.

If he'd had a manager who was willing to work him and Owen into a proper partnership (which would've been easily do-able) when he was at his peak instead of Houllier, and maybe took slightly better care of himself when injured, I'd say he'd have gotten a lot more than the 26 caps he did.

Better than Shearer? It's kinda hard to argue with Shearers numbers, so I can't go that far. And they're not really the same type of player anyway. It's a little like asking who's better out of Dalglish and Rush.


10.) 27 Nov 2018 23:20:32
If only George best was able too play in the premiership cos he was so so so good his close control dribbling was unreal on some of the worst pitches u have ever seen, I know he was a man United player but hand on heart he up there with maradonna pele and the likes, check him out on YouTube if u haven't seen how good he is . Also his vulnerabilities make me love the guy even more he was a party animal but played like a man possessed.


11.) 28 Nov 2018 06:27:45
That's correct. The full afro size perm came in only when he moved to Hamburg. But Keegan is still my favorite all time LFC player. Got me hooked onto Liverpool.


12.) 28 Nov 2018 07:42:39
Agree with hailstones on Best, the 3rd best player of all time for me 👍.


13.) 28 Nov 2018 08:12:10
Also opposition tried too kick the crap out of George best an he just got up an skipped past everyone, I don't even think he wore shingaurds jus rolled down socks, true legend!


14.) 28 Nov 2018 15:26:44
I'm surprised no one else has called the OP on this so I will.

What "parts of Robbie Fowler" did you see, Zeppelin, and was a responsible adult in the room at all times?


15.) 28 Nov 2018 16:13:42
Agree with MK. For me the most complete striker I have seen in the PL era is Drogba. He had the lot and proved people wrong after a slow start with Chelsea. Movement, pace, power, two footed, good in the air, was quick and could hold the ball up. I hated that Chelsea bought him the summer after he bullied the LFC in europe when he was still playing for that french team, was it Marseilles? I can't remember.


16.) 28 Nov 2018 17:02:29
Drogba was a great player but he done a fair share of diving. Robbie Fowler was a fantastic player totally relying on his natural ability, by that I mean he did not put hours of extra training to improve. He demonstrated his fairness to against David Seaman asking the ref not to award him a penalty. I loved him.


 

 

06 Nov 2018 11:51:00
Edd001 you mentioned in your review you don't think we need a number 10 but more of a Kante type. Possibly Naby will fill that role, don't you feel we lack a midfielder that dictates the tempo of the game, a Neves, Alonso type deep lying playmaker. The only criticism I have of the current team is against big teams I don't feel like we control the game on the ball. Our creativity seems to come from pouncing on mistakes as apposed to good build up play. Adding Shaq right now leaves us exposed, then we have similar type midfielders safe hard working, and then we have Ox who is the most unique but not really creative. There was a plan for a CAM at some point, do you still see the need for one or is it more of a luxury?

Zeppelin

{Ed001's Note - not really. Shaqiri can play the CAM role and Fabinho can play a deep lying playmaker role not sure we need either right now.}


1.) 06 Nov 2018 18:02:43
If klopp really thought we need a cam I guess he would have signed one. When I look at our midfielders there seems to be a theme. They are all industrious work horses but guys with skill too. Gini could easily be used as a cam but klopp has redirected the guy and he's been brilliant.

When you have three super quick, highly skillful forwards and two full backs who quite often get in front of our attackers then you want three solid midfielders. Everyone of them can tackle bar shaq maybe. Even lallana can get his foot in the ox.

Shaq has been great for us but it's risky starting him in big games. And if we signed a cam I think XS's chances would be diminished.

The thing that has surprised me is sturridge being frozen out after performing excellently early on, scoring twice as many goals as Firmino in a third of the amount of games. Surely he would have been a good late sub rather than matip at arsenal.

Eds, what is going on with klopp and sturridge? I have heard some things about Danny as a bloke that made me wince. Just rumours so I won't repeat.


2.) 06 Nov 2018 21:40:39
Agree with you, Robbie. Could we do with a no. 10? Sure. However, people seem to forget that our mids as they are do not need to be that creative to create chances. Remember, LFC have created LOADS of chances this season and in many cases, we have not taken enuff of them. Even in the games we have scored 4 or 3 goals in, we created enuff chances to score more, ALL without a no. 10. I mean, look at the Aresenal game. We did not play our best game YET we created enuff clear chances to win.

Also, we did not have Cou after Jan. We had Ox yet that did not stop us from pummeling teams and scoring goals for fun. People seem to have forgotten all that and just focus on the obvious. I am confident we will get better BUT we have to keep working on things and hopefully, Keita can be the player we already know he is cos he is vital to us right now.


 

 

05 Aug 2018 21:00:15
I know this is the liverpool page, but we had an interest in Julian Brandt a couple of seasons ago and then went for Salah. I would have thought teams would have been after him this season, does he not want to leave yet or is he being priced out of a move? Is he not ready for a big move yet. Just find it interesting that bigger clubs haven't snapped him up yet. Bayern still playing with 40 year old wingers.

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16 Jul 2018 21:13:09
I' might have missed it but I looked. I promise. Is there hype around Curtis Jones, the boy looks composed and comfortable on the ball bases on the limited sample size against weaker opposition. However he seems to be doing all the basics right, move into space make the right pass, picks up good defensive spaces. What does the academy make of this young boy he looks like he could be develop into a Cmd or box to Box. Like a Dembele esk type, good om the ball, not fly can dribble a bit. Anyone else rate this kid?

Zeppelin

1.) 16 Jul 2018 21:51:44
I think he's brilliant, I watched him last season and he stood out every game for the u23s. I just hope he gets his chances as he seems to have adapted to the first team well albeit in pre season against weak opposition. He made the step up from the u18s to the u23s mid last season and he made it look effortless so hopefully he can do that again this time with the senior team. He's certainly the one to watch from the academy and the most likely to step up to first team football.

{Ed025's Note - the thing is da red man that the calibre of signings liverpool have made (and i dont think they are finished yet) means chances for the young guys will be few and far between mate, i wish i was wrong...but that hardly ever happens mate.. :)


2.) 16 Jul 2018 23:37:41
True Ed, and has been for a while. When I see us sign players who can't make the step up at Chelsea, I wonder whether it is to develop them a bit more at reserve level with a view to on sell.

{Ed002's Note - It doesnt win leagues.}


3.) 17 Jul 2018 09:41:56
Looks really good, I think he has a chance.


4.) 17 Jul 2018 09:26:03
You're right ed025 for once there mate;)

{Ed025's Note - even a broken clock is right twice a day.. :)


 

 

04 May 2017 20:06:43
Ed01 I was listening to a podcast, a bunch of guys that do stats on every game pretty interesting. One stat stood out for me. Wijnaldum has the least amount of touches on average when playing teams outside the top six. However against the top six teams he touches the ball 20 more times on average. Against Watford he touched the ball 40 times, the least of any player that played more than 60 minutes. I know it's stats but what is your opinion on Gini? He does seem to go missing but I obviously can't see runs off the ball, defence positioning etc. What is everyone's opinion on Gini so far? I love him sometimes and other times I forget he is on the pitch.

Zeppelin

{Ed001's Note - I think he is growing into the team. The amount of touches is irrelevant, against the lesser sides we have more space and control of the ball, so the ball tends to end up with the ball carriers and players while he makes forward runs to create space for them to work. Whereas he sits deeper against the top six, so gets more of the ball, rather than doing the unselfish work of making space and dragging people out of position.

To be honest, the touch map, heat map and touches of the ball stats are pretty much irrelevant.}


1.) 04 May 2017 21:12:25
Thanks Edd, I know stats like those, on its own is irrelevant, just found it interesting. Gini is not the type of player every fan appreciates. his one touch passing and strength on the ball is very important to how we play. Once again thanks for your response, its always good to get different opinions if you're willing to learn.

{Ed001's Note - that is what I like about him, he doesn't tend to dwell on the ball, he is always looking to move it on quickly. If you move the ball quickly, you don't have to have pace to open up defences. I think it was Paisley that used to say to let the ball do the running.}


2.) 04 May 2017 22:28:34
I think that Gini will improve a lot next season, I get the impression that he needs to give the ball to a better team mate, next season, he will have more confidence . he will turn out to be a really good player for us .


3.) 04 May 2017 23:06:18
I commented a while back when asked for player of the season that I can understand Mane and Couts getting the nod, but that a player like Gini is only missed when he's out, much like Hendo. He'd be one of the first players on the sheet for me. Wasn't overly impressed with his first half dozen games or so, but he's been so consistent since then.


4.) 05 May 2017 09:05:38
Wijnaldum needs to add goals to his names to be called a top top CM.


5.) 05 May 2017 10:51:11
Could someone explain what is his role in Klopp's system. Apparently my understanding is limited and any opinions would be highly appreciated.


6.) 05 May 2017 10:58:06
I really like Gini, I think he's going to be a big players for us next season, but I do think he steps off the gas against the 'lesser' teams, I've noticed it a few times that he seems a bit sluggish against them, first touch is sloppy and he always wants to shift the ball and responsibility onto someone else. Hopefully its just a case of finding his feet and his place in the team and it won't happen as much next season.


7.) 05 May 2017 11:15:24
Would you say he's justified the price we payed for him? And has he exceeded your expectations?


8.) 05 May 2017 20:00:38
Harry, Gini's role will not flash on MOTD highlight reels BUT to only those who watch him closely, will see all the dirty work and good work he does on and off the ball.

His role is to make sure we keep possession of the ball in midfield and keep it moving. He repertoire is the same as Joe Allen's BUT more versatile as he is MUCH better than Allen.

Wij can play the B2B role easily as that was his role at PSV and Newcastle and with Holland at the last WC in Brazil. He has shown that he can score and assist (5 goals and 6/ 7 assists in all competitions) as well as get forward to support the attack, all the thinks Allen could never do here. It is a new role for him but he is adapting well and growing into the position. The hope is that he gets better.


 

 

 

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23 Aug 2017 17:38:40
I find it amazing how Napoli hold on to their best players for such a long time. It can't be due a lack of interest. Are they hard to deal with?

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{Ed001's Note - yes.}


 

 

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05 Jul 2016 22:44:37
He didn't say his coming. He liked two pictures linking him to Liverpool.

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16 May 2016 18:03:03
Thanks for the reply Edd. Always appreciated.

Zeppelin

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


 

 

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16 May 2016 17:07:25
Edd a better option financially and that he is willing to move or better as in a better prospect ability wise?

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27 Nov 2018 21:58:49
Fair shout for Henry it's hard to find a more complete striker he could play off the left, run from deep, play on the shoulder or with his back to goal. That Arsenal side was also the most exciting team to watch in the EPL era i don't even think this City team is as exciting to watch as old Gunners.

Zeppelin

{Ed025's Note - i would agree with that mate, bergkamp and henry were fantastic and with viera and adams and seaman in goal what a spine that was, a total joy to watch..


 

 

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27 Nov 2018 21:27:44
That's a bit harsh on him, didn't he have a lot of injuries that held him back? as I say I didn't see much of him in his Prime so I can't argue with you. I saw a lot of Shearer and I've always said he was the most natural finisher I've seen. I'm more of a Bergkamp fan though. Who do think was the best striker in the English game in your time.

Zeppelin

{Ed025's Note - thierry henry was amazing zeppelin and hes the best of the premiership era for me, as an evertonian even im a bit young to have seen dixie dean so bob latchford was the best blue i have seen, big fan of kevin keegan and named my first son after him as he was not only good but gave 100% every time, no doubt some will say roger hunt or kenny were better but we all have our own opinions mate..


 

 

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15 Nov 2018 08:00:11
Semi pro in SA and represented my province, the Western Cape. Yet Edd001 still has double the football knowledge I have when reading the game. Its weird how little Alan Shearer and Owen knows about football tactics and they were arguably the top 10 strikers in the EPL era.

Zeppelin

{Ed001's Note - playing and understanding it are different things mate. You only need to understand small amounts as a player, just the things that help you improve. As a coach you need to understand every players' role and how to get the best out of them etc.}


 

 

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24 Oct 2018 09:15:07
Really, I've seen a lot of people mention this about Juve. They honestly didn't look amazing yesterday, United are so slow in the middle of the park they made Westham look like world beaters. Their full backs impressed me the most, mostly their RB was very effective on the wings.

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09 Oct 2018 15:42:13
We are very much a Rugby Cricket nation, but even that has taken a drop due to politics, government bodies dictating how many players of colour should be in the National teams etc, that causes a divide in the support. A lot of our country supports opposition countries since the Apartheid days, we are trying to right the wrongs of the past and the most notable way is to show the world how diverse our sports teams are. This comes at the cost of quality instead of fixing the racial issues at grass root levels. Sorry if this became political, you don't gave to post it edd.

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