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20 May 2019 18:11:31
I've been watching some Bill Shankly interviews recently, I'm becoming absolutely obsessed with the man. I'm only 30 so I don't know what his teams were like, I just know he was extremely successful.

Question though, why did he retire from management when he did, and do you think it was to early? From what I saw he still seemed hungry and young enough to do another 5 years. I felt like in a couple of interviews he regrets leaving when he did. I was also surprised on how forward thinking he was in terms of resting young players and not burning players out.

Zeppelin

{Ed001's Note - he didn't retire, he just never wanted to work for anyone but Liverpool after his time with us. He used to regularly quit in order to get his way with the board, and I do mean regularly, he just used it once too often and they accepted his resignation. It nearly broke him.}


1.) 20 May 2019 21:31:19
Wow I didn't know that, that's extremely sad considering how highly he spoke of the club, I can only imagine how much that broke him. Do you feel he was right with his demands or was the board correct in not being held ransom? I remember Kevin K doing the same at Newcastle, at the time I saw it as petulance and a bit of a tantrum.


2.) 20 May 2019 22:33:49
Jesus Eds001, every day I learn something new.


3.) 20 May 2019 22:52:27
He was right in his demands but he went about it the wrong way. It is ok threatening to resign one or twice, but he was doing it much more often and it loses its value when you do that.


4.) 20 May 2019 23:07:57
Wow, Ed01. The fact that Shanks could not work for us anymore nearly broke him? That sounds horrifying.

{Ed001's Note - he was lost mate. He even ended up going to watch Everton things were so bad.}


5.) 21 May 2019 00:39:52
He would still go to Training when he first retired, but because the players still called him gaffa the board asked him to stop attending as it was undermining Paisley. He had upset the board with his comments that the club was about the fans, the players, the manager and that the board was only there to sign the cheques. He was expecting a seat on the board like Busby got at United, but they were frightened of him interfering
They did treat him bad though the only away game he was invited to was the 76 uefa cup final and they made him stay in a different hotel. He did help Toshack at Swansea and Ron Yeats at Tranmere and Wrexham and he use to commentate on the radio. Tommy Smith said it was Nessie that begged him to give up the job and he retired at 60 because he was tired and devoted to his wife, He also said the directors had become fed up with his demands and only Peter Robinson had tried to change his mind. We announced his departure on the same day we signed Ray Kennady so they expected him to stay but he had promised his wife he would leave and he did.


6.) 21 May 2019 07:34:10
There’s an old Johnny Giles radio interview on YouTube somewhere where he describes seeing Shankly around after he’d left Liverpool that bears Ed001 out.
Very sad really.


7.) 21 May 2019 12:22:48
this is fascinating. thanks for the knowledge. many of us who are not in England had no idea about all of this. that's why i love this site so much.


8.) 21 May 2019 16:27:40
I remember seeing video footage from match of the day from back then and they were asking Liverpool fans what they thought of shanks resigning and they were all in shock, but on the plus side his successer didn't do too bad a job now did he.


9.) 21 May 2019 18:40:34
My heart truly weeps for Shanks, Ed01. That is like I said, just horrifying for him.


 

 

15 Apr 2019 12:25:48
Great result yesterday, this is one of the most complete Liverpool teams I've ever seen. (I'm only 32) We have a top 5 GK, the best CB in the world imo, the best LB in the League, one of the best front 3's in world Football. I think the best winger in world football in Salah and one of the best LWs in the League, (Mane) . oh and one of the best managers in the world. Question for Ed01 if we are to keep all our first team players. What would you do this summer in terms of transfers? Would invest heavily on the continuity i. e. young players that will be ready in 2 - 3 years or would you add to our starting 11 with proven quality. If so what positions would you look at improving if any? Obviously would like to know everyone else's views. on the future.

Zeppelin

{Ed001's Note - full-backs to push the ones we have and allow them to have a rest if needed. No point buying back ups, they have to be at least good enough to make it a fight for the place.}


1.) 15 Apr 2019 13:22:02
I expect 3/ 4 signings max. Like Ed said a full back who can push, preferably keep Milner as cover too and let Lewis prove himself out on loan. A back up gk if migs leaves, a youngish cb to push vvd and Gomez if lovren or national leaves then finally a Brandt type player who can cover all the attacking positions. That would depend on departures of course but Lallana and Sturridge should be going, possibly Origi. My personal picks would be Pope, Aaron’s, tah, Brandt. Sorted!


2.) 15 Apr 2019 13:52:00
I sincerely hope origi stays. If you'd asked me 6 months ago, i would have said "give him away! "

I think decent fbs and a DS and AL replacement if they leave. Apart from that we are good. Oh and a back up keeper if migs leaves. (which i hope to god he does. Fed up with his mardy face even when we're 3 0 up in europe)


3.) 15 Apr 2019 14:12:47
Matip not national. Spellcheck and me being careless!


4.) 15 Apr 2019 14:42:59
I agree Learchy, I'd really like a world class RB and creative Center Mid/ LW, a young CB that has the potential to partner Gomez one day. Éder Militão would have been ideal as he plays RB and CB. 3 players would actually be perfect and a back up GK.


5.) 15 Apr 2019 14:45:08
Matip is fine for a back up cb. I reckon he has proved that in the last 4 months.


6.) 15 Apr 2019 15:34:28
I think we should be having a think about our 3rd and 4th choice centre backs, Matip and Lovren. I can see Lovren wanting to be first choice somewhere so might leave and Matip being in the squad scares me to be honest, I don’t get all this he’s good enough as a back up, he’s not.
Could both go? Then buy a third choice centre back who is reliable and a youngster from within.


7.) 15 Apr 2019 23:05:57
We have to remember both Lovren and Mario are on £100k a week, that's a lot for back up cbs, but also a lot for another team to take on when signing them.


8.) 16 Apr 2019 10:30:24
Spot on, Ed. We need competition for places in the team, not someone coming in whereby everyone knows he has no chance of ever being first choice. Whoever we bring in MUST be ready to compete for his spot and the platform has to reflect that when he is signed.
As for Matip, I myself, am his biggest critic (even tho I thought he was solid vs Chelsea) . He does not fill me with confidence and since Lovs won't want to be back up to Gomez when fit then I reckon he will be the one to part.


 

 

27 Feb 2019 13:37:22
What do the Eds make of Brendan Rogers to Leicester. Do you think it's good for both parties,

Do you think he became a better manager in Scotland. I haven't really watched them,

But I remember Rogers couldn't really change tactics or adapt to how the game was going. He didn't acknowledge his weakness and was a bit smug when it came to his own ability and learning from others with more experience. I actually hope he does well this time, he does play an exciting brand of football, we need more expansive styles of play in the EPL I'm tired of watching the Burnleys of this world kicking lumps out of the opposition.

Zeppelin

{Ed002's Note - It has been on the cards and another stepping stone to a top six English side, or perhaps to Spain. I am surprised it has been allowed to happen with the season underway.}


1.) 27 Feb 2019 16:13:27
Cultic fans are livid with him and I don't blame them. 2 months is all he had to wait. Finish the season with cultic, make history and then join a premier league club in the summer. I have a feeling that better jobs than Leicester will become available. Especially if spurs don't win any thing.


2.) 27 Feb 2019 17:25:00
Leicester have had to pay Celtic £6 Million to get him out of his contract. Keita just been talking on LFC Channel he has to have an Interpreter which is not good enough as he had a full season at RB Leipzig to learn English plus the 9 months he has here, no wonder his progress is slow if you can't communicate in English to your fellow team mates.
Liverpool under 18s this afternoon beat Stoke u18s 3-1 at Kirby, to go top of there league, Glatzel played so won't be involved tonight which is a shame. let's hope first team win tonight to replicate under 18s.


3.) 27 Feb 2019 18:43:07
Dembele tweeting i told you so, apparently something to do with him being disloyal.


 

 

13 Jan 2019 09:46:44
Ed when you find the time, I know you catching up so it won't be for a while. Could you possibly do a profile on Dennis Bergkamp. He is the reason I played football even as Liverpool supporters, he has to be my favourite EPL player, well him and Alonso now.

Zeppelin

{Ed001's Note - he is in the legends list so will get a profile along with the article there.}


1.) 13 Jan 2019 09:52:35
Thank you so much, I've read most of them, you are not waisting your time, I can only assume most of us appreciate the effort you put into them as I certainly do.

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate, glad to hear that.}


2.) 13 Jan 2019 09:55:20
Can't wait for that profile on Bergkamp. He's my favorite player of all time. Probably read 100s of articles on him and still want to read more.

{Ed001's Note - I have to admit he is one of my favourites too. I was gutted when Arsenal signed him.}


3.) 13 Jan 2019 10:25:44
The one player along with Van Basten who made me love football
the number one being john Barnes of course but these three for me are legends.


4.) 13 Jan 2019 10:58:39
And to think we got Collymore the same summer that Arsenal got Bergkamp and for less money!


5.) 13 Jan 2019 11:14:57
no mate we did not collymore came much later then bergkamp.


6.) 13 Jan 2019 13:44:54
Ed01, could you do one on thelegant CB Alessandro Nesta as well when you have the time?

{Ed001's Note - he is on the list too don't worry.}


7.) 13 Jan 2019 15:39:41
Don't think this will be a popular choice, but you could also pop/ sneak Carlos Tevez on the list please?

{Ed001's Note - ok mate added him.}


8.) 13 Jan 2019 23:01:45
Thank you ed!

{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate. To be fair, he does deserve to be on there, I just usually wait until a player fully retires before I consider them.}


 

 

27 Nov 2018 21:11:47
I'm 31 so I only managed to see parts of Robbie Fowler, and appreciate how talented he was. Two questions why did he only get 12 starts for England and do you think Alan Shearer was a better striker than Fowler? My Newcastle supporting brother worships Shearer but says Fowler was better.

Zeppelin

{Ed025's Note - i do like robbie zeppelin hes the local cheeky chappy from toxteth who made it good, but lets not be silly and compare him to shearer, he only got a dozen caps for a reason mate..he never produced it at international level, great goalscorer though and a very nice guy..


1.) 27 Nov 2018 21:20:55
Different players, difficult to compare.

Fowler had far more talent, Shearer has more graft and more craft. Shearer was more focussed on success.
Players don’t get caps for all sorts of reasons. Sometimes the team doesn’t play to their strengths. Look at John Barnes for England or Ian Wright.


2.) 27 Nov 2018 21:27:44
That's a bit harsh on him, didn't he have a lot of injuries that held him back? as I say I didn't see much of him in his Prime so I can't argue with you. I saw a lot of Shearer and I've always said he was the most natural finisher I've seen. I'm more of a Bergkamp fan though. Who do think was the best striker in the English game in your time.

{Ed025's Note - thierry henry was amazing zeppelin and hes the best of the premiership era for me, as an evertonian even im a bit young to have seen dixie dean so bob latchford was the best blue i have seen, big fan of kevin keegan and named my first son after him as he was not only good but gave 100% every time, no doubt some will say roger hunt or kenny were better but we all have our own opinions mate..


3.) 27 Nov 2018 21:58:49
Fair shout for Henry it's hard to find a more complete striker he could play off the left, run from deep, play on the shoulder or with his back to goal. That Arsenal side was also the most exciting team to watch in the EPL era i don't even think this City team is as exciting to watch as old Gunners.

{Ed025's Note - i would agree with that mate, bergkamp and henry were fantastic and with viera and adams and seaman in goal what a spine that was, a total joy to watch..


4.) 27 Nov 2018 21:59:34
I never had you down as a fellow Keeganite Ed025, wonders never cease.

{Ed025's Note - i even had the curly perm juicer, i was working by lime st years ago doing road repairs and kevin came past going to wembley to face ireland, one of our gang asked him if he wanted a cuppa and sure enough he sat with us in the caravan and insisted he had a cup without a handle and chatted for about 15 minutes about football, true story mate....minutes later steve highway passed and was made the same offer but sadly refused, lovely down to earth guy kevin and from that day on he was a bit of a hero for me..reluctantly.. :)


5.) 27 Nov 2018 22:01:29
Yeah Thierry Henry for me too in the PL era, he was just unbelievable.

{Ed025's Note - great player mate..


6.) 27 Nov 2018 22:02:50
My all time favourite player. Injuries and the emerging owen mucked up his career.
I firmly belive be would be in top 5 England goalscorers if it not for those factors.


7.) 27 Nov 2018 22:24:12
Ha, a Scouser with a perm working on the black stuff. Love it Ed.
To be fair to Keegan, he was a feather cut man whilst at the Reds, far cooler.
Agree with the Henry sentiments too, fastest footballer I’ve ever seen. Frightening.

{Ed025's Note - i remember him giving carra a 10 yard start over 15 yards in one run juicer...and still beat him by 4 yards, also played with a smile on his face and i like that mate..


8.) 27 Nov 2018 22:44:07
I'm only 24 so the best Prem striker I've ever seen regularly in their prime was probably Torres, Drogba or Aguero. Torres as the complete number 9, Drogba as the target man, and Aguero as the dynamic trickster. I can't really split them because they were all different players.

Suarez could have been up there with Aguero if he hadn't been such a POS and give it 3 more seasons and I reckon Salah will be right up there (in his new role) .

My favourite strikers to watch on highlight are Henry, Fowler, Bergkamp and Andy Cole but I barely remember any of them actually playing live.


9.) 27 Nov 2018 23:16:53
In terms of technique, Fowler at his peak was on par with Suarez. He mightn't have been as overtly flashy in terms of dribbling and speed, but his touch, movement and hold up play were just as good, and his striking was arguably better.

If he'd had a manager who was willing to work him and Owen into a proper partnership (which would've been easily do-able) when he was at his peak instead of Houllier, and maybe took slightly better care of himself when injured, I'd say he'd have gotten a lot more than the 26 caps he did.

Better than Shearer? It's kinda hard to argue with Shearers numbers, so I can't go that far. And they're not really the same type of player anyway. It's a little like asking who's better out of Dalglish and Rush.


10.) 27 Nov 2018 23:20:32
If only George best was able too play in the premiership cos he was so so so good his close control dribbling was unreal on some of the worst pitches u have ever seen, I know he was a man United player but hand on heart he up there with maradonna pele and the likes, check him out on YouTube if u haven't seen how good he is . Also his vulnerabilities make me love the guy even more he was a party animal but played like a man possessed.


11.) 28 Nov 2018 06:27:45
That's correct. The full afro size perm came in only when he moved to Hamburg. But Keegan is still my favorite all time LFC player. Got me hooked onto Liverpool.


12.) 28 Nov 2018 07:42:39
Agree with hailstones on Best, the 3rd best player of all time for me 👍.


13.) 28 Nov 2018 08:12:10
Also opposition tried too kick the crap out of George best an he just got up an skipped past everyone, I don't even think he wore shingaurds jus rolled down socks, true legend!


14.) 28 Nov 2018 15:26:44
I'm surprised no one else has called the OP on this so I will.

What "parts of Robbie Fowler" did you see, Zeppelin, and was a responsible adult in the room at all times?


15.) 28 Nov 2018 16:13:42
Agree with MK. For me the most complete striker I have seen in the PL era is Drogba. He had the lot and proved people wrong after a slow start with Chelsea. Movement, pace, power, two footed, good in the air, was quick and could hold the ball up. I hated that Chelsea bought him the summer after he bullied the LFC in europe when he was still playing for that french team, was it Marseilles? I can't remember.


16.) 28 Nov 2018 17:02:29
Drogba was a great player but he done a fair share of diving. Robbie Fowler was a fantastic player totally relying on his natural ability, by that I mean he did not put hours of extra training to improve. He demonstrated his fairness to against David Seaman asking the ref not to award him a penalty. I loved him.


 

 

 

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29 Apr 2019 13:26:41
I'm with Edd, he gets exposed by anyone with a bit of pace and power. His qualities playing RB is all offensive, his crossing is something a box to box right sided player can do as well.

I would have him compete with a 1st team RB and CM, i. e take Lallana's role. So essentially a back up CM and RB.

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23 Aug 2017 17:38:40
I find it amazing how Napoli hold on to their best players for such a long time. It can't be due a lack of interest. Are they hard to deal with?

Zeppelin

{Ed001's Note - yes.}


 

 

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05 Jul 2016 22:44:37
He didn't say his coming. He liked two pictures linking him to Liverpool.

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16 May 2016 18:03:03
Thanks for the reply Edd. Always appreciated.

Zeppelin

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


 

 

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16 May 2016 17:07:25
Edd a better option financially and that he is willing to move or better as in a better prospect ability wise?

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20 May 2019 21:31:19
Wow I didn't know that, that's extremely sad considering how highly he spoke of the club, I can only imagine how much that broke him. Do you feel he was right with his demands or was the board correct in not being held ransom? I remember Kevin K doing the same at Newcastle, at the time I saw it as petulance and a bit of a tantrum.

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07 May 2019 11:31:43
@Seosamh1990 I didn't asked if we'd sign a specific player I referenced a type of player. I. e. one that covers the front three or one that covers the CM and CAM and possible wing positions. I used the players as examples, "stylistically" maybe you should learn to read before the question before you expose yourself.

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07 May 2019 10:50:22
Who would you want to bring in for that forward cover Ed? you don't have to provide a name I know how superstitious you are. Are you thinking like a Julian Brant that covers multiple positions including CAM and CM or more of a Insigne that only really covers the wings?

Zeppelin

{Ed001's Note - more of a Brandt type.}


 

 

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03 May 2019 14:00:31
Not sure Laporte is underrated anymore, he certainly is one of the best CB's in the League, I think people have woken up to him over the last 6 months. Awesome list, thought Fabiański might make the list.

Zeppelin

{Ed001's Note - he was on the shortlist but missed the cut.}


 

 

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25 Apr 2019 08:41:49
Benny you bash optimistic people for trying to remain optimistic? aren't you doing the exact same thing as those calling you negative.

There is every possibility city drop points, you are not the football oracle you don't have to throw your toys out the cot coz people don't adopt your "realistic" attitude towards yesterday's result.

If everyone was rational we wouldn't get so emotional about 22 men kicking a ball into a net.

Zeppelin