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11 Aug 2017 23:00:01
Just wanted people's and eds opinion, it's being commonly said that couts is going to replace iniesta who is probably in his last full season and understandably, couts is scared that if Barcelona don't buy him now, they'll move to another player so won't want him next season, everyone crying out for one more season, who would accept £100 million with him staying on a season long loan? Highly unlikely I know but it was mentioned kind of in the bar tonight and was just curious of other people's thoughts.


1.) 11 Aug 2017 23:17:55
I would prefer more money now.
A season long loan is pointless, he'd have nothing to play for. If the player is not committed to LFC then they are no use to us.

2.) 11 Aug 2017 23:18:58
Why would Barcelona ever do that, the reason why coutinho is wary that it is now or never is because they want a player to come in now . buying now and loaning back would be moronic from barcelonas point of view, especially if your paying 100 million. My opinion anyway.

3.) 11 Aug 2017 23:44:10
Ck14,i wasn't suggesting for one second it was feasible, more just getting views, I'm in agreement with you Ron that I would rather let him go and play someone 100% dedicated in his position so it wasn't me saying I hope this happens, it was only because it was mentioned earlier I wanted to see if this was offered, who would take it?

4.) 11 Aug 2017 23:48:12
i want more.

5.) 12 Aug 2017 00:01:35
Co - the question was whether you would accept that kind of deal! The answer for me is yup yup and yup! laced with a little bit of hesitation tho knowing that it can be difficult to focus for a long period when you know you're dream move is coming.

6.) 12 Aug 2017 00:06:02
If Iniesta can do another season why sell Couts now and leave us short? . Let him go next year and we can find a suitable replacement in the meantime. Oh right it suits Barcelona to get him now and bed him in thus causing us hassle as Ed2 said Liverpool as known for a year he was wanting the men in suits should have had this sorted along time ago.

7.) 12 Aug 2017 01:21:24
After getting over the initial shock of pc's tr and having time to think. He should go. I know he will still perform for us if we force him to stay but I've always felt that if a player isn't 100% committed to the club and the player wants to leave it will have a detrimental effect on the club to make him stay. I don't want anyone here who doesn't want to be here. It's that simple really. No matter how good. For that reason sell him. And it's for that reason I think virgil van djike will definitely join and naby kieta too. We can't bank on that (as far as I'm aware) so in the mean time sign lanzini or luan who shouldn't break the bank and although not pc level (but who is! ) They could both do a job for us. I don't know much about luan, he has v good reputation and clips look brilliant but lanzini I feel could really surprise people, the guy is fantastic, very intelligent footballer, very skillful. I could see him scoring 14 assisting 7, absolutely. Then what have we lost? A hefty wage bill. Plus we have a lot of cash. I'm not suggesting lanzini is as good all round player as pc but like I say, he could certainly go 14 g 7 a

That said we don't fully know the pc situation. Papers are making it sound like war between lfc and coutinio family. We all know what women can be like when they don't get their way or have their sights set on something. I don't wanna right off pc yet but if he really has his heart set on the move so much so that he is falling out with people at the club then it's mad to make him stay. It could actually cost us a title, rather than get us closer to one.

8.) 12 Aug 2017 03:53:44
I think it should be that Liverpool takes a few days to explore whether there is a realistic chance of signing a top player we'd be happy with - perhaps Keita again for even more money, or Max Meyer, or someone PSG needs to sell (like Matuidi. ) and if we can still strengthen the squad before end of the window then let Couts go. Better for everyone's reputation

If we can't get a player with sufficient quality to strengthen midfield or at striker (so Firmino can drop deeper) then he stays and hope he understands the situation and knuckles down like Suarez did.

I'm worried that unlike Suarez who was turned down from joining Arsenal, Coutinho is being refused from his ultimate dream. Given how strongly he clearly feels now, we should not be blocking that move unless we really have zero choice.

9.) 12 Aug 2017 05:07:13
Matuidi to replace Coutinho?

10.) 12 Aug 2017 05:27:37
I habe been impressed by Lanzini a couple times. One match i saw i remember thinking this kid kinda termindato me of Coutinho. don't know why so many people say he is crap.

11.) 12 Aug 2017 05:27:56
Javier Pastore to replace Coutinho?

12.) 12 Aug 2017 06:48:02
Cobra, our wingers this season are going to be Mane and Salah so we don't need a like for like replacement, we just need a player that we think will strengthen the squad. If we got Matuidi, Hendo and Matuidi at base of midfield would be an awesome combo, freeing up Lallana and Gini to play further forward.

The point is we have the freedom to rethink how we shape the team, and we should be bringing in the best player that improves the overall squad. We still have the midfield combo of Hendo/ Gino/ Lallana that was so effective last year remember, so it's not even prescriptive a new recruit even needs to be in midfield IMO. Could potentially be a world class striker like Lewa and dropping Firmino into no.10 (I know never going to happen, just making a point) .

13.) 12 Aug 2017 07:12:46
It is a job. People change jobs. And as any other employer does LFC needs to consider if need someone to do that job now he is leaving. Personally I don't think playing position is the issue. The money could be used to bring in someone to have as big an impact in a different position.

14.) 12 Aug 2017 07:22:54
LFC will probably sell at 120m Euro now that he has handed in a request to leave, just hope LFC spend it wisely.

15.) 12 Aug 2017 07:44:29
LFC should do unto others. Barcelona got a lot for Neymar insist they spend it.

16.) 12 Aug 2017 08:06:25
I will be so happy when the transfer window shuts. I don't think I have been this unconcerned about a new season before. I'm usually buzzing but I'm all 'Meh' at the moment. LFC need to get it together in regards to how they do business.

17.) 12 Aug 2017 08:43:18
Unconcerned? Our star player wants out and will surely of caused unrest in the camp by handing in a transfer request a day before our first game, can is refusing to sign a contract, our top targets aren't for sale, we are still shockingly bad at the back, same defence as last year, Robertson will be a benchwarmer! For todays game, no coutinho, lallana, sturridge, clyne or lovren! Nothing to be concerned about hey?

18.) 12 Aug 2017 09:35:18
Liverpool should give Barcelona 48hrs to put £120 mill on the table in full payment. If they won't then there is no deal and he stays. I don't want to keep anyone who doesn't want to stay. but we must get the maximum we can in order to replace him.

19.) 12 Aug 2017 09:37:09
Do on to others?
So when we force the cash out of Barcelona you would like everyone else to do the same to us as we look for replacements?

20.) 12 Aug 2017 12:33:44
Should tell Barcelona you can have him at the end of the transfer window for 120mill and between now and then try and get someone in. I don't know if this is possible but I would tell them not to leak this to the press or the deal is off just so other clubs don't know we have 120 mill to spend so they can't inflate their prices. I personally want him gone handing in a TR 1 day before our first game and 4 days before a massive game for us. If he handed the TR in last month i would have wished him all the best but coming out with crap about doing it amicably is bullshit he wanted his 5 percent of the transfer fee.

21.) 12 Aug 2017 12:54:55
Unconcerned may have been the wrong word. I meant unconcerned as in, I don't even care the season is starting because pre season has been a let down. Maybe Depressed is a better expression.

22.) 12 Aug 2017 15:21:01
Neymar deal has put everyone's head in the clouds. Cannot believe people are calling 90 million a pitance (sorry about spelling) it's 0.1 % of Britain's debt to euro union! Coutinio is class but not the 2nd best player ever. Far from it.

That said, as we are directly affected by the neymar deal we too should see an inflated price. I like the idea of raiding PSG as they must have decent players who need selling.

23.) 12 Aug 2017 15:23:16
Easy to say "buy a top striker" but who? This could've been sorted out sooner and we could have seriously gone for lacazette. He looks great and I think we will live to regret not making it happen. Especially if arsenal finish above us.

24.) 12 Aug 2017 17:59:16
I think psg cm would be decent. I'm not completely sold on gini wijnaldum. I think he is a pussy. That's why he never scores away goals. He closed his eyes to head the ball today which led to watford equiliser. BEFORE his head made contact! I think goals against city and boro make us think he is better than he is. He's okay, part of me really likes him but I think liverpool lack metal. Imo we have 2 players with real steel in em and that's Hendo and Can. The fact I haven't added a cb in that list really highlights liverpool problem.

Successful lfc teams of the past have been full of "hard" players. Gerrard, hanman, mascherano, hypia, skrtel agger Ince souness mcman. The list goes on. People will say football has changed but chelsea were full of bruisers last year and people will always dislike getting hurt. Kieta znd van djike would certainly give us some edge. It should hurt to play liverpool.

25.) 12 Aug 2017 23:05:18
Red sky I don't want it, I fully expect everyone else to want that money cos they will and always have done.



08 Dec 2015 09:43:07
Hi eds, is someone having a laugh suggesting 18million for Rossi? Please tell me we're not interested.


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any interest from Liverpool.}

1.) 08 Dec 2015 13:45:30
Someone to compete with Sturridge. For time out injured, that is.

2.) 08 Dec 2015 14:10:25
Perhaps the strategy is if we have Pato, Rossi, Sturridge in the squad we might be able to get at least one of them on the pitch between them.

3.) 09 Dec 2015 00:00:17
Will prefer drogba or ibra or eto . at least they are fit most of time.

4.) 09 Dec 2015 01:36:52
To be fair zimbo, pato has played nearly 50 games this calendar year. Least I read that. Scored 25 or so goals, don't know the exact number.

5.) 09 Dec 2015 07:59:43
Is there any hope of Ings returning this January, i am in agreement with Klop's direction, stop buying finished products, start COACHING those you have on ground and moving only those who are unteachable.

{Ed001's Note - Ings is out for the season.}




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16 Sep 2017 10:35:19
Question for the eds if possible, I've seen in a lot of pre match press conferences when Klopp advises who will be the keeper in the upcoming game. Why does he release this information 24 hours earlier than the team lineup. We have three keepers. It's a toss up between migs and karius who will start each game (although my choice would be ward), migs and karius are two completely different keepers with different strengths and contrasting weaknesses, releasing that information early, do you not think would give the opposition an advantage as to how to set up their attack to best exploit the weaknesses of the chosen keeper?


{Ed001's Note - I have no idea why he does it.}

1.) 16 Sep 2017 11:01:45
Don't know why he does it either. However, a legendary coach (Carlos Bianchi of Argentina) once said that there are no true secrets in football. Bar a wrinkle here or there, everyone knows how everyone plays overall so it does not really matter what is said before the game or not. Just a thought.

2.) 16 Sep 2017 12:02:35
That's a very good point welshscouse. Why give any advantage to the opposition. Unless he's bluffing and stays with karius which I doubt.

{Ed002's Note - It doesn't give an advantage. The opposition don't care who he plays in goal.}

3.) 16 Sep 2017 13:41:18
Got to go with karius. Migs in goal is bad for my blood pressure!

4.) 16 Sep 2017 13:17:57
My point, exactly Ed02. There are NO secrets in football cos everyone knows how everyone players and we all know the lineups of the teams before games. During the game, is when the real world begins where a manager has to manage the game tactically and mentally along with the players, that's it and nothing more.



12 Sep 2017 16:37:18
Eds, am I missing something with the appeal? I know it's done and dusted now but I'm wondering on the decision behind the appeal, apparently we wasn't appealing the red card itself but appealing the amount of games stating it was excessive? Surely if we're not appealing the straight red, which automatically carries a three game ban, how can we appeal the length of the ban with that being the standard penalty? Just seems a complete waste of time?


{Ed001's Note - seemed it to me too.}

1.) 12 Sep 2017 17:12:25
Basically trying to look as though they are doing something knowing full well nothing would change.

2.) 12 Sep 2017 18:07:15
I agree Ron, it does make them look like they're doing something but surely wasn't worth the risk of them adding another one or two games to the ban which could have happened.

3.) 12 Sep 2017 18:26:50
It was just a smoke screen to look like we were actually doing something sensible whereas in the real scheme of things, it was a nothing-burger. Had us all tuning in, tho.

4.) 12 Sep 2017 18:49:24
Has an extra game ever been added on after an appeal? I recal many appeals, but don't ever remember the ban being lengthened.

{Ed001's Note - yes, which is why there are so few appeals.}



07 Sep 2017 16:16:12
Nice to see the photos of the squad in training today, everyone seems to be in good spirits, lots of smiles and laughs, seem to have a good group. Whatever has happened over the window, this is our team, our squad, our boys until at least January so if they can all pull on the shirt and play at 100% and give their all for the club, I hope we as supporters can also put the window behind us and support each and every member of our beloved squad 100% and leave the business side of things to those who are paid to deal with it. Onwards and upwards, We Are Liverpool.




05 Sep 2017 11:33:24
Visiting Sweden at present, looking for somewhere with a bit of atmosphere for the city match, heard the dubliner in Stockholm is kind of a Liverpool supporters up and I'm not far from Stockholm that weekend, can anyone confirm this please? Also, for the seville match, I will be staying close to linkoping (30 minutes away) by mjolby, anywhere close by showing that match? Thanks for any help.


1.) 05 Sep 2017 11:40:21
the dubliner is awesome. Go to their Facebook page. They have have all the matches listed. My brother worked their years ago, I spent many a great night having the craic there.

2.) 05 Sep 2017 11:59:46
Thanks for that BERGEN, do you know if it's child friendly for the matches, also, any advice on somewhere close to linkoping for the seville match from anyone that knows? Really appreciate your help.

3.) 05 Sep 2017 13:15:29
They should be grand, they have a full restaurant so a match in the afternoon shouldn't be an issue at all for smallies to be at. I'd ask the lads there if they know where to go outside of Stockholm for any matches they would be able to sort you out. They are a great group of people who work there, always look after visitors from the isles. Just remember that pints are expensive though. All drink is expensive in Sweden.

4.) 05 Sep 2017 14:03:41
Welsh if you're in linkoping i think there is only one bar that will show the games, nylegends. Not sure how good the craic will be as its predominantly a ice hockey city but its always full and the united games get a good showing of vocal fans. Can't help you for anywhere outside linkoping but take Bergen's advice and ask at the Dubliner as its definitely the bestbplace to watch games in Stockholm I know off and the crowd come from everywhere in Sweden.

5.) 05 Sep 2017 15:13:56
Thanks a lot for your responses, looks like it'll definitely be the dubliner for the city game and more than likely nylegends for seville game, appreciate your help reds.



01 Sep 2017 18:34:24
Quick question for Ed002 if you're about mate, not entirely Liverpool related but as it's to do with FFP it affects all of us. I know you have explained in depth numerous times but reading fifa to investigate PSG, I was under the impression that the books have to be more or less balanced over a three year period, obviously your knowledge is far greater than mine in this topic but surely if they are investigating on the basis of the neymar signing and the mbappe signing after the loan, their investigation is quite pointless now as they have three years to balance these signings? Apologies if I'm way off the mark and I've missed something, I know how busy you've all been recently so didn't want to waste your time with stupid questions, I just thought if that's the basis of their investigation, they're three years too early?

As always, thanks for your time and all the work all eds put in.


{Ed002's Note - No the books are presented at the end of each season. The three years relates to a rolling three year period during which income provided by the owners can be provided in addition to allowable income the club generates. So the three years is (2015, 2016, 2017), then (2016, 2017, 2018) then (2017, 2018, 2019) etc.. What that means is that a club started this season all square with previous years and go up to the €30M allowed this summer then in 2018 and 2019 they cannot have a deficit.}

The only investigation that FIFA are involved with right now is regarding Barcelona's refusal to pay a bonus fee that is supposedly due to Neymar's father. It was this that the Spanish FA were talking about when the transfer was happening and it is nothing to do with FFP. In terms of the transfer, it is the FFP accounts that FIFA will look to - but they are not due untl next June. By then PSG need to show enough additional income to cover the transfer and the overall wages at the club (which may be more of an issue and they did not sell as many as hoped for this summer). They will look for assured sales by June 30 next summer to eventually avoid possible sanctions (the same was true with a number of sides this year (e.g. Inter and Roma who had the season before been fined and warned for breaches of FFP (as had a number of other sides).

So for PSG the transfer fee problem is going to be eased by additional income - a big boost in the shirt deal is likely, other related commercial deals - and sales. The wages problem is far harder to fix and no doubt they will be worried about that. Mbappe means they go through these hoops again next summer.}

1.) 01 Sep 2017 19:07:44
Ed would it be safe to say psg will be looking to ship out a few more in January. Or even today? Is the Spanish window the last major one to close?

{Ed002's Note - The Spanish window is the last major one to close in Europe. They will look to sell in January if they can.}

2.) 01 Sep 2017 19:31:37
Thanks Ed, sly sports were reporting that Fifa are looking into it now, that's why I thought I'd ask, much clearer now, cheers mate.




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11 Aug 2017 23:44:10
Ck14,i wasn't suggesting for one second it was feasible, more just getting views, I'm in agreement with you Ron that I would rather let him go and play someone 100% dedicated in his position so it wasn't me saying I hope this happens, it was only because it was mentioned earlier I wanted to see if this was offered, who would take it?




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I really hope he is not going to be rushed back early to try and relieve some pressure from Brendan on the hope he has a stormer and scores the winner, because if he is rushed back early, it will be more than likely he will pick up an injury in the warm up and be out until after christmas





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16 Sep 2017 14:50:48
Glad you're OK Matt, couldn't have been nice.




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13 Sep 2017 16:56:36
That would be some hybrid Ron, someone who knows he's bad in goal and has the stats to prove it 😉 only kidding MK, I enjoy your posts and your opinions most of the time.




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12 Sep 2017 22:44:18
He was probably being sarcastic because Barcelona played tonight and all the Spanish media were adamant coutinho was signing for Barcelona.




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12 Sep 2017 18:07:15
I agree Ron, it does make them look like they're doing something but surely wasn't worth the risk of them adding another one or two games to the ban which could have happened.




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12 Sep 2017 14:24:31
Hi Ed001,i read the appeal goes through today, do you know roughly what time we can expect a decision, have a bad feeling may get extra game, I personally feel it was 50/ 50 but think it is a ridiculous decision to appeal it, should have just moved on.


{Ed001's Note - no sorry no idea.}