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11 Aug 2017 23:00:01
Just wanted people's and eds opinion, it's being commonly said that couts is going to replace iniesta who is probably in his last full season and understandably, couts is scared that if Barcelona don't buy him now, they'll move to another player so won't want him next season, everyone crying out for one more season, who would accept £100 million with him staying on a season long loan? Highly unlikely I know but it was mentioned kind of in the bar tonight and was just curious of other people's thoughts.

WelshScouse

1.) 11 Aug 2017 23:17:55
I would prefer more money now.
A season long loan is pointless, he'd have nothing to play for. If the player is not committed to LFC then they are no use to us.


2.) 11 Aug 2017 23:18:58
Why would Barcelona ever do that, the reason why coutinho is wary that it is now or never is because they want a player to come in now . buying now and loaning back would be moronic from barcelonas point of view, especially if your paying 100 million. My opinion anyway.


3.) 11 Aug 2017 23:44:10
Ck14,i wasn't suggesting for one second it was feasible, more just getting views, I'm in agreement with you Ron that I would rather let him go and play someone 100% dedicated in his position so it wasn't me saying I hope this happens, it was only because it was mentioned earlier I wanted to see if this was offered, who would take it?


4.) 11 Aug 2017 23:48:12
i want more.


5.) 12 Aug 2017 00:01:35
Co - the question was whether you would accept that kind of deal! The answer for me is yup yup and yup! laced with a little bit of hesitation tho knowing that it can be difficult to focus for a long period when you know you're dream move is coming.


6.) 12 Aug 2017 00:06:02
If Iniesta can do another season why sell Couts now and leave us short? . Let him go next year and we can find a suitable replacement in the meantime. Oh right it suits Barcelona to get him now and bed him in thus causing us hassle as Ed2 said Liverpool as known for a year he was wanting the men in suits should have had this sorted along time ago.


7.) 12 Aug 2017 01:21:24
After getting over the initial shock of pc's tr and having time to think. He should go. I know he will still perform for us if we force him to stay but I've always felt that if a player isn't 100% committed to the club and the player wants to leave it will have a detrimental effect on the club to make him stay. I don't want anyone here who doesn't want to be here. It's that simple really. No matter how good. For that reason sell him. And it's for that reason I think virgil van djike will definitely join and naby kieta too. We can't bank on that (as far as I'm aware) so in the mean time sign lanzini or luan who shouldn't break the bank and although not pc level (but who is! ) They could both do a job for us. I don't know much about luan, he has v good reputation and clips look brilliant but lanzini I feel could really surprise people, the guy is fantastic, very intelligent footballer, very skillful. I could see him scoring 14 assisting 7, absolutely. Then what have we lost? A hefty wage bill. Plus we have a lot of cash. I'm not suggesting lanzini is as good all round player as pc but like I say, he could certainly go 14 g 7 a

That said we don't fully know the pc situation. Papers are making it sound like war between lfc and coutinio family. We all know what women can be like when they don't get their way or have their sights set on something. I don't wanna right off pc yet but if he really has his heart set on the move so much so that he is falling out with people at the club then it's mad to make him stay. It could actually cost us a title, rather than get us closer to one.


8.) 12 Aug 2017 03:53:44
I think it should be that Liverpool takes a few days to explore whether there is a realistic chance of signing a top player we'd be happy with - perhaps Keita again for even more money, or Max Meyer, or someone PSG needs to sell (like Matuidi. ) and if we can still strengthen the squad before end of the window then let Couts go. Better for everyone's reputation

If we can't get a player with sufficient quality to strengthen midfield or at striker (so Firmino can drop deeper) then he stays and hope he understands the situation and knuckles down like Suarez did.

I'm worried that unlike Suarez who was turned down from joining Arsenal, Coutinho is being refused from his ultimate dream. Given how strongly he clearly feels now, we should not be blocking that move unless we really have zero choice.


9.) 12 Aug 2017 05:07:13
Matuidi to replace Coutinho?


10.) 12 Aug 2017 05:27:37
I habe been impressed by Lanzini a couple times. One match i saw i remember thinking this kid kinda termindato me of Coutinho. don't know why so many people say he is crap.


11.) 12 Aug 2017 05:27:56
Javier Pastore to replace Coutinho?


12.) 12 Aug 2017 06:48:02
Cobra, our wingers this season are going to be Mane and Salah so we don't need a like for like replacement, we just need a player that we think will strengthen the squad. If we got Matuidi, Hendo and Matuidi at base of midfield would be an awesome combo, freeing up Lallana and Gini to play further forward.

The point is we have the freedom to rethink how we shape the team, and we should be bringing in the best player that improves the overall squad. We still have the midfield combo of Hendo/ Gino/ Lallana that was so effective last year remember, so it's not even prescriptive a new recruit even needs to be in midfield IMO. Could potentially be a world class striker like Lewa and dropping Firmino into no.10 (I know never going to happen, just making a point) .


13.) 12 Aug 2017 07:12:46
It is a job. People change jobs. And as any other employer does LFC needs to consider if need someone to do that job now he is leaving. Personally I don't think playing position is the issue. The money could be used to bring in someone to have as big an impact in a different position.


14.) 12 Aug 2017 07:22:54
LFC will probably sell at 120m Euro now that he has handed in a request to leave, just hope LFC spend it wisely.


15.) 12 Aug 2017 07:44:29
LFC should do unto others. Barcelona got a lot for Neymar insist they spend it.


16.) 12 Aug 2017 08:06:25
I will be so happy when the transfer window shuts. I don't think I have been this unconcerned about a new season before. I'm usually buzzing but I'm all 'Meh' at the moment. LFC need to get it together in regards to how they do business.


17.) 12 Aug 2017 08:43:18
Unconcerned? Our star player wants out and will surely of caused unrest in the camp by handing in a transfer request a day before our first game, can is refusing to sign a contract, our top targets aren't for sale, we are still shockingly bad at the back, same defence as last year, Robertson will be a benchwarmer! For todays game, no coutinho, lallana, sturridge, clyne or lovren! Nothing to be concerned about hey?


18.) 12 Aug 2017 09:35:18
Liverpool should give Barcelona 48hrs to put £120 mill on the table in full payment. If they won't then there is no deal and he stays. I don't want to keep anyone who doesn't want to stay. but we must get the maximum we can in order to replace him.


19.) 12 Aug 2017 09:37:09
Do on to others?
So when we force the cash out of Barcelona you would like everyone else to do the same to us as we look for replacements?


20.) 12 Aug 2017 12:33:44
Should tell Barcelona you can have him at the end of the transfer window for 120mill and between now and then try and get someone in. I don't know if this is possible but I would tell them not to leak this to the press or the deal is off just so other clubs don't know we have 120 mill to spend so they can't inflate their prices. I personally want him gone handing in a TR 1 day before our first game and 4 days before a massive game for us. If he handed the TR in last month i would have wished him all the best but coming out with crap about doing it amicably is bullshit he wanted his 5 percent of the transfer fee.


21.) 12 Aug 2017 12:54:55
Unconcerned may have been the wrong word. I meant unconcerned as in, I don't even care the season is starting because pre season has been a let down. Maybe Depressed is a better expression.


22.) 12 Aug 2017 15:21:01
Neymar deal has put everyone's head in the clouds. Cannot believe people are calling 90 million a pitance (sorry about spelling) it's 0.1 % of Britain's debt to euro union! Coutinio is class but not the 2nd best player ever. Far from it.

That said, as we are directly affected by the neymar deal we too should see an inflated price. I like the idea of raiding PSG as they must have decent players who need selling.


23.) 12 Aug 2017 15:23:16
Easy to say "buy a top striker" but who? This could've been sorted out sooner and we could have seriously gone for lacazette. He looks great and I think we will live to regret not making it happen. Especially if arsenal finish above us.


24.) 12 Aug 2017 17:59:16
I think psg cm would be decent. I'm not completely sold on gini wijnaldum. I think he is a pussy. That's why he never scores away goals. He closed his eyes to head the ball today which led to watford equiliser. BEFORE his head made contact! I think goals against city and boro make us think he is better than he is. He's okay, part of me really likes him but I think liverpool lack metal. Imo we have 2 players with real steel in em and that's Hendo and Can. The fact I haven't added a cb in that list really highlights liverpool problem.

Successful lfc teams of the past have been full of "hard" players. Gerrard, hanman, mascherano, hypia, skrtel agger Ince souness mcman. The list goes on. People will say football has changed but chelsea were full of bruisers last year and people will always dislike getting hurt. Kieta znd van djike would certainly give us some edge. It should hurt to play liverpool.


25.) 12 Aug 2017 23:05:18
Red sky I don't want it, I fully expect everyone else to want that money cos they will and always have done.


 

 

08 Dec 2015 09:43:07
Hi eds, is someone having a laugh suggesting 18million for Rossi? Please tell me we're not interested.

WelshScouse

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any interest from Liverpool.}


1.) 08 Dec 2015 13:45:30
Someone to compete with Sturridge. For time out injured, that is.


2.) 08 Dec 2015 14:10:25
Perhaps the strategy is if we have Pato, Rossi, Sturridge in the squad we might be able to get at least one of them on the pitch between them.


3.) 09 Dec 2015 00:00:17
Will prefer drogba or ibra or eto . at least they are fit most of time.


4.) 09 Dec 2015 01:36:52
To be fair zimbo, pato has played nearly 50 games this calendar year. Least I read that. Scored 25 or so goals, don't know the exact number.


5.) 09 Dec 2015 07:59:43
Is there any hope of Ings returning this January, i am in agreement with Klop's direction, stop buying finished products, start COACHING those you have on ground and moving only those who are unteachable.

{Ed001's Note - Ings is out for the season.}


 

 

 

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14 Nov 2017 12:29:04
Been reading should Can start from now on since he's going to be moving and also for last 6 months why should we sell coutinho, we should make him honour his contract, etc, the two views contradict each other. Can should start every game IF he is the best option. Unlike Coutinho, he has honoured the contract he has signed, with his future undecided he still gives 100% in every game, yes it's a shame he hasn't signed a new contract but I personally will wish him all the best and hope he goes on to have a successful career.

WelshScouse

1.) 14 Nov 2017 13:16:28
Magnificently Post. You know the dumbest thing is to sell when you know he is the best solution. I just can’t believe we couldn’t convince him! Another 6 months of regular football in No.6 position and you are looking at a wonderful midifelder.


2.) 14 Nov 2017 13:47:50
100% agree on this. He’s been our best cm this season.


3.) 14 Nov 2017 13:47:51
Agreed Welsh, either players leaving shouldn't see the field or we should maximize the resources that we have - simple as.


4.) 14 Nov 2017 15:48:45
He is great, I am gutted he ain't signed a new contract. We have to sell him instead of letting him go on a free.

We will see quite a different team next year with Can and Coutinio gone. Klopp will definitely need to find some midfielders. we will have plenty of money. I think we will see a lot of signings in the summer. gk, cb, cb, mf amf and even a striker. it will be totally klopp's team then. I don't think we will do much in the January unless Can and coutinio go then. I don't think coutinio will ever play for lfc again.


 

 

06 Nov 2017 12:35:24
Hi Eds, quick question, players on loan, can they be recalled at any time without penalty, not so much looking at Liverpool players but with Leicester, Everton and now West Ham replacing managers mid way through the season, if the new manager is a strong believer of one or two players the previous manager wasn't, could they be recalled at no cost and put straight into the team?

WelshScouse

{Ed001's Note - no. They can only be recalled in a transfer window, for one. Secondly it depends on the deal agreed, you have to have a recall agreement in the deal. Usually there is a compensation figure to be paid if you do recall a player.}


1.) 06 Nov 2017 12:49:05
I thought there would be some sort of compensation but wasn't aware could only be done during transfer window, thanks for the info ed.

{Ed001's Note - the rules changed recently, I can't remember whether it was for this season or last season, about the recalls only during transfer windows.}


2.) 06 Nov 2017 13:28:42
I remember us recalling jay spearing when lucas was out innured.


 

 

27 Oct 2017 07:17:08
I'm flying in from Malta on Monday to spend a week with my sons, I'm in the middle of a messy custody battle and have always promised to take them to an field and would love to take them to the maribor match, has anyone got any advice on the easiest, best ways to get tickets if at all possible please, I don't have stubs from previous matches or anything like that, any help and advice is hugely appreciated.

WelshScouse

1.) 27 Oct 2017 12:43:12
Check out a facebook group called Liverpool tickets buy/ sell.

Send them a private message (blue button on their page)

Genuine lads and you collect tickets right next to the ground (Anfield road end)

Took my lad to a few games through them including the recent 4-0 game vs Arsenal. Paid £80 per ticket.

Enjoy 👍.


2.) 27 Oct 2017 17:59:53
Would someone be my dad for the day and take me to my first liverpool match.


3.) 27 Oct 2017 18:46:10
Welsh mate aside from the football I just want to wish you and your children the very best of luck for all your futures ahead.


4.) 27 Oct 2017 23:22:27
Your a gent Barry, I can only echo what he said Welsh, hope you get the tickets and have a great time with your sons mate.


5.) 28 Oct 2017 07:01:18
Thanks for the help guys and thanks for the good wishes, means a lot.

{Ed001's Note - good luck WS and I hope you all have a great time.}


 

 

22 Oct 2017 21:10:56
I'm as angry and frustrated as everyone else is, certain player, weaknesses that weren't addresses etc etc, but I always try to put a bit of perspective on things before spitting my dummy out
LFC has been my life from the age of 3,im now 36, LFC was there was my dad was, LFC was there when he left, LFC was there when he died, LFC was there when I married, LFC was there when my kids were born, LFC was there through my divorce 16 years later, LFC has been there through my custody battle, LFC has been the stability in my life, whether we're winning or losing, LFC has always been a welcome release, LFC can make you pull your hair out at times but LFC is my life and LFC will still be there, long after I'm gone, hopefully having the same impact on other people's lives, yes I'm disappointed this evening but LFC will still be there whenever I need it. YNWA.

WelshScouse

1.) 22 Oct 2017 21:37:26
I’m 45 mate and been watching LFC for over 35 years.
This defence has to be one of the worst I’ve seen.
A fair few saying how much Moreno has improved? Sorry I just don’t see it.


2.) 22 Oct 2017 22:57:24
I agree, Drogie. That myth is just utter thoughtless nonsense. He is as awful as he's always been, and Klopp is quickly turning into a joke.


3.) 22 Oct 2017 21:53:04
I am not as old as you two so my life revolves around “ Next year is our year “ and I am getting bored of this crap! Every other team are achieving something or the other except us who have only excuses to show! I have learned enough of the game watching us play lol!
I don’t think my kids will chose liveroool coz by that time we wouldn’t be even in the recent history book! I am certain to become an Ed025 lol! It’s all karma we used to mock and curse others which comes back and bite us hard! Another trophy less season Jesus, I live around all type football fans and they ll eat me alive😫😫😫😫.

{Ed025's Note - you cant decide who you support harry, in liverpool you are born either blue or red mate and you stick with it through thick and thin, for my sins im a blue and that will never change and im sure your the same..


4.) 22 Oct 2017 22:18:48
If you don't see that Moreno has been playing well this season you should start watching shuffleboard or something.

{Ed025's Note - he has done well....for moreno stoupid, your level of expectation is obviously very low mate..


5.) 22 Oct 2017 22:36:44
And LFC ruin your Sunday and Monday and Tuesday. feel bit better Wednesday. looking forward to Saturday on Thursday. all pumped on Friday. then they ruin my Saturday and the process starts again. i love supporting Liverpool.

{Ed025's Note - bloody hell ben...you want to try being an evertonian mate..


6.) 22 Oct 2017 23:36:46
It's a race to the bottom at this point, Ed25.

{Ed025's Note - your right bingo, i just want to go back to the 80,s when we ruled the country and everyone was jealous of us mate..is that too much to ask?..


7.) 22 Oct 2017 23:56:51
How is it thoughtless nonsense lowell. You sound like a person talking about a game they didn't even watch. Or saw the highlights on motd. Let me tell you, I was moreno biggest detractor, I was gutted we didn't sell him to napoli. After eufa cup final I wanted to kill him. But, he has been industrious this season. His crossing looks really dangerous. His overlapping is excellent. He is fast, with a good first touch and he can pass the ball. He hasn't made endless mistakes like he once did.

It is moreno knocking coz his previous form has warranted it. It's easy to knock him as it's been done so much in the past. If you had the first clue about football or watched the game today you would know that there are plenty of other players more deserved of stick today than moreno. So why single the lad out when he seems to have turned a corner in his lfc career.


8.) 23 Oct 2017 00:05:19
If Everton go down I post a picture of me in an Everton shirt. No way. I think de boer might be a good manager for Everton. He wants to play and Everton have the players to do so.


9.) 23 Oct 2017 01:15:39
Why is moreno being singled out? He was far from our worst player. One of our best tbf, not saying much we were second best. It is thoughtless nonsense lowel. There are plenty of players who should be singled out but am isn't one of them. You're knocking him coz it's easy and you think everyone will agree with you. But he isn't the same player who warranted that stick last year.

Sooooo last year!


 

 

01 Oct 2017 05:48:14
Just read Ojo has dislocated his shoulder and is out for three months, wish him a speedy recovery.

Also, thoughts go out to the Lille fans who were injured in the stadium collapse. Hope there are no serious injuries or worse. YNWA.

WelshScouse

 

 

 

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11 Aug 2017 23:44:10
Ck14,i wasn't suggesting for one second it was feasible, more just getting views, I'm in agreement with you Ron that I would rather let him go and play someone 100% dedicated in his position so it wasn't me saying I hope this happens, it was only because it was mentioned earlier I wanted to see if this was offered, who would take it?

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I really hope he is not going to be rushed back early to try and relieve some pressure from Brendan on the hope he has a stormer and scores the winner, because if he is rushed back early, it will be more than likely he will pick up an injury in the warm up and be out until after christmas

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06 Nov 2017 12:54:54
Without Firmino's movement to create space, which other out and out strikers may not offer, mane and salah would score a lot less goals, firmino is essential to the way we play and you see how much we lose when mane or salah have been unavailable and he's put on the wing to allow a striker, in any other position, firmino is a lot less effective so I believe the balance we have with the front three is 100% correct for now.

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06 Nov 2017 12:49:05
I thought there would be some sort of compensation but wasn't aware could only be done during transfer window, thanks for the info ed.

WelshScouse

{Ed001's Note - the rules changed recently, I can't remember whether it was for this season or last season, about the recalls only during transfer windows.}


 

 

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30 Oct 2017 22:29:00
So ed, in your opinion, granted skill levels may not be as high but would you put the Mee as the Hypia and and Tarkowski as the Henchoz, both integral but Tarkowski wouldn't have the impact he does without Mee?

WelshScouse

{Ed001's Note - very much so. Mee makes him better.}


 

 

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28 Oct 2017 07:01:18
Thanks for the help guys and thanks for the good wishes, means a lot.

WelshScouse

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26 Sep 2017 17:57:32
Just watched it then and it really is heartwarming. To see wijnaldum face as well when he was giving him a cuddle when they were having their photo taken, you saw how much it made the young lads dream come true but also how humbling and real it is to the player or manager making a difference. It also puts a lot into perspective with people like mourinho and ferguson who we love to hate but they've been doing these things for decades. All people who do this off their own back I have ultimate respect for.

And finally, just the young lads excitement about being a Liverpool fan, no hatred, just love for the badge, I guess we can all learn something from him in that respect.

You'll never walk alone.

WelshScouse