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11 Aug 2017 23:00:01
Just wanted people's and eds opinion, it's being commonly said that couts is going to replace iniesta who is probably in his last full season and understandably, couts is scared that if Barcelona don't buy him now, they'll move to another player so won't want him next season, everyone crying out for one more season, who would accept £100 million with him staying on a season long loan? Highly unlikely I know but it was mentioned kind of in the bar tonight and was just curious of other people's thoughts.

WelshScouse

1.) 11 Aug 2017 23:17:55
I would prefer more money now.
A season long loan is pointless, he'd have nothing to play for. If the player is not committed to LFC then they are no use to us.


2.) 11 Aug 2017 23:18:58
Why would Barcelona ever do that, the reason why coutinho is wary that it is now or never is because they want a player to come in now . buying now and loaning back would be moronic from barcelonas point of view, especially if your paying 100 million. My opinion anyway.


3.) 11 Aug 2017 23:44:10
Ck14,i wasn't suggesting for one second it was feasible, more just getting views, I'm in agreement with you Ron that I would rather let him go and play someone 100% dedicated in his position so it wasn't me saying I hope this happens, it was only because it was mentioned earlier I wanted to see if this was offered, who would take it?


4.) 11 Aug 2017 23:48:12
i want more.


5.) 12 Aug 2017 00:01:35
Co - the question was whether you would accept that kind of deal! The answer for me is yup yup and yup! laced with a little bit of hesitation tho knowing that it can be difficult to focus for a long period when you know you're dream move is coming.


6.) 12 Aug 2017 00:06:02
If Iniesta can do another season why sell Couts now and leave us short? . Let him go next year and we can find a suitable replacement in the meantime. Oh right it suits Barcelona to get him now and bed him in thus causing us hassle as Ed2 said Liverpool as known for a year he was wanting the men in suits should have had this sorted along time ago.


7.) 12 Aug 2017 01:21:24
After getting over the initial shock of pc's tr and having time to think. He should go. I know he will still perform for us if we force him to stay but I've always felt that if a player isn't 100% committed to the club and the player wants to leave it will have a detrimental effect on the club to make him stay. I don't want anyone here who doesn't want to be here. It's that simple really. No matter how good. For that reason sell him. And it's for that reason I think virgil van djike will definitely join and naby kieta too. We can't bank on that (as far as I'm aware) so in the mean time sign lanzini or luan who shouldn't break the bank and although not pc level (but who is! ) They could both do a job for us. I don't know much about luan, he has v good reputation and clips look brilliant but lanzini I feel could really surprise people, the guy is fantastic, very intelligent footballer, very skillful. I could see him scoring 14 assisting 7, absolutely. Then what have we lost? A hefty wage bill. Plus we have a lot of cash. I'm not suggesting lanzini is as good all round player as pc but like I say, he could certainly go 14 g 7 a

That said we don't fully know the pc situation. Papers are making it sound like war between lfc and coutinio family. We all know what women can be like when they don't get their way or have their sights set on something. I don't wanna right off pc yet but if he really has his heart set on the move so much so that he is falling out with people at the club then it's mad to make him stay. It could actually cost us a title, rather than get us closer to one.


8.) 12 Aug 2017 03:53:44
I think it should be that Liverpool takes a few days to explore whether there is a realistic chance of signing a top player we'd be happy with - perhaps Keita again for even more money, or Max Meyer, or someone PSG needs to sell (like Matuidi. ) and if we can still strengthen the squad before end of the window then let Couts go. Better for everyone's reputation

If we can't get a player with sufficient quality to strengthen midfield or at striker (so Firmino can drop deeper) then he stays and hope he understands the situation and knuckles down like Suarez did.

I'm worried that unlike Suarez who was turned down from joining Arsenal, Coutinho is being refused from his ultimate dream. Given how strongly he clearly feels now, we should not be blocking that move unless we really have zero choice.


9.) 12 Aug 2017 05:07:13
Matuidi to replace Coutinho?


10.) 12 Aug 2017 05:27:37
I habe been impressed by Lanzini a couple times. One match i saw i remember thinking this kid kinda termindato me of Coutinho. don't know why so many people say he is crap.


11.) 12 Aug 2017 05:27:56
Javier Pastore to replace Coutinho?


12.) 12 Aug 2017 06:48:02
Cobra, our wingers this season are going to be Mane and Salah so we don't need a like for like replacement, we just need a player that we think will strengthen the squad. If we got Matuidi, Hendo and Matuidi at base of midfield would be an awesome combo, freeing up Lallana and Gini to play further forward.

The point is we have the freedom to rethink how we shape the team, and we should be bringing in the best player that improves the overall squad. We still have the midfield combo of Hendo/ Gino/ Lallana that was so effective last year remember, so it's not even prescriptive a new recruit even needs to be in midfield IMO. Could potentially be a world class striker like Lewa and dropping Firmino into no.10 (I know never going to happen, just making a point) .


13.) 12 Aug 2017 07:12:46
It is a job. People change jobs. And as any other employer does LFC needs to consider if need someone to do that job now he is leaving. Personally I don't think playing position is the issue. The money could be used to bring in someone to have as big an impact in a different position.


14.) 12 Aug 2017 07:22:54
LFC will probably sell at 120m Euro now that he has handed in a request to leave, just hope LFC spend it wisely.


15.) 12 Aug 2017 07:44:29
LFC should do unto others. Barcelona got a lot for Neymar insist they spend it.


16.) 12 Aug 2017 08:06:25
I will be so happy when the transfer window shuts. I don't think I have been this unconcerned about a new season before. I'm usually buzzing but I'm all 'Meh' at the moment. LFC need to get it together in regards to how they do business.


17.) 12 Aug 2017 08:43:18
Unconcerned? Our star player wants out and will surely of caused unrest in the camp by handing in a transfer request a day before our first game, can is refusing to sign a contract, our top targets aren't for sale, we are still shockingly bad at the back, same defence as last year, Robertson will be a benchwarmer! For todays game, no coutinho, lallana, sturridge, clyne or lovren! Nothing to be concerned about hey?


18.) 12 Aug 2017 09:35:18
Liverpool should give Barcelona 48hrs to put £120 mill on the table in full payment. If they won't then there is no deal and he stays. I don't want to keep anyone who doesn't want to stay. but we must get the maximum we can in order to replace him.


19.) 12 Aug 2017 09:37:09
Do on to others?
So when we force the cash out of Barcelona you would like everyone else to do the same to us as we look for replacements?


20.) 12 Aug 2017 12:33:44
Should tell Barcelona you can have him at the end of the transfer window for 120mill and between now and then try and get someone in. I don't know if this is possible but I would tell them not to leak this to the press or the deal is off just so other clubs don't know we have 120 mill to spend so they can't inflate their prices. I personally want him gone handing in a TR 1 day before our first game and 4 days before a massive game for us. If he handed the TR in last month i would have wished him all the best but coming out with crap about doing it amicably is bullshit he wanted his 5 percent of the transfer fee.


21.) 12 Aug 2017 12:54:55
Unconcerned may have been the wrong word. I meant unconcerned as in, I don't even care the season is starting because pre season has been a let down. Maybe Depressed is a better expression.


22.) 12 Aug 2017 15:21:01
Neymar deal has put everyone's head in the clouds. Cannot believe people are calling 90 million a pitance (sorry about spelling) it's 0.1 % of Britain's debt to euro union! Coutinio is class but not the 2nd best player ever. Far from it.

That said, as we are directly affected by the neymar deal we too should see an inflated price. I like the idea of raiding PSG as they must have decent players who need selling.


23.) 12 Aug 2017 15:23:16
Easy to say "buy a top striker" but who? This could've been sorted out sooner and we could have seriously gone for lacazette. He looks great and I think we will live to regret not making it happen. Especially if arsenal finish above us.


24.) 12 Aug 2017 17:59:16
I think psg cm would be decent. I'm not completely sold on gini wijnaldum. I think he is a pussy. That's why he never scores away goals. He closed his eyes to head the ball today which led to watford equiliser. BEFORE his head made contact! I think goals against city and boro make us think he is better than he is. He's okay, part of me really likes him but I think liverpool lack metal. Imo we have 2 players with real steel in em and that's Hendo and Can. The fact I haven't added a cb in that list really highlights liverpool problem.

Successful lfc teams of the past have been full of "hard" players. Gerrard, hanman, mascherano, hypia, skrtel agger Ince souness mcman. The list goes on. People will say football has changed but chelsea were full of bruisers last year and people will always dislike getting hurt. Kieta znd van djike would certainly give us some edge. It should hurt to play liverpool.


25.) 12 Aug 2017 23:05:18
Red sky I don't want it, I fully expect everyone else to want that money cos they will and always have done.


 

 

08 Dec 2015 09:43:07
Hi eds, is someone having a laugh suggesting 18million for Rossi? Please tell me we're not interested.

WelshScouse

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any interest from Liverpool.}


1.) 08 Dec 2015 13:45:30
Someone to compete with Sturridge. For time out injured, that is.


2.) 08 Dec 2015 14:10:25
Perhaps the strategy is if we have Pato, Rossi, Sturridge in the squad we might be able to get at least one of them on the pitch between them.


3.) 09 Dec 2015 00:00:17
Will prefer drogba or ibra or eto . at least they are fit most of time.


4.) 09 Dec 2015 01:36:52
To be fair zimbo, pato has played nearly 50 games this calendar year. Least I read that. Scored 25 or so goals, don't know the exact number.


5.) 09 Dec 2015 07:59:43
Is there any hope of Ings returning this January, i am in agreement with Klop's direction, stop buying finished products, start COACHING those you have on ground and moving only those who are unteachable.

{Ed001's Note - Ings is out for the season.}


 

 

 

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18 Aug 2018 10:00:57
Question for Ed01 if you have the time mate. It's been said a few times on here that the signing of Mane was a risk due to serious bad attitude, problematic in the dressing room etc etc and now seems to be the example that all players with bad attitude we are linked with will be fine because look what Klopp done with Mane.

My question is what was the issues with Mane. Unless he's performed a miraculous turnaround, every interview I've seen him in, the at home with Mane video he did, the relationship he seems to have with players and staff alike, he has always crossed me as a quiet, humble professional that seems miles away from the stigma he had when joining us. Has he changed his ways that much or was the label he had when signing for Liverpool a bit unjust?

Not disbelieving anything anyone has said but it's more out of curiosity as he certainly doesn't come across as a problem player now. Thanks for all your hard work as always.

WelshScouse

{Ed001's Note - there were a couple of issues with him. One was the going on strike bad attitude when he decided he wanted a move. The other was that his performances started well and then he would just fade out unless he was facing a big team, then he would play well. If he was facing someone like Man Utd, he would be top class, but teams like say Fulham he would just not bother turning up in reality.}


1.) 18 Aug 2018 11:08:55
Is it a case of wouldn’t bother, or couldn’t get himself fired up for?
Seems like Liverpool all over, storm all over the top sides then be slow and lethargic against the smaller sides.

{Ed001's Note - felt like a bit of both watching him.}


2.) 18 Aug 2018 22:34:13
There was nobody to replace him at Southampton, if he had a string of poor games at Liverpool he would be out of the team so I guess that would keep you on your toes on it’s own.


 

 

09 Aug 2018 18:10:49
So I signed up with a Twitter account in January just to have a look at transfer news etc, I closed it today after coming across a post that absolutely slated macca and Ed02 because their predictions months ago didn't come off and a lot of snidey dicks in the comments section as well, message to macca, we always appreciate any of your knowledge on these pages and are aware things and targets can change, message to all eds, all your hard work and information is massively appreciated and reading some of the crap earlier gives me a small idea of how many posts you must have to delete on here. I've been on this site for over ten years and will continue to take my transfer rumours from here. Thanks again.

WelshScouse

1.) 09 Aug 2018 18:30:49
I am sure macca said he doesn't have twitter but the persons need to stop the bullying of edd 2 and macca/ fake macca.

{Ed002's Note - And I never made any predictions - I explained where there was interest.}


2.) 09 Aug 2018 19:19:13
They were initially right but situations change rapidly and i think Roma dropping Becker's price changed our targets.


3.) 09 Aug 2018 19:35:06
Many people fail to understand how quickly things can change. Ed2 could say something 100% accurate one day and then a day later things could've changed. This doesn't mean he was wrong to begin with all it means is again, things change, it's business in the end of the day and it happens.

Unfortunately there's too many fools out there who are too quick to point the finger and say how wrong he/ macca is. I think the majority of the loyal people on these sites all know how reliable both Ed2 and Macca are.

Keep it up Ed2 and Macca, your info is very much appreciated.


4.) 09 Aug 2018 19:38:49
The world is full of tossers. You got to let them get on with and ignore them as much as possible.


5.) 09 Aug 2018 21:23:21
Best way to avoid most of those tossers is to stay away from Twitter.


6.) 09 Aug 2018 23:17:20
Or any javelin, hammer, discus and shotput competitions Squizza.


7.) 10 Aug 2018 00:21:18
WDS was telling us about a a tall mysterious lady with lovely soft hands weeks ago, the dog knows all.


 

 

19 Jul 2018 18:46:25
I know a lot of people are talking about the amount of money spent on a keeper and also what we spent on VVD in January and if you ask me the transfer fees as a whole are absolutely ridiculous at the moment, however, if someone paid the same amount for a striker or goal scoring winger, no one would be questioning these amounts. The thing is, we don't need a striker or a goal scoring winger so if we're using the same amount or less on other positions because we built possibly the best front three in football in this day and age for less than some people have paid on one striker, I don't see what the big deal is. We've strengthened where we needed to so hopefully we reap the benefits, that's what transfers are about.

WelshScouse

1.) 19 Jul 2018 19:04:18
I know some people are saying he’s overpriced but considering how much we needed a top quality keeper and how many top quality keepers are about you can say it’s money well spent, same goes for VVD.


2.) 19 Jul 2018 19:27:35
How can you know someone is overpriced until a) they have played for you (how long and how good) and b) if they are sold in future what the return is.

Please can we stop pretending to know about money when FSG have people whose career it is and are paid £100ks each year to do so.

Like Klopp, let the experts do their thang!


 

 

16 Jul 2018
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Finally got my ex wife's name covered over, what do people think?

WelshScouse

1.) 16 Jul 2018 08:53:05
Hahahahahaha quality f ing love it well done my friend
Up the pool.


2.) 16 Jul 2018 09:18:13
Replaced your ex wifes name with your first true love! Like it!


3.) 16 Jul 2018 09:27:32
You'll never have to cover over your bird.


4.) 16 Jul 2018 09:40:37
Your ex-missus wasn't named Alisson, was she by any chance haha?


 

 

14 Jul 2018 08:16:25
Quick question for Ed01 on shaqiri if possible, just wanted your opinion. I know he has the ability to be an excellent player and people are worried about his attitude, a lot of people think that Klopp is going to be the one to sort him out but do you think it could be something as simple as after the teams he's played for and trophies he's won then going to Stoke and getting relegated could be humbling enough to re-evaluate his approach and the knowledge it could be his last chance at a big club?

WelshScouse

{Ed001's Note - not really no. It is hardly hitting rock bottom and getting a wake up call. What will be more use will be the attitude of the manager and players around him, to keep him on his toes and his feet on the ground.}


1.) 14 Jul 2018 08:21:24
Make your mind up ed. on his toes or feet on ground? :-)

{Ed001's Note - see that's the problem, he needs to do both, which is why there is an issue...…}


2.) 14 Jul 2018 09:04:14
I would have preferred Fekir and Wilson to cover the wide forward positions personally, but it’s also 100% clear that we needed a quality senior player to back up Mane and Salah, and if Fekir isn’t 100% sorted then I’m glad we’ve moved for XS. Shaqiri is a gamechanger and has an excellent set piece delivery, and you don’t get that for 13m these days.

Of course attitude is potentially an issue, but Klopp doesn’t suffer fools and this team is tight and won’t easily be disrupted. I think it’s a shrewd piece of business if Klopp and the team can keep him engaged, as it gives us a potential match winner on the bench (or potentially even raise the competition for first team places) for not much money, hopefully leaving us budget to fix a starting position we actually need to change (GK)


3.) 14 Jul 2018 09:48:51
SGRed, Fekir is not a wide player and that is not the best place for him even for cover and even if he can deputize there. Wilson? I would have given him his chance but it seems Klopp needs him to develop other aspects of his game, per ED01.


 

 

 

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11 Aug 2017 23:44:10
Ck14,i wasn't suggesting for one second it was feasible, more just getting views, I'm in agreement with you Ron that I would rather let him go and play someone 100% dedicated in his position so it wasn't me saying I hope this happens, it was only because it was mentioned earlier I wanted to see if this was offered, who would take it?

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I really hope he is not going to be rushed back early to try and relieve some pressure from Brendan on the hope he has a stormer and scores the winner, because if he is rushed back early, it will be more than likely he will pick up an injury in the warm up and be out until after christmas

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21 Aug 2018 08:16:54
Great read ed, thanks. I don't understand how Kenedy escaped retrospective action for that kick, clear, blatant, off the ball. The FA's excuse that a free kick was rewarded is pathetic as the free kick was for the foul prior to the kick. These decisions are ridiculous, when every fan, manager of both teams and every neutral can see it's a clear red, how do the FA get it so wrong all the time.

WelshScouse

{Ed001's Note - I don't know mate. I thought it was a wind up when I first saw a report saying the FA had said they won't act on it. It was only after I read it a number of times from people like the BBC that I realised it was genuine. It is odd. If the ref had awarded the free kick for that, then he should be sacked for not sending him off.

One thing though, if the ref admits he either never saw it or (as if!) admits he made a mistake, they can then act.}


 

 

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21 Aug 2018 06:01:36
If thoughts and prayers can give you strength mate then you should be back with us in no time as you have a massive community, our rumours worldwide community thinking of you. And although it will be a long journey back, I hope you reading the messages of support and how much you actually mean to everyone here helps get you through the darker times.

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20 Aug 2018 09:56:59
All our thoughts are with you Salah, really hope you get well soon.

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14 Aug 2018 11:37:53
Ah sorry Ed you are right it was Parry, got confused, but still stands that I believe Benitez's could have built just as exciting squad then if the backing was the same.

WelshScouse

{Ed001's Note - but Klopp never had all his first choices either, Mo Salah ring a bell? The difference was he actually had back up options worth going for, rather than dross that he had never seen play like Rafa did. Klopp has had to earn the backing and prove he deserved it, plus he is only trying to buy 3 or 4 a season. Rafa wanted a whole new team every year, no club could afford to buy that many. He was a big part of the problem that the club suffered financially.}


 

 

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14 Aug 2018 11:31:50
Klopp has been given the money to sign the players he wants, a lot of Benitez's signings were replacements for his preferred signings that the board wouldn't buy so he didn't have it easy. Don't forget he'd agreed terms with David Silva and David villa before Hicks and Gillette pulled the plug on the deals, there may have been others that we don't know about so it's a bit harsh to say he signed so many flops when he wasn't given the backing klopp has been. Imagine the team we could have had if FSG was backing the cub then as they are now.

WelshScouse

{Ed001's Note - that was not G&H that pulled the plug on those signings, it was Prick Parry.}