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28 Jul 2017 17:20:08
Hi Eds, what's happening with Cameron Branagan? Seems to have disappeared off the radar.

The natural

{Ed001's Note - likely to leave.}

1.) 28 Jul 2017 20:19:19
Cheers ed001.

2.) 31 Jul 2017 14:27:00
Was the big fuss about Branagan for a few weeks last season just a flash in the pan or has he got potential but just not progressing?



04 Jul 2017 16:00:04
Hi eds I've used the search function but hasn't been asked in a few weeks. Have we looked at or enquired about Wendell for Leverkusen yet?

The natural

{Ed002's Note - No, Liverpool has no interest in him.}

1.) 04 Jul 2017 18:05:27
Thankfully. The boy is abysmal defensively.

2.) 04 Jul 2017 19:46:23
Moreno mark II.

3.) 04 Jul 2017 17:17:10
Cheers ed002.



05 Jun 2017 11:09:44
Eds has any interest been shown in Origi? Personally I think we should send him out on loan if the option became available. Could become a fantastic player but he won't while he's on the bench for us.

The natural

{Ed025's Note - not as far as i am aware mate, i think you are over indulgent with your assessment of him though as for me he is mediocre..

1.) 05 Jun 2017 11:20:12
I have to agree with Ed025's assessment there. I found Origi to be really disappointing towards the end of last season. He's got great physical attributes but lacks intelligence, his movement off the ball is poor, I found when he gets the ball he takes too many touches and takes all the momentum out of our attacks.

2.) 05 Jun 2017 11:20:54
He is mediocre. I agree. Hence why I said "could" become a fantastic player. Which I think he could. He has the physical attributes but his game intelligence is quite poor.

{Ed025's Note - fair enough mate..

3.) 05 Jun 2017 11:24:41
I don't know, we've seen how loans are going for most of our players. I'd argue training at Liverpool and playing 25/ 30 games a season is better experience for him. If the coach who's loaned him decides he doesn't rate him 10 games in, he'll have a much worse time of it. Another coach has no investment in his development.

I'd argue the only time a loan is worthwhile is when the player is going to start every week, putting them into someone's squad to rotate with isn't any better than rotating with us.

4.) 05 Jun 2017 11:26:35
He is mediocre I agree. Hence why i said he "could" become a fantastic player. Has all the attributes to do so but lacks game intelligence right now. And that won't improve much from the bench.

{Ed025's Note - fair enough mate

5.) 05 Jun 2017 11:40:56
He is no mediocre. He is decent but not anything spectacular. He has got plenty of chances ahead of Sturridge and should have made his position his own by now. He could also end up like Wellbeck. If the club is after another striker that clearly means Klopp doesn't want to rely on him or any other striker to lead the line!

{Ed025's Note - yes decent= nothing spectacular= mediocre..

6.) 05 Jun 2017 11:59:33
Agree with the ed on this one, and I really don't see how a player labelled as "mediocre" can also have the potential of becoming a "fantastic player".

7.) 05 Jun 2017 12:11:02
I thought his goal against Everton was well taken with good movement, the poor lad has not really had a chance at Liverpool - when he has come in he usually has done well, he has proved to be a better LFC player than the likes of Cisse, Diouf, Morientes, Ngog and Keane - he is still only 22 and is a 1 in 3 goal conversion rate and probably happy to be part of the squad - we cannot have 25 superstars. If we keep Sturridge and get another forward we will players like Origi and Ings to be happy as squad players.

{Ed025's Note - you cant dine out for ever on scoring against everton though mate..

8.) 05 Jun 2017 12:35:28
Adam it's quite simple. As a player progresses he can go from poor, to mediocre, to good, to very good, to excellent. Right now Origi is mediocre. With improvements he will go to good and with a lot of improvements he could potentially be great.

{Ed025's Note - and then theres the silk purse and sows ear theory mate..

9.) 05 Jun 2017 12:47:46
He could be a good bench option but really don't see him being a really good, 20 a season (or thereabouts) level of player. He still needs to develop but equally it is misleading to say not given a chance, he has had a lot of game time but he isn't ready yet to be the main attacking option.

10.) 05 Jun 2017 12:48:44
Genuinely can't make up my mind if Origi is going to be brilliant or the next Carlton cole!

{Ed025's Note - he aspires to be carlton cole fencey.. :)

11.) 05 Jun 2017 12:49:35
Touché ed025 touché.

12.) 05 Jun 2017 14:08:42
Harry Kane was mediocre.



04 Jun 2017 14:54:36
Has Markovic been sold? Did I miss this completely?

The natural

{Ed025's Note - no mate..

1.) 04 Jun 2017 16:14:39



03 Jun 2017 14:47:28
Salah all but done. Minor things wrapped up over the weekend. Would take a random event for us not to sign him now. Will be announced early next week.
Early 30m's. interesting business that was unseen from left field about a week ago.
That's a good sign in my eyes. Close nit group.

The natural

1.) 03 Jun 2017 15:28:16
Salah has been mentioned numerous occasions the last few months.

2.) 03 Jun 2017 15:29:28
Good signing, pace, skill, guile and end product.

3.) 03 Jun 2017 15:29:54
Insider info, natural?

4.) 03 Jun 2017 15:44:40
Hope its true. Getting him for less that 35 million is a good deal imo. Now onto the all important fullbacks (Periera and Bertrand are my choices) and maybe a CB.

5.) 03 Jun 2017 16:11:37
Covra by who? Nout on these pages, was all about brandt.

6.) 03 Jun 2017 18:09:18
There was mentions of him on this board, by posters and eds along with the national rags.

7.) 03 Jun 2017 19:09:15
With all due respect there are not many decent players that have not been mentioned by someone on here.

8.) 03 Jun 2017 20:01:32
He was mentioned a few times, VVD has been mentioned on a regular basis by every rag and media outlet and Solanke was also reported as a done deal a long while ago, seems for once the media has guessed right (although if you throw a lot of rubbish it sticks)

9.) 04 Jun 2017 02:16:13
Question: isn't Salah a right winger?
How do you guys think we would line up with him and Mane in the 11?

10.) 04 Jun 2017 02:59:24
Obviously, things will be shuffled around. Mane can play on the left too.




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19 Jul 2017 11:38:56
Regarding Keita, RBL will put themselves in a very embarrassing and awkward position now if they do decide to accept an offer. They've made very clear to the world that they will not sell and also stated why they will not sell.
Their fans will love hearing that, until they sell. Then there will be serious backlash.

One last offer from Liverpool I think. 70 million take it or leave it.

The natural

1.) 19 Jul 2017 11:45:33
They will leave it in my opinion.
Why would they accept? He's got a long contract, they don't need the money, transfer fees are only going one way.
They'd be mad to sell.

2.) 19 Jul 2017 11:50:52
Unless he wants to leave, Ron, and says it to them.

3.) 19 Jul 2017 11:51:15
They won't accept any offer now imo. Their public stance means they are not going to sell at any price and the last thing they want is to p*** their fans off by selling later on after making such grand statements. This deal is a no go and its time to move on and pursue some decent defenders. We do have Ejaria and Grujic who can have a real impact next season if given opportunities so their might be something good that comes out of missing out on keita.
Not to mention Keita himself may want to join us next season if we challenge for the league this season.

{Ed001's Note - what fans? They have no fans, everyone in Germany hates them. They are the only team ever to be more hated by Germans than Bayern Munich are to everyone other than Bayern fans. RBL have no worries about upsetting the 'fans' as it mostly consists of family and friends of the staff and players!}

4.) 19 Jul 2017 11:52:19
All down to Keita I think now. would have to force his way out which could get ugly.

5.) 19 Jul 2017 11:58:05
I am hearing his agent is in Hongkong to continue negotiations!

6.) 19 Jul 2017 12:06:30
His agent won't be negotiating a transfer.

7.) 19 Jul 2017 12:07:52
Ridiculous now.

Your not impressing anyone with this stance.

You will look better if you sell at a stupidly high price, because every other club will not think yo7 are push overs. Like levy at spurs. You want one of his players then you have to pay.

54 million for walker.

Take the 70 million. Put it that you dragged every last ounce of value out of keita and you will only ever sell a player on your terms.

But I agree with everyone these comments there making, I just can't see then going back on them.

I've just posted the lasted quoted one.

It's like there up a mountain and I just don't see them coming down. Fair play. You keep him for another year and then lose him with his release clause to bayern or something. and now make every player maybe think twice about joining you because they know they will probably never get to leave. I wouldn't join them if I was 18. No way.

8.) 19 Jul 2017 12:09:25
Harry, the deal that needs to be done is with RBL, not Naby's agents. Its obvious that both the player and his agents want the move to go through, and RBL are the ones playing hardball. The Hong Kong story is a no go.

9.) 19 Jul 2017 11:59:10
Really Ed001? I knew they were not very liked but assumed they might have a small but passionate fan base. Nevertheless, what would u do now if you were in Klopp's shoes? Would u tell them to make one last offer or would you just decide enough is enough and move on to other targets?

{Ed001's Note - I have no idea because I do not have access to the information he has at his disposal.}

10.) 19 Jul 2017 12:21:32
There hated because of how there created.

It's mainly down to the success they have I think.

The money that's there, other clubs don't use it like they can.

They have billions in the bank and don't have to follow the "german way".

It's pretty much how we all reacted to hating Chelsea. The money that they got and then city. That's all it is really.

11.) 19 Jul 2017 12:27:02
RBL do not need the money, they want to keep him.
Why would they sell? Why would they care if he leaves next season for £20m less?

They don't need the money.
If Naby didn't want to stay at RBL then don't sign a contract extension for 3 years.

Time for LFC to move on.

12.) 19 Jul 2017 12:30:25
we should make a final bid then if its not accepted, then move on, Lucas has gone, now Stewart, that's two deep midfielders, so there is a space for one incoming player, but who?

13.) 19 Jul 2017 12:32:37
Said from the off the deal wouldn't happen and i got dragged through the mud for saying it. They was adamant from day 1 they wouldn't sell yet somehow many fans on here kept believing it would? I hate to say I told you so but. I told you so. It's no disappointment to me, I'd of been disappointed if I thought such a transfer would go through but it hasn't, was never going to and won't.

14.) 19 Jul 2017 12:38:28
A Teabag dragged through the mud?

Sounds like the brew I had this morning 😡.

{Ed025's Note - stay out of Mcdonalds ron.. :)

15.) 19 Jul 2017 12:56:02
It was a little chef actually 👨‍🍳.

16.) 19 Jul 2017 15:14:13
Hahaha Ron about right mate, the moment you have a tiny bit of milk left lol.



06 Jul 2017 16:56:47
I must say I am still really annoyed we didn't go all out for Ryan Sessegnon before he signed his contract. Such a talent and probably would've got him for about £12m. Really feel we will regret that.

The natural

{Ed025's Note - I think hes better off where he is for now natural, plus i dont know if fulham would deal with liverpool after the dempsey tapping up debacle mate.

1.) 06 Jul 2017 18:18:20
I think it's time they get over it ed025. We are talking years ago here and we are also talking different people involved than there was then.

{Ed025's Note - i tend to agree mate..

2.) 06 Jul 2017 19:26:13
But it seems Fulham have still not let it go and that may have to do with LFC failing to smooth things over.



03 Jul 2017 22:18:37
Eds, I think any posts that come in about Keita, VVD, Mendy or Robertson shouldn't be put up. Just for say, 24-48 hours.
It's the SAME rumour and SAME question about the SAME four players.

The natural

1.) 03 Jul 2017 22:52:09
By your logic your post should not have been posted!

2.) 03 Jul 2017 23:10:08
So stop posting about viable options and post about fantasies instead? Okay let's see how this goes.

Ed002, any interest in Modric, Bailly, Alaba or Charlie Daniels? Just want to ask a different question so you guys don't get bored. Because I know how much you love questions about random players we aren't interested in 😂.

3.) 04 Jul 2017 00:17:35
Is Ronaldo still looking to leave then?

4.) 04 Jul 2017 06:34:42
You can stay away from Bailly MK 😂.

5.) 03 Jul 2017 23:50:44
Thought I would change it up a bit as well, not really LFC related but I got a giggle when I read this.

Ronald Koeman to report to Everton for a full medical after the club signed Michael Keane for reportedly €30m plus add ons.


{Ed025's Note - its the going rate im afraid savvy, mad i know but thats the way it is mate, but its about the same as liverpool played for lovren and klavan which makes it a bargain i suppose.. :)



29 Jun 2017 21:30:53
Nathan Ake going for £20m to Bournemouth. How are we not in for this lad. Pure class.

The natural

{Ed025's Note - i like him as well natural..

1.) 29 Jun 2017 21:36:21
Nickname - Purple.

{Ed025's Note - now theres a name from the past ron, luckily i never had the muscles to attract him.. :)

2.) 29 Jun 2017 22:33:12
Is excellent at left back and can competently play centre back or defensive midfield.

3.) 30 Jun 2017 01:04:04
Its okay lads, we'll wait until he is worth 60 million and then make a bid:)

4.) 29 Jun 2017 22:18:30
I'm surprised myself that Chelsea are allowing him to go unless there's something going on behind the scenes.



26 Jun 2017 19:54:21
Hi eds, Chelsea seem to be awash with brilliant young CB's yet are trying to buy Bonucci.
Have we shown any interest in Ake, Zouma or Christensen?

The natural

{Ed002's Note - No.}

1.) 26 Jun 2017 22:24:49
Christensen is the best out of those three, really top player.

2.) 26 Jun 2017 23:10:04
Cheers Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome. John Terry is certainly available. And Zouma for a loan. We will see about Ake.}

3.) 26 Jun 2017 23:12:31
Just an honest question Ed but surely the club would of had some idea of how klopp was acting behind the scenes or he would of been sacked by now? Or is it a case of FSG not having the guts to do so.?

{Ed002's Note - They are the owners and have people in London who run the club. They will be extremely disappointed yet again.}

4.) 26 Jun 2017 23:03:18
Was wondering the same thing a few days ago. Christensen has huge potential and played very well the last few years for Gladbach. Also he would be available for something around 20-25 mio € so wouldn't be that bad either.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea has already turned down a significant bid for Christensen, they do not wish to sell, and Liverpool has shown no interest.}

5.) 26 Jun 2017 23:24:44
Thanks for the quick reply Ed. Jes it's a bit tasty behind all the hugs and laughs so. And I'm a big fan of klopp myself but honestly he must be testing the patience big time now of FSG. Seems like they might try and put a leash on the dog. So to speak. I honestly feel like FSG might see LFC as a problem they cannot fix.

{Ed002's Note - They are continuing to try but at some point they will let go with the right offer.}

6.) 26 Jun 2017 23:32:56
Cheers Ed002 don't let the guys that bathe in constant ignorant bliss. Get you down. We always welcome the news. Even though it sometimes is not what we want to hear.




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13 Aug 2017 09:40:00
Insigne is quality.

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07 Aug 2017 21:59:41
I'd take Messi, or Ter Stagen plus cash. Oh and Suarez.

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07 Aug 2017 15:28:52
There's only one player I'd happily let Phil go so we can buy and that is Mbappe. We couldn't afford him without selling Phil. But with the money from the sale it becomes possible.

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07 Aug 2017 15:17:58
What's the point in buying the Ox? He won't get a game.

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28 Jul 2017 20:19:19
Cheers ed001.

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13 Aug 2017 20:47:10
Klopp is a fantastic manager and we are lucky to have him.

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08 Aug 2017 22:12:05
GK Schmeichel
RB Finnan
CB Terry
CB Stam
LB A. Cole
RM Ronaldo
CM Gerrard
CM Viera
LW Bale
ST Shearer/ Henry
ST Fowler/ Suarez.

The natural

{Ed025's Note - finnan????...your having a giraffe mate..



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04 Aug 2017 08:21:35
Eds, the 4-5 players Citeh have shed almost all left on a free. Literally recouped zilch.

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04 Aug 2017 08:19:43
I'd give them Phil and money not the other way round.

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02 Aug 2017 14:52:54
Grujic should, imo, be ahead of Can in the pecking order. For numerous reasons.

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