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05 Mar 2018 01:03:43
Hey eds n reds. just wondering if the eds could tell me whether Dani Ceballos is being looked at as a Jorginho type deep lying playmaker or is he being looked as a partner to Keita infront of that DLP.? Cheers.


{Ed002's Note - I have not decided tactically how I will use him just yet.}

1.) 05 Mar 2018 11:17:44
Thanks ed002 i really appreciate your help 👌.

2.) 05 Mar 2018 18:34:46
The kid has hardly kicked a ball in top flight football, I don’t know how he would walk into our team!

3.) 05 Mar 2018 21:02:02
BD-He’s played over 100 top flight games.

4.) 06 Mar 2018 09:07:27
Harry, he played a lot of football for Betis before joining RM. hardly a kid.



29 Dec 2016 10:14:19
Hey eds. just wanting to know if im correct in thinking Sakho, Lucas and Ilori will be the only players to move on this coming transfer period.?


{Ed001's Note - that is likely to be the case, though Michael Beale wanted Ilori to get a shot and was effusive in his praise of the lad before he left.}

1.) 29 Dec 2016 13:10:20
That is a shame!

Although I know he is not going to be "our saviour" I feel for the lad.

Are we assuming Gomez is going to be the 4th being used in the FA cup?

{Ed001's Note - if he is up to fitness by then. He is still feeling his way back.}




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15 Mar 2018 20:45:31
Eds n Reds. not sure the reaction i will get but for next season i would prefer we bring in a striker like Werner and move Firmino into midfield. i just think he would be perfect along side Keita with his pressing and creativity and would also add goals from midfield which is needed in my opinion. im not sure if we are looking at bringing in a CB but i think a quality CB, Jorginho and Werner strengthens along all lines. i mean how strong does a midfield of Jorginho, Firmino and Keita behind Mane, Werner and Salah seem. maybe im dreaming but it seems semi realistic to me. don't get me wrong i love what Firmino has done as striker but we need creativity and goals from midfield and im not sure Keita alone will be enough to take us to the level we are looking at getting to. adding more pace and goals to our front 3 would be freightening let alone adding more goals and creativity to midfield aswell. thoughts.?


1.) 15 Mar 2018 20:52:15
Who knows, Klopp might just go down that route. I think we need another option in attack but I wouldn’t mess with the Mane, Bobby, Salah combination because they work so well together.
It ain’t broke, don’t try and fix it.

We do need another option though against bus parkers.

2.) 15 Mar 2018 21:16:12
I also agree we do need another option but I wouldn't move Firmino in a million years, he's at his best in this position, I don't want to see his form drop by moving him about.

3.) 15 Mar 2018 21:24:08
I like the idea id we are playing a 4-2-2-2, 4-2-3-1 or something like. but in our current system I feel like Firmino wuold take a good couple of seasons to settle into one of the 2 box to box midfield roles we play.

4.) 15 Mar 2018 21:36:44
Firmino's unpredictable movement up front is a big part of how we create space in attack. A lot of the time defenders are left with a choice between being pulled out of position by his movement, handing him off to someone else (which can go wrong if a ball comes forward at the wrong time or they just don't communicate properly) or outright leaving him drop into space unmarked, all of which helps stretch and upset opposition defenders.

Firmino has the technical ability to be a good attacking midfielder, but if he was coming from deeper positions instead of starting up top and wandering about, he'd be easier to predict and we'd probably need to reshape our attack a bit. Not a good idea, imo.

Obviously Firmino can't play every game and we do need another option, but said option wouldn't be first choice.

5.) 15 Mar 2018 21:52:07
I actually think it would be a much easier transition to that role then his move to striker. i mean he was naturally an attacking mid transformed to a striker anyway. obviously im on the outer with this idea but i really think having his qualities in midfield would make a world of difference alongside Keita. obviously goals are only an issue for us with teams that sit back against us. more pace up top and more creativity in midfield helps towards fixing that issue.

6.) 15 Mar 2018 22:55:39
My fear is not where Bobby plays but who. could take over if he suffers and injury. He is so critical to the team and I'm the most talented mportant player.

7.) 16 Mar 2018 01:35:20
No you play your best player at cf. He is a forward, our attack is class.

8.) 16 Mar 2018 05:37:09
Well put Something Red. I wouldn’t start him in midfield in a 4-3-3 but a switch to 4-2-3-1 with Werner at striker ahead of Mane, Firmino, Salah and Hendo/ Keita at base of midfield would be one hell of a team.

9.) 16 Mar 2018 07:05:59
We need a player like Son. Someone who plays attacking mid and can play striker if needed.

10.) 16 Mar 2018 07:25:48
Whoever you get, has to agree to be Bobbie's deputy and NO top class or up and coming striker like Werner will come here and do that so people prolly wanna lower their expectations on the level of striker we could get. Just saying.

11.) 16 Mar 2018 10:53:14
smurf - it all sounds good. just pointing out that we don't really play attacking mids. like, if we was to drop in the midfield he would need to do a job at both ends of the pitch, link play etc etc etc. we've specialised in turning attack-minded midfielders into more central midfiedlers (Hendo, Can, Gini, Lallana, Lucas, Ox etc) . but that would be total flipping of the script if we have a go at turning a forward into a Centre-mid! I'm sure he could do it! just think it would take a bit of time more than we would like.

he's beaut in the front 3, use him there. take advantage of his flexibility as a #10 to vary our formation / system from time to time.



15 Jan 2018 20:34:27
Eds n reds. now that's Karius is looking like getting a run of games, i would like to hear the kop pump him up a bit with a song. make him feel wanted by us and give him a bit of confidence. from the comments by Robertson saying hearing the crowd sing his name gave him goosebumps and obviously turned him into the energiser bunny haha it may very well give him that extra 10% to get him going. if it doesn't work then so be it, but atleast we can say we played our part to give him every chance. thoughts.?


{Ed002's Note - It seems most people here want him gone as well.}

1.) 15 Jan 2018 20:45:59
Swing low sweet chariot


2.) 15 Jan 2018 21:03:51
We have lost just one of the 22 Premier League and Champions League games that Karius has played for Liverpool since he arrived.

He has my full support, that’s for sure!

3.) 15 Jan 2018 21:15:14
Mine as well, hopefully he grabs his chance.

4.) 15 Jan 2018 21:18:13
It does seem that way Ed002. but those people should take a back seat until the end of the season and let the rest actually support him and just see what happens from here on in.

5.) 15 Jan 2018 21:33:43
Song? For gifting the opposition goals and making his backline unsure? Come on guys, I'm okay that he gets the support he needs now that Klopp has decided to publicly endorse him as a No. 1 a second time in his short Anfield career. But why should the Kop gift him a song? For his good looks or for his contributions on the putch?

6.) 15 Jan 2018 22:51:09
Disagree, Noski. The kid barely plays and when he does, he has good games and bad games BUT no rhythm. The kid needs to be playing and he will get his chance. It is up to him now, not me nor you as you clearly have no interest in supporting our player.

If you can you could bear a 29 yr old mistake in Migs for 4 season, riddled with more errors than any other GK in the PL during that span, I'm sure you can live with a young GK with up side and hope of improving for 4 months. I know I can.

7.) 15 Jan 2018 23:42:13
Noski, the OP just gave you a reason why to sing a song. You seem more entitled and will give if you receive. Sounds like a customer. Good stuff.

8.) 16 Jan 2018 01:53:15
BRover, irrespective of my personal view that Klopp has shielded Karius a lot and given him every opportunity to thrive, and irrespecrive of my personal view whether he'll ever make it as a No. 1 at Anfield or elsewhere, I agree that he should be given every opportunity to stake a claim for the shirt. But folks like Faithinworks going about being entitled is just plain ridiculous! Sing him a song, fly a plane over Anfield saying "I love you Karius. " Ridiculous! What makes a player deserve a song from the Kop? Fight for the shirt and show you care, and stop all these nonsense!



14 Jan 2018 11:16:58
The thought of Mane, Greizmann and salah infront of Firmino and Keita makes me moist.


1.) 14 Jan 2018 11:47:49
If you were Smurfett I'd get that statement.

2.) 14 Jan 2018 13:11:11
Ok first off, that was gross. On a more serious level, Greizmann won't be signing here.



02 Jan 2018 01:50:38
Hey ed002. A 6ft4 goal keeper with smooth hands.? Can you ask wonderdogsparky if im i getting warmer please.?


1.) 02 Jan 2018 09:46:41
Can't be Butland then because he's 6'5.

2.) 02 Jan 2018 10:26:43
It's VVD, 6ft4, long hair.



30 Aug 2017 09:08:35
Eds n Reds, I feel like we are at a point where we have to choose between either Henderson or Emre. My reasoning is i don't see Emre as a permanent CM in our midfield looking at how our team is evolving. obviously Coutinho was going to be alongside Keita infront of Henderson in an ideal world. That hasn't happened this year so there will be opportunities this season, but i feel like Emre sees things this way and is reluctant to sign because of it. i actually think its fair enough on his behalf, at only 23 he's at a level where a team like Juventus are willing to give him the assurances he might be after rather than playing as, in my mind Hendersons back up. personally i would be making the call to make Emre our CDM. that tho is very easy for ME to say, but i think from a managers point of view it would be really diffucult to make that call, on the Captain of a team that apear from the outside to be very close knit and are right now playing good football together. Henderson is also a top professional and i think a good leader. But is that enough if someone is proving to be the better option.? And when is the right time to make that sort of call.? Especially in Emre's case who is willing to run his contract down and move on. Thoughts.?


1.) 30 Aug 2017 09:37:39
Can likes to drive forward with the ball. So when deploying him to any role you have to consider this attribute.

2.) 30 Aug 2017 09:39:33
Why would you waste can as a defensive mid?

3.) 30 Aug 2017 09:50:19
It's a good point made, I think everyone here knows what Hendo brings, but the way we could line up in midfield next year, it would be great to secure Can . He has improved so much and influences games much more .
If it was one or the other ide prefer we had Can, . Klopp has shown he can be ruthless, which is no bad thing .

4.) 30 Aug 2017 09:51:40
There is a justifiable debate about who's the better player between Hendo and Can, there are certainly things Can does better than Hendo but there are a lot of people, and it seems Klopp is one of them, who see Hendo as the more effective player.

Hendo brings discipline and control to the team, something equally important to flair and creativity. He's also our only player who has that quality. Can has a lot of talent but would I put him in team if I had Hendo, Coutinho and Keita (assuming he's as good as we're told he is) available? No I wouldn't.

5.) 30 Aug 2017 10:07:44
The beauty of playing both of them is when one goes forward the other sits and knows the position, If Emre is having no luck then he switches with Henderson it happened against arsenal all the time when Hendo pressed hard Can dropped in and stayed to cover while Hendo did the leg work I do think with both on top form with the addition of Gigi or whoever it will be very difficult for any team to beat them.

6.) 30 Aug 2017 10:34:08
Can scores goals which is vital when you play two B2B players as well Wiji. Henderson simply doesn't!

7.) 30 Aug 2017 10:55:35
Harry, Can wouldn't be scoring those goals if he was playing in Hendo's position.




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05 Mar 2018 11:17:44
Thanks ed002 i really appreciate your help 👌.




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27 Aug 2017 11:21:19
Fair enough ed. if that's the case it would need to be an old bloke like Manninger that isn't going to be ahead of either Karius or Ward in the pecking order.


{Ed002's Note - Sure, Manchester City has Bravo, Spurs Vorm, Bournemouth Boruc, Southampton Taylor, Chelsea Eduado etc.. It is a system that works well for most clubs as they can share experience and help out the younger keepers at the club and at least one side always supports them in getting their coaching badges and have them work with the youth sides. I understand reading some of the replies that many of the Grunts don't realise or understand such things. For me the issue Liverpool has is with the third choice Ward. He should have been loaned back to Huddersfield (who wanted him) and he would be getting some fantastic experience at the highest level and Liverpool could have gone and got another Manninger. For me, they could have let Ward have his loan and recruited an out of contract home grown goalkeeper like Ross Turnbull and have been in great shape.}



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27 Aug 2017 11:07:25
2 decent keepers is plenty. how often does a 3rd choice keeper make the bench, let alone actually play.


{Ed002's Note - You will find all Premier League clubs have three decent goalkeepes in their squad. Klopp has set his stall out with his goalkeepers (perhaps keeping quiet about the whole subject would have been advisable, but he didn't). If Mignolet were to be sold, and I know nothing at all of this "offer" from Napoli that is being suggested, Liverpool need another goalkeeper - whether you think all they need is two or not.}



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26 Aug 2017 10:36:46
Is it 1 of Van Dijk, Koulibaly or Howedes.?




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01 Aug 2017 23:08:28
U obviously didn't understand wat im saying mate. its not about the players wanting to join us cos all of them have been willing to. its other reasons why the others haven't joined.





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15 Mar 2018 21:52:07
I actually think it would be a much easier transition to that role then his move to striker. i mean he was naturally an attacking mid transformed to a striker anyway. obviously im on the outer with this idea but i really think having his qualities in midfield would make a world of difference alongside Keita. obviously goals are only an issue for us with teams that sit back against us. more pace up top and more creativity in midfield helps towards fixing that issue.




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29 Jan 2018 10:49:29
Aaron Mooy.




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15 Jan 2018 21:18:13
It does seem that way Ed002. but those people should take a back seat until the end of the season and let the rest actually support him and just see what happens from here on in.




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11 Jan 2018 01:06:47
Firmino and Assaidi.




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24 Aug 2017 11:45:05
Firmino will because he will be our penalty taker and rack up an extra 10 this season.