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Is Jose Mourinho doing a good job at Manchester United

19 Mar 2018 12:41:23
{Ed's Note - Shappy has posted a new article entitled, Is Jose Mourinho doing a good job at Manchester United

Shappy

1.) 19 Mar 2018 15:01:19
I hate Moaninho and I hope he never manages my beloved LFC.


2.) 19 Mar 2018 15:26:27
with the players at his disposal no, however he could still win the fa cup which would be another trophy to add to his personal collection as I get the feeling he couldn't care less about man utd and would be out of there like a shot if psg came calling.


3.) 19 Mar 2018 15:35:09
That was a good read Shappy. If I was a Utd fan I'd want him out immediately, he's poison, sure he can get results but he's not the only man who can do that.

He's an absolute spanner and like you say a bully, I have no respect for people like that and even if I was a united fan i wouldn't care if he won the lot, I wouldn't want him as manager. He has you playing boring football week in week out, he's not as good as some people think.

For you right now, I don't think it's time to sack him but he should definitely be gone come the end of the season, I just don't see that happening, I think you'll be stuck with him for another season or so.


4.) 19 Mar 2018 17:46:41
KK, I would not want that poison of a manager at LFC no matter what second rate trophy (his words, not mine) he wins. He is simply a cancer wherever he goes now and tho he'll win a trophy here and there, I would gladly not have him anywhere near LFC cos the Trump-like baggage he brings is poison and causes destruction wherever he goes and after all types of turbulence at this club for the past decade, I would just like a period where we all go out, cheer our team with no drama post game.


5.) 19 Mar 2018 19:29:12
I remember when he first came to the premiership he was like a breath of fresh air, he was funny and aragont but his style of football was good and exciting. But he has gone to big clubs with extensive buying power, Chelsea spent over £300m in his first term then Real, spent £200m in his first year got run out of Real then Inter, £150m in his first year left for Chelsea again spent £200m got run out again now utd. £350m since he joined them played some of the most boring football I have seen in years. He has a squad that should be challenging for every honour in the game but stiffles the players, won't let them play to their strengths and then when thing don't go his way he bullies players and then has a major rant. Blame everybody else except him self. Thank God we went for rafa in 2005 instead of mourino, would want him any where near our club, by the way good read shappy.


6.) 19 Mar 2018 21:16:35
Deisered, spot on. Rafa's time had run it's course and Rick Parry has committed a lot of sins during his time at LFC BUT I will be forever grateful for not letting that classless, poisonous bully at the Toilet, anywhere near our club at the time.


7.) 19 Mar 2018 21:34:25
Nice read shappy but feel like I need to pick up a couple of points.

You seem to think lesser clubs like us and and spurs are happy to play nice football and not win, crap we want to win every year if you win with style even better but winning is what it's all about i would take any type of league win no matter the style.

It's only when your not winning that style becomes important hence utds fansobsession with Liverpool style under klopp and utds lack of style under jose, remember there was a time when we looked at Utd with that slightly patronising look so don't bother go ing down that road.

Second i could go through your whole team but i won't just a couple all I hear is what klopp or pep would do the your players lukaku being the main one how much he could score.

Lukaku wouldn't get within a mile of a klopp or pep team he has not the movement technical ability or tactical awareness to play for either manager i laugh when i think of the damage he would do to either front three.

He has a manager that plays quick long ball to the front at Utd that's his strength flick one hold up play for the runners. he's with a manager who should be able to get the best out of him already, and in no way would he thrive under either manager. look how klopp handled benteke.

Will just touch on pobga your greatest manager let him go without a second thought, maybe the best manager of all time could see he hasn't the right attitude or mentality to play at the top. this cannot be coached its why Fergie let him go would he do any better under klopp or pep maybe he wouldn't sulk as much under them, as they would use him better but would doubt if his work rate would get him a game with either manager. both managers are not big fans of players with less than a top work ethic.

I won't go as most of the players that jose has bought are not really the type either manager would target because of totally contrasting styles if football.

And just for fun the one player that pep did want showed for all his talk of wanting to win medals he went for the money, take a bow mr sanchez that was a surprise but i betcha peps's not losing much sleep over that now.


8.) 19 Mar 2018 23:13:26
Mourinho isn't the same guy he was 12 years ago, he's become much more cynical. But what everyone is overlooking is that Utd are having, by a margin, their best season since Ferguson left. Utd fans want their cake and to eat it, he's improved the team, he's improved results but everyone's upset because he's done it the 'wrong' way. I think Utd would be crazy to ask Mourinho at the moment.


9.) 20 Mar 2018 07:20:25
I hope he’s runner up in league and FA cup as that will convince the board to keep him on for his proper melt-down season - 3 😄.


 

 

11 Mar 2018 17:38:00
You guys make me laugh, you sing "You'll never walk alone" then turn on your players after every defeat.

Little hypocritical don't you think?

Maybe you should change the lyrics to "you'll never walk alone unless your crap then you can do one".

United played better on the day, end of.

Jose set his team up to nullify your front three as he realised that beyond your excellent forward line you have a functional but uninspiring midfield, a creaking defence and a couple of rodeo clowns in goal.

You need to stop signing players from Southampton, bar Mane who has been excellent all your other signings from Southampton have been poor. You can't keep signing mid table players and expect them to step up to become world class players.

Oh wait what about Mario Lemina? Lol.

If you are to improve you need to create a defence that doesn't panic and good at the slightest amount of pressure. A midfielder who can step up and create something when the forward line is struggling, and a keeper who can command his area and not make silly mistakes.

Some of those players might need to be bought in, but some might step up from your academy. That is unless you run those kids out of town like I'm seeing happen with Trent Alexander-Arnold.

You'll never walk alone, don't make me laugh. Lol.

Shappy

1.) 11 Mar 2018 18:07:29
i agree with some of this but your ending is just pure hating so i then think your not really being real

liverpool do have a lot of issues with defenders and goalkeepers, plan b and winning from behind
but its all part of the process to build a solid team to win things

i do believe have to have a lot of luck to finish 4th -they need spurs and especially chelsea to drop points and not lose away at stamford bridge that's crucial
as they still have everton to contend with and some tough teams away so liverpool need a lot of luck right now.


2.) 11 Mar 2018 18:09:11
What a waste of a minute that was reading such dross. Get over yourselves mate you haven't exactly won the league have you, you beat us, that's all there is to it, it happens, it's football.


3.) 11 Mar 2018 18:18:18
"don't make me laugh. Lol. "

Too late. Sorry.


4.) 11 Mar 2018 18:18:43
I agree with you on what people are saying about Alexander-Arnold, they need to look at themselves. Young players have off-days and they'll never develop if you immediately discard them afterwards (someone said he's been a liability for a few weeks, what games was he watching? ) . That sort of stuff pressured Klopp into dropping Karius after his first few games and then saddling us with another season of Mignolet conceding against any shot that wasn't straight at him.

But other than that, your post is laughable. So we effectively have only three worthwhile players and our transfer policy is laughable? Suggest you look at your own house then mate because you've really been no better than us over the season. You must only have three worthwhile players too.


5.) 11 Mar 2018 18:22:15
Absolute loser, that was the most pointless post ever and typical of you mancs being obsessed with us. I bet you know more about Liverpool's history than you do your own club. Get out of that Egyptian river and admit you support Liverpool. I absolutely can't stand people like you, and this is being polite.


6.) 11 Mar 2018 18:24:17
Well Salah mate you guys would be the experts on not winning the EPL. lol. If we finish higher than we did last season then that is progress, if its enough is up for debate. We added a couple of trophies to our cabinet last season and we are still in two cups this season with a manager who has won more cup competitions than any other manager currently still managing. So anything can happen yet.

I would like to hear your opinions though on singing "you'll never walk alone" then coming onto a site like this and do nothing but slag the whole team off, especially a young 18 year old homegrown lad.


7.) 11 Mar 2018 18:34:45
Let them enjoy there moment guys as they won there cup final yesterday, are trouble is when the poor teams don’t attack us we struggle to break them down, we need to find a way to get beyond the negative teams and when we do take our chances, hasn’t been the best of weekends for us but it’s only one game and I’m sure come the seasons end we’ll be nicely placed in the top 4. ps good luck against Sevilla on Tuesday you may just need it!


8.) 11 Mar 2018 18:38:19
I think shappy has a point, a lot of the fans on here are either massively up or massively down. You’re going to win the League or you’re all doomed. Not all of you, we have a good craic with a couple, Irish Rover always talks sense but some of you are over emotional. You have played some stunning football this year and I love to see home grown players getting a chance, so to blaming one of your own for a defeat is a bit shallow.

I love that United and Liverpool are both improving, I look forward to a head to head for may years to come, but you do all need to chill out.


9.) 11 Mar 2018 18:43:30
That was the most cobatructive analysis I've read on here in a long time. Just didn't need to be laced with cynicism tho lol manU executed their gameplan better. As we've seen this year, it is only neccessary to have average players to turn up and execute that plan to beat us. But alas there are bo moral victories and Im certainly not claiming one!


10.) 11 Mar 2018 18:49:41
I agree with you in regards to people slagging off the lad, completely agree and it's out of order but the rest of your post (s) are absolutely pointless, your speaking nonsense, but if it makes you feel better you carry on. It's laughable more then anything. Your just making yourself look pretty stupid mate.


11.) 11 Mar 2018 18:52:51
In Istanbul, if you think your being polite calling someone an "absolute loser" then me and you have very different ideas on manners. Lol.

If you honestly believe no Liverpool supporters would venture into the United page had you won yesterday then your the one in denial.

I came on here and asked a genuine question. How can you sing about always supporting eachother then come on here and rip chunks out of your players? How can you not see the hypocrisy in that?

Still waiting for a real reply.


12.) 11 Mar 2018 19:13:25
Boomerynwa, We don't consider beating Liverpool as a cup final, we've been to three cup finals in the last three years and won them all. So we consider cup finals cup finals. You know the ones where you get a trophy.

I'll hold m hands up I did come on here with half an eye on a fishing trip, many of you have been kindly obliging. However, I am asking a serious question, and one many of you have avoided answering.

So I'll ask you directly as someone who has "ynwa" in your sign-off, do you think it is hypocritical to sing to your players that you will always support them, to then go slag them off 90 minutes later on the internet and social media?

If you want to slag them off then fine, but don't lie to them and sing them songs of how you will always support them.


13.) 11 Mar 2018 19:20:19
I don't see why you are coming on here taking the moral high ground. It wasn't that long ago United fans were booing their team. Did the slip your little mind?


14.) 11 Mar 2018 19:28:53
Stoke with money played to their strengths with a flat back ten and won. It's a simple as that. There defence was better than our attack. However it will got to a point this season that Stoke with money will have that back fire on them and conceed and not be able to get the goals back.


15.) 11 Mar 2018 19:33:32
The OP makes a good point, football supporters who slag off their own players after a bad game are pathetic, as is the OP in his subsequent posts where he admits to trying to wind up Liverpool supporters, pathetic. Get a life mate!


16.) 11 Mar 2018 19:49:01
Kimuraking, not sure I can translate your post into English but if you think we are Stoke with money then you are blinkered. You might want to think about your (not you’re) spelling mate.


17.) 11 Mar 2018 19:51:23
Shappy mate who have I slagged off? I haven’t said a word about anyone. I support my team players managers etc. I think you need to speak to whoever you are looking for to get your answers mate!


18.) 11 Mar 2018 19:52:13
The fact is Shappy it is hypocritical to sing YNWA one minuet then say what some have been saying the next. That's the answer to your question. So those that do critise can carry on singing a song about hope and determination that is still the best club song ever, and be hypocrites whilst doing it and United fans can carry on singing about Lukaku's giant slong whilst not being hypocrites and wishing they had it. End of.


19.) 11 Mar 2018 20:25:30
Awfully sorry Shappy. I did not realise the construction of my hastily typed messages vexed you so old bean. I will try in the future to proof read my messages, as I would hate to think you're (happy with that, oh good) struggling to read them . It really did not cross my mind that there, their and they're, or for that matter your and you're would really make much of a difference in reading when you're (did I get it right again, oh marvellous) posting on a football rumour site. I will endever to do better.


20.) 11 Mar 2018 20:26:28
I think with criticising a player there is a very thin line between fair criticism and bullying. I mean, naming no names there have been some players in the past who simply were not good enough to play at the top level that we aspire to reach. You have to have some right to exercise discontent at having such players in your team, but at the same time, the kind of hatred that gets directed towards young lads like Karius and TAA after one or two bad games is crazy and unreasonable (and embarrassing), then you have the disgraceful death threats to Lovren.

As for United, I don't see this year as an improvement at all for them (regardless of finishing in a better position in the league), unless they can win some silverware. Finishing 2nd having played really defensively and being over 10 points behind your city rivals is nothing to smile about. The fact is, United have been on a steep decline ever since they lost one of the best managers ever in football. If anyone was going to stop that decline you would think it would be Mourinho, but all I have seen is defensive tactics, excuses from the manager and no threat of challenging for the league. This is Manchester United we are talking about, they should be competing for the league each year - anything less is a big failure.


21.) 11 Mar 2018 20:28:02
Awfully sorry my last post should have been to AJH not Shappy. Grevious error on my part. And I am so humbly sorry.


22.) 11 Mar 2018 20:37:32
I've never gone to another team's page because I support LFC and couldn't care less what fans of other clubs think or say. I don't understand why people go to other team's sites or why anyone cares what other fans think. I only care about LFC.

{Ed025's Note - thats a bit insular stone, i feel its fine to hear other posters views on my team as it gives a fairer reflection on how the team is viewed by people without red tinted specs mate, but everyone to their own i suppose..


23.) 11 Mar 2018 20:52:50
It's fine them coming here but when they speak nonsense it's pointless. At least speak and have something to debate instead of spouting absolute rubbish. BUT they all can't be like you Ed25, for an Everton fan your absolutely sound as a pound mate and are simply honest when you speak whether it be about Everton or about Liverpool, I respect that.

{Ed025's Note - i agree that sometimes you will get trolls who spout crap salah but that happens on every forum, there are some good posters on other sites and for me its healthy to hear from opposing fans mate...cheers..


24.) 11 Mar 2018 21:05:54
I’m with stone 👍.


25.) 11 Mar 2018 20:50:20
I take you point, Lallana (signed from Southampton of course) was awful yesterday when he came on wasn’t he? You make some valid points and then ruin your post with utter nonsense and typical mank sore-winner attitude. You won, enjoy it instead of going on another teams page and shouting off like your own team has no issues.


26.) 11 Mar 2018 20:51:43
Coming from an Manchester United fan! The irony! I do visit your page when you lose to read your posts! Trust me this page is 300% better!


27.) 11 Mar 2018 20:44:53
It wasn't that long ago Utd fans were booing their own team. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Man Utd fans booing Lukaku


28.) 11 Mar 2018 20:57:01
I’m with you on this Stone. I’m not interested in whining mancs, bitter blues, or the plastics. I’m interested in our team and how we are improving and who is playing. I’m quite happy to leave the other team’s sites to their fans. It was an unfortunate result but onwards and upwards. Watford next!


29.) 11 Mar 2018 21:46:10
This is hilarious, I came on here to ask a serious question and have a little banter.

To those who have admitted the hypocrisy of singing to players that they will always support them only to slay them off 90 minutes later I thank you.

To those either unprepared to accept that or unable to grasp the concept thank you and goodnight. X.

{Ed002's Note - The Liverpool fans have no idea what banter is Shappy.}


30.) 11 Mar 2018 21:48:15
Spot on, Stone. Don't care what other teams do so don't care what they say and if their are going to come over and debate us here, they'd better have some good points to lay out instead of lecturing us on how to run our club and TW strategy whereas on their side, they have a hypocrite of a manager who destroys his own players, plays stone age football most of the time and has won the very trophies he himself called, 3rd rate or losers' trophies when lfc was winning them in the past. They are now even calling the Charity Shield a trophy now and calling their "trophy haul" last season as "The Treble. Fergie is spitting into his whisky having heard that nonsense. The hypocrisy is staggering.

Fact of the matter is that Utd are nowhere near City any more than LFC are and this is after outspending us well over the odds since Mou and Klopp arrived. We finished comfortably ahead of them last season YET they wanna counter act that with them winning losers' trophies (their fans', Fergie's and Mou's words, not mine) which is nonsense. To me, we are in the same boat and that should worry Utd more than LFC cos they are the ones being embarrassed by their former "noisy neighbors" who are now, not even in the same zipcode as they are.


31.) 11 Mar 2018 22:41:37
The funny thing is that Shappy could easily have been one of the thousands and maybe even millions of Liverpool fans around the world who were slagging off FSG for selling our best stars and not replacing coutinho hahahahahahahahahaha.


32.) 12 Mar 2018 00:27:20
Top bants there mate, top bants. Bare bants, in fact.

I'm all for engaging with fans of other teams 025, but when all they want to do is act like a rodent, nibbling at your ankles, you just want to stand on them. If they want to act more like a lion and be graceful, you tend to have an inclination to treat them in kind.

It's all a matter of perspective really - stand on a rat, give respect to a lion.

{Ed025's Note - i was not talking about trolls WRKD who just spout rubbish, i was referring to the decent posters who may have a different perspective and unbiased view on the game mate..


33.) 12 Mar 2018 09:56:57
I guess my point is Ed I don't understand the trolling. To come to another site and offer some substantial analysis or ask a genuine question is one thing, to go to another site just to be abnoxious and rub it in is quite another. I don't do a good job of explaining myself sometimes. Sorry.

{Ed002's Note - Generally people who do that on the Liverpool page get abused - I deleted a mess of that rubbish later. Banter doesn't work with the Liverpool fans as they just don't get it.}


34.) 12 Mar 2018 10:13:31
I been on the other pages and was genuinely surprised at how little traffic there was particulary during the transfer windows. this page goes nuts all year round. think it is something to do with being starved off winning things, making the wolves do crazy things!

back to the OP, didn't even think it was that bad. had he not made himself out to be a manU supporter, most of ya would either have agreed with him or not even battered an eye lid at his comments.

There will always be moral inequivalencies between his point and reality. but isn't that the point of banter! so banter back people lol don't take things so seriously! not like he came out campaigning for FSG or Klopp to get out. I mean, he's not a liverpool fan after all. think about it :)


35.) 12 Mar 2018 14:11:42
This is all a bit sad. TAA was not to blame as the coach and more experienced players let him down. All clubs have fans who spout nonsense about players. I think we can all agree that both teams need to focus on their own weaknesses and to be honest there’s plenty for both to work at.

United have bragging rights over this game and should now finish 2nd, I happen to think their most important result of the season was recovering to beat Palace, without that their confidence would not have been so high going into the game versus us and so yesterday and Tuesday would have been a great deal harder for them. They are more of a team without Pogba so that’s a headache for them, we are less of a team without Henderson, I still don’t understand why he played in midweek instead of yesterday.

Anyway neither of our seasons will be of any real note unless we win the UCL, a bridge too far for both squads methinks, enjoy the ride while we are still in it and we still need to secure a top 4 slot so plenty to play for. Realistically we are both now playing for consolidation status into next years UCL and to set up a better league campaign next season. Everything else is just spouting partisan hot air until the 26th May
1🤩2🤩3🤩4🤩5🤩, 6?🤩? Whoops I did it myself 😘.


 

 

08 Feb 2018 17:43:40
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Players that would complete Manchester United's team

Shappy

1.) 08 Feb 2018 17:47:43
Cracking read that. Never read an article on buses and how they are parked before 😂.


2.) 08 Feb 2018 18:37:55
Good read mate.


3.) 08 Feb 2018 21:17:04
Good article, only thing is that despite united having all the money in the world, the fans have claimed to be '3 players away' every summer, and yet nothing changes. Even if all these transfers took place they'd probably still come second.


4.) 08 Feb 2018 22:32:21
Without Fergie they're beginning their decline. They'll always be around like us. But no more dominating now it's going to be City for the next 20 years.


5.) 08 Feb 2018 23:32:17
The article should be titled ' Players that could but will not complete Man UTD's team and have no hope of signing'.

Nevertheless, a decent enough read.


6.) 09 Feb 2018 02:24:50
Interesting article, and kind of worrying with all that forward talent. If they can get another top class midfielder alongside Matic and Pogba and sort out the back 4 (assuming can keep DDG) then they would be really top squad. pity they only have Mourinho and not Klopp!


7.) 09 Feb 2018 08:51:00
SGRed really? What forward talent u talking about? Its no better than what we have tbh. Sanchez is world class on his day, Lukaku is a carthorse for half the games in a season while Martial and Rashford are too inconsistent. Mata is decent enough while Lingard is just about OK.
Man utd are as close to winning the BPL with 3 brand new players as we are with 3 brand new ones ourselves. Add Fekir, Alisson and Paredes (my ideal summer additions) and we will be title challengers ourselves.


8.) 09 Feb 2018 11:11:26
Spot on, IB. I think Sanchez will struggle in that stifling system Mou plays, IMO. We are not far from them at all. We just need a bit more consistency even tho, we are far more consistent this season than last season overall BUT all is clouded by the incredible season City is having.


9.) 09 Feb 2018 11:46:28
I hate utd but sadly it is not them that have trouble landing the really big signings.


10.) 09 Feb 2018 11:47:06
To write off utd or any of the top five and spurs is ridiculous. Everyone went crazy for Chelsea last year and now it's city. A new season means a clean slate and we all have a chance, us very much included.


 

 

28 Sep 2017 10:38:01
So as a United fan can I just ask which is everyone's favourite Bond film?

Mine is From Russia with love. Lol.

Shappy

1.) 28 Sep 2017 10:52:17
To be fair mate, that's a step up from "Juergen Flopp".

Your lot must've been up since Tuesday brainstorming something clever to say, so i applaud the effort and dedication!


2.) 28 Sep 2017 11:29:41
Mines 'a view to a kill'

Apparently it's showing at Anfield on October 14th ;)


3.) 28 Sep 2017 14:58:11
Goldfinger for any Utd fan because their club is full of
Pussy Galore.


 

 

03 Sep 2014 14:22:59
Not that I suspect I'll get it but was just wondering if I can get any no bias opinions purely based on football decisions made by the brain and not the heart.

Last season Liverpool did very well, maybe they over achieved maybe they were just that good I'm not here to discuss that.

What I'm interested in is purely based on talent and ability to do the job required of them which player is better?

Mignolet or De Gea

Jonhson or Rafael

Skrtel or Jones

Agger or Rojo

Flanagan or Shaw

Gerrard or Blind

Henderson or Herrera

Allen or Di Maria

Sterling or Mata

Suarez or Rooney

Sturridge or Falcao

I would like these opinions to be based on current ability and the ability to play the role allotted to them in a 442 diamond formation and not on potential or past ability.

Should either bring out good banter or just bias bile.

Looking forward to reading genuine replies.

Shappy

1.) Didn't you like the replays you got on the Manc page then Shappy?


2.) Suarez doesn't pay for LFC anymore.


3.) 03 Sep 2014 14:43:19
oh, I see what you did there. how about:

Migs/De Gea
Manquillo/Rafa
Lovren/Jones
Skrtel/Rojo
Moreno/Shaw
Gerrard/Blind
Henderson/Cleverley (I know you've moved him on, but we've moved Suarez on and you included him anyway)
Coutinho/Mata
Sterling/Young or Valencia or Janu
Studge/Rooney
Balotelli/RVP


4.) Why have u thrown in former players? and conveniently left out RVP? and conveniently match players?
how about matching sturridge vs rooney?
Sterling vs Di Marian etc?
Why Agger and Suarez are in there I don't know.

Flanno is a right back, sho why have you matched him vs shaw?

no 1 denies united has a great talent going forward in falcao, mata rvp, it's the squad balance that's completely off.


5.) First of all agger and suarez are no longer Liverpool players. If its based on last season nor are half of uniteds players. And we play as a team, while we are yet see how united's signings will gel. So sorry to say but I don't see any reason for your post


6.) 03 Sep 2014 14:47:24
I would much rather have our team any day rather than a team that has not won a competitive game for four months and not likely to win soon.


7.) 03 Sep 2014 14:52:47
degea, raffael just, shaw just, di maria, gerrard but in 6 moths i'd say different I think, suaraz, falcao, henderson just, sterling just,
IMO neither team will win the league this season despite spending just about the same amount of money
Liverpool may be happy with nearly winning again and that says it all
LVG will need the same amont of time as BR had to get his team playing the way he wants
Both are great coaches
Br's experience from last year will stand him in good stead its very hard to win your first ever trophy and the sooner he gets that monkey off his back the better but I don't see it being this season unless he gets good runs in the league or fa cup.
City showed Liverpool up a few weeks ago its just as well united don't have to play a really top team for 6 weeks as it gives them time to adjust somewhat
I think Liverpool may have better strength in deph in midfield but are worse off with attackers and neither squad inspire me with defenders although rojo and Lovern could both turn out to be very astute buys


8.) 03 Sep 2014 15:14:43
Afternoon mate . Good to see a sensible Man United fan
I will try to answer this without bias and request others not to get vile.Good Banter with any set of fans is always welcome

Just one thing I'll be using Sakho in place of agger as he was more important

Mignolet vs De Gea

Although de gea was pretty shaky at the start he has come on leaps and bounds.
Winner-De gea

Johnson vs Rafael

I don't rate both. But at least Rafael puts in some effort.
Winner-Rafael

Skrtel vs Jones

Both are noy very quick but good tacklers
Skrtel due to his aerial abilities wins it for me . plus he is not injury prone
Winner-Skrtel

Sakho vs Rojo

Sakho due to his leadership qualities and speed. Plus he is a beast
Winner-Sakho

Shaw vs Flanagan
Winner - Shaw because of his speed and attacking abilities

Gerrard vs Blind- Gerrard
his passing is way better and it's not as if blind is lightning quick

Henderson vs Herrera
Henderson just can't see what is the hype about Herrera. Not the best tackler and not a very good passer

Di Maria vs Allen
While I don't think di Maria os world class he is better than Allen

Sterling vs Mata
Sterling is way stronger quicker Mata much more skilly On presentform only I will go with SSterling

Falcao vs Sturridge
Pre injury Falcao was world class. Sturridge can eclipse him in a year or two
Winnet-Falcao

Suarez vs Rooney
No compatibilities here between a faulted genius and Overweight Overrated Overpriced Rooney
Winner hands down-Suarez

reds maybe shsppy is asking for a comparison of their current squad with ours last year's


9.) To be honest it's hard to answer the question as you've chosen to compare our team of last year against a team of this year that is full of untested player in the prem but i'll give it a go
Mingnolet or De Gea this is the hardest one for me to compare cause to be honest neither one of the 2 fills me with confidence they both have their weaknesses neither commands their box or comes off their line quick enough, both both are not very good with crosses but de gea's handling is probably a bit better. Both are terrific shot stoppers but I feel De Gea is still poor with shots from distance. really struggling to decide but i'll say De Gea just simply cause the fact he younger and should improve!
Johnson or Rafeal both these player have no place in either team at the moment neither one know the meaning of the term get back in position. Rafeal is quicker and get forward well but Johnson has probaly played more games in a season than Rafeal has in his career.


10.) De gea over migs
Falcao over ballotelli

That's it though.
I have compared your current squad over our current squad and that's who would get in our first 11.
Lallana over di Maria, sterling over everyone, flanno over rafa, Moreno over shaw, sakho and lovren over jones and rojo, Sturridge over Rooney.


11.) I think some of you may have missed the point. Last season you had a very good year and only just missed out on winning the league. I'm fully aware that you have made improvements to last years team.

I chose the players and that formation as they were the ones who played most in those positions. I'm aware that both Johnson and Flanagan played in both full back positions and that Flanagan is naturally a RB.

The point was I personally feel that this current Untied team on talent alone is superior the the team that finished second last year. Now I know that means very little for the most part as the way the team plays, how they all fit in together and the confidence and mentality of the players are just as important factors as the talent they have.

I just think people have been a little too quick to write off this United team, they certainly won't win the title this year and probably not next year either but I feel we are certainly in with a good shout of a top four place this year and depending how the signings settle and how we approach the next couple of transfer windows then we should at least be competing for the title next season.

So for me:

De Gea over Mignolet, Mignolet possibly cost you the title last season letting in too many silly goals and not organising the defence at set pieces. De Gea had an issue with long shots but that was a vision issue which has been sorted now, and he isn't great on crosses, he has massively improved though and makes better decisions on when to come for the ball and when to leave it.

Rafael over Johnson, Rafa has had at least one great season where as Johnson only manages the odd great game. Plus Rafa can still improve where as Johnson will only decline.

Skrtel or Jones, this is a tough one. Jones has age on his side and has been probably our best players so far this season but I don't think that enough to place him above Skrtel at this moment in time. Draw.

Agger or Rojo, to be fair this could also be Rojo vs Sahko, so as Agger is no longer at the club I will change it to Rojo vs Sahko. This I think will be a close one, and is very hard to judge as Rojo has no premier league experience. Sahko for me is slightly stronger but Rojo is probably faster. But there isn't much in it on either side. I will go with Sahko due to the fact he has proven he can handle the Premier league.

Shaw for me over Flanagan, although its a little unfair in the fact that Flanagan was playing most of the season out of position. But seeing as he couldn't oust the poor Johnson from RB it has to go to Shaw.

Gerrard or Blind, well for all round ability their is only ever going to be one winner. But who is the better defensive midfielder? certainly Blind is better at providing protection for the back four, but Gerrard is the more expansive passer. Seeing as Gerrard still makes you guy tick it has to be him. But its only a matter of time before Blind over takes him, not based on Blinds potential but purely because at some point Gerrards engine will give out. But atm its Gerrard.(through gritted teeth. lol)

Henderson vs Herrera is very interesting, and it will be intriguing to see how he settles in England. Neither are world class, but both can be important players for their teams. For me this is another Draw.

Di Maria vs Allen, well first off i'm totally shocked how so many people can truly think the Di Maria isn't world class. He was one of if not the key player for Real Madrid last season, to the point where he was said to be the best south american in La Liga last season. Personally I think that was a bit over the top. But he was the key player for the european champions and a world cup final team. Had he been fit for the world cup final things may have turned out differently. So I think this is clearly a no contest between the two. Di Maria every time.

Mata vs Sterling is also a very interesting battle. Sterling will be a great player maybe one of the top players in the world if he reaches his potential. But you have to be careful not to believe in the hype boyle that the english press love to build up. Atm he is a very good player with great potential, similar to how Ronaldo was at 19/20. Was Ronaldo the best player in the world at that time? No of course not, but he had the potential to be. In three or four years if he keeps improving as he is then he would be the clear winner in this contest. But we are basing it on current ability not potential. So I would personally just edge it to Mata seeing as he has proven himself over several seasons. So Mata wins(Just).

Rooney vs Suarez, I chose to pair these two up as they were both often referred to as each teams key/best player. Now Suarez may well be a cheat, a biter and potentially a racist(although probably more likely a wind up merchant). We are not judging his character, beside Rooney is hardly whiter than white. We are basing this on talent and on that alone Suarez if the out and out winner by a mile.

Falcao vs Sturridge, I like Sturridge as a player, I think he has found the right club to get the best out of him. But its god damn Falcao, probably the best No.9 in the world. I've gone with him over RvP purely because I think LvG will pick him over LvG. But to be fair even if I was to put Sturridge up against RvP he would still come second, RvP is the dutch all time leading goal scorer, and let's be honest its not like Holland have been a team that has had poor strikers through out their history. Up until Falcao joined the Prem RvP was the best out and out No.9 in the league(Suarez played better in the space between the attack and the midfield where he had the space to use his ability to set up as well as score chances). So Falcao wins.

So that's six to United and three to Liverpool, with two being a draw. If I'm generous then I could potentially call Mata/Sterling a draw which makes it 5-3 with three drawn.

So on paper my argument is that this United team is stronger than the team that finished second last season. Maybe they deserve a little more consideration.


12.) Reet,
I know its your opinion but I really can't beleive youve just said henderson is better than herrera! Herrera is a better passer, better dribbler and better in tight spaces. His vision is exceptional as well. I rate henderson but thd only thing he has over herrera is his pace and physique and to an extent his tackling. Herrera tore apart Barca and madrid last year and along with koke will be an essential part of spains team for the next few years


13.) 03 Sep 2014 16:34:14
Hard to answer mate seeing as you've only chosen 5 (6 if u include Allen) of our starting line up, and asked us to match them against united players who play in different positions. Nice try at getting some good natured banter going though. Just be better


14.) Sorry got jumped on by my child

I'll go Johnson over Rafeal But I feel both are overpaid waste of spaces on a football pitch
Agger or Rojo it's hard to compare a bloke who i've only see play left back with a bloke that plays center back. Rojo admitingly I thought looked great at the world cup showed good strengh and pace but god help him if your going to play him in that back 4 you've suggested. Agger is another who has had to many injuries and I feel if he could have stayed fit he would have been one of the best center backs around. fir experience and not knowing enough of Rojo I go Agger though I believe Rojo is going to be a good addition
Skrtel or Jones. There was a time I wished we ran the race to sign Jones he seemed to have everything you would want in a center half but I feel he has got no better and looks like uniteds new oshea or phill neville. Skrtel has never filled me with confidence his lack of pace and constant shirt pulling is costly but he does seem to pop up with a goal in the big games. I would probably still rather Jones though just for the fact he is young and can play a number of roles
Flanagan or Shaw. I would rather be comparing him to Moreno here but as you asked so kindly.I think Shaw is the worst bit of business united done this season I really don't think he will give you anything that Evra wouldn't have. He had 1 assist to his name last season no one else was prepared to pay the money Southampton wanted. United have payed the most money he will ever be worth! Falno is everything in a footballer most players ain't he has fought to get where he did last season and played his heart out every game in his unfavored position to make sure he stayed in the side.He doesn't give you going forward what most full backs will but he'll work harder than most but I feel he will still struggle for a place in the side this season. for that reason I go Shaw but I would have gone Moreno for value for money
Gerrard or Blind. Blind will be a utility player again for you he will play left back center back and center mid. Liverpool fans are asking if Gerrard should still be in our starting 11 I still feel he would walk in to uniteds midfield. I go Gerrard Blind looks a useful player but will never give a side what Gerrard has
henderson or Herrera. Henderson like Flano never gave up when everyone doubted him he is such a vital player in the diamond system and makes it tick with his countless running comparing him to Herrera is hard they are 2 completely different players. Herrera won't cover the distance that Henderson will. he's a good passer of the ball but so is Henderson. I feel Herrera will give a lot of fouls away this season as he adapts to the pace of the prem. Time will tell with Herrera but workrate alone i'll have Henderson all day
Allen or Di Maria. Why not Coutinho? Di Maria like Shaw baffles me if your going to be playing him center mid it's a bit like going in to hospital needing a knee operation and coming out with a boob job. it looks better but ain't solved the problem. sound stupid but i'd rather allen center mid than Di aria but clearly we all know Di Maria is the better player
Sterling or Mata. I love mata as a footballer he has fantastic vision and times his runs well in the box but when the chips are down and you need him to work hard off the ball he ain't there for you. Sterling is the best player I have seen come out of our academy and any other academy for a long time he just keeps getting better and better and is going to be the poster boy for England very soon. There is no way any man his size should have the strength he has. He is not the complete player but has everything in his locker and if he keeps improving his game at the rate he does the world is his oyster. I go Sterling over Mata he's quicker stronger works harder younger seems more hungry
Suarez or Rooney. When Rooney was 18 I said players like him only come around every 20 years I thought he was that good. It's such a shame from an English point of view i've only see that dynamic forward player who would pick up the ball and run with it turn in to a player who thinks he.s a number 10 who just seems to slow up play with his 40 yard cross field balls. He's lucky to still be playing at a club like united he doesn't turn it on week in week out like other world class players do, and if he was playing anywhere else he would look half the player he is like he does for England. I don't even need to talk about Suarez he wins this hands down he scored more goals in 1 world cup game than Rooney has in 3 world cups.
Sturridge or Falcao. This is harder than it should be Falcao's record speaks for itself But everywhere he has been he's been the main man where everything is played through him he takes all the free kicks every penalty. Now he's at a club where he's not going to take everything will hos goal record be as impressive as 36 in 51 without being a free kick or penalty tacker playing second fiddle. Is he fully over his injury has he last a yard or 2 of pace. reputation says Falcao Head says Sturridge

Sorry again the post are split and the time between the 2. my daughter picks her moments to use me as a climbing frame!!
I've done my best here to be as honest and fair as I can I just can't help thinking united this year have gone out a bought a load of over priced polly filler to fill the cracks when they really needed a good plasterer in


15.) Well will get the answer for that in about 9 months, won't we?


16.) You say 'no bias opinions ' yet your post is completely biased. Using the players you want to try and get some upper hand.

How can you compare Allen and Di maria? And why didn't you include Coutinho instead of Allen and compare him to a more 'like for like' such as Mata. Were he has been much better than Mata has been since he arrived at United

Sorry but that post is complete nonsense.


17.) Shappy

You're living in dream world.

De gea yes
Johnson and Rafael are both rubbish
Skrtel over jones
Agger over rojo
Moreno over shaw
Gerrard over blind
Henderson over Herrera
Di Maria yes
Sterling over mata
Sturridge over Rooney
Falcao yeah


18.) So your saying Uniteds current team is better than our team last year?
I really doubt it, mata better than sterling? Lol
You should compare your squad this year to your rivals this year. That's what really matters mate. Even of your squad is better than ours last year it still doesn't change the fact Liverpool, Chelsea, city, arsenal and arguably evertons squad is stronger than uniteds this year so you will again finish outside the top 4. Plus your manager is a control freak and arguably not as good as any of the other top 5 managers, I know you think highly of him over there but he's unproven in the prem.


19.) 03 Sep 2014 19:52:34
I just think that the Salford boys are trying to brush there poor form under the carpet. If must be a delight to watch how good Liverpool are now for them.


20.) If u match up Suarez- falcao and sturr- Rooney. am sure your pick would be different. But that's not the point, last season both Chelsea and arsenal had better overall squad than us, but we finished above them. Team chemistry and confidence have a major role , which in my opinion your team doesn't have.


21.) Actually we had a better squad than Chelsea and arsenal last year that's why we finished above them.
You could argue they looked better on paper but we looked better on the pitch and in the league table.


22.) You can put it anyway you like, but the some of the individual players is NOT all that is required to do well.

Seeing as your team is down in the sheep, I guess things like this: subjective comparison of players is all you have to console yourself.


 

 

 

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11 Jul 2018 12:07:41
Why is no one asking the obvious question? Why is Shaqiri available for only 12-14m? Nearly all players go for at least slightly more than their worth in the current market. So if he is available for that much it must be because no one else in interested in signing him.

Also I would seriously question the logic of bringing in a player "for cover" who has a notorious bad attitude especially when he isn't first choice. Surely its obvious that it will end badly.

Also he is known for being lazy and he lacks drive to do the defensive work, how will that fit into Klopps system?

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11 Mar 2018 21:46:10
This is hilarious, I came on here to ask a serious question and have a little banter.

To those who have admitted the hypocrisy of singing to players that they will always support them only to slay them off 90 minutes later I thank you.

To those either unprepared to accept that or unable to grasp the concept thank you and goodnight. X.

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11 Mar 2018 21:30:30
Hey, all fans are as bad as eachother when it comes to slagging off their own players.

However, only one group of fans sing that they will always support those players before slagging them off.

The point is anyone who has ever stood in Anfield and sung "you'll never walk alone" then gone on to slay those players off is a massive hypocrite and a lair.

Some United fans have booed Smalling and many other United players. They just didn't sing to them that they would always support them beforehand.

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11 Mar 2018 19:13:25
Boomerynwa, We don't consider beating Liverpool as a cup final, we've been to three cup finals in the last three years and won them all. So we consider cup finals cup finals. You know the ones where you get a trophy.

I'll hold m hands up I did come on here with half an eye on a fishing trip, many of you have been kindly obliging. However, I am asking a serious question, and one many of you have avoided answering.

So I'll ask you directly as someone who has "ynwa" in your sign-off, do you think it is hypocritical to sing to your players that you will always support them, to then go slag them off 90 minutes later on the internet and social media?

If you want to slag them off then fine, but don't lie to them and sing them songs of how you will always support them.

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11 Mar 2018 18:52:51
In Istanbul, if you think your being polite calling someone an "absolute loser" then me and you have very different ideas on manners. Lol.

If you honestly believe no Liverpool supporters would venture into the United page had you won yesterday then your the one in denial.

I came on here and asked a genuine question. How can you sing about always supporting eachother then come on here and rip chunks out of your players? How can you not see the hypocrisy in that?

Still waiting for a real reply.

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11 Mar 2018 18:24:17
Well Salah mate you guys would be the experts on not winning the EPL. lol. If we finish higher than we did last season then that is progress, if its enough is up for debate. We added a couple of trophies to our cabinet last season and we are still in two cups this season with a manager who has won more cup competitions than any other manager currently still managing. So anything can happen yet.

I would like to hear your opinions though on singing "you'll never walk alone" then coming onto a site like this and do nothing but slag the whole team off, especially a young 18 year old homegrown lad.

Shappy