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12 Oct 2017 12:31:42
Huge game Coming up. Interested to get everyone's thoughts on rye striker situation. I posted on numerous occasions in the summer that Liverpool should not only be strengthening in goal and centre back but also up top. The lack of a proven goalscorer has so far been our downfall this season. The amount of chances we create is unreal. Wingers will weigh in with 10-15 goals but it's the go to striker who can be relied upon to bag one or 2 that is sadly lacking. Sturridge just will not recover his form from 4 years ago, solanke is learning his trade and firmino, although I'm a fan is a number 10. This needs to be addressed in the next couple of windows.

Aside from that it's been obvious that Robertson is not a Klopp signing. Moreno has done ok but continues to be a liability. Robertson is equally as good going forward but with a much better final ball. Prob is their is no striker to get on the end of them. look at our competition! Kane, aguero, morata, lukaku.

Redroon

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool added a striker in the summer in Solanke and have enough on the books that Origi went out on loan and Danny Ings is being looked at because he cannot get a game at Liverpool. So adding another striker is not a priority for the club immediately unless they are going to move players on.}


1.) 12 Oct 2017 15:23:38
It shouldn't only be down to the striker/ s to get in the box to be on the end of the crosses,

The box to box men have to get in as well rather than waiting for a knock down for a shot from outside the box,

Ox put a header over the bar the last time out, he missed but at least he had made the run to be in the posistion to make the header,


2.) 12 Oct 2017 15:54:25
We have been missing what are effectively open goals. That's down to form and a mental block. Natural strikers have that too. We'll get past it and be back to scoring five a game without the needs to buy.


3.) 12 Oct 2017 16:20:19
Robertson is the one who's final ball is not quite good enough yet, not moreno. Of course Robertson is a klopp signing. He sat dodn with moreno and told the lad he was buying a lb in the summer. Robertson first thought is to cross the ball whereas moreno tries to look for a pass. It is next to pointless whipping in cross after cross as we are hardly an Ariel threat. I think this is why robbo hasn't played much yet. Klopp is still training him. And moreno has been pretty good.


4.) 12 Oct 2017 16:26:06
Superred- neither is good enough
Even the player Roberteno combining the best of both would not be good enough for lfc.


5.) 12 Oct 2017 16:35:21
If you look at robertsons crosses, they rarely require someone with an ariel presence. They are more often than not low whipped balls. Perfect for players crashing the goal. Part of the problem is the 2 different styles of delivery. Moreno looks to the top of the box. Robertson delivers to the six yard box. If we stick with one of the 2. Players in the box will know where to make the run. I like both btw. Consistency is key when confidence is not as high as it should be.


6.) 12 Oct 2017 17:01:48
I agree it should not be down to the striker to get on the end of things. Problem is we don't have one! Wingers will weigh in with goals but it is a clinical finisher we need. Ed, we brought in Solanke for the future surely a club our size cannot be content with a false 9, injury ruined liability, a youngster just starting out and a guy who hasn't played a competitive game in 2 years!

In relation to Robertson the majority of his deliveries are excellent and whipped right in where it hurts. Moreno's is average at best.

{Ed002's Note - Plus Origi who the club sent out on loan because Klopp's preference is for Firmino and Sturridge. If they were to see a couple - Ings and Firmino say, then there would be an argument to add another, but it is impractical to keep adding players in a position where there are plenty already. The efforts should be made to add a centre back in January and that should be the focus. If anyone were to leave in January then they might also need replacing, but I rather doubt Coutinho will go before the summer, but perhaps the club will look to get a return on Emre Can - we will see.}


7.) 12 Oct 2017 21:08:45
I disagree with Ed002 about adding a centre half in January. I think we need two. Or even three.


8.) 12 Oct 2017 22:44:46
Yeah Rigsby but what are the chances of that.

{Ed002's Note - the chance of one is reasonable.}


9.) 12 Oct 2017 23:01:10
I think we'll get one Ed002 mate, but not 2-3, I'd expect us to get one in January and maybe another in the summer. Well, we can only hope anyway. The only thing is, I really can't see us getting VVD (not in January anyway) so who the hell do we go for. Who's available and who would want to come. It's one of them, there's not many top quality center backs out there, not available ones anyway. That is concerning.

{Ed002's Note - Stefan de Vrij.}


10.) 12 Oct 2017 23:51:39
Has the tapping started ed?

{Ed002's Note - Sorry, do you want me to delete this thread. No one asks about transfers anymore because people like you just want it all deleted. great job.}


11.) 13 Oct 2017 11:00:34
hi ed, do you know if liverpool have interest in Stafan De Vrij? as you have mentioned a centre back should be the priority. i am not mistaken his contract is almost up and his club might be will to get a return in Jan?

{Ed002's Note - Lazio's Stefan de Vrij has been the subject of interest from a number of sides. Chelsea considered him in the summer of 2017 but were concerned by his injury history. Inter Milan and Juventus also looked to de Vrij but Lazio were not open to a sale to an Italian side. Manchester United opted for Victor Lindelof over a number of players they considered including de Vrij. Arsenal considered the player but thought the price to be an issue. The player continues to stall over a new contract at Lazio and unless they give in to his demand for a low termination clause, then his contract will run down. Liverpool could be tempted by a January move to avoid any sort of summer frenzy but Klopp needs to overcome his banality in recruiting defenders - else he might opt to hang on for Benedikt Howedes and hope Juventus don't take up their option, even potentially letting him go in January.}


12.) 13 Oct 2017 11:16:54
Thanks for the update Ed002.


13.) 13 Oct 2017 11:39:47
thanks ed002. much appreciated. don't know much about him. but it does seem that its top teams who have looked at him so fingers crossed he would be a good addtiotion of we persued the option.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


14.) 13 Oct 2017 12:16:32
Ed02, did we not bid for De Vrij this past summer or did I get that wrong?

{Ed002's Note - discussed only - no offer.}


15.) 13 Oct 2017 13:50:30
Thanks, Ed. On another note, is he still being discussed as an option for say, Jan or and is the club looking to bring in a CB in Jan if possible? Thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}


16.) 14 Oct 2017 01:38:25
Sorry Ed, have I missed something regarding your comment, No offence intended,
It was meant as banter,


 

 

01 Sep 2017 14:17:23
Just watched Arsenal game again. All 4 goals were counter attacks. We are tailor made for hitting teams on the break especially Ones as unorganised as Arsenal.

Let's hope we can start to unlock the defences of the lesser teams and manage games better than we did last season. Lost count of the amount of times we scored first during the last 2 seasons. Let's hope Klopp can use the stronger bench to effect games late on so we can stop dropping stupid points.

The squad is not perfect but it's heading in the right direction . Let support the team, hope for a bit and luck and who knows how far we can go.

Thanks to Eds and Macca 😝👌🏻.

Redroon

1.) 01 Sep 2017 15:36:08
You can only beat what's in front of you Redroon, it was clearly the best strategy in that game. Don't forget we got a nice 1-0 against Palace the week before, a game we might have drawn. 3 games and 2 clean sheets is not a bad return, and while Arsenal didn't exactly help themselves the other day, from being there I think we forced them into that performance.


 

 

31 Aug 2017 16:32:44
Whatever happens today let's not get too carried away. Regardless if coutinho goes or not we have a good squad with several youngsters (Arnold, Gomez and solanke) ready for first team football. Yes there are improvements to be made in goal and at centre back but Rome isn't built in a day. I would rather wait and it a top target in than settle for 2nd best. Our CL group draw helps too as we can juggle the squad ensuring the first 11 freshened up for league and cup games.

I don't get all the negativity! Yes VVD and an attacking midfielder would be great but if we don't sign them now we can go back in Jan or next summer.

Roll on Man City game!

Redroon

1.) 31 Aug 2017 16:36:58
I'm with you, Redroon. Regardless of what happens, we are a mun last season, we have a stronger squad and all positions (bar CB) are either covered or improved. We have 3 more points and 4 more goals than last season at this same point. There are too many positives out there to start having a moan about a CB coming in or not. If Cou stays, he will be dealt with internally like Suarez was and that should be that. City is next.


2.) 31 Aug 2017 16:41:43
Agree Redroon, Ox and Salah effectively fix the departure from Couts from the wing, and Mane doesn't need to Afcon this year. In midfield we have same squad as last year except Can is a year older and better, and Grujic too, plus Milner can play there now, with Keita signed up for next year.

In defense we all know CB is an issue, but Robertson gives us more options at LB, and TAA and Gomez at RB.

Yes I think VVD and Lemar would be great signings if we still get them today but we're hardly in a crisis so patience for the right players is a bit of a luxury we can afford. Rather the right player in Jan than the wrong player now if our first choices not available.


3.) 31 Aug 2017 16:55:20
We have had several transfer windows to address the defence and failed, this window unfortunately has been no different!


4.) 31 Aug 2017 17:01:47
With you there, SG but Cou was supposed to play the no 10 role hence, why Salah was signed cos Klopp wanted another winger anyway. Ox will not fill Cou's boots in CM which is why Klopp wanted both he and Lemar as Lemar is Cou's real replacement.


 

 

30 Aug 2017 11:36:05
Still hopeful on VVD yes MACCA said Tuesday and it's frustrating but these things are complicated. Let's home we can get him and another couple over the line.

Thanks Eds and MACCA for all your input!

Redroon

 

 

25 Aug 2017 17:53:09
I'd be well happy if we sign Ox. Unlike most on here I believe he will be a good option for the middle and add pace and ability to beat a man in there which we are lacking. Wini also has this ability but seems to big and choose when to use it. Ox is more dymanic and will be a great Option given the lack of depth in the squad. It helps that he can play wide also and give another option to Mane and Salah. Just hope we can get this deal and some others down! Particularly at centre back!

YNWA.

Redroon

1.) 25 Aug 2017 18:05:26
Chelsea are favourites according to Sly.


2.) 25 Aug 2017 18:11:15
I am certainly willing to let him prove himself as should be done. Good versatility is probably one of the key factors in Klopp liking him.


3.) 25 Aug 2017 18:12:23
Wouldn't be believing Sky!


4.) 25 Aug 2017 18:29:25
It's been on the Skysports sidebar for 6 weeks that we're the favourites to buy the Ox. They're just trying to people to put bets on. Don't believe them.


5.) 25 Aug 2017 18:48:04
I don't trust sly, but Ed said he's coming so they must be wright!

{Ed001's Note - he would prefer to join Liverpool.}


6.) 25 Aug 2017 19:11:30
Why Liverpool over Chelsea? Just interested to hear your view Ed. Is it game time? Cash? Or just believes in Klipperty.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know.}


7.) 25 Aug 2017 19:16:48
I'd prefer him to sign for Chelsea. Don't rate him.


8.) 25 Aug 2017 20:50:39
Isnt he a liverpool fan.


 

 

 

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05 Jul 2017 10:23:18
Sakho is poor. Decent in a team that had to defend deep for the majority of games. Poor on the ball, injury prone and not good enough for Liverpool. I would see past it if he ever had 20 games plus consistent run in the team but he hasn't done that in 4 years. Also makes at least one glaring error a game.

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12 Oct 2017 17:01:48
I agree it should not be down to the striker to get on the end of things. Problem is we don't have one! Wingers will weigh in with goals but it is a clinical finisher we need. Ed, we brought in Solanke for the future surely a club our size cannot be content with a false 9, injury ruined liability, a youngster just starting out and a guy who hasn't played a competitive game in 2 years!

In relation to Robertson the majority of his deliveries are excellent and whipped right in where it hurts. Moreno's is average at best.

Redroon

{Ed002's Note - Plus Origi who the club sent out on loan because Klopp's preference is for Firmino and Sturridge. If they were to see a couple - Ings and Firmino say, then there would be an argument to add another, but it is impractical to keep adding players in a position where there are plenty already. The efforts should be made to add a centre back in January and that should be the focus. If anyone were to leave in January then they might also need replacing, but I rather doubt Coutinho will go before the summer, but perhaps the club will look to get a return on Emre Can - we will see.}


 

 

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01 Sep 2017 11:23:59
Milner.

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31 Aug 2017 16:50:50
Here here.

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31 Aug 2017 16:50:34
Yes given that we will have made a substantial profit in our overall dealings and have a Better squad thanks to the emergence of Arnold and reemergence of Gomez.

Whilst I'm a huge Coutinho fan he starts a season well, goes missing for 3-4 months in the middle and finishes well.

I'd love sturridge to get a bit of luck and remain fit too.

At least we are making money back on players now after years of over spending and Mis management. If Klopp can learn a few lessons from last season then I think we can have a right go in the league and CL.



YNWA.

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25 Aug 2017 22:17:55
With a base of can and hendo he would be gown the freedom to make things happen. your judging him on. Couple of games. Narrow minded springs to mind.

Redroon