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21 May 2015 05:16:31
United fan here in peace.
Just read about our inquiry for Sterling in the papers today. In my opinion there must be very little to it, especially after the signing of Depay. We don't need a sterling type of player and if we do go for an attacking mid/wide forward it will be Bale.
Don't read too much into it, must be the agent leaking info or the club doing so to try to prepare ground for him leaving by trying to get the fans onboard.
1.) 21 May 2015 07:29:58
Yeah I am sure Sterling would leave us to go to a small club like you.
2.) 21 May 2015 07:45:17
Or someone in United just enjoys digging deeper in our wounds for a bit more LFC humilliation. There seems to be no denial that they approaced Liverpool about it and were rejected. Obviously no on in United who approached Liverpool ever thought they woudl get a positive answer but it feels like they enjoyed adding to the liverpool misery party.
3.) 21 May 2015 07:50:19
Good.
Let's hope it's true As it will bring on a juicy bidding war to line our pockets.
I'm not bothered where he goes ad long as as we are rewarded handsomely.
4.) 21 May 2015 08:07:50
Who cares? If he leaves he's no longer of any interest to me. If he goes to Man Utd or Timbuktu badgers, it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
5.) 21 May 2015 08:55:39
I don't really see an issue either, plus United have some decent enough players we could strike up a deal for. I don't believe anything the media say really tbh, and think this Sterling business has probably all been blown out of proportion anyway, but as Ron says it doesn't really matter to me where he ends up, he's not the be all and end all of our team. Let's just concentrate on ourselves and hope the owners pull us out of this mess.
6.) 21 May 2015 10:55:26
Sterling to United. Lol.
Red Rum
26 Apr 2015 05:11:27
Manchester United fan here in peace.
I have followed your site relatively closely over the last year and am well aware about the views on Rodgers, the transfer committee, players etc.
To me Rodgers seems like a guy whose heart is in the right place but he simply does not have the ability to learn and adapt and is especially poor with the media. He simply cannot see 2 or 3 moves ahead, a great example being your game against us, when your system should have been changed just a game before, as it had been found out. Also, the way we would use Fellaini was obvious, yet he did nothing to counter it. Contrast that with Jose, whose ruthless pragmatism meant he put Zouma on Fellaini and nullified him. Jose started with a "draw would be ok" mentality, shored up the defense and won the game 1-0. Rodgers seems incapable of doing that.
The recruitment policy at Liverpool has been a bit baffling. I think last summer with Champions League football and the Liverpool name and history as a pull, a mentality of "we will only buy if the right player is available, who is significantly better than what we already have" should have been in place. Yet the only top player I saw Liverpool go for was Sanchez. The club should have been prepared to pay the top wages and attract the top players, instead the likes of Lambert, Lallana, Markovic were bought who were mere side steps and just adding to positions in which the team was already strong. Rodgers seems to have made Lovren a worse player and Balotelli. well I don't want to even touch that topic.
My personal view is that Lallana, Lambert, Balotelli and Markovic add nothing to the team that already existing players at the club don't and neither have the potential to be world class that justified their purchase. Also, Liverpool should have explored the possibility of bringing Xabi Alonso back (I don't know if they did or didn't). Would have made a huge difference I think.
Looking forward, tactical blunders, poor recruitment, inability to learn, and a failure to achieve targets means Rodgers has to go, and perhaps the transfer committee needs to be seriously looked at as well. This will be a make or break summer for Liverpool. If there is any chance of getting Klopp, the club should do whatever it can to get him. The important thing is, the club shouldn't make another side step and get another Rodgers-esque manager. That would be disastrous. Perhaps an experienced manager with a cool and calm head could put the club back on track.
Success doesn't happen in a day and Liverpool supporters should not expect a turnaround in a day. I think it will take 3 years at least to repair the damage that has been done. Before anyone tells me United bounced back in a season, the situations are different. United are a different animal financially and can spend huge sums, while Liverpool have bought poorly and put themselves in trouble with FFP. There is a need to accept that mistakes have been done and let go of players who aren't required, perhaps for cut prices, just to get them off the books.
There are still some really talented and hardworking players at the club and in general, its a decent squad. The defense should be addressed as top priority, its criminal the amount of goals you let through.
Looking at the larger picture, a good look at the way Juventus have built themselves back to the top, or the way Chelsea are run and how they carefully get their pieces in order one by one, would be a good place to start in the new way to run the club from this summer.
Good Luck.
1.) 26 Apr 2015 08:08:47
Excellent post. 100% agree.
2.) 26 Apr 2015 08:14:31
Re the defence should be addresses and the 'criminal' amount of goals. We condeced 36 goals this season, same as City, only five more than you. Last year we conceded 50 all season, so we did improve our defence. I didn't check but my guess is that we also had more clean sheets this year as well. The problem was primairly in our forward game. Last year we scored 100 goals, this year we will probably finish with 50 or so, exactly half. Yesterday was a good example of where our problem is.
I am afraid we are stuck at the moment. Our woners which I appriciate overall want to do everything 'right', organised, not kneeJerk reaction, long term thinkin and all this. But in top European football you have to be ruthless at times. This is exactly what you learned last season, brining Moyce and talking about 'the United way' and all this rubbish until you relaised where it takes you and just showed him the boot with no sentiments. If the United owners or Abramovich or the CIty owners would be in the position of our owners they would sack BR today and try to brink Klopp. Our owners don't have the ruthlessness or money to do it. So we are stuck.
3.) 26 Apr 2015 08:21:50
To be fair you make some good points about Rogers, but let's not forget 8 weeks ago your fans were screaming to sack lvg and that if it wasn't for De Gea you would be a midtable team. Your manager went more direct and found a system that suits your squad. I still believe our defensive players are better than yours, it's just our managers failure to drill them right.
4.) 26 Apr 2015 08:26:15
Very good post redfaith. I totally agree with you about Brendan, he'd have us all believe he is a tactical genius but has been outsmarted by the likes of Tim Sherwood
lovren is a bit of a mystery, I was delighted when we bought him but as you say, he seems to of gone backwards at us. A few regular posters seem to think that playing with skyrtl has done him no favours at all.
markovic is the only one I disagree with you on. I think he is a player who needs confidence and being constantly played out of position and then getting subbed all the time is destroying what little confidence he has. I think he's got all the tools to be a very good player.
Good luck(not too much!) for next season. Cheers
5.) 26 Apr 2015 08:27:00
Some good points, though I disagree about how we need another three years to build a competent side to challenge. This excuse has been used far too often by managers like Rodgers and it doesn't wash with me or most other fans here. We do have a good squad, couple of experienced players to it and a competent manager who is more concerned with success on the pitch rather than deflecting blame the whole season,a nd we will have regular CL football. To succeed in CL though, we might need to spend the big bucks, but that is for the future.
6.) 26 Apr 2015 10:58:58
The thing is though, we don't have a good squad, how many of our players would get into the chelsea or arsenal squads? i'd say two/three max. Our defence is poor bar sakho who would be brilliant with the right coaching, midfield is weak, lucas is brilliant on his day, but half the time he's either injured or non existent, Hendo can turn up, but half the time does nothing really, can is constantly being played in CB where he has been found out on numerous occasions. Coutinho is a different class to the rest of the team when he decides to turn up, haven't seen someone with his technicality for years. Sterling and studge are good but ones almost always injured and the other can't shoot. There are many poor players in our team and why oh why lambert, toure, ballo and borini are in the squad I will never know. By the way Enrique and manquillo, they spend more time playing pranks on eachother and playing table tennis on lfctv than they do playing bloody football!! What's the point in having them?!
7.) 26 Apr 2015 11:34:16
I agree with everything, great post, but i don't believe brendans heart is in the right
place. Not anymore.
For the first two seasons, we evolved, we changed style and formation, rodgers worked hard to improve players and achieved this. I don't care what anybody else says about rodgers but the side that nearly won us the league last season was his side, he improved those players and plyed them in a coherent team. He gave suarez the platform for success, not the other way around.
I think it all changed in the chelsea game. We only needed a draw but he insisted we were going to win. His arrogance had consumed him.
Follow that up this season. We revert back to the tactics and play style that he tried to implement upon his arrival that failed us. He bought a load of players in what can only be described as a football manager vanity exercise - young and technically gifted, but never what the team actually needed. Rodgers then sticks with this formation for months because he believes after the success of last season he can do what he wants.
Theres also the various distractions in his life, which have worsened as his tenure continues. The teeth whitening, the rumoured nights out on the town, the housing situation with gerrard, and of course, the whole situation with his wife and mistress.
This all shows his arrogance has consumed him and he is not the same man he was when he joined the club. As far as i'm concerned, his arrogance clearly shows he thinks he is bigger than the club. For that reason alone, i'd like him gone.
8.) 26 Apr 2015 12:29:51
Excellent post Redfaith.
3 years to get to the top, but only a few matches to turn things around.
Look what Tim Sherwood has done at Aston Villa.
How much better with a real top class manager.
9.) 26 Apr 2015 15:00:15
Great post. I noticed the same thing and Everton have figured that out and have so far, nullified Fellaini by putting Barry on him hence, shielding the central defence, allowing it to nullify Rooney. Any fan could see that like you and many just did but the genius was too busy massaging his own ego, he was getting whipped tactically by other managers including Sherwood who is average at best. His arrogance will be his downfall and has been his downfall which cost us the PL and cost us this year. Oh, did I also mention he is a media minefield?
06 Jun 2017 11:45:51
United fan here in peace.
Just a quick follow up @Ed001
Aren't Liverpool and Klopp already in hot water over a previous illegal approach made for a player? (Can't remember which but do remember Ed002 mentioning something)
This could turn ugly pretty quick for Liverpool if there is any truth in Southampton's claims.
{Ed001's Note - yes though this is very different.}
02 May 2016 08:58:25
United fan here in peace.
Although I agree with Ed001 that they were different players, I would have had Scholes in my team if it was an either or situation.
I think both of their long range hollywood passing and goalscoring abilities are on par.
But where Scholes edges it for me is in his short intricate passing to break open tight defenses that sit back. The tiki taka kind of Barcelona passing, the little flick over the top of the center backs etc.
Also Scholes' ability to slow the game down or quicken it up at will was superior to Gerrard's imo. Scholes kept possession much better than Gerrard I think and brought his teammates a lot more into play.
I agree that their tackling and rather lack of discipline was more down to coaching and tactics rather than their own inability. Just look at Scholes in the season's Queroz was number 2 and was in charge of tactics, Scholes was very disciplined in terms of positioning and interceptions and chose his forward runs almost to perfection.
Gerrard was a superb player, a better leader, great box to box ability but Scholes edges it. I am always left wondering what could have been for that talented England team if Scholes, Gerrard, Rooney were used with the right tactics.