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22 Dec 2016 12:39:59
Talk about LFC looking at Gabigol (Gabriel Barbosa) - Ed would you mind shedding some light on what's gone wrong for him at Inter?

They spent a lot on money to sign him in the summer and yet he hasn't even played 90 mins yet. Was it due to the change of manager or is he simply not good enough?

Thanks and have a great Christmas holidays fella!

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{Ed002's Note - He is not getting any game time and that has made him unhappy. Is is young and in a new environment and things are unlikely to change. A number of sides have shown an interest in taking him on loan - Palmeiras, Sao Paulo, Santos and Fluminense (but none from Brazil could afford to buy him nor pay his wages), Marseille, Las Palmas and Leicester. Wagner Ribeiro was in England and did speak to another English side about him. Liverpool has not spoken with his agent nor Inter about him at this time.}


 

 

02 Oct 2015 21:46:40
I can already feel the ominous dissapointment on the site growing if/when De Boer is brought in.

A few of the pros that come to mind are:
- he's a winner (titles - albeit in a lesser league)
- European experience (champions league - although never further than second round I believe)
- Able to coach a team well under a club structure which delegates transfers and 'philosophy of play' to other staff
- Success working with younger players

Just a few that came to me

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12 Aug 2014 11:40:58
Hi Ed002, based on player valuations given by their respective clubs, which of Icardi and Bony is most viable? Admittedly they both seem to be pricey.

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{Ed002's Note - I can only guess, but Bony I would think.}


 

 

29 Jul 2014 21:31:07
Eds after reading the rumour re Lucas leaving on loan to Napoli, I wanted to ask would the club seriously consider a loan offer for him? I hope we wouldn't be that naive.

We are not blessed with too many defensive midfielders and although some posters might say Lucas isn't the best there is, he is a good player and I think we need to be careful not to dismantle our whole team by adding in too many new players.

If a good offer came in that the club felt it simply couldn't refuse then that's different, but a loan deal? That would be stupid I think.

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{Ed001's Note - last I heard the club were not interested in a loan move.}


 

 

30 Apr 2014 18:04:18
Hi Ed would it be fair to say that if Liverpool bought in a player that could play left back and left centre back e.g Rojo - Agger would be leaving?

Personally, I'd rather promote Smith - Flannaghan has shown how beneficial this can be!

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{Ed002's Note - I think there is a good chance Agger will go.}


1.) Sahko is #1 choice cb, in my opinion, with teams rarely playing two lefties, it would seem agger is going! Skrtel is also younger, slightly, and has had a good season! I think rodgers will focus on him, trying to tidy up his marking and decision making, I would not be surprised to see them two as first choice next season!


2.) Smiths one appearance merely illustrated he is way off the standard required right now. The most out of depth debut I can remember. He needs to build his confidence on loan before being given another opportunity.


3.) Everyone wrote off Flanagan too - myself and even ed001 included! I'm not saying he's ready to be first choice but he should be promoted to playing for our first team I think.


4.) Perhaps a year long loan is what Brad Smith needs now.


 

 

 

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01 Feb 2017 11:16:15
Talking point of the game for me is our fullbacks.

JK asks his fullbacks to get very wide and provide a lot of his teams width. However in Clyne and Milner we don't have players capabale for that.

Both fullbacks just come inside. To be fair to Milner he comes inside and at least puts a cross in. Clyne cuts inside and has no left foot so just passes inside. He really offers no width.

He heavily relies on Mane to provide him the wide option as he cannot/ won't beat his man and go for the byline.

It's hurting us and needs fixing. Is TAA the answer? I'm not sure if he's ready defensively, he already offers more offensively though than Clyne.

Milner has had a really good go at left back and should be recognised for that but a left back coming in for Moreno to offer a left footed option there is needed.

Thoughts?

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1.) 01 Feb 2017 11:55:23
Yeah largely agree, I posted something similar further down, a lot is being asked from the full backs I feel, Mane at least brings real width down one side, this will help a lot, I don't think one full back being asked to be a wing back in this system is a major problem but both doesn't seem to work.


2.) 01 Feb 2017 12:27:40
I think that's an incorrect assessment, the full backs are always very wide unless we they are cautious about the counter attack.

The whole problem is Milner has no pace to beat a man so has to revert to cutting back on his right for a cross and I'm afraid we don't have the players to head it. Wijnaldum needs to get in the box more really. Along with Can.

If we had Ibrahimovic in our team we'd have been top of the league no doubt.


3.) 01 Feb 2017 13:39:46
Ibra is a lamp post who doesn`t and can`t do the work that Klopp requires of his CF so there is no way we would have been top of the PL with him. He`s at Utd with a more expensive squad that provides him with chances and where are they?


4.) 01 Feb 2017 14:07:06
The problem is, in Klopp's system, both fullbacks have an important attacking role to play. Our fullbacks are not capable. TAA looks very promising though and is already ahead of Clyne offensively - I would be starting him every game. Milner has done really well given the change in position, being on the wrong side, but it's clear his lack of a left foot limits his (and the teams) attacking play and fluency. As has been mentioned by Ed's and other posters Juanma (of the U23's) may yet make the step next season - time will tell.


5.) 01 Feb 2017 15:47:27
The manger opted not buy a decent left back and decided to keep Clyne at the club last summer. This is not a sudden development. What's the point in planing the players when they are not fit to your plans?


6.) 01 Feb 2017 18:44:47
Should Juanma be on the bench and maybe given some minutes during the run in if games are going our way. Might as well get the guy involved now if he's seen as the next possible left back.


 

 

28 Jan 2017 22:03:06
I actually think we will beat Chelsea.

Bear with me.

The player aren't motivated enough for the "smaller" games which they perceive is easy or less important. We have no trouble getting up for the big games against the bigger teams.

The players and Klopp need to take a good look at this as the blame lies with both.

It's a motivational issue. Ed001 has alluded to it before. E. g. Lallana talking about winning leagues but not interested in a scrap against the lower sides.

This Liverpool side like many recently lacks bottle and determination to dig deep against smaller opposition and unless we score early we struggle.

A win against Chelsea I think is a good possibility though in all honesty. Call me naive but I think we'll win on Tuesday and hopefully some of this gloom will lift.

Things will improve

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1.) 28 Jan 2017 22:41:57
So its not about a lack of true quality then? We have a few good players that can be great for short periods but that's it. Just take Mane away and them good players become dull duds. I do think Klopp needs to shoulder some of the blame for today as well. Where was Ejariah? The game cried out for pace and width. If your not going to trust Ejariah and Mane unavailable then playing central is the only option but do we have to do it at walking pace. We desperately need a bit of creative flair, someone who can out think the opposition. Most of our players need space. Without Mane's directness to create space our attackers are just like floundering fish.


2.) 28 Jan 2017 22:55:50
It's not that, it's the fact that teams have sussed us out.

Teams are prepared to let us have a massive majority possession, and sit back and smother the middle of the park, only to catch our slow defence and deep midfielders on the break.

Boring but very effective.

It's down to Klopp to tweak the system, that is all, and when he does, we'll be fine.


3.) 28 Jan 2017 23:35:55
I really hope you are right but to be honest I can't see anything but a loss for us and a big loss maybe by 3-4 goals.
Chelsea will be wanting to win big time. I have a feeling over the next 4 games or so we will be slipping out of top 4.


4.) 29 Jan 2017 00:08:36
Natural, not sure what game you were watching but Ejaria actually played 70 mins in the game. Also, if our players are not motivated vs the lesser teams then for sure we will NEVER win the PL cos there are more lesser teams in the PL than top 6 teams so not buying that nonsense of lack of motivation. They should be motivated for any game. As for the Chelsea game, I don`t see a win right now.

If I were Klopp, I would play a tactic like we did vs Utd recently as in, keep it tight, press in critical areas and then break with pace when we have the ball. Why? We are simply not good enough to go toe to toe with literally ANY team right now due to our confidence being in the dumpster.

Hence, we tread cautiously, don`t get beat, hopefully nick a win BUT definitely NOT lose, and move on to Hull as Mane will be back then cos regardless of what happens, if we don`t lose, we`ll still be in the top 4 after that game


5.) 29 Jan 2017 12:44:57
Yeah Noah I missed Ojo out of the sentence. It was supposed to be Ojo and Ejaria. I was too busy watching my predictive text, it kept wanting to stick an H on the end of Ejaria


 

 

11 Jan 2017 11:12:30
Make no mistake, tonight is a huge game!

After last years failings in 2 cup finals, Klopp and team will be desperate to get it right this time.

Fact of the matter is, as much as we all love JK, he hasn't won anything yet. Until that changes he cannot be called a successful appointment.

What better way to change that then getting to the final and smashing United at Wembley to win it!

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1.) 11 Jan 2017 12:06:30
Successful is such a subjective term Puzzled Red. In the traditional sense, quantified by cups, maybe so. but Klopp has successfully brought a brand of footie back to Anfield that has not been seen, in my humble, since Evans. He has been successful in instilling optimism, ran the transfers at what appears to be a profit, taken us to two cup finals and 2nd in the league all in a relatively short space of time.

Sometimes the destination isn't the true source of satisfaction, more the experience of the journey made to arrive there


2.) 11 Jan 2017 12:14:22
Van Gaal won a Trophy, yet he's regarded as failure at Man utd because of style of play. Klopp has been a success in that department at Anfield. We are not the finished article, but considering what Klopp has done in the way we are playing I would say so far he's doing a great job. We have been to 2 cup finals and are now competing at the top end of the Premiership, and considering the clubs financial muscle compared to our competitors for a title challenge we are definitely punching our weight.


3.) 11 Jan 2017 13:07:40
Surely the 2nd leg is more important then 😄


4.) 11 Jan 2017 13:10:44
Lol. Success measured by no of chance created! I love fine people and their exceptional talent to make excuses.

What is the use of playing attentive football and winning nothing? Guess what turn the page and ask Arsenal!

I don't care if we park the bus for the remaining 15 games if that will give me 45 points. Simply don't care how we play!

Lol LVG won an FA cup at the expense of CL places and league title! He couldn't get UTD to challenge for the league in 3 years and hence he was sacked!


5.) 11 Jan 2017 13:23:45
So apart from Conte for you, there is no successful manager in the pl?


6.) 11 Jan 2017 13:25:33
Regardless of the glaring successes that JK has had with us especially with the mess he inherited from the previous manager, he has been successful in making us more than competitive in a very short time. That must be commended.

However he himself, says that losing finals, is not cool and that he needs to start winning them again so Harry globally, is right here. If we make the final, we have to win it, period and even Klopp knows that. As for LVG, he deserved to be canned as they were just bloody awful under him and the FA Cup win, does not automatically change that fact.


7.) 11 Jan 2017 13:32:42
If you don't care if we park the bus and win the league by the type of anti-football Plymouth gave us on Saturday, you might well love Liverpool but you hate the sport. Football needs to be played and needs to be entertaining. I know several Chelsea fans and two United fans who both gave up going to games in their title wins made by boring 1-0 wins.


8.) 11 Jan 2017 14:17:54
Nobody said about winning nothing Harry lad, more a attention/ recognition to the progress and associated enjoyment with that, and rightly attributing that to Klopp building success.

Folk being all "stompy feet" and only interpreting success on the immediate (or lack of immediate) boil my p*ss Harry.

Liverpool are showing better tactical fluidity to defend (man city) but I'd rather spend the afternoon repeatedly punching my own john thomas than see Liverpool FC park the bus for half a season.


9.) 11 Jan 2017 14:26:42
If Liverpool are winning trophies but every game is dull defensive bus-parking, ill be changing sport. Ideally we win playing entertaining football but im not paying money and following a spectacle of dross.


10.) 11 Jan 2017 15:58:41
Liverpools team under Klopps high tempo pressing style has yet to complete a full season and there is still a chance that fatigue from heavy metal football will result in a cluster of injuries for the run in.

So far so good at the moment but if you handed me 2nd place now and no cup wins I would snap it up.

And with a bit of luck if we do get champagne league football we will need a bigger squad which makes the Sakhos situation stranger again.


11.) 11 Jan 2017 17:26:52
I agree with Harry! 😣😣


12.) 11 Jan 2017 20:07:40
Im hanging out for us to win the league but if we can only do it by playing boring crap footy then no thanks. Much as I would love us to finally win, if it means that my kids get turned off and stop watching then I think its not worth it. Im loving the style of footy we are playing now. Its why I started supporting LFC and I would hate to see them turn their backs on it. Just ask yourself this: how many Chelsea and ManU fans actually bothered to watch matches when their teams were playing "winning" footy.
In the wider view, Football is competing with a whole host of other "entertainment" - they can't afford to be complacent.


 

 

02 Jan 2017 13:37:38
Any team news on Henderson?

Puzzled Red

{Ed002's Note - I think it will be unlikely that Liverpool would take a risk with him today. I damn it, but they haven't purchased a player to replace him yet.}


1.) 02 Jan 2017 13:54:57
Just what the hell are these bloody american owners doing ed2, despicable we haven't bought someone yet.


2.) 02 Jan 2017 14:10:16
Just seen the lineups. Hendersons not included.

Thanks for the input Ed, I think.


3.) 02 Jan 2017 14:51:40
Out for arround 10 days.


4.) 02 Jan 2017 21:53:49
We missed him today as well . but quite a few players looked very heavy legged. maybe the rest will be good for hendo ready for Southampton! And if not definitely for the 15th!


 

 

01 Jan 2017 14:49:11
Right I was an advocate of we don't need to buy anyone this summer.

But I'll be honest if Henderson's heel injury is as bad as last time (I'm taking rest of the season), then I think we should bring someone in this window.

Stewart and Emre are fine but they cannot do what Henderson does and we saw yesterday once Hendo went off our midfield lost its shape and looked more penetrable.

Then again I'm not sure who's out there that's available and can do what Hendo does as he is a class player.

Puzzled Red

1.) 01 Jan 2017 14:57:49
But if we buy somebody who has all those attributes, what happens when the captain is fit again? Short to mid term injury doesn't free up space in the squad for a new first team player,
On the other hand, if Lucas goes and Henderson is long term out.


2.) 01 Jan 2017 15:10:20
Can was exposed playing that deeper role when Hendo went off. He doesn't have the discipline or positional sense to play there. Stewart is a true DM just like Lucas and Klopp plays with someone who is better on the ball.
We ll have to wait to see the extent of his injury.


3.) 01 Jan 2017 15:12:58
Stewart has proven he is a classy back up. If Hendo is out for a few games, no problem. If Hendo is out for the season, we perhaps need to adjust the system slightly to suit the players who are fit. Simple really. Nothing stopping us going 4-2-3-1 with Wijnaldum and Stewart/ Can in front of the back 4.

Don't panic lads. We have quality, and in depth.


4.) 01 Jan 2017 15:23:24
Stewart is brilliant on the ball Harry. Some of his forward passing is excellent and he used to occassionally play on the wing as a youth player, such is his quality on the ball. He probably doesn't have the same range as Hendo. For example, I can't see him hitting many raking diagonals. However to say he is just a pure defensive player is just offensive and frankly wrong. He is the perfect back up. This for him is his chance to nail down the position and make Henderson fight to get back in.


5.) 01 Jan 2017 15:28:21
I would love Dele Alli! Still can't believe we didn't go all out and get him. Only 20 years old, Liverpool his boy hood club. Still hopeful.


6.) 01 Jan 2017 15:30:07
We're overrun with players.


7.) 01 Jan 2017 16:59:03
Okay fair enough fellas.

You're probably right. I'm panicking a bit. I think Henderson is just so key to how we play that I'm worried our style will suffer and results too without him.


8.) 01 Jan 2017 17:43:35
Well MK, I take your words on Stewart. In that case he should be picked ahead of Can. Don't you think so? Stewart should have been on the pitch when Hendo was taken off yesterday!


9.) 01 Jan 2017 18:07:54
Was Stewart on the bench Harry? I genuinely don't know!


10.) 01 Jan 2017 18:15:03
Exactly my point. Klopp would prefer Can in that role in case Henderson needs to be taken off. Stewart only occupies the bench of Can is out with an injury. Since we don't play with specialist the first three pick remains Hendo, Wiji and Can.


11.) 01 Jan 2017 22:12:14
Stewart dribbles a little too much sometimes and is prone to get tackled in our defensive third.


12.) 02 Jan 2017 00:40:09
If you have lucas on the bench there is no need to carry stewart as well. And can offers more dynasim to the team in a variety of midfield roles that benefit coming off the bench vs what you would bring steeart on for, which is purely to shut up shop. But Lucas covers that role too.


 

 

 

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20 Feb 2017 18:54:58
@Hamilton hm not sure Klopp decides pricing for players. That probably sits more with Ayre or Edwards.

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19 Feb 2017 10:59:26
Ron, if Klopp thought either were good enough to play the role at the moment then we would have seen them et game time over the Christmas period.

They didn't. Instead he changed our style by putting Lallana out wide.

He cannot think they are ready yet. I tend to agree.

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12 Feb 2017 13:17:28
Cheers Billo. Good input

News for you though. All 3 of those are Liverpool players actually!

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15 Jan 2017 09:17:52
Hope so Harry. We need our captain

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10 Jan 2017 15:58:10
200% with you Hamilton.

It's bizarre that a 19year old highly regarded as having a bright future in the game can be dismissed as not gone enough based off a handful of matches and a below par first game back from injury against Plymouth (which I imagine is where this Yipster post and all it's 'agrees' is really originating from)

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19 Feb 2017 18:09:12
Hmm WelshRed.

So you think a striker is more needed than a winger? Okay.

We do have 4 senior strikers though and only one senior winger. Origi and Sturridge already aren't getting games and that's with Ings injured.

Surely a winger is far more of a priority? When Mane doesn't play, we have no width or pace.

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19 Feb 2017 18:06:33
Lemar - Monaco
Brandt - Bayer Leverkusen
Insigne - Napoli

All of these at least should be being looked at for LW.

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19 Feb 2017 11:03:02
We NEED more pace in wide areas. That was glaringly obvious when Mane was out and will be again next season with all the extra matches (assuming we qualify for Europe as expected and don't miserably crash out of all the cups again) .

Brandt has way more games under his belt than Pulisic. He is a key part of the BL team. Pulisic is an impact sub for BD.

Apples and organges really.

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18 Feb 2017 16:45:33
Ron, that keeper is Karius.

Klopps choice. Got to accept it mate.

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18 Feb 2017 14:54:02
We need a left back to replace Moreno.

We need another fast wide player to compliment Mane and not jeaporadose us when he can't play and we have European football next year and more games. (Think how many wingers Arsenal and Chelsea have! )

We need a holding midfielder to play with Henderson to replace Lucas and Can.

That'll do me for now. Too many changes is just a backward step.

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