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24 Dec 2016 11:39:12
Merry Xmas eds and reds. Hope you all have a great time with whomever you spend it with.
On a side note I want to thabe LFC for the early xmas present of being real title contenders at Xmas time. I would have happily settled for top 4 this season so to see how far we've come in such a short time unsee Klopp really gives me hope for the future.
Merry Xmas all.


{Ed002's Note - The Eds and Liverpool thabe you for you kind words.}

1.) 24 Dec 2016 14:11:42

2.) 24 Dec 2016 14:59:37
Thanks for spotting that ed. Typing on a phone with a hangover, not a good idea. Thabe again.



13 Feb 2016 09:41:35
I've seen lots of posts recently regarding our goalkeeping situation. For me the first thing we need to do is get rid of Achterberg and bring in a new coach. Reina was arguably the second best keeper in the league, then in comes Achterberg and his form is horrendous for 2 seasons. Mignolet is by no means a grwat keeper but surely he should have shown some improvement, he is making the same mistake everyone, which to me shows that the coaches are not actually improving the mental side if his game. So step one has to be change of coach.
If we decide to by in the summer I would look to the Bundesliga. (Watch it a bit on BT) I know there's talk in the press of Ter Stegen, but for me 20mil is a risk there are keepers with just as much potential but who would cost a lot less. Personally I'm pleased we are linked with Karius, it might just be the Klopp-Mainz link but if it is genuine interest then I'd be happy as he has impressed this season. I would also look at Horn as a potential signing. Then there's keepers like Zeiler, Baumann and Leno (but apparently Real are interested in him) . Any of these would be a vast improvement on what we have.


1.) 13 Feb 2016 11:17:49
Totally agree popa, both karius and horn would cost at least half of ter stegen pethaps a little more.

2.) 13 Feb 2016 12:32:06
Does anyone know who is regarded as a top keeping coach that could be available?

3.) 13 Feb 2016 12:40:10
Love these posts not just ed who we getting ed what's gods name eds eds eds it's actually a good call claiming a new coach. Not a fan of mig but yeah he should have improved just never did so totally agree.

4.) 13 Feb 2016 14:51:33
I have to agree- there's no point buying a new young keeper if the gk coach is not going to improve him- and achterberg hasn't improved any of the keepers at lpool.
Interesting that ward hit good form after going out on loan- ie away from achterberg.
To us amateurs it appears obvious that the gk coach is not producing results, but is actually making the keepers worse- so why don't the club see things the same way?

5.) 13 Feb 2016 15:23:09
perhaps we could make a banner! anonymush, joking aside you're spot on mate, we need a proper shake up in the goalkeeping department, achterberg was an average keeper himself so he has not got the credentials required to be coaching Liverpool fc goalkeepers. the results speak for themselves.

6.) 13 Feb 2016 15:23:06
Hi Ed001

As a fan in his twenties with admittedly no in depth knowledge on goalkeepers of a previous era other than YouTube and old videos when I was younger I still have to question why you reckon goalies and defenders are much worse these days? I mean if you look back at the results of fixtures in the 70s you see games that are won 7-2 and 8-4 and all of these ridiculous scorelines. Surely that indicates that they couldn't of been that much better defensively? Or was it due to lack of tactics etc.? I mean I see clips of people like Barnes and all these great dribbles of the ball and take nothing away from them cause they were amazing but in a lot of clips you barely see a defender even throw in a tackle they just let them glide by like nothing. I don't know it's hard to doubt the level of quality was different between now and then without being around but I guess what I'm mostly interested in is what in your opinion what was it that caused such huge scorelines which we don't see as often today?

Thanks for the thread. Really interesting read.

{Ed001's Note - tactics is the main thing, players are not given the freedom they were, they are held in rigid systems. When you see big scores there is always a breakdown in the system that results in it. Plus it helps playing on better pitches, so many goals were the result of bobbly pitches that you can probably rule out a large proportion because of that. Mainly though it is a more defensive system mindset. Teams play with more defensive players than in the past. Even now they have gone more attacking with the fullbacks, everyone puts a defensive midfielder in to cover any gaps. There is also the problem of the modern defender having to cope with rule changes making it much more difficult to use physical tactics to defend. You used to be able to kick an attacker until he could barely run.}

7.) 13 Feb 2016 23:37:20
Errm Barcelona/ RM cricket scores lately in Spain . BM in Germany .
The gulf in class between top and bottom in the prem has obviously closed, in Spain, France and Germany it persists.
It's not a isolated season it's going to get messy -stoke, WH, Leicester and others are shaking up the mighty Quo
Big 4 is now about 8 strong.



20 Jan 2016 10:27:34
Been reading a fair few posts recently that are either flat questioning Klopp's ability or having sly or thinly veiled digs at him. Are we seriously already having a pop at a manager most of the top teams in Europe would love to have? No wonder are reputation as fans has nosedived.
I for one am still buzzing that every match day I see Klopp in our dug out. He has inherited an unbalanced squad of average players mixed with youngsters who need to develop. He is trying to totally change the way we play and the way we train without a preseason. The players aren't fit enough to press in the manner he likes again he is trying to improve fitness without a preseason.
He has already been able to show glimpses of how a Klopp Liverpool can play. Let's give him this season to settle and assess the squad, then he will have a preseason to fully implement his methods and recruit players that suit. I am excited for next season and I really believe Rodgers left our club in a worse mess than out realise. It was never going to be a quick fix post Rodgers and I think that is partly what attracted Klopp to begin with, the project of getting us back on top.
Can we please all just agree this season would a success with a trophy in the cabinet and nothing more, we will not get top 4 because we do not have top 4 players. Let's be happy and excited about Klopp and our future under him, the constant pessimism on this site can be draining at times.


1.) 20 Jan 2016 11:43:06
Popa, it's more that people are now in a position to comment on his actions rather than his reputation. I think everyone's happy with him but up until this point he's been some mythical figure that will improve us simply by deigning us with his presence.

We're now at the stage where we can't absolve him of responsibility. Caulker and Migs are strange choices that are on his head and that goes for Long if he comes in. We can't blame Rodgers, the TC, the owners or the scouts. These are all things that Klopp's agreed to.

No matter what happens no one's going to be calling for his head this summer. but come next season it's time for him to demonstrate why his reputation's so good.



02 Nov 2015 08:01:24
Is it just me or are BT Sport actively trying to rival I TV for the worst football commentary. Trevor Francis has not managed and team in 12 years yet we were subjected to his inane babble about how Liverpool clearly hadn't worked on their shape or tactics WTF. Turned the sound off after 15 mins and enjoyed the game much more.


1.) 02 Nov 2015 08:20:08
Five minutes in he suggested Klopp should be bringing on Benteke, shows why he hasn't managed for years. I think he is still bitter we beat his Brum side in the League Cup back in 2001.

2.) 02 Nov 2015 08:23:18
Yes mate I was exactly the same. They haven't got a clue.

3.) 02 Nov 2015 08:53:35
I actually think ITV coverage with Tyldesley and Townsend wasn't that bad - its their half time/post match which was pretty rubbish. BT are far worse and it is really annoying that they have now taken from ITV not only the Champions League but also the Europa League (used to be in ITV4). With Sky sport I can at least go to my local gym they have Sky sport but not BT, so a good opportunity to combine running with watching some football. With Bt its either the pub or streaming and for some reason when it is sky sport it is easier to find a streaming in relatively ok quality compared to BT.

4.) 02 Nov 2015 12:55:11
Coverage is awful in general guys. I hate watching football on bt sports. Worst commentary team around. Clueless and so mono tone! Owen for me is the worst. real shame they got so many games! On the other hand I loved the game! Still smiling about it today and I work with two Chelsea fans!

5.) 02 Nov 2015 18:24:05
Im not sure which channel it is, he usually covers la liga games, the Geordie bloke! All commentators should be like that.

my favourite piece of commentary is the gerrard goal. WHAT A HIT SON!



01 Sep 2015 21:55:31
Trying to lighten the mood after a thoroughly depressing day that t proves once again Brenda refuses to even entertain the idea of giving committee buys a fair shot. So I've put £5 on us to buy Van Dijk from Southampton for £30 mil next summer


1.) 01 Sep 2015 22:00:04
You're talking nonesense; €50 million then he'll loan him out to Watford and pay his wages.

2.) 01 Sep 2015 22:02:09
You've effectively put a £5 on BR being the manager next season, there, mate.

3.) 01 Sep 2015 22:24:59
Ilori loan was the final nail in the coffin.

4.) 01 Sep 2015 22:36:16
We should have explored the possibility of loaning Brendan to Swansea with loan to buy.

5.) 02 Sep 2015 00:07:07
Pretty sure they'd probably rather keep Monk, EG.

6.) 02 Sep 2015 01:13:21
Would have sold him for WHATEVER Swansea would want

7.) 02 Sep 2015 03:53:34
Harry that was actually kinda funny from you, not used to such things.

8.) 02 Sep 2015 08:32:29
We should make Brendan do all the managing on his won, you know like Enrique.




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17 Feb 2017 12:16:03
Fair comment AndyM, I'm a lecturer and have been for 7 years. I'm confident in my ability and my success rates supports that I'm good at my job. However, every year I have to be observed by peers and by my line manager. On these occasions the pressure I feel is immense knowing I'm being scrutinised whilst doing my job. I can't imagine what it must be like having 50,000 scrutinising you, especially as you rightly point out knowing quite a lot of your 'fans' will merely berate you every time you fail to perform like a world class star.
Regarding people saying Karius is better than Migs or that they are of equal ability. Remember Karius is 23 Migs has 5 years on him, most of which has been as a first choice keeper in the Prem. Therefore for Karius to be as good at 23 is surely a good thing as it shows he can only get better as he matures and reaches his peak. Look at all the top goalkeepers currently, how many were at their peak at 23? Few to none is my bet. let's give the lad genuine support and have patience, as Ed pointed out we can not go out and buy finished products, so if that's what you want or you are unwilling to have patience with the players (the lads played 10 games and is being written off by some), then I'd suggest you go support City or Chelsea.




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14 Feb 2017 21:04:43
Thanks Mathematics, as you say it's never really as simple as we were good they were bad. It's the nuances of the game that make me love it so much.




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14 Feb 2017 13:16:18
If Spurs only have one way of playing then explain to me why against the other top 4 contenders they have usually deployed a back 3 and not a back 4 like they did at the weekend. This fundamentally alters their style of play, they usually play a similar pressing game to ourselves (although not quite at the same intensity) . Allowing them to pinch the ball high, get it wide and cross. This works well with a back 3 as the wing backs are already up field to provide the width.
However, due to our press at the weekend (something that has been lacking recently intensity wise) Poch went with the back 4 and was looking play on the break, this is how a lot of teams have had success against us recently. It failed due to Spur's back 4 being totally disorganised (In my view due to the intensity of our press) .
The biggest influencing factors for me are these. 1- First time since December Gini, Hendo and Lallana have been our midfield 3. This brought composure, pressure and creativity to the middle of the park. 2- Only the 8th time this season Lallana, Couts, Mane and Coutinho have played together, in those 8 games we have scored nearly 30 goals. I've been saying for a long time our slump was nothing to do with energy levels or our system, it was because we could not field our best team with everyone in their best positions (shows lack of depth really)




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10 Feb 2017 11:45:53
Most likely opening myself to be criticised and derided by some fans. But is Waro's argument purely based on the amount of spending on the squad?

Surely spending way beyond our means in order to match Utd and Chelsea (no idea why some fans worship those clubs) on the transfer front is the sort of nonsense that H&G did that led us to within a whisker of administration.

Are those who slate the owners forgetting the state the club was in commercially when they arrived. I forget the article now but I read that when they took over the merchandise office was basically one guy in an office. So you were trying to order a shirt say in Australia but it was night time over here your order wouldn't go through. This was 2010 for Christ's sake and we were still trapped in the early 90's regarding our merchandise and commercial potential.

I might be wrong and I'm sure the Ed's know more than me, but from reading around FSG have put a lot of effort into improving us as a brand and a commercial entity, yes this ultimately benefits them (they are investors after all), but football is a business and no owner will do it for the love of the club despite what Spirit of Shankly pander about.

Question for Waro,

I'm not having a go here I am genuinely interested in this- What are the group's plan if they ever managed to get control of the club. I don't mean squad or management wise, I'm talking about all the other bits. The infrastructure (the academy and training ground being in different locations for example), the commercial interests and growth, brand exposure (the last two I feel FSG have improved quite substantially)




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10 Feb 2017 11:09:52
Great news mate. Best of luck to you and your family.