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09 Oct 2018 05:20:43
Hi eds

I heard a rumour that Leceister are interested in Clyne. Any truth to this? I note that his contract runs out in 2020 so it would be nice to get a small fee for him as opposed to him leaving on a free at the end of next season.

{Ed001's Note - they are looking for a right back and if the price is right he would be an option for them.}


1.) 09 Oct 2018 08:11:13
Thanks a lot Ed001! Hope you are feeling well.

I think once he departs we are okay for cover given that Gomez and Fabinho can fill in there if TAA isn't available. This would also provide Ki Jana Hoever with a path into the first team.

On the other side I wouldn't be surprised if a replacement right back was brought in given that Ki Jana Hoever is still extremely young and that there is a possibility that Trent moves into midfield.

{Ed001's Note - and that Gomez and Fabinho are better in the centre as well.}


2.) 09 Oct 2018 08:40:39
Absolutely Ed001.

Quite a lot for Klopp to consider when fringe players leave regarding whether to sign replacements or promote youth. Luckily he has time to think about this.

{Ed001's Note - that is always the difficult bit, which is why so few managers stay long enough in a job to have to get the balance right.}


3.) 09 Oct 2018 11:31:50
Good move all around!


4.) 09 Oct 2018 19:26:57
Ed001 If Clyne leaves who do you want to replace him?

{Ed001's Note - I don't believe that we need to replace him right now.}


5.) 10 Oct 2018 04:09:29
Thank Ed001!

{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate.}


6.) 11 Oct 2018 06:27:58
Ed001, why are Leicester City looking at a right back? They already have Pereira and Simpson.

{Ed001's Note - Simpson is crap and is not happy being on the bench and Pereira is not up to much either.}


7.) 11 Oct 2018 07:44:36
Thanks Ed.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome. I should explain more, Simpson was always deemed as in need of replacing, even as far back as their title-winning season. Pereira was brought in to replace him, but he has been found to be lacking in basic defensive requirements, so they are not overly happy with him within the club.}


 

 

03 Oct 2018 16:23:59
Hi eds

With Moreno's contract ending at the end of the season, is Klopp looking to promote Adam Lewis as back up for Robertson? Any insight will be much appreciated.

Many thanks in advance.

{Ed001's Note - far too early to say.}


1.) 03 Oct 2018 16:34:13
Thank you for your response Ed001

I understand that it would be too early to say. I will remember to ask around February.

Does Klopp rate him?


2.) 03 Oct 2018 22:30:56
With moreno probably leaving then, that could leave the door open for Lewis or Gallagher but it could also mean a new signing.


3.) 04 Oct 2018 10:30:08
Ed1 do you think Tierney from celtic would be a good shout to replace moreno?

{Ed001's Note - if he was currently interested in leaving Celtic then yes, but he won't move to back up Robbo.}


4.) 04 Oct 2018 10:45:25
Thanks Ed. I hear he's quite a versatile player too. But with Robbo doing so well he'd probably not be tempted.

{Ed001's Note - he can play left mid, as can Robbo, but we don't really play with a left mid.}


5.) 04 Oct 2018 20:59:30
Left centre half of a back 3 and if ya really stuck centre half although he isn't the tallest player


On thing about him he always looks up with his crosses to pick someone out.


6.) 07 Oct 2018 15:36:32
What's happened to that Juanma kid? A year or so ago, there was talk of him making the grade in future at left back.

{Ed001's Note - he didn't work out as expected, it happens.}


 

 

 

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15 Oct 2018 14:25:58
On a random note Henderson is the most capped current England player. Sterling is 2nd, two caps behind Hendo (this will likely be one cap since Hendo is suspended for the Spain game) . Sterling is most likely the next one to 100 caps since he is 4 and a half years younger than Hendo. Unless Hendo can go on playing International football for another 5 or so years.


1.) 15 Oct 2018 17:46:31
Neither player has even 50 caps yet, 100 caps is years away if it happens at all.


2.) 15 Oct 2018 17:45:55
How many caps does hendo have? In fairness, hendo was a young player during the "golden era" with players like Gerrard, lampard and Carrick in the mix. Very hard to get a game. Whereas sterling has been around during one of the worst spells of english football.


3.) 15 Oct 2018 18:41:21
Pretty sure this World Cup was the best they have played in since 90.

{Ed025's Note - and still never beat any side of note..


4.) 15 Oct 2018 18:54:52
Euro 96 squad was bettter than the current imo.


5.) 15 Oct 2018 19:27:28
Spot on, Drogie and Ed25. England beat NOBODY at the WC and as soon as they found a real team with world class players (yes, that includes Lovren, lol) and a tactically brilliant manager, they crumbled and Southgate was shown to be the toddler that he is tactically, in the international game BUT credit to him and the team for getting there regardless.

As for the Euro 96 team, that team should have won the tournament cos yeah, they were that brilliant BUT you know life (as in Germany) got in the way. That Euro 96 team was the best England team since 1966 and they would effortlessly, wipe the floor with the so-called "golden generation". Just my opinion.


6.) 15 Oct 2018 19:42:59
Think I'm a Holland fan now. Gini and Virgil, plus our man Babel 👌 no chance I'm cheering on Harry Kane (pen), $terling and Rashford.


7.) 15 Oct 2018 21:34:31
Lol I'm with you there MK.


8.) 15 Oct 2018 21:39:49
Ed how about we add Spain away.

{Ed025's Note - we can now mate and im happy about that..


9.) 15 Oct 2018 22:00:27
been a holland man since the days of davids and Seedorf and even a far back as Gullit Rykaard and Van Basten
Brazil and holland always been the team I want to do well in any tourney
Love the fact Gini plays for them and usually plays well.

{Ed025's Note - i loved that 70,s holland side as well john...but lets not disrespect those great players by mentioning gini on the same page mate..


10.) 15 Oct 2018 22:09:02
Been a Holland fan for 30 years or should I say, since I watched the Euro 1988 tournament and its final where Marco Van Basten (arguably the best CF ever) scored the best volley I have ever seen in my life, with legendary Rinus Michels rubbing his eyes in disbelief.

{Ed025's Note - what a goal that was brover top 3 ever i would say, im a massive marco fan mate..


11.) 15 Oct 2018 22:09:20
PMSL can't beat a bit of Ed 025 banter
how you doing mate?
hope your well
just heard Mane has broke his hand has well.

{Ed025's Note - im good thanks john, its his thumb i believe mate so not too serious but may have trouble spraying that stupid gold hair spray on his barnet.. :)


12.) 15 Oct 2018 23:18:51
Hey ed 25 I think Ronnie Whelans goal against Russia was every bit as good as van Bastens. Just my opinion 😎.


 

 

13 Oct 2018 13:46:00
Egypt have confirmed that Salah suffered a muscle strain and not a rupture. He has been sent back to Liverpool thankfully. Henderson suspended for England's next fixture so he too will get a well deserved rest.


1.) 13 Oct 2018 16:23:47
A muscle strain, does that mean he is out injured now for a while?


2.) 13 Oct 2018 17:00:57
A couple of weeks it seems.


3.) 13 Oct 2018 17:30:36
I’ve seen a few on the live chat and plenty on Twitter saying he should be dropped so should be some happy reds around.


4.) 13 Oct 2018 21:53:52
I think he'll be fine for the weekend depending on how the injury reacts to treatment over this week. At best, he will not start vs Hudd. Just my opinion.


5.) 14 Oct 2018 05:49:23
Wouldn’t mind seeing Shaquiri start to be honest. Salah isn’t exactly in form and if he’s struggling even slightly then don’t risk it. That’s what we got Shaq for.


6.) 14 Oct 2018 15:24:25
Wouldn't like to see salah benched but he does look tired and maybe needs a rest.


 

 

13 Oct 2018 08:48:48
I remember when I was in High School there were 5 wonderkids born in 1991 that everyone I knew who was interested in football thought would become world class. Can anybody guess who they are? Clue -2 currently play in the Premier League, 1 in La Liga, 1 in the Bundisliga and 1 in the Championship.


1.) 13 Oct 2018 09:15:45
Hazard, Lukaku, Butland, Reus?


2.) 13 Oct 2018 09:28:46
You got Hazard correct. 4 more to go.


3.) 13 Oct 2018 09:41:11
Coutinho, Götze, Salah

(Can’t think of anyone in Championship) better let someone else have a go 😄.


4.) 13 Oct 2018 09:53:36
Those are good shouts as all 3 were wonderkids but sadly all 3 were born in 1992 so it isn't them. 1 is a Liverpool player I will give you that clue.


5.) 13 Oct 2018 10:08:17
I’m just guessing without googling dates of birth. 😄
I’m going to let someone else have a go as this will get embarrassing 😉.


6.) 13 Oct 2018 10:09:02
Firmino?


7.) 13 Oct 2018 10:19:08
Close Salah but not him. Since Firmino is one of only 2 Liverpool players born in 1991 I'm sure you know who now.


8.) 13 Oct 2018 10:23:09
Correction 3 Liverpool players born in 1991. It's not Van Dijk and Firmino so that leaves.


9.) 13 Oct 2018 10:30:18
Henderson?

{Ed001's Note - wasn't Matip born in 91?}


10.) 13 Oct 2018 10:40:25
My minds blank I can't do it without cheating lol.


11.) 13 Oct 2018 10:41:50
I clean forgot about Joel Matip! My bad! The Liverpool player is Shaqiri.

{Ed001's Note - I thought Shaqiri had already been said sorry.}


12.) 13 Oct 2018 11:00:01
Kroos, muller and pieters?


13.) 13 Oct 2018 11:19:17
Zaha?


14.) 13 Oct 2018 11:21:36
James Rodriguez, Oscar.


15.) 13 Oct 2018 11:22:14
Hazard, Griezmann, James Rodriguez, Shaqiri and Bojan.


16.) 13 Oct 2018 11:41:24
I thought about Bojan, but didn't realise he still played for Stoke!


17.) 13 Oct 2018 11:42:39
Hazard, Shaqiri, Griezmann and James are correct so just the Championship player left.


18.) 13 Oct 2018 12:23:54
Jack Rodwell.


19.) 13 Oct 2018 12:25:13
Is the Championship player Nelson Oliveira at Norwich?


20.) 13 Oct 2018 12:34:21
Andreas Wiemann.


21.) 13 Oct 2018 12:45:18
Jack Rodwell is correct. So now that all 5 have been revealed. What's everyone's thoughts on how they developed? How did they either fulfil their potential or how did they fail to do so?


22.) 13 Oct 2018 14:39:41
Good quiz, Oubaas!

I reckon Hazard, Griezmann and James = yes on potential

Rodwell = no

And Shaqiri = not yet but hopefully very very soon!


23.) 13 Oct 2018 15:39:24
Whether they lived up to their supposed potential of 'world-beaters'?

Hazard: Yes, especially now that he seems to be adding (more) goals to his game under Sarri.

Griezmann: Yes although he seems rather conceited and sometimes does disappear in big games.

James: No. Plays well under certain circumstances but he's nowhere near world-class. Too slow in the mind imo.

Rodwell: Lol

Shaqiri: No, and I don't think he'll ever become world-class. That doesn't mean I don't like him or rate him though, I think he's a good player who's applied himself well whenever he's had a chance with us. But I get the feeling it's too late for him to reach that upper echelon.


24.) 13 Oct 2018 16:18:23
Zed, I disagree on Shaqiri. Shaqiri's development has been as good, if not better than James Rodriguez's. Shaqiri has represented his country (playing very well) twice in the World Cup, already. And he's put on the jersey of some of Europe's top clubs; with Stoke being a blip of sorts (one could argue James warming the bench for Real Madrid for an entire season is about the same) .

I would say both have performed on a very similar level in their careers. Maybe not world-beaters, but then every player with potential can't be a Ballon d'Or winner either. So if James has made it, then I would suggest Shaqiri has too.


25.) 12 Oct 2018 17:21:44
Will Hughes? Everyone expected big things from him at one point.


26.) 13 Oct 2018 18:29:23
Fair points Ra and Zpecial one, perhaps James joins Shaqiri in the ‘not yet/ not quite’ category.


27.) 13 Oct 2018 20:30:14
Would agree to that Zed.


28.) 14 Oct 2018 01:16:50
It was all mistake when Rodwell went to City, that got his carrer going down since.


 

 

12 Oct 2018 06:40:30
On a random note. Joe Gomez! What a player he is becoming for us! Everything we like in a defender including pace! And still only 21! Right now he is first pick for England as well. He even has the exotic surname that Liverpool fans crave.


1.) 12 Oct 2018 09:10:04
"Exotic" surname? Look around, and smell the roses. There are more Liverpool fans with "exotic" surnames than there are with "normal" surnames (whatever "normal" means) .


2.) 12 Oct 2018 11:32:06
I think you’ve completely misread his meaning there mate. There’s no malice there.

He’s talking about the old argument that English players get less hype from English fans than foreign ones do. That’s all.


3.) 12 Oct 2018 13:27:50
It’s a weird dichotomy where English players are underrated but also incredibly overrated by fans and commentators alike. Personally I find the latter to be true more then the former. Though I think the former does apply to a lot of young talented English managers, which is unfair.

Regardless Gomez is a great talent. Is it me or does he just seem faster this year? Great to see.


4.) 12 Oct 2018 14:51:57
I wasn't really try to stir up anything with my response. I just got the sense that it was harking back to the old days where basically only fans in the UK were fans of Liverpool, and anything else was extra or "exotic". It's a global game now and all clubs aspire to a global following. Bceause that's where the money is and where survival/ success is. Just going by TV viewership, there are more PL watching fans in Europe than there are in the UK. And for the Rest of the World, there are more PL watching fans than there are for the UK and Europe combined. So everything has changed. The same can safely said for Liverpool. So why should anyone who is not from Liverpool or the UK, whether it is a manager, a player or a fan be labelled as exotic? Just look at ManU! Their years "on the perch" didn't happen by luck or coincidence. It was a corporate strategy to expand their following throughout the World, which in turn provided considerable financial gains, which in turn allowed them to buy pretty much anyone they wanted to buy at whatever price. Which in turn resulted in all those titles. I never open the ManU page, but the rest of you will have to tell me if any of their fans call their managers, players or fans as "exotic".


5.) 12 Oct 2018 18:58:15
Again ArAy, you’ve misread the whole situation, trust me.


6.) 12 Oct 2018 20:21:01
Spot on 87red!


7.) 12 Oct 2018 21:04:16
Okay, in that case, my apologies. 🙏.


8.) 13 Oct 2018 08:27:24
No worries ArAy. Keep well.


 

 

09 Oct 2018 08:46:17
Thank you very much for the review ed001

Good news about Lyle Foster. South Africa definetly need more players playing at a higher level.

{Ed001's Note - it feels like a while since there were any top talents coming from there. What happened to stop the likes of Pienaar appearing?}


1.) 09 Oct 2018 09:15:53
I always wished Liverpool bought Tshabalala!


2.) 09 Oct 2018 09:22:26
The country and its politics, the corruption in our Country has an impact on the state of our football. Our coaching is 10 years behind, when we try to create good playing environments it's destroyed by certain members of the public. South Africa doesn't care enough about sports to invest into football. There is no money in low level grass root football so good coaches cannot survive on the salaries. Like any industry its a lot about who you know and not what you know. There are many many factors here, if you not in an academy by 16 17 it's unlikely you'll make it.

{Ed001's Note - I am surprised at that, normally corrupt regimes like to pump money into sports to distract the populace.}


3.) 09 Oct 2018 09:24:24
Pienaar's injuries took it's toll on him and as such he was unable to cope with club football and international football so he retired early from international football. I suspect there are other reasons, however.

There were high hopes for Rivaldo Coetzee but due to injuries it seems the end for him now.

Dolly it seems the hype has gone quiet on.

Ajax Cape Town's relegation also hasn't been ideal. They had a nice partnership with Ajax Amsterdam which was good for development.

Unfortunately things aren't looking up at all.

Strange as we have got it right with cricket and Rugby but have been on the decline with football.


4.) 09 Oct 2018 09:41:26
True edd, our South African Government hasn't quite mastered the art of subtle sustainable corruption. We are more of a "bleed the country dry untill there is nothing left" type regime at the moment. I do find it amazing that countries in a similar economic state still churn out talent though.

{Ed001's Note - usually that helps as youngsters have little to aim for bar sports.}


5.) 09 Oct 2018 10:01:09
Very true, I feel like we've lost our way a bit. My father used to tell me the English players used to play a bit of football in South Africa, Geoff Hurst, Bobby Moore to name a few. Apparently they played here in their off seasons and it would fill the stadiums.

{Ed001's Note - they used to pay a lot of money to get them.}


6.) 09 Oct 2018 10:01:18
There are 2 South African premier league players however.

Percy Tau at Brighton but he is on loan in Belgium due to work permi issues

Andrew Surman at Bournemouth but he is not currently interested in playing international football.

Agree with Zepp regarding the politics. The interference is too strong.

{Ed001's Note - does Surman count?}


7.) 09 Oct 2018 12:43:44
Great insight lads, I had no idea about this and made good reading.


8.) 09 Oct 2018 13:28:52
V interesting. I'm surprised I've never noticed a lack of South African presence in international football. Had a world Cup 8 years ago of course. I'd always though you were a rugby nation.


9.) 09 Oct 2018 15:42:13
We are very much a Rugby Cricket nation, but even that has taken a drop due to politics, government bodies dictating how many players of colour should be in the National teams etc, that causes a divide in the support. A lot of our country supports opposition countries since the Apartheid days, we are trying to right the wrongs of the past and the most notable way is to show the world how diverse our sports teams are. This comes at the cost of quality instead of fixing the racial issues at grass root levels. Sorry if this became political, you don't gave to post it edd.


10.) 09 Oct 2018 18:36:29
Spot on, Zeppelin. I had high hopes for Theko Modise as well BUT he just fizzled out as well. I hope SA can come back strong football-wise and get the same type of players like they did in the past w/ MacCarthy, Fortune, Bartlett, Fish, Zuma or even legends like the great Theophilus "Doctor" Khumalo and John "Shoes" Moshoeu (I know, I'm showing my age here) .


 

 

 

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09 Oct 2018 08:40:39
Absolutely Ed001.

Quite a lot for Klopp to consider when fringe players leave regarding whether to sign replacements or promote youth. Luckily he has time to think about this.

{Ed001's Note - that is always the difficult bit, which is why so few managers stay long enough in a job to have to get the balance right.}


 

 

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09 Oct 2018 08:11:13
Thanks a lot Ed001! Hope you are feeling well.

I think once he departs we are okay for cover given that Gomez and Fabinho can fill in there if TAA isn't available. This would also provide Ki Jana Hoever with a path into the first team.

On the other side I wouldn't be surprised if a replacement right back was brought in given that Ki Jana Hoever is still extremely young and that there is a possibility that Trent moves into midfield.

{Ed001's Note - and that Gomez and Fabinho are better in the centre as well.}


 

 

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03 Oct 2018 16:34:13
Thank you for your response Ed001

I understand that it would be too early to say. I will remember to ask around February.

Does Klopp rate him?


 

 

 

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13 Oct 2018 12:45:18
Jack Rodwell is correct. So now that all 5 have been revealed. What's everyone's thoughts on how they developed? How did they either fulfil their potential or how did they fail to do so?


 

 

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13 Oct 2018 11:42:39
Hazard, Shaqiri, Griezmann and James are correct so just the Championship player left.


 

 

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13 Oct 2018 10:41:50
I clean forgot about Joel Matip! My bad! The Liverpool player is Shaqiri.

{Ed001's Note - I thought Shaqiri had already been said sorry.}


 

 

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13 Oct 2018 10:23:09
Correction 3 Liverpool players born in 1991. It's not Van Dijk and Firmino so that leaves.


 

 

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13 Oct 2018 10:19:08
Close Salah but not him. Since Firmino is one of only 2 Liverpool players born in 1991 I'm sure you know who now.