Liverpool Rumours Member Posts

 

Oubaas van Zyl's Profile

Current Avatar:
Oubaas van Zyl's Avatar



Oubaas van Zyl's Posts and Other Poster's Replies To Oubaas van Zyl's Posts

 

 

To Oubaas van Zyl's last 5 rumours posts

 

To Oubaas van Zyl's last 5 banter posts

 

To Oubaas van Zyl's last 5 rumour replies

 

To Oubaas van Zyl's last 5 banter replies

 

Oubaas van Zyl's rumours posts with other poster's replies to Oubaas van Zyl's rumours posts

 

24 Dec 2018 06:50:51
Hi Ed001

With a Cesc Fabregas like situation for Coutinho slowly starting to develop at Barce do you think we would be interested if he were to become available?

Oubaas van Zyl

{Ed001's Note - no, after the way he forced his way out? Not a chance.}


1.) 24 Dec 2018 09:58:27
Made his bed now lie in it.


2.) 24 Dec 2018 10:40:13
Ed001, just out of curiosity though, is he actually unhappy at Barca? What about Barcelona with him?

{Ed001's Note - he can't get in the team.}


3.) 24 Dec 2018 11:02:07
Coutinho should have done his research on Valverde and the current Barcelona setup before making the move. There was an inevitability that it would end badly for both him and Barca. He just does not fit in seamlessly into their midfield or attack. Not to mention his playing style being quite different to iniesta who he was supposed to replace.


4.) 24 Dec 2018 10:45:32
In life, sometimes, you get what you ask for. Just a shame. Struggled at Inter and was going nowhere. Liverpool gave him a chance and he took it and made a name for himself and the team. And now back to square one.


5.) 24 Dec 2018 12:03:22
Even tho we came off better in the deal (buying alisson and vvd for what we sold him for) if the chance did come up to sign him I for one think we would be crazy not too. Yes he forced his way out but for me emotion should be put to one side. Would he make this Liverpool team better? 100%.

{Ed001's Note - where would he play? I do not see how he makes the team better. In fact, as I said at the time, I think we are better suited to Klopp's style without him and I think that has been borne out since. Excellent player but not what we need in any way, shape or form.}


6.) 24 Dec 2018 12:38:29
Rather not have him back. He went on strike to leave, faked back injuries, and completely ignored his defensive duties for the last 6 months whilst he tried to force a move.

He can get in the hole he's dug with Suarez and Mascherano.


7.) 24 Dec 2018 12:48:12
I think the team has moved on to the next level (up) and it's without Coutinho. I for one, would never want to replace Mane with Coutinho today. I believe Mane offers much more than Coutinho did. Where else would he play? Want the front 3 left untouched. And Klopp never continued with playing him in central midfield; probably because he doesn't track back well or have major defensive skills which Klopp wants in all his midfielders.


8.) 24 Dec 2018 13:37:33
The sad thing is ArAy1969, Coutinho is actually really good defensively. I remember in 13/ 14 when he played in the midfield diamond and worked tirelessly. He was a good tackler as well.

He just stopped caring and that is unforgivable. One thing you can't take away from Suarez is how committed he was on the pitch even in his last few games. Then again, Coutinho didn't bite anyone!


9.) 24 Dec 2018 13:38:55
How’s Suarez and marchersno on dug a hole? Both When they left we’re good enough to walk into any team, coutinho who has glimpses of excellence is far too inconsistent.


10.) 24 Dec 2018 13:40:53
Ed001 could you not see him playing on the left in a 4231 with mane switched to the right. I think he is a special player. Wasn't happy with the antics I'll admit that but if there was a chance to buy him back I just think we would be mad not too. Merry Xmas anyway ed001. Unbelievable site.

{Ed001's Note - not at all mate. He doesn't do the press well enough which is why we improved so much when he went.
Merry xmas to you too mate. Have a happy and safe new year too.}


11.) 24 Dec 2018 14:10:49
Pegleg, Suarez bit someone and threatened legal action against the club to get a move. Mascherano turned up drunk and went on strike to get a move. Coutinho feigned injury and went on strike to get a move. That's how they ALL dug a hole and that's why none of them should ever be welcomed back to Liverpool.


12.) 24 Dec 2018 14:22:12
Not to mention how Suarez lied to Kenny and brought disgrace to the club.


13.) 24 Dec 2018 15:11:30
Ir89

I think mane plays much better in todays set up when he is on the left. Despite his early struggles adopting to that side he has become a best at left foward.

I personally wouldn't bring anyone in to shift mane to the right.

I don't think coutinho would ever come back anyway. Just like players move on. Teams move on too.

Hes still a great player but i think the 100 to 120 million it would take to bring him back would be better spent elsewhere to enhance our young and improving squad.


14.) 24 Dec 2018 16:21:24
Everything aside, would he still fit our style of play or have we moved on from him. We’ve done pretty well without him and sometimes his attempts at worldies drove me mad, although how much of that was trying to catch barca’s eye I don’t know? He’s got quality in his boots though. Did the club wash their hands of him after the way he left?


15.) 24 Dec 2018 16:40:33
coutinho will always have a special place in my heart ad long as he does not play for united. will love to take him back tomorrow.


16.) 24 Dec 2018 16:56:35
If Coutinho did move, I’d find it hard to see him at another English club. Barcas midfield isn’t great, he should buck his ideas up, stop moping and push to be in the team.


17.) 24 Dec 2018 16:59:06
Interesting that Barca's last few moves in the transfer market have turned out quite badly especially as they were very very expensive ones with Dembele not working out too well either. Methinks they need to up their scouting game.


18.) 24 Dec 2018 19:11:11
Scouting nonsense. Yeah they had best academy till Messi comes out. After that no one of note came of. Maybe I missed something.
The players they signed are the ones who are making name for themselves in the league. Suarez, Coutinho, Mascherano, Sanchez, Dembele, Rakitic, Neymer. They literally think they can play FIFA in reality.


19.) 24 Dec 2018 19:20:38
I wouldn't want Coutinho back at Liverpool if he came on a free or came begging, we don't need little turds like that at our club, the squad started playing much better when he left, people tend to forget pretty quickly how he thought he was bigger than the club. Not welcome.


20.) 24 Dec 2018 22:06:23
Bit condescending of you Salah considering VVD did the same at Southampton to get to Liverpool. Short memory mate.


21.) 24 Dec 2018 22:36:40
Love coutinho, but our performances and results without him easily matched when he was playing. Good deal for the club and totally agree that he is was 'almost' a passenger playing the #8/ #10 role at that time.


22.) 24 Dec 2018 22:51:10
I’ve watched Liverpool from the early 80s both sautes and mascherano have been some of the better players I’ve seen play for the club. Most players will spit their dummies out if they don’t get the moves they want. Don’t forget vid went on strike to get his move to us. Players want to play at the highest level, except that and realise all players are replaceable!


23.) 25 Dec 2018 00:03:52
Completely agree with the sentiment MK. however both Mascherano and Suarez have gone on to have very successful careers since leaving Liverpool, winning titles and cups. I don’t think they would describe themselves as in a hole 😂
🎄🔴.


24.) 25 Dec 2018 05:23:12
Shaqiri has his old position, sort of, so he would fit back into the team imho.
He’s a better player too.
But it’s not going to happen.


25.) 25 Dec 2018 03:34:24
Wouldn’t want him back, partly because of feining injuries etc to force a move but also because I think we are genuinely better without.

Question for the ED’s though (sorry to bring money into this) if he can’t get in the Barcelona team, will that affect payments to us? Would it be better if he got sold on it there were payments to us linked to a future sale? Just hoping we don’t get kicked on the payments.

{Ed002's Note - If he is sold any payments related to appearances and success don’t get paid. There are no payments for future sales.}


26.) 25 Dec 2018 09:42:15
Regardless of his behaviour when trying to get the Barcelona move, You’d have to consider what the deal would cost and what else you could get for the same price. Also, how our performances and results improved almost overnight after he left. Great little player but we’ve moved on.


27.) 25 Dec 2018 13:10:45
I loved Coutinho but disagreed with the way he forced a move away from Liverpool. We made Barcelona dish out 140 mil+ for him, how much do you guys think we'd pay to take him back? Would we pay 100 mil+ to get him back? I don't think so and I don't think Barcelona will let him go on the cheap as well. So, that pretty much settles the discussion about him coming back if you ask me.


28.) 25 Dec 2018 13:38:04
Coutinho is a no brainier. I would replace Lallana for him and Milner for Emre Can! I want them back!


29.) 25 Dec 2018 12:58:15
Is a Bobby/ Dembele swap possible Ed's, a few guys banging on about it last night saying it was a goer, Im thinking 5 year deal £100 mill added to any further deals with them surely not .

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what you mean about the money, but as I have explained there is nothing involving Liverpool at all and the club has had no talks with Barcelona about Dembele at all. Everyone is completely deluded about the money paid so far for Coutinho and what is still due - I have tried to explain this over and over again - to no avail of course.}


30.) 26 Dec 2018 10:34:31
Not for me, we have enough midfielders, and he wouldn't get in ahead of the front three, personally I think we have played better since he left.


31.) 27 Dec 2018 00:29:05
I wouldn't take coutinho back. He forced his way out and acted terribly to get his move to Barcelona. Our play immediately improved once he left, he didn't do the press as well as the current players we have. Also i feel because he was able to produce that bit of magic the other players seemed to rely on him to pull something out of the bag and try pick out coutinho when there was better option available. As for coutinho, i thank him for his service, but he forced his way out, and ultimeately, the club has moved on, we are in a much better position now compared to 12 months ago.


 

 

20 Dec 2018 16:40:45
Hi eds

Hope all is well. Are Liverpool looking at any left wingers or attacking midfielders who can also play left wing/ forward? I feel we could use one in the squad.

Oubaas van Zyl

{Ed002's Note - Obviously the club has Mane and Firmino and the club has looked at a Mexican kiddie but I am not aware of any efforts to add a LW at the moment.}


1.) 20 Dec 2018 18:06:45
Who’s the Mexican kid?

{Ed002's Note - Lainez.}


2.) 20 Dec 2018 18:53:50
Good evening ed002, thank you very much for your time in providing top class information. Me and my son wish you and your family a great Christmas.

{Ed002's Note - Thank you and you both have a nifty holiday season.}


3.) 20 Dec 2018 22:59:28
Apparently Lainez will be allowed to leave in Jan, his club president says Ajax and two other sides are interested. Do you know if Liverpool one of the other sides?


4.) 21 Dec 2018 09:51:55
Laxalt also of interest but probably not in Jan.


5.) 23 Dec 2018 13:46:56
Thanks for your reply Ed002. Have a great Christmas.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


 

 

09 Oct 2018 05:20:43
Hi eds

I heard a rumour that Leceister are interested in Clyne. Any truth to this? I note that his contract runs out in 2020 so it would be nice to get a small fee for him as opposed to him leaving on a free at the end of next season.

Oubaas van Zyl

{Ed001's Note - they are looking for a right back and if the price is right he would be an option for them.}


1.) 09 Oct 2018 08:11:13
Thanks a lot Ed001! Hope you are feeling well.

I think once he departs we are okay for cover given that Gomez and Fabinho can fill in there if TAA isn't available. This would also provide Ki Jana Hoever with a path into the first team.

On the other side I wouldn't be surprised if a replacement right back was brought in given that Ki Jana Hoever is still extremely young and that there is a possibility that Trent moves into midfield.

{Ed001's Note - and that Gomez and Fabinho are better in the centre as well.}


2.) 09 Oct 2018 08:40:39
Absolutely Ed001.

Quite a lot for Klopp to consider when fringe players leave regarding whether to sign replacements or promote youth. Luckily he has time to think about this.

{Ed001's Note - that is always the difficult bit, which is why so few managers stay long enough in a job to have to get the balance right.}


3.) 09 Oct 2018 11:31:50
Good move all around!


4.) 09 Oct 2018 19:26:57
Ed001 If Clyne leaves who do you want to replace him?

{Ed001's Note - I don't believe that we need to replace him right now.}


5.) 10 Oct 2018 04:09:29
Thank Ed001!

{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate.}


6.) 11 Oct 2018 06:27:58
Ed001, why are Leicester City looking at a right back? They already have Pereira and Simpson.

{Ed001's Note - Simpson is crap and is not happy being on the bench and Pereira is not up to much either.}


7.) 11 Oct 2018 07:44:36
Thanks Ed.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome. I should explain more, Simpson was always deemed as in need of replacing, even as far back as their title-winning season. Pereira was brought in to replace him, but he has been found to be lacking in basic defensive requirements, so they are not overly happy with him within the club.}


 

 

03 Oct 2018 16:23:59
Hi eds

With Moreno's contract ending at the end of the season, is Klopp looking to promote Adam Lewis as back up for Robertson? Any insight will be much appreciated.

Many thanks in advance.

Oubaas van Zyl

{Ed001's Note - far too early to say.}


1.) 03 Oct 2018 16:34:13
Thank you for your response Ed001

I understand that it would be too early to say. I will remember to ask around February.

Does Klopp rate him?


2.) 03 Oct 2018 22:30:56
With moreno probably leaving then, that could leave the door open for Lewis or Gallagher but it could also mean a new signing.


3.) 04 Oct 2018 10:30:08
Ed1 do you think Tierney from celtic would be a good shout to replace moreno?

{Ed001's Note - if he was currently interested in leaving Celtic then yes, but he won't move to back up Robbo.}


4.) 04 Oct 2018 10:45:25
Thanks Ed. I hear he's quite a versatile player too. But with Robbo doing so well he'd probably not be tempted.

{Ed001's Note - he can play left mid, as can Robbo, but we don't really play with a left mid.}


5.) 04 Oct 2018 20:59:30
Left centre half of a back 3 and if ya really stuck centre half although he isn't the tallest player


On thing about him he always looks up with his crosses to pick someone out.


6.) 07 Oct 2018 15:36:32
What's happened to that Juanma kid? A year or so ago, there was talk of him making the grade in future at left back.

{Ed001's Note - he didn't work out as expected, it happens.}


 

 

 

Oubaas van Zyl's banter posts with other poster's replies to Oubaas van Zyl's banter posts

 

24 Dec 2018 06:06:02
Hi ed1

Hope you are well. Who do you think our player of the season is so far? And also player of the EPL so far. The way things are going so far VVD could become the first defender since Terry to win PFA player of the year.

Oubaas van Zyl

1.) 24 Dec 2018 10:28:26
Alisson and Alisson.


2.) 24 Dec 2018 18:54:22
VVD is a great shout. Hadn't actually crossed my mind but if he keeps this form up then he'll definitely be favourite I'd think.


 

 

09 Dec 2018 04:53:38
Our festive fixture list is a lot better spaced this season.

After Napoli we have 5 days between each match except for the period between Newcastle and Arsenal which is 3 days.

Will probably see a Burnley type of rotation v Newcastle as Arsenal and City follow that match.

5 days between Arsenal and City again.

Oubaas van Zyl

1.) 09 Dec 2018 12:47:12
Yeah I think being out of the league cup makes a bit of a difference but yeah it doesn’t seem as congested as it did in the past but still it’s a tough schedule. If we come out of it relatively unscathed I’ll be impressed and will start to think about possibly winning something this season. Fingers crossed.


 

 

04 Dec 2018 04:44:00
Surely TAA deserved to be runner up in the U21 balon d'or award with the 2018 he has had. Don't see how Pulisic finished ahead of him.

Oubaas van Zyl

1.) 04 Dec 2018 05:49:52
he is a defender, How many defenders have ever won or been runners up like ever?


2.) 04 Dec 2018 07:00:54
akrubbish, only 4 defensive players have won it since it started in 56.


3.) 04 Dec 2018 10:21:50
There's always been a bias towards midfielders and forwards, for as long as I can remember. Never understood why but maybe because defenders are seen as less athletic, hard-working or something? But once in a while a balance is achieved when a Cannavaro wins the ultimate prize. 😉.


4.) 04 Dec 2018 15:24:24
Hi Ed001, could it be said that the signing and reliance of Shaqiri to provide creativity, and the subsequent shuffling of the team needed to accomodate him, was poor management from Klopp? I’m starting to think that while Shaqiri is a very good player, the shuffling around of salah and firmino it needs to accomodate him is somewhat cutting off the nose to spite your face. Maybe we’d of been better going for an option that is capable of playing with all our best players and not disrupting their games? Or at the very least, treating Shaqiri as more of a squad player that allows us to bring Salah and Firmino out of the team more regularly?

{Ed001's Note - we will only know how good or bad a signing he was when his time with us comes to an end.}


 

 

07 Nov 2018 05:04:36
Beat PSG and qualify for the round of 16 with a game to spare. If we lose to PSG we need to beat Napoli by 2 goals at Anfield to qualify. A draw in Paris and a win at Anfield against Napoli by any margin gets us top spot.

Oubaas van Zyl

1.) 07 Nov 2018 06:34:54
Unless nap hop of red star next match.


2.) 07 Nov 2018 07:42:52
Im pretty sure even if Napoli hit red star for 5, as long as we beat them at home by more than 1 we qualify as head to head record is the first deciding factor when teams are tied.


3.) 07 Nov 2018 08:17:55
Yep, you're right WY Red.

Points the same comes down to net Head to Head record (before GD) otherwise we'd be top of Group C right now.


4.) 07 Nov 2018 11:58:19
Not just nore than one if we score ten and they score 9 they get the spot. we kust need to beat psg. but i really hope we defeat both naples and paris.


5.) 07 Nov 2018 14:52:59
Beat napoli by 2 I hope it doesn't come to having to do that or we won't qualify. I'm fearing the worse in this group an fearing Thursday night football!


6.) 07 Nov 2018 20:13:50
As any group of death in any comp., who goes thru this group will more than likely come down to the last game.


 

 

23 Oct 2018 08:23:16
Hi eds

Hope all is well.

Random question but it has been on my mind for like 10 years hahaha.

Have the powers that be ever considered revising the point system to have 2 draws equal a win? (E. g have 4 points for a win and 2 for a draw or 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw) I know 10 years ago when the 08/ 09 team lost out on the league due to all those draws I thought the point system was unfair. Chelsea also probably think it's unfair to be unbeaten but be level on points with 2 teams who have lost 2 games each.

I don't mind the current system as it provides an incentive to go for the win but I always wonder if it has been considered to change it?

Thanks in advance Eds!

Oubaas van Zyl

{Ed002's Note - Yes, that is how it used to be until 1980. 1 point for a draw and 2 for a win (so two draws equalled a win). It was changed to 3 points for a win and 1 for a draw to give teams an extra insentive to win games. As such it won't be going back to the old system. Other nations took different approaches with several counties adopting a system where there would be no draws (the early days of the MLS for example) and there would be penalties taken to decide results. FIFA has considered this for the World Cup group stages to avoid strategic draws as well. But for the Premier League they won't change the basic points system but they have raised before having a potential bonus point based on goals scored - but I doubt that will be raised again.}


1.) 23 Oct 2018 10:20:56
Was it Jimmy Hill who introduced this system in 1980 or did he just suggest it?


2.) 23 Oct 2018 13:01:21
Mourinho’s teams would be back winning leagues if they give more points for a draw. That’s what he sets his teams up for.

{Ed002's Note - In answer to the previous post, it was indeed Jimmy Hill who came up with the proposal.}


3.) 23 Oct 2018 19:02:47
A bonus point for goals scored could actually work, in terms of making it more viewer friendly. But as things stand, City would run away with the league even more so as they just look at the ball and it goes in the goal at times. lol.


4.) 24 Oct 2018 23:02:02
Or maybe 3 for a win, 2 for a score draw, and 1 for a no-score draw would prevent teams setting up for a 0-0 at least?


 

 

 

Oubaas van Zyl's rumour replies

 

Click To View This Thread

23 Dec 2018 13:46:56
Thanks for your reply Ed002. Have a great Christmas.

Oubaas van Zyl

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


 

 

Click To View This Thread

17 Oct 2018 11:47:59
He's fit but now faces a battle to get into the starting 11.

Oubaas van Zyl

 

 

Click To View This Thread

09 Oct 2018 08:40:39
Absolutely Ed001.

Quite a lot for Klopp to consider when fringe players leave regarding whether to sign replacements or promote youth. Luckily he has time to think about this.

Oubaas van Zyl

{Ed001's Note - that is always the difficult bit, which is why so few managers stay long enough in a job to have to get the balance right.}


 

 

Click To View This Thread

09 Oct 2018 08:11:13
Thanks a lot Ed001! Hope you are feeling well.

I think once he departs we are okay for cover given that Gomez and Fabinho can fill in there if TAA isn't available. This would also provide Ki Jana Hoever with a path into the first team.

On the other side I wouldn't be surprised if a replacement right back was brought in given that Ki Jana Hoever is still extremely young and that there is a possibility that Trent moves into midfield.

Oubaas van Zyl

{Ed001's Note - and that Gomez and Fabinho are better in the centre as well.}


 

 

Click To View This Thread

03 Oct 2018 16:34:13
Thank you for your response Ed001

I understand that it would be too early to say. I will remember to ask around February.

Does Klopp rate him?

Oubaas van Zyl

 

 

 

Oubaas van Zyl's banter replies

 

Click To View This Thread

28 Dec 2018 18:32:01
I think it will be Keita Fabinho Wijnaldum. Same 3 as the Utd game and all 3 should be fresh after being rotated well.

Oubaas van Zyl

 

 

Click To View This Thread

16 Oct 2018 15:12:19
Current Squad and 07/ 08

Allison Finnan Hypia Van Dijk Riise- Gerrard Alonso- Salah Firmino Mane- Torres.

Oubaas van Zyl

 

 

Click To View This Thread

13 Oct 2018 12:45:18
Jack Rodwell is correct. So now that all 5 have been revealed. What's everyone's thoughts on how they developed? How did they either fulfil their potential or how did they fail to do so?

Oubaas van Zyl

 

 

Click To View This Thread

13 Oct 2018 11:42:39
Hazard, Shaqiri, Griezmann and James are correct so just the Championship player left.

Oubaas van Zyl

 

 

Click To View This Thread

13 Oct 2018 10:41:50
I clean forgot about Joel Matip! My bad! The Liverpool player is Shaqiri.

Oubaas van Zyl

{Ed001's Note - I thought Shaqiri had already been said sorry.}


 

 





Change Consent