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31 Jul 2015 13:01:14
Not sure if anyone else mentioned it here, just came to the page after a while. I am really disappointed with the way Balotelli, Borini and Enrique are being treated by the club. Isolate them from the squad as if they have a virus that contaminates the others? Is it even a good decision business wise ? Don't think I have seen us treating players like that because they are unwanted.
concerning transfers, editors sorry if this may come as redundant on you but is our business concerning ins over ? or any position we like to strengthen? perhaps a defensive midfielder or a left back ?

Mikias

1.) 31 Jul 2015 13:26:20
I am with all but Enrique. There's a reason we can't get rid of him.


2.) 31 Jul 2015 13:36:56
Respect your opinipn BUT many clubs do it all the time so nothing new there. Malouda was forced to train with the U21`s for a whole season at Chelsea and did not hear many fans at Chelsea moaning about it. If the players refuse to leave even tho offers are on the table for them and they know they are no longer needed and won't play, then whatever they do is their choice and if they wanna remain marginalized then that`s their decision because God knows I would NEVER allow myself to just train with the kids and not play for a whole season.


3.) 31 Jul 2015 13:53:18
Mikias, I'm pretty sure your thoughts are being clouded by your opinion of the management.

These guys are no longer part of the first team so when they team travels they're left on their own.


4.) 31 Jul 2015 14:26:47
Mikias

Whats the point in these players training with the 1st team if they are not apart of it , in training the manager and coaches will be going through the tactics they will be using in the games coming up , like marking and defending set pieces , if he let's any of these players train with the 1st team on these tactics then there will be confusion when it come to the prem games because a player could easily say i thought ballo was marking that player or this player that's why they are not training with the 1st team , that's what i think anyway as i'm not privvy to the managers thoughts , but i do know that we have done it before when other players needed a different traing regime because they were come back from injury and the 1st teams traing was to much , plus I've also read in papers its happened in other clubs in the prem , if these players were good enough they would be with the squad or other teams would be snapping them up , the fact not many are should tell you something , ballo could be a very good player if he applied himself better because he has the talent , borini is not as good as studge or benteke and enrique is just a sick note , he is getting payed a lot of money for being injured all the time , why not try to see how much he got while he was injured and not even being on the field of play,also with these players what happens if they get injured while doing the intense training , we would be stuck with players we don't want ,


5.) 31 Jul 2015 14:30:45
I don't feel very sorry for Borini. He must have known last summer he had little chance of starting any games, yet he turned down a chance to play for sunderland, perhaps in the hope that lfc would buckle and allow him a cheap loan move to italy. He gambled in refusing sunderland and it never paid off- unless you count him staying on tens of thousands of pounds salary each week as paying off.

Enrique it seems refuses to learn more discipline in his game, and is therefore not up to the standard needed for a club with CL aspirations.
Balotelli was a huge gamble that never paid off, and I think his very laid back approach and his wacky attitude to the game could well affect the motivation and the performance of other players, so I totally understand the need to separate him from the first team- although it is a harsh thing to do.


6.) 31 Jul 2015 16:41:12
For me I don't quite follow the logic behind being seemingly desperate to offload players while simultaneously expecting ridiculous offers for their services. Bizarre.


7.) 31 Jul 2015 18:15:59
I would have some sympathy if they weren't getting paid.


8.) 31 Jul 2015 17:44:11
So Liverpool publicly disrespecting players is different to players (sterling) disrespecting Liverpool is different how??

Sterling wanted to leave he did what he had to do. Liverpool want players to leave they do what they have to do.

Personally I think it's out of order what the club has done. The above players are only here because they were bought by the club and offered silly wages. If I was offered a new job in my profession that was worth a lot less then my current I'd stay whether or not I was wanted. Fans share a completely different loyalty than players.


9.) 31 Jul 2015 19:31:28
Mikias I completely agree with you. The players are still getting paid so should be doing the work and representing Liverpool in Finland rather than sitting on their backside. Surely we stand a better chance of selling a player for decent money if we make it 'look like' they still have something to offer us rather than letting the world know that we want rid asap (even if it is no secret that we want rid of the players). It just doesn't make any business sense at all.

Anyway, it seems like the near 30m Borini and Balotelli will end up on loan to Italian clubs with 'options to buy' but knowing us and Italian clubs, the option will not be exercised and will lead to another loan to buy from other Italian clubs next season.


10.) 31 Jul 2015 19:43:09
I have sympathy for Borini because he really, really wanted to do well here. At times he was trying too hard, I still think he is a decent player just not for Liverpool, and its not like he had the oppotunities.

Balotelli and Enrique I have little sympathy for, Enrique seems happy to pick up a check and Balotelli has all the talent in the world but little of the application, if I was him I'd make sure I was on the training pitch running my ass off after training has ended to try and make myself the best player I could possibly be and prove that I'm not the lazy player everyone thinks.


 

 

09 Jun 2015 16:48:48
Has Ilori ever played as a right back? they say he has a lot of pace and looks athletic. wondering if he can be used as a cover for that position

Mikias

1.) 09 Jun 2015 17:12:37
I don't think he will be a Liverpool player much longer.
Besides he would just be yet another player out of position.


2.) 09 Jun 2015 19:21:16
Or we could give the guy a chance at centreback, you know, the position he was bought for.


3.) 09 Jun 2015 21:00:41
We also bought sakho, lovren and toure though. Not to mention all the others we already had.
Why would he stay with that kind of competition while also knowing every centre back we have or had since Rodgers has been here have turned into terrible players?
I would be well gone if I was him, he's been messed about enough.


4.) 09 Jun 2015 22:54:46
Like Lucas, Agger, Sahko and Can left or will soon leave due to the way there or are being messed about


5.) 10 Jun 2015 15:34:55
stop thinking like rodgers


 

 

06 Jun 2015 00:16:05
Firing Pascoe & Marsh is a lot of micro management by the owners who don't know much about football. If they blame the management, why not just fire Brendan ? and who is advising them on these matters?
And what does it say about Brendan ? the manager who refused to work with a DOF now can't even have a say on his own staff. and he went along with it.
I think FSG knows the right move is to fire the manager, they don't want to do that because getting a new manager would mean a lot of spending and another rebuilding. Now just like Balotelli they will try to hire a known name of some ex players who may not have enough experience in management at all.

Mikias

1.) 06 Jun 2015 03:43:49
BR would have thrown them under the bus to save his own neck. Still doesn't believe any of this failure is down to him. He's probably sweating like Sepp Blatter right now.


2.) 06 Jun 2015 07:44:57
Isn't any of the failure down to the inept decisions of the owners? Transfer boards sanctioning moves for Balotelli when days prior Rodgers said bluntly he would never come. FSG need to sell to an owner in which we can be taken to the next level, or soon we will be dogging it out with West Ham for Europa football.


3.) 06 Jun 2015 07:51:48
He had the final say on balo? Rodgers did. Who bought Borini, aspas and lambert and never gave any of them a run of games? Instead choosing to play midfielders there.


4.) 06 Jun 2015 12:11:01
spot on


 

 

22 Jan 2015 04:18:04
Not a rumour but it looks like summer transfers are more or less coming good and I hope next summer we will go for quality rather than quantity.
In my own world Petr Čech, Alexandre Lacazette, Song, Nathaniel Clyne would be excellent and realistic additions. When Gerrard and Johnson leave, there will be a huge salary expense lifted off our books.
God help us in selling Balotelli, Borini, Aspas, Alberto and most likely Enrique.

Mikias

{Ed001's Note - why would you want Song? I don't get the way people rave about him. He is supposed to be a defensive midfielder, yet he doesn't track runners, doesn't make any effort to get back and gives the ball away a lot. He is big and strong and flashy, but he is not defensively minded, and so lazy it would lead to me throttling him if I was his manager!}


1.) Another RB mate?


2.) I would be happy with just Lacazette and Cech in the summer. If Lucas leaves, then a CDM would also be needed.


3.) 22 Jan 2015 07:59:26
Lacazette, Medel and Cech for me.
Also Wisdom and Illori back from loan into 1st team.
Ward as understudy keeper.

Sell .
Allen might also leave along with
Enrique, Johnson, Migs, B.Jones, k.Toure, gerrard, Aspas, Alberto, Balotelli, Borini.


4.) A goalkeeper is all we need in my opinion.
With young players being introduced.
I think its time we took stock of what we have and who we need to get rid of first.
Get rid of Enrique, Allen, Borini et al.
Look at who we can bring in to the first team squad from the academy and after that if we need any holes filled in the squad buy absolute top quality.

{Ed001's Note - that is how it should always be done. Only buy top quality for the first team, the cover should come from the academy.}


5.) 22 Jan 2015 10:30:21
Cech and Lacazette aren't realistic targets really will have better offers from clubs in the CL that can offer better wages.

Luis Adriano would be great for a free bit linked with juventus so maybe not, maybe Yarmolenko who is free this summer (more of a wide player though). Not see a lot but kokorin seems to have a good record as well and is entering his prime.

Clear out about 10-12 players and get a good forward, keeper, and if lucas goes DM. Then use our youth as have a lot and a few should make it, don't mind selling them on as long as they get a chance first.

Could even make a profit next summer and still challenge for the title as squad is actually good. Just lacking in a few areas


6.) 22 Jan 2015 12:36:15
I agree with you ed001,we should only buy top quality.
We need to bring in.
Keeper
right back.
Toure is getting older.
2 midfielders
Top quality Striker.
Mignolet will be back up.
Johnson and Gerrard are leaving and need to be replaced.
Lucas will properly leave and we need to replace his defensive qualities.
Top class striker .
So i think we need to bring in 5/6 players,
Wisdom,borini,enrique,balotelli,illori,coates,alberto,aspas don't have a future with us.
But i still have a feeling balloteli could come good with sturridge up top.
We have some youngsters with qualities none are ready yet but in time some will be.
Rossiter,kent,ojo,wilson,williams,sinclair and maybe mclauglin/smith.
We should give some of them some some minutes next season.
Malta


7.) We have 3 right backs excluding Johnson or marko who's playing as the wing back.


8.) 23 Jan 2015 03:29:59
Editor 1, may be I haven't watched enough west ham games this season. I thought he was a quality defensive midfielder and he is being rated highly this season. We need another defensive midfielder. we needed that since Alonso and Mashcerano left. ideally I would like someone like Wistel or Martinez but Liverpool can't afford the fees and wages for that kind of player.

{Ed001's Note - he is far from quality, he is highly rated because he is quite creative, but he is lazy and is never in position defensively.}


 

 

 

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22 Jul 2016 13:15:17
Clearly Klop doesn't think high of the young defenders. He doesn't want Ilori and wisdom at all. Lucas is a midfielder, you may play him as a defender when there is a crisis but you shouldn't start a season considering him as a center back option. In modern football its difficult to play inexperienced center backs unless they are very talented, strikers continuously put pressure on defenders and in so many occasions goals are scored because of errors. I believe this is one position where the ability to read the game matters the most. when Gomes is fit he will get a chance if he is better. it's not like seniority is a criteria when he selects his line up.

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03 Jul 2016 04:05:09
obviously it's because of the TV deal. no idea why Ed 02 disagreed with that comment. i don't think they can afford to bid that much with out it.

Mikias

{Ed001's Note - because you are wrong. They could not afford to spend that much because of the TV deal. Why do ignorant people argue when it is clear they have no idea what they are talking about? Palace were taken over recently by an extremely well-financed group who are pumping money in. That is why they can afford it, not because of the TV money, which they have not received yet anyway.}


 

 

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14 Jun 2015 15:46:11
didn't Aspas say Sevilla were obligated to make the move permanent according to the loan agreement. he made an interview early on when the season ended that he was sure his move to Sevilla would permanent.

Mikias

{Ed002's Note - Sevilla paid the fee due to Liverpool and sold him right on - this was always a likely scenario - try the search engine.}


 

 

 

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25 Jun 2015 13:56:43
I was also surprised with the pictures when Firmino isn't officially our player yet. one question to you editors: James pearce said that When Ayre flew to Santiago, the best he could hope for was a verbal agreement but things went very smoothly and we were able to sign the player. not the exact words but that is what he said. does this mean that there is a signed agreement already in place and it can only be revoked if he fails medical or liverpool are unable to acquire a work permit for him ? what kind of agreement is that? Can for instance other teams sneak him before he becomes an official liverpool player ? Really surprised those pictures were out

Mikias

{Ed002's Note - Any agreements are subject to the completion of certain activities and the player will sign his contract once those activities are done - and those activities will be reflected in the agreement with Hoffenheim.}


 

 

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04 Jun 2015 19:44:27
nice formation but you have one extra player there.

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02 Jun 2015 19:42:15
if its a straight swap deal, who assigns the value?

Mikias

{Ed002's Note - In exchanges the values are assigned by an independent committee working on behalf of The FA - those values are passed to UEFA.}


 

 

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23 Jan 2015 03:29:59
Editor 1, may be I haven't watched enough west ham games this season. I thought he was a quality defensive midfielder and he is being rated highly this season. We need another defensive midfielder. we needed that since Alonso and Mashcerano left. ideally I would like someone like Wistel or Martinez but Liverpool can't afford the fees and wages for that kind of player.

Mikias

{Ed001's Note - he is far from quality, he is highly rated because he is quite creative, but he is lazy and is never in position defensively.}