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26 Jul 2017 16:46:30
Hey Editors, Liverpool obviously have problems in doing transfers and that is affecting us more than it does to the clubs we want to buy from. But speaking of legality and being ethical, here we hear Coutinho agreeing deal with Barcelona or that they are confident of of landing him. That kinda of information to sky has to come from the club. If this is not true, they are doing it on purpose for whatever reason. If that is not illegal, it should atleast be unethical. So still confused what Liverpool did to make them so worse than the others. Asking this because specially ed002 is disgusted with the way Liverpool do business.

Mikias

{Ed002's Note - Sure I would be pleased to satisfy your need to understand what Liverpool and Klopp did again - but I suspect others are sick of reading it. I have no idea what Sky have said but there is no suggestion of any wrong doing but if anything his agent may, on instruction from Coutinho, have overstepped the mark in his discussions with Barcelona. Coutinho should also not have requested Neymar to speak to Barcelona on his behalf. There is no suggestion that Barcelona has made any illegal approach to the player at all.}


1.) 26 Jul 2017 17:35:36
I think what he's getting at Ed is Barcelona briefing the press as to their intentions in an attempt to unsettle the player. Seems we are not the only ones that do it.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of them doing that. Did they do that a couple of montsh before the end of the season to a few who were to go out and deliberately unsettle players and give interviews to others. I have explained for the past year about Coutinho and his efforts to move to Barcelona. And whilst Liverpool are absolutely bottom of the pile in terms of behavior, Barcelona are likely the fourth worst offender.

You want to stop trying to push the blame aware and bring others in to it. You are simply making the Liverpool fans even more of a laughing stock.}


2.) 26 Jul 2017 18:23:41
Jesus ED002 you really don't seem to like the Liverpool fans, club or manager very much do you. Fewey!

{Ed002's Note - I have nothing against them but they keep asking the same things over and over again and they keep trying to justify the repugnant behavior of Klopp and saying everyone else does it - they don't. Right now both Southampton and Leipzig have players who are damaged good because of Liverpool -and I appreciate that there are plenty of morons who think this is a great way to business - it isn't.}


3.) 26 Jul 2017 18:46:17
Ed02 am i right, sorry if im wrong, that youve said for sometime, that couts has- privatley trued for a Barcelona move- while publicly being happy to be at lfc?

{Ed002's Note - I have spent a year or more explaining what he has done.}


4.) 26 Jul 2017 18:56:03
We are just trying to understand your point of view ed. You have yet again used a hugely derogatory adjective to describe Klopp and Liverpool's behaviour. From the outside looking in it looks like most other clubs behaviour is just as repugnant. We could now be left with a player in Coutinho that is 'damaged goods' because of Barca's advances and strategic use of the press. Not trying to justify anything we've done just observing what is clearly going on. I've said before tapping up is rife in the game and to think it's not is just plain naive.

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing whatsoever to do with Barcelona or Coutinho. You don't seem to get that using UNPROFESSIONAL AND ILLEGAL MEANS LIVERPOOL HAVE DAMAGED TWO ROFESSIONAL PLAYERS CONTRACTED TO ANOTHER CLUB. THEY ALSO DESTROYED THE CAREER OF A 12 YEAR OLD BOY, LEAVING HIS PARENTS IN DEPT. THEY HAVE SUBMITTED FRAUDULENT AND FALSIFIED DOCUMENTATION TO AN INVESTIGATION THAT THEY ALSO LIED TO. THEY ALSO TRIED TO PERSUADE THE PARENTS OF THE CHILD TO LIE. THEY ARE ALREADY SERVING A BAN. THEY HAVE A COURT CASE COMING THAT HAS POSTENTIALLY VERY SERIOUS RAMIFICATIONS BECAUSE OF ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE. THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY BOTTOM OF THE PILE OF EUROPEAN FOOTBALL.

Thank you for yet again bringing this up.}


5.) 26 Jul 2017 19:36:22
Ed2 the court case coming you have mentioned is that separate to this stoke kid or is it that case. As I believe that one is going on now. On the Stoke youngster I see his dad was quoted as saying it's a widespread issue in football and not just liverpool although I can't remember the issue he was talking about. Is there anything the fa or uefa can do to stop this or is there just to many loopholes in which clubs use to get around signing the young kids, other than the transfer bans. I would like to see the singing of kids stopped if possible the amount of kids who get signed for big money then just dissappear from the game is crazy.

{Ed002's Note - It is related. Tapping up of kids is a widespread issue - what Liverpool did is not.}


6.) 26 Jul 2017 19:47:57
Can those of us on here who keep trying to push the blame for our horrendous tapping up nonsense on other clubs under the pathetic excuse of "hey you see, everyone does it so what's the problem? " or go read Ed02 posts on the issue or just stop asking the same pathetic questions over and over again.


7.) 26 Jul 2017 19:51:46
Can you not just all leave it? I really don't get what the issue is here.

It's like now you're trying to say that Ed002 is making the situation to be far worse than it is. Clearly he isn't.

I can remember, albeit a while back, Ed002 saying that he actually had a bit of a soft spot for Liverpool and used to really respect the club (pretty sure I'm not imagining this? ) .

He's clearly involved in the game to a large degree and I'd imagine when you see and understand, first hand, the serious ramifications that our behaviour has caused it becomes hard to brush that under the carpet. Couple that with being asked everyday why we're being targeted for abuse and why he has some personal vendetta with Klopp and Co its going to grate like f*ck on you, which it clearly has. He's only human like the rest of us. In many respects for him to ignore it would make him a bit of a knobhead so just try and think about this before constantly going down the same boring tunnel over and over.

Everytime a deflection is possible people seem to start asking how it's any different to us etc. It's dragging this page down at times.


8.) 26 Jul 2017 19:53:01
This tripe is getting extremely old, why can't most fans swallow that bitter pill yet¿
We are not that brilliant club everybody seems to remember.

And couts wants to leave. He's been engineering a move HIMSELF.
Let him go, we can't behave the way we have been behaving and expect other clubs just to sell up.
It's disgusting.

The people who dislike like comment are the people who need to swallow that pill and move on.

ED2 has said it plain and simple for the past god knows how long, no matter how many different ways you ask the question the answer is still the same.


9.) 26 Jul 2017 20:41:14
for you ED02 I've been a Liverpool supporter since 1970 and believe me has scousers we've been hated and blamed for heinous acts that have no truth or very little substantiated truth. yes there is good and bad but collectively I've seen our supporters do heroic things which I know has not been publicised or for that matter even talked about again by our supporters. My question to you mate is what the F##k are you doing on this site. Just go lad and on to a site you support Manure at a guess?

{Ed002's Note - Totally agree with what you are saying in the first sentence. As to your question, I have not set anything that is not true. As to the "Manure" comment, I suspect you spend too much time with your arms stretched out making airplane noises. You personify the rubbish.}


10.) 26 Jul 2017 21:07:04
I only brought this up to get an opinion not to get a clear answer. Here are the facts I know, Ed2 saying Coutinho is asking for the move for a long time, Klopp saying he is not leaving, Coutinho signed a contract that would make it hard for him to leave, and Coutinho's strong words on how he wants to stay at Liverpool. Anything is possible I know but none of it is straight forward.
As far the business is concerned, many of us here Don't know what goes on behind the scene, but for the most part I take your word on it, you seem to know where the line is drawn but for the rest of us what we see is, we have two of our players affected by transfer dealings and two others affected by our club. Whether you do it through agent or another player the outcome is still the same. At the end of the day, it's what the player wants. Nobody felt sorry for Liverpool when mascherano refused to play and Barcelona bought him for cheap. Business is business, it has never looked pretty.


11.) 26 Jul 2017 22:27:59
Lolt, Ed2 is far more welcome on this site than the likes of you.


12.) 26 Jul 2017 23:39:13
Spot on PutneyRed👏👏 ED2 is heart of this site, without him I wouldn't have known how footy is run.


13.) 26 Jul 2017 21:31:51
I did see a few things mentioned although it was a few weeks back so can't remember to much of the detail other then changing the dates on the paper work but it was embarrassing an amateurish what was mentioned. Is there anything they can do to prevent these transfers. How many times is it a young kids plays a handful of games at a low club the all the bigger clubs are sniffing around I'd rather they stay where they are till a reasonable age before moving on rather then rot in an academy of a top club. I think deli alli is the perfect example for younger players coming through and they should look at players like bostock or whatever his name was who went to spurs from palace I believe and is unheard of now.
Also my point wasn't a dig at ed2 or anyone or to say it's not just liverpool who do it, it was is there any way they can prevent it happening at that level. Maybe I should have worded it better the only relevant part in it to Liverpool was the court case part.


 

 

21 Jul 2017 22:42:55
Call it conspiracy but here is how I think Liverpool ll try to handle VVD's transfer.
They will wait until someone else bids for him, they may even wait until it's accepted. And they will try to match that in the last minute. But I think it will be too late like it was with Salah few years back. You can only ask so much of loyalty from a player that hasn't played a single game for us before.

Mikias

 

 

21 Jul 2017 07:22:00
so if I understand ed02 right, when Liverpool say Coutinho is not for sell, it has everything to do with price but for Keita no means no.

Mikias

{Ed002's Note - I don't understand what your point is. Point me at whatever post you seem to see an issue with.}


1.) 21 Jul 2017 09:24:21
Transfers are more than a matter of money. Contract length obviously plays a part but also promises made to a player, squad management etc will all be involved. I have no idea how this applies with RBL and Keita or with us and Couts (eds? ), just pointing out it's not black and white.


 

 

16 Jul 2017 16:45:56
I know a lot has been said about Robertson.
But my question is, Do we want him as a backup for Milner or will Milner move to his natural position and be used as a backup for Robertson.
In other words, are we looking at him as someone who ll get into the starting 11 immediately?

Mikias

1.) 16 Jul 2017 17:06:43
Some fans have dismissed it but I think the fact he's an actual LB he should be given a chance in the starting 11 personally.


2.) 16 Jul 2017 17:25:42
Totally agree ST as a natural LB he has to be a starter.


3.) 16 Jul 2017 17:26:28
I'd agree with you, Tomato.

Also, is Joe Gomez's natural position as a LCB or RCB?


4.) 16 Jul 2017 19:30:16
If both Keita and Robertson arrive along with Van Dijk, I honestly can't see where Milner will play. We would have enough cover at full back with

Robertson.
Clyne.
Alexander Arnold.
Flannaghan.

Centre mid I can't see any chance when we would have Keita, Henderson, Can, Wijnaldum, Coutinho with both Salah and Mane wide.

Could it be possible we would move him on? I do like Milner very professional and hard working player and man. I just thinked if th pet rumoured three transfers happen where would he fit?

He'd be a great buy for someone like Bournemouth in my opinion, dare I say I think he'd be an excellent buy for Everton.


5.) 16 Jul 2017 19:53:18
Jonesred, more likely to see Flanagan moving on. He hasn't had a run of games since the 2013-14 season. In fact he's only played 18 competitive games in the last 3 seasons, because of the awful injuries he has suffered.

I reckon Milner will cover both LB and RB, and may even be first choice RB depending on how the pre-season goes.

Based on Robertson joining, of course.


6.) 16 Jul 2017 20:23:27
Milner will be a utility player next year. Can fill in at full back, midfield or wing. So would be a good player to have on the bench.

{Ed025's Note - i agree ted..


7.) 16 Jul 2017 21:07:10
Problem for him is he wants more regular football. I could see him leaving due to that. We still have Grujic as well as youngsters.


 

 

08 Jul 2017 20:55:55
Hey editors, don't come here very often but when I do it is hard to catch. If I want editors comments on a particular subject, how do I get it? Would like to hear ed1 and ed2 comments on some of the players we have been linked.
Going to transfers, Lucas Digne is the players we are linked with recently, he was linked to us in the past but I wonder if this is true now? He is not getting regular games at Barcelona and I wonder if the player is interested in moving to England and if Barcelona ll let him go for the right offer .?
Cheers.

Mikias

{Ed002's Note - Try the search function - enter the name of the player - then search the page for Ed001, Ed002 or whatever.

I am only aware of one side shoiwing an interest in Digne and it is not Liverpool. Liverpool has identified the LB they want.}


1.) 08 Jul 2017 23:25:05
Ed, are you referring to Robertson or are you hinting at some exciting new transfer rumour?

{Ed002's Note - As far as I know enquiries for Celestine Babayaro have gone nowhere and we are back to Robertson right now.}


2.) 08 Jul 2017 23:56:13
Heard it here first, Babayaro is coming out of retirement to solve all our problems :-)

Thanks for clarifying ed2.


 

 

 

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22 Jul 2016 13:15:17
Clearly Klop doesn't think high of the young defenders. He doesn't want Ilori and wisdom at all. Lucas is a midfielder, you may play him as a defender when there is a crisis but you shouldn't start a season considering him as a center back option. In modern football its difficult to play inexperienced center backs unless they are very talented, strikers continuously put pressure on defenders and in so many occasions goals are scored because of errors. I believe this is one position where the ability to read the game matters the most. when Gomes is fit he will get a chance if he is better. it's not like seniority is a criteria when he selects his line up.

Mikias

 

 

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03 Jul 2016 04:05:09
obviously it's because of the TV deal. no idea why Ed 02 disagreed with that comment. i don't think they can afford to bid that much with out it.

Mikias

{Ed001's Note - because you are wrong. They could not afford to spend that much because of the TV deal. Why do ignorant people argue when it is clear they have no idea what they are talking about? Palace were taken over recently by an extremely well-financed group who are pumping money in. That is why they can afford it, not because of the TV money, which they have not received yet anyway.}


 

 

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14 Jun 2015 15:46:11
didn't Aspas say Sevilla were obligated to make the move permanent according to the loan agreement. he made an interview early on when the season ended that he was sure his move to Sevilla would permanent.

Mikias

{Ed002's Note - Sevilla paid the fee due to Liverpool and sold him right on - this was always a likely scenario - try the search engine.}


 

 

 

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26 Jul 2017 21:07:04
I only brought this up to get an opinion not to get a clear answer. Here are the facts I know, Ed2 saying Coutinho is asking for the move for a long time, Klopp saying he is not leaving, Coutinho signed a contract that would make it hard for him to leave, and Coutinho's strong words on how he wants to stay at Liverpool. Anything is possible I know but none of it is straight forward.
As far the business is concerned, many of us here Don't know what goes on behind the scene, but for the most part I take your word on it, you seem to know where the line is drawn but for the rest of us what we see is, we have two of our players affected by transfer dealings and two others affected by our club. Whether you do it through agent or another player the outcome is still the same. At the end of the day, it's what the player wants. Nobody felt sorry for Liverpool when mascherano refused to play and Barcelona bought him for cheap. Business is business, it has never looked pretty.

Mikias

 

 

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25 Jun 2015 13:56:43
I was also surprised with the pictures when Firmino isn't officially our player yet. one question to you editors: James pearce said that When Ayre flew to Santiago, the best he could hope for was a verbal agreement but things went very smoothly and we were able to sign the player. not the exact words but that is what he said. does this mean that there is a signed agreement already in place and it can only be revoked if he fails medical or liverpool are unable to acquire a work permit for him ? what kind of agreement is that? Can for instance other teams sneak him before he becomes an official liverpool player ? Really surprised those pictures were out

Mikias

{Ed002's Note - Any agreements are subject to the completion of certain activities and the player will sign his contract once those activities are done - and those activities will be reflected in the agreement with Hoffenheim.}


 

 

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04 Jun 2015 19:44:27
nice formation but you have one extra player there.

Mikias

 

 

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02 Jun 2015 19:42:15
if its a straight swap deal, who assigns the value?

Mikias

{Ed002's Note - In exchanges the values are assigned by an independent committee working on behalf of The FA - those values are passed to UEFA.}


 

 

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23 Jan 2015 03:29:59
Editor 1, may be I haven't watched enough west ham games this season. I thought he was a quality defensive midfielder and he is being rated highly this season. We need another defensive midfielder. we needed that since Alonso and Mashcerano left. ideally I would like someone like Wistel or Martinez but Liverpool can't afford the fees and wages for that kind of player.

Mikias

{Ed001's Note - he is far from quality, he is highly rated because he is quite creative, but he is lazy and is never in position defensively.}