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12 Aug 2023 18:21:55
Good evening Eds and reds,

I wanted to give my two pennies on the Lavia and Caceido situations.

With Lavia the kid isn't worth 50 million and less than the 40 odd million we bid first. I'm happy that we didn't sign him because paying 50 million for a CDM that hasn't even become a proper CDM is nonsensical for us right now.

With Caceido it is very similar. The lad form Colombia isn't worth 111 million but with CDMs that can actually make a difference and start for us being a commodity right now in the window, this transfer does make sense.

I personally wouldn't mind seeing a stop gap this season because a long term CDM will not solve our vulnerability at the back. I think Amramabat would be ideal as a stop gap for 1 maybe 2 seasons and then he can become a fantastic squad player once we actually sign a world beating CDM.

If I had the choice and final say in transfer at Liverpool, good thing I don't, I would rather spend most the Lavia money on Amrabat. In the transfer window next summer, there will be a whole host of players who are currently an unknown quantity right now that will be on the radar. I reckon the only name that stayed from last summer's interest was Bellingham. Who would have thought last summer we would have been bidding 111 million for some columbian lad or bidding 50 million for some youth player from Man City.

Heck even Alexis Mac Allister wasn't a household name last summer. Nobody had heard of Mitoma, Julian Alvarez was a random player from Argentina and KK from Napoli was a Georgian kid with a difficult name to pronounce.

New players and better player emerge every season, it is the natural cycle of football. Therefore a real stop gap, not the Arthur type, would be good for us.

Anybody with a counter on this debate, you are more than welcome to open my eyes.

YNWA.

MCR

1.) 12 Aug 2023 18:53:24
Ambrabat is not interested in joining. klop supposedly offended them back in jan.


2.) 12 Aug 2023 18:55:56
I'm sure we could try palace with 60m bid for dacoure (spelling) and if they except use the rest of the caicedo money for a lcb.


3.) 12 Aug 2023 18:57:33
I would like to see us sign Adams from Leeds but I am reading Chelsea are backing out because of his medical. He’s not a player with a horrible injury history but I read he’s expected out maybe another 3 months instead of a few more weeks. And ed002 has said no interest. But he’s a proper DM. A leader. despite the accolades the US team gets right now, most of them going to pulisic and balogun, Adams was the heart of the team.


4.) 12 Aug 2023 18:59:08
Caicedo is from Ecuador if it makes any difference to you.


5.) 12 Aug 2023 19:01:50
Stop gap signing I've never worked for Klopp. I could list a load of names but I'm sure you know who i mean. Lavia is 2 years younger than Caceido but isn't that far off his level. Unless we have scouted others properly then we'll have to bid more for him. Add a centre half as well and we'll compete.


6.) 12 Aug 2023 19:15:52
Amrabat will not happen. There are plenty of DMs still around though.


7.) 12 Aug 2023 19:24:26
60m for Dacoure in this summers over inflated market seems like very good business.


8.) 12 Aug 2023 19:26:39
Newcastle looking half decent against Villa. I hope we have our Adam sorted by then!


9.) 12 Aug 2023 19:39:21
Part of our vulnerability at the back is due to the lack of protection in midfield. Last season Fabinho and Hendo were off the pace leaving defence exposed and in pre season we’ve not had a true CDM in place.
I’m all for identifying a lesser known player rather than letting other teams make huge profits on them, but we’ve been very poor at this.
Lavia seems very highly rated and I think just match Chelsea offer to get him in if he’s the clubs choice, unless they go back to Thuram. I don’t think we can afford a stop gap. Koopermieners seems a good option, but probably not on the radar.


10.) 12 Aug 2023 19:46:32
Caicedo is a top player. I honestly see little risk with him. He will be great but the money was huge.

Lavia to my eye will be a great player but there's risk. I know it's an inflated market but I think the price Chelsea are paying is too high.

I genuinely don't know anything about finances. All I know is that Chelsea were in trouble with FFP last year which I understood their sales helped resolved and now look like spending a tonne again. I doubt they are stupid and I'm sure there's a plan but I'm assuming Chelsea will calm down in the market over the next few windows. It doesn't seem sustainable to me to spend at this level for much longer.


11.) 12 Aug 2023 20:15:09
For a starter Caicedo is twice the player Rice is who went for £105 mill. He is a bloody brilliant player.


12.) 12 Aug 2023 20:40:28
A stop gap this year will cost us champions league football again the longer you are out the harder it is to get back in.
We needed 2/ 3 more in quickly.


13.) 12 Aug 2023 20:47:08
I’d be more tempted to make Trent our proper DM (not a hybrid RB/ DM, full on DM)
Use some of our mega millions to fund a new proper right back as well, the best we can get.
Go back to playing 4-3-3.
Then the DM conundrum is solved for free, the Robbo conundrum is solved for free as well.
Then sell Matip and Phillips and upgrade by bringing in a left footed CB.
And a versatile midfielder who can cover DM.
Then just pick up the title in May or late April ??
I wouldn’t be spending that kind of money on Caicedo, I think the lads got talent and he’s got chemistry with Macca already, so he would be a good signing if he actually wanted to join us and prioritise football rather than the bright lights of London’s nightclubs.
That kind of money could be used on a Right back, centre back and a versatile midfielder and we would be much better off for it.


14.) 12 Aug 2023 21:03:58
Is he though? know its over simplifying but can't get my head around calling Rice nd Caicedo brilliant. To me they are players who try win and get the ball to the ACTUAL brilliant players. Know Jones is as far as the percieved No.6 as you can get but as long as he presses nd passes as usual on Sunday i'll be happy.


15.) 12 Aug 2023 19:30:34
Amrabat is one dimensional…. let him go to Man Utd.
Not one for LFC.


16.) 12 Aug 2023 19:32:51
Jaysus, Caicedo must have learnt a lot in them extra SIXTEEN Premier League games than Lavia MCR.


17.) 12 Aug 2023 21:54:35
@TJRed I agree about Adam’s. Would love to see him come over. For £20m would mit he least offer squad depth and as you mentioned he’s a leader, he also appears to be a genuinely nice guy as well. That said he’s also a wind up up merchant and he has no problem getting stuck in. That’s something we could definitely use in the team.


 

 

18 Mar 2023 17:46:24
Good evening eds and reds, hope you are all well.

I've seen a few superstar names thrown around here for summer transfers, Jude, Barella and Gvardiol to name a few. I've also seen some more realistic names such as Mount, Brandt and Inacio. It's great being linked with all these players but what I really want is a couple of consistent central midfield players who won't break the bank and will easily play around 50 games a season. The last midfield player we signed of that mold was Gini, a player who left the club years ago but is still one of Klopp's highest appearance makers at Liverpool - 237 over 5 season. (He has made more appearances for Liverpool than Naby and Thiago combined)

In a simple world, I would rather take 2 or 3 consistent players who can make 50 appearances a season no problem, who aren't world beaters, over a £150m Jude or a £100m Barella. The particular reason for this circumstance would be, in my eyes, consistency is better than a world beater. Once a world beater, Thiago for example, gets injured or loses form, it has massive repercussions on the team. Whereas a consistent player, let's say Gini for arguments sake, will hardly get injured and when he does, like in the past, it wasn't difficult to take that cog out and replace it with another consistent player, like Milner; in the past consistency under Klopp has always worked for us.

My question for you all is, would you rather take one amazingly talented superstar name over 2 or 3 consistent players who will tick along nicely under the radar. And no cheating because I know Jude can make a 100 appearances a season and he's incredibly consistent.


Ps there are 2 or 3 consistent midfielders I can think of who would do nicely.

YNWA.

MCR

1.) 18 Mar 2023 17:56:08
Why do you think Jude Bellingham won’t make 50 appearances? Bellingham is a generational talent. Klopp wants him. Absolutely he wants him! Can we please sign him.


2.) 18 Mar 2023 18:14:24
MCR - i think you make a great point and I would have taken a consistently solid midfielder that fits into our way of playing over the world class but injury prone and not ideal for the premier league Thiago. There is no doubt Thiago is a great player but imo it was a mistake signing him instead of a younger, Caceido type player. We did well last year but I'm not sure he helped break down teams that much - see 3 cup finals with ZERO goals.


3.) 18 Mar 2023 18:16:33
Jude Bellingham would’ve costed £130m last summer.

Then we decided to “wait” for this summer, because he’d be cheaper.

His asking price this summer is £130m once more.

Now tell me, what’s the point of waiting a year and wasting a season, only to pay the exact same amount?


4.) 18 Mar 2023 18:18:35
My question for you all is, would you rather take one amazingly talented superstar name over 2 or 3 consistent players who will tick along nicely under the radar.

We had the option to do this last summer and chose to wait for the “Right player” so what changed exactly? His price is pretty much the same as it was 13 months ago!

{Ed001's Note - what changed is the willingness of the player to move after promising to give Dortmund one more season.}


5.) 18 Mar 2023 18:30:31
I think he had already promised Dortmund one last season. I don’t think his price was ever going to be anything below £130 million.


6.) 18 Mar 2023 18:32:53
100% get what you’re saying and the point you are making but I think 50 games a season is the high end of a scale.

With how we’ve got on in the cups this season I don’t envisage us playing many more than 50 games over the whole season. I think playing 40 games (I mean good minutes not last min sub appearances) a season consistently is a pretty good return for any player over a season with how squad rotation works these days.

I’m sure we have a couple of plans in place because a Bellingham will cost 130 mill and not going down that route could see us bring in 3 x 50 mill players at a cost of 20 mill more.


7.) 18 Mar 2023 18:35:42
Just to add to my point Allison has made the most appearances for us this season (36) and if he plays in the final 12 games then he’ll finish the season on 48.


8.) 18 Mar 2023 19:06:50
I am sorry JK. If we had gone that route then we would have had Ben Mee and Jordan Pickford instead of VVD and Ali. Thankfully Klopp was adamant who he wanted and got it! He is adamant again today and FSG should get him what he wants!


9.) 18 Mar 2023 19:20:48
Capital Income agree mate. I should have added I’d rather a Bellingham over the 3 x 50. But I was trying to point out what the options might be.


10.) 19 Mar 2023 03:34:36
@Capitol, question for you - who said Bellingham was the ‘right player’? He certainly wasn’t last year as he had committed himself to Dortmund fo4 this season.


11.) 19 Mar 2023 06:39:44
WDW, and to add to that, Klopp didn’t event want Bellingham as his first target as we all know (the “right” player was Tchouameni) cos if Laimer at RBL for ex, had agreed to come to us last summer, he would have been here and not Jude nor Arthur so this idea that Klopp always wanted Jude last season as his main target is not even true based on his own actions.

As for how much he would cost and whether ot would be better to get 3 solid players instead of just him, it depends on what if Klopp thinks he is worth it over the 3 mid’s we could get for the same price.


12.) 19 Mar 2023 07:31:04
So Bellingham is not the main target then? Despite the club extensively scouting him for the past 12 month. Despite the manager talking to his parent to influence the sale! Yet he isn’t Klopp’s primary target.
I know where this is heading to. The Top reds fear FSG wouldn’t cough up the money so let’s spin the wheel and bring up a nonsense excuse to cover it. Suddeny they are now finding alternatives! What an irony!
Sorry Oli red, you were the one rallying here for not signing alternatives while the club has learned from Keita and OX.


13.) 19 Mar 2023 08:45:40
@Capitol, we scouted Bellingham at Birmingham and he chose Dortmund because he would get game time.

He has always been on our radar and some people will tell you that he and his family are big Liverpool fans and that he’s always wanted to play for us. He may be the main target this year, he may not. I’m not privy to the club’s transfer plans.

What I said was he wasn’t the main target last year as we knew he wasn’t for sale. Tchouameni was available and I believe we had agreed to meet the player’s terms via his agent but that was as far as it got because the lad himself wanted to play for Real Madrid.

What I would say is that any club announcing their primary target before are transfer window would be short sighted as they could obviously expect a hike in the transfer fee from the (potentially) selling club.

If you think that’s might attempt to ‘twist the story’ I apologise as that certainly isn’t what I’m saying.


14.) 19 Mar 2023 09:36:01
CI, Bellingham might not have been prepared to come last summer. A WOrld Cup in the middle of the season may have had some bearing on that, too?
At the level he is playing and at his age do you not think he is worth waiting a season for?


15.) 19 Mar 2023 10:06:01
Tchouameni to Real was announced on the 11 Jun 22. Well before the window even opened in July.

I think Ed002 said we spoke to his agent but never actually submitted a formal bid. M

You’d like to think that when the window opened we actually had other targets apart from someone who had agreed a move a month prior.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp illegally met with the player but no offer was made to his club.}


16.) 19 Mar 2023 10:54:56
It may seem pedantic but it isn't illegal to meet a player.

{Ed002's Note - It was an illegal approach to a player of another club.}


17.) 19 Mar 2023 10:55:55
Why would fans make any excuses to cover anything?
It's not fans who decide who the club signs so it's pretty irrelevant.
The truth is nobody knows who the club is aiming to sign, anything else is just rumours and smoke.


18.) 19 Mar 2023 11:32:30
The meeting MIGHT have contravened football rules but it is not illegal.
Tapping up is part of football, we know it happens but it is not against the law. It MIGHT break the rules of the game but I doubt any court in any country would decide that it is illegal for Klopp and Tchouameni to meet. Even if it was an attempt to acquire the player's services.

{Ed001's Note - you do realise football has laws not rules? A lawbook not rulebook. So before pontificating it would be best to check you are in fact correct. It is never good to correct others when you have it wrong, it just makes you look silly.}


19.) 19 Mar 2023 11:37:43
Kone of Gladbach looks a very good player to me. Fast aggresive skillful. Ithink i've seen a figure of around £30 million mentioned. CB at Frankfurt on a free, maybe those two with the two big signings we are being linked with, providing the money can be found, from sales, investment etc. My opinion of Trent is , let the lad have a go in midfield, i know a lot of people disagree, just my own thoughts. I can remember the late great Bob Paisley moving Ray Kennedy from a forward to a left sided midfielder, other examples down the years, a nd Trent was a midfielder all the way through the ranks. My thoughts. Fingers crossed Klopp and the club can get it right for next season. Y. N. W. A.


20.) 19 Mar 2023 12:03:34
What makes you think I'm pontificating or wrong, Ed002?
Maybe we are both using different definitions of the word 'illegal' but seeing as Klopp hasn't been found guilty of breaking football laws, then how was it illegal to allegedly meet Tchouameni?

{Ed001's Note - I am not Ed002 and you are wrong. Factually incorrect. This is embarrassing give it up. Pedantry is fine when you are right but you simply are wrong. You can't even read an ed's number and you want to try and tell us what is right or wrong!}


21.) 19 Mar 2023 12:33:33
Ed001, my mistake; I didn't realise that you had joined the discussion between myself and Ed002. I apologise but can you tell me what law Klopp broke in meeting Tchouameni, please? Was anything ever proven? Was he found guilty of anything?

{Ed001's Note - so now you are just being deliberately obtuse. Last answer because your ignorance is tedious when you are too pig headed to accept being wrong due to it. If you break a law that is illegal regardless of what is proven or otherwise.}


22.) 19 Mar 2023 14:22:45
Capital like Flash said, why would fans cover for the club or owners for anything as if they have control over anything? Your projection is stunning as it is hilarious.

All we are doing is giving our opinions on Corrie matters based on the info we gather esp from the Rd’s. Nobody has control over anything so what would we cover for the club? Klopp wanted Tchouameni as his first target or the “Right” player, NOT Jude even tho, we scouted Jude for however long.

Cos we scouted him that long does not mean he was wanted for this season. Players get scouted ALL the time and doesn’t mean they will be signed. The transfer guru you are should know that.


 

 

03 Mar 2023 15:35:43
It's said to see that Bobby is leaving us in the summer. It can be argued that he's the best Brazilian to ever play in the league, factually the top scorer and top assistant maker in the league as well as being the most stereotypical Brazilian flair player we've had. He has unmatched technical ability and a footballing brain to rival the best in history. The last present from Brodgers and a hidden gem, he stands alone in my eyes as the clubs greatest Brazilian ever.

Good luck to the lad wherever he goes and I'm sure whichever club he decides to join, they're going to have some player on their hands.

YNWA.

MCR

1.) 03 Mar 2023 16:19:42
He's certainly up there mate. What a legend.


2.) 03 Mar 2023 16:47:54
One if the absolute best players to get wear the famous re shirt. Bobby made football look easy, entertaining and outright fun. The last of the old school Brazilian players with flair, skill, guile and played the beautiful game like he was dancing the samba. I will miss him dearly.

As for him being a gift from BR, I think I remember this topic differently. If BR had his way, Bobbie wouldn’t even be here and the best thing to happen to Bobbie was BR getting the sack cos Jurgen arrived and gave him the glittering career he has in the PL. BR gets NO credit from me. Just saying.


3.) 03 Mar 2023 18:06:14
My favourite player in the Klopp era. What a guy!


4.) 03 Mar 2023 18:29:45
Great player, decent human and a truly wonderful set of teeth, thanks for everything you’ve done for the club and very best wishes wherever your future takes you Bobby.


5.) 03 Mar 2023 19:33:54
He was always me favourite player. So selfless.


6.) 03 Mar 2023 19:57:18
Genuinely sad that Bobby will be leaving
Great player, seemed like a great guy for the club.


7.) 03 Mar 2023 21:40:36
I remember when he first joined, Rodgers didn't know what to do with him. Played him on the right wing and it got nowhere. Klopp came in and said "I know all about Roberto Firmino" as in "I know exactly what to do and where to play him". And we saw the turning point with that Coutinho-Firmino-Mane attack. And the rest is history. Easily the most feared and respected front trio in PL history with Firmino right smack in the middle.

Sad news, but it was inevitable, one day or another. I wish him all the best wherever he goes. Bobby Dazzler.


8.) 03 Mar 2023 22:12:55
I’ve always thought that Klopp was the reason that Liverpool signed Bobby. I remember Rogers in the press conference looking like he’d never seen him before in his life. I reckon Klopp had already agreed to sign at that point.

I do love a good conspiracy theory though.


9.) 03 Mar 2023 23:17:20
BR even played him tight wing back didn't he? ha!


10.) 04 Mar 2023 00:29:11
A sad day indeed.


11.) 04 Mar 2023 07:33:08
Iv been one of his biggest critics as his powers have waned in the last 2-3 years, but his attitude, commitment and part played in the club winning everything that could be won (bar Europa) cannot be underestimated. A job well done.


12.) 04 Mar 2023 19:41:55
I have a feeling Rodgers will get Leicester relegated this season. Playing Bobby at wing back on the few times he did pick him was 1 in a long line of tactical masterclasses. Do believe he did so partly as Bobby wasn't his signing and Benteke was his messiah.


13.) 05 Mar 2023 09:29:34
Rambo8 if he stays there long enuff, most definitely will at some point. The guy is absolutely dreadful as a manager.


 

 

06 Jan 2023 21:44:39
Good evening all and eds, hope this new year finds you well.

I want to give my opinion and ask some questions on what I've seen this season so far and the second half of the last, from a fan standpoint. During the three season period between 17/ 18 and 19/ 20, you could see we had an obvious identity of working harder, running longer and being more physical than the opposition. There was a hunger there from the players to achieve and become greatness, you could see it all over the pitch. Since the turn of 2022, from what I've seen and concluded from my very limited football knowledge, that hunger and desire has disappeared.

I've read a few posts and replies from the eds specifying how we transitioned from a we'll outrun and outwork you sort of team to one that relies on technical ability. Not only that, I've also read on this site how Pep Lijnders has taken greater responsibility in the team.

My opinion on this is simple, don't fix which isn't broken. We had a winning formula that worked very well and I also understand we had to evolve to beat the likes of Real and even the lesser teams that sit back. However the transition to a more technical team has made us susceptible to teams who will work harder, run longer and be more physical than us.

It's funny how our previous identity is being used by other teams to best our current identity. A perfect analogy for this is having a sniper rifle in a game that is perfect for your way of playing but you see an RPG on the floor that is completely different to your style of play. So instead of being the great sniper you are, you run around the map with a bazooka hoping to get more kills but you get sniped off by another sniper instead using the sniper rifle you just dropped.

Or when you're at the casino and your numbers are coming up constantly with rewards. But you decided to change your winning way to a way that'll give you higher returns but with a much higher risk. So you decide to place all your money on the second style and your previous number comes up again, losing all of your money.

Or being with a partner who is the most amazing person in the world but they can't cook an omelette so you dump their ass for someone who can. But then you see your ex partner with someone else having the time of their life and your stuck with a person who can cook an omelette but that's all they got.

Now for my question before I continue on this tangent, can anyone with more knowledge than myself explain why we transitioned from a winning strategy to a strategy that isn't working?

Onwards and upwards.

YNWA.

MCR

1.) 06 Jan 2023 22:14:04
Golfers do it all the time. They win a major or a few majors and then suddenly think they should improve one aspect of their swing to try to improve. Nearly all are never to be again. It’s called not being satisfied or arrogant. The problem we have now is we don’t have one midfielder who can press the ball properly.


2.) 06 Jan 2023 22:14:58
But what if you really really want an omelette?


3.) 06 Jan 2023 22:27:43
Are you Shappy in disguise?


4.) 06 Jan 2023 22:34:05
I think the reason we've tried to alter our style is because from C.V., there has been a more congested fixture list and with governing bodies continually looking for more tournaments + games to create more revenue our management has felt we can't continue at pace we where. if u look at amount of injuries teams are suffering at minute I think there is no doubt the amount of games top end players play is taking its effect on them.
I'm not saying management is right in doing that but I guess that's the reasoning behind it.


5.) 06 Jan 2023 22:36:47
Cheers MCR I’ve wanted to write a post like this for a while but I couldn’t be arsed… you’ve said exactly what I’ve been thinking ?.


6.) 06 Jan 2023 22:59:37
Neil Atkinson from the Anfield Wrap speculated that the Klopp and coaches may have assumed that the majority of teams would play with a low block, so developed the tactics with that in mind. And to their surprise, every team in the PL has instead has ditched the low block against us (and City btw) and attacked us like its a free hit.

Could it be a miscalculation of opposition evolution? I don’t know but interesting take.


7.) 06 Jan 2023 23:09:31
I sure do like a good omelette. That would be a tough decision for me.


8.) 06 Jan 2023 23:33:28
They don’t play with a low block against us because they’ve clocked we’re crap at defending. The reason they started playing with a low block in the first place was because Alisson, Trent, Robertson, van Dijk and Fabinho all came into the side and we were much better at it. We weren’t the basket case we were in the early days of Klopp, so there was no point in trying.

The problem isn’t an unfortunate tactical miscalculation, the problem is that we’re rubbish and we invite the pressure onto us by being rubbish, like a shark is drawn to blood. Like so many things in life, it’s all about momentum and is something of a self fulfilling prophecy.


9.) 07 Jan 2023 00:28:03
Since the turn off 2020 that hunger and desire has disappeared?
We were two games away from winning every trophy that we could have won.
We lost out to Man City and Real Madrid. We lost the League by a point and we lost 1-0 to the most successful side ever in the CL.
I hope we lose our hunger and desire evey year from now on.


10.) 07 Jan 2023 00:47:42
It wasn't that long ago that we were moaning about teams working us out and us not being able to break down a low block. We needed a number 9 to put away chances. If we don't draw with Spurs at home and if Courtois isn't MoM in the CL final, we win everything.
We sign a number 9 for big money but now we want someone like Robbie Savage in midfield.
Some of you will never be happy with your football team. Maybe you are expecting too much of them and need to look closer to home for the reasons why.


11.) 07 Jan 2023 00:48:12
It’s a fair shout FPF, it makes sense. More teams do seem to be ’having a go’ more than in previous seasons, a quick look at the table shows that something has changed slightly.

Unfortunately, as you’ve pointed out, it also coincides with a change in tactics for Liverpool.

Ironically, we’d have loved for teams to have come at us in seasons past. It would have made for great viewing and I think we would have come out of most games on the winning side.


12.) 07 Jan 2023 04:48:02
Imagine being in that Liverpool midfield. You’ve been asked to Go again and Again every season getting no help from the past 8 Transfer Windows.
And you look over at your closest rivals who need to address their “Weakness of no true Number 9” and they go sign 70 goal a season Haaland.
Imagine being Fabinho ? Isit any wonder really. All he wanted was a Caicedo to help him, and he got Melo who’s played about 14 minutes in 6 months.


13.) 07 Jan 2023 07:29:14
I can imagine being Fabinho on his £150k. Week. Fancy house etc. he has just had / months off for goodness sake. Some, me included would say he’s had 6 months off.


14.) 07 Jan 2023 08:46:52
LiverpoolFC8

I agree, Fabhino must be pretty vexed knowing Klopp has money to spend on the midfield…Then to top it all, buys Gapko - I get he can’t sleep at night mate ?.


15.) 07 Jan 2023 09:43:42
It’s highly likely our mids don’t want another brilliant mid being bought as it means they’re less likely to get game time - and that’s all most footballers want is to play win, draw or lose.


16.) 07 Jan 2023 10:58:37
'All Fabinho wanted was a Caceido to help him. '
How do you know that, LFC8?


17.) 07 Jan 2023 11:50:58
You lot are so far behind ? I told you we needed midfielders in summer and you denied it.
Now it’s a system issue or we’ve gone stale we need to change formation. Haha nope we still need 2 midfielders.
It’s nothing new The players have done this before when we didn’t sign a Center back.


18.) 07 Jan 2023 13:36:48
Yeah, it was amazing that season alright, LFC8. You kept going on and on about how the players had 'downed tools' over no CB being signed.

But it seemed it only took the loan signing of Kabak and a £2m punt on Ben Davies (who never played) for them to pick their tools back up for the last third of the season to secure top 4 though didn't it?

So we just have to do the same in midfield now to rescue the season? Already have Melo on loan to match Kabak, so we just need the Ben Davies cheap punt signing now and all should be well until the summer when we can get Nunes and / or Bellingham. Any suggestions?

Or maybe things are a little complicated than that.


19.) 07 Jan 2023 13:43:11
Who said we didn't need midfielders, LFC8? I said we needed two, at least. We signed one on loan, so we did get one in.
Can you also tell me why we didn't get a player like Tchouameni, Valverde or Caceido?
And how would our front line have looked without Nunez and only Salah (with any experience) fit?


20.) 07 Jan 2023 14:52:55
@Rigsby, we bought a number 9 who can’t basically score! People keep saying he needs to get used to the system…. yeah that’s fine but that doesn’t excuse his shooting ability (more lack of) . Then we go out and buy another winger who looked good playing in a poor league, when we should have used that money to buy another midfielder. An interesting stat I read the other day but our forwards have missed the most clear cut chances than another team in the league. Added to that, our midfield provides not drive and can’t score either, as well as no cover for our defenders, who are shaky enough as it is, and you have a recipe for disaster. I’d like to see carvalho play more, and as an attacking midfielder, rather than left wing. I don’t think Elliott is good enough yet, always seems to panic when under pressure and is not strong enough on the ball. As for our main midfielder 3, only Thiago is playing well but he’s always a game away from being injured. The other two have lost their speed, drive and desire and add nothing to the midfield if you ask me. We need to buy a midfielder this window, it’s simple as that. Get rid of ox, Keita and Milner, even if you give them away for free, at least it frees up some money as they come of our wage books. That midfield rebuild should be a priority. I also think klopp needs to stop being so loyal to players who aren’t good enough and be more ruthless. That’s how old whiskey nose was so successful at man Ure. Keeping players who offer nothing tells me either klopp don’t give a damn or he actually doesn’t know what he’s doing. I love klopp but he needs to stop breastfeeding some of these players and just move them on!


21.) 07 Jan 2023 16:07:10
I've seen Nunez score with my own eyes, KloppisTopp. He will score more goals for us, I'm certain of that.
I'm even going to predict that Darwin Nunez will score five headers for us before the end of the season. He's not even that good in the air but I think he'll get some better service with the addition of Gakpo.

How would we have done had we signed a midfielder instead of Nunez in the summer? We'd have Salah as our only fit and experienced forward. How do you think that would have affected us the past few months?


22.) 07 Jan 2023 16:09:28
Everyone that was totally wrong in summer like Something red will literally point fingers at anything other than the obvious gaping hole in the middle.
Blaming Pep Linders is the new one ?? it’s amazing
Yeh to be fair Rigs you did say we need 2/ 3 mids, and I’ll agree with that. I love Nunez tbh mate, it’s the likes of Diaz and Jota that I’ve started to blame even more. I don’t know the percentage of games they've missed since signing for us but I reckon it’s very high and not good enough. Nowhere near good enough.


23.) 07 Jan 2023 17:11:19
LCF8, you said the players downed tools over no center half being signed a couple of seasons ago and are doing the same now cos we haven't signed a center mid.

Except results would suggest that a couple of seasons ago, those players started playing again after we signed two players from the bargain bin. One of whom we didn't use, and the other we only used for a few weeks.

So either, you're wrong and the players didn't down tools. Or the same players that get all butthurt over lack of signings also have very low standards about what signings make them happy again. In which case let's sign a midfielder for £2m and not use him to make them play again.

Note that this is not the same thing as saying we didn't need a midfielder. We did need a midfielder because we signed one for £60m who's rubbish and another one for £40m who's been permanently depleted by injury. Those two should be at their peak now and be the legs of the midfield, but they're not. That doesn't mean the players have downed tools over it though.


 

 

25 Dec 2022 06:24:16
From when this used to be one rumour page for all teams, to the ed's being known as editors and back when Rafa was the manager - thirteen years have flown by.

Thank you to the eds, this is the only site I visit every single day. You guys have put in an untold amount of work into this site.

Long may it continue and may God bless us all.

You'll Never Walk Alone.

MCR

{Ed001's Note - thank you MCR, that really is such a nice thing to say. Have a Merry Christmas to you and all your family and take care. Merry Christmas to all posters and lurkers.}


1.) 25 Dec 2022 08:41:26
Been here same amount of time, amazing how its evolved over the years. Best source of info tho for lfc. Appreciate it eds. Take it easy.


2.) 25 Dec 2022 09:00:36
Couldn’t agree more MCR. This is the best site on the net bar none.
Happy Christmas to all the Eds and to everyone in the Liverpool FC family.


3.) 25 Dec 2022 09:58:20
Stumbled upon this site in the summer of 2012 and I was hooked from the jump. I have learned so much from this site and the people in it and not just about football BUT about life in general. We have laughed together, cried together and grieved with one another during these periods and indeed, we are a family now, I feel.

Many thanks to the Ed’s who work tirelessly to make this site what it is. Their graciousness towards us the posters regardless of whatever crap we post (I’m the worst culprit, btw) they keep allowing us to post our views. I thank you all for allowing me to be on this site. I’m the better for it.

Have a wonderful holiday season and let’s keep the LFC flag flying the highest come 2023. Peace and Love to you and yours!


4.) 25 Dec 2022 13:27:16
Great Post Oli
Wishing everyone a happy festive period, and here's hoping that it will be a prosperous new year for us all.


 

 

 

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09 Sep 2022 11:39:01
Looks like it now.

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22 Jun 2023 15:54:56
Thuram and Veiga would give us the height as well as the energy we need.
Gravenberch is an amazing talent, you can see him being an unsung hero in many trophy winning sides - a Gini if you like.
Kone is like a Lallana type but with speed and robustness therefore he would be ideal for Klopp.
Barella is a very good player. A better player than the others mentioned however I think he's one we should have went in for a few years back because I don't think the player he is now is what we need.
Amramabat is overrated for me, if we really want a defensive midfielder then I think we should look for one for the future. Hussein from AIK would be ideal in my eyes with his efficient break up play and eye for a pass forward, if he is willing to take a rotation role at Liverpool for the next 2 years or so.

I would love to read your thoughts other posters.

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10 Dec 2022 17:06:08
He had a classy game, backs to the wall in the second half but nothing short of an inspired and organised display from him.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say he's the James Rodriguez of this tournament.

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16 Sep 2022 12:22:21
Watching Thiago play is like laying on a beach drinking an ice cold beer while being serenaded by a beautiful woman.

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17 Jun 2022 21:59:20
What about his first goal for Liverpool against Arsenal at the Emirates? Collects the ball on the right wing, muscle a couple of defenders off the ball, cuts in onto his left foot and then unleashes and rocket into the back of the net. It's either that or that cheeky backheal versus Watford I think.

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De Gea

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De Bruyne

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