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16 Dec 2015 11:15:58
Hi ed1 if your about, looking ahead to the summer apart from potential departures of milner, allan, ballotelli, markovic maybe mignolet who else do you think will likely leave as it seems again that quite a few players will go? And can you see us going on another stupid mad splurge or hopefully bring through some youth players to perm fill the postitions and only fill the areas we really are clearly weak in?

Lfcnirvana

{Ed001's Note - it is a bit far away to know yet mate. Though I would like to see Allan kept and Joe Allen might well be on the move in January.}


1.) 16 Dec 2015 12:07:01
Sorry yeah meant joe allen! Any idea were he might be iff to ed? Thanks for reply as always you guys do a great job keeping us fans informed!

{Ed001's Note - he was likely to be off back to Swansea but have to wait and see if the new manager will want him.}


2.) 16 Dec 2015 12:53:17
Ok cool shame its never really worked for him i guess he just isn't good enough for a team like lfc.


3.) 16 Dec 2015 14:38:20
But if of any merits to the team. Milner should go first, J. Allen is much better than him.


4.) 16 Dec 2015 23:32:52
Milner is better than Allen in about 4 different positions on the pitch imo.


5.) 17 Dec 2015 14:37:34
Agree that Milner has more to his game than Allen, but he has yet to really step up. His passing, decision making and first touch has been consistently poor.

We all know he has the quality. He just needs to show it more.


 

 

 

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12 Feb 2018 12:09:21
Ed1 not liverpool related at all but why does everyone think neymar will join real madrid? is he of serious interest to them andi assume that's why PSG have bought Mbappe also as i guess he will be neymars replacement if he does go?

Lfcnirvana

{Ed001's Note - this has been addressed on our Real Madrid site.}


1.) 12 Feb 2018 12:24:58
Lol but they got Mbappe in the same window. Why buy him at all if they bought his replacement at the same time?


2.) 12 Feb 2018 13:05:48
Maybe PSG knew Neymar would never hang around long enough, hence the Mbappe signing. let's be honest, Neymar will go to Real this summer or the next, hence why I am confident Real won't sign Salah. Real's first choice is Neymar to replace Ronaldo and they are looking to Icardi or Griezmann as their new No.9 which is close to 300 million euros worth of talent alone. They won't have another 150 million kept aside for a luxury signing like Salah. Also, Perez is a big Hazard fan so he might go to Real as well this summer.


3.) 12 Feb 2018 15:53:32
Salah is going nowhere in the summer. Not after only 1 year. He has scored goals so of course there will be rumours. Surely Real would go for kane before salah, kane has proven he can do it year in year out. I keep expecting the salah bubble to burst. He is pure class though and I wouldn't swap more for anyone.


4.) 12 Feb 2018 16:15:26
Moves for Kane, Hazard or Neymar will all have to fail before they come for Salah in my opinion. Not to mention that they need to find suitors for Ronaldo, Bale and Benzema despite them all being on wages they don't remotely justify. Maybe Ronaldo does based on the exposure he brings globally, but he's not worth the wages he demands on the pitch anymore. I can't see them selling the other two easily. Certainly not both early enough in the summer to make two big moves for a Galactico replacements! Transfer sagas for big players get drawn out until the wire and Premier League clubs will be turning off the fax machines much earlier than normal so Kane, Hazard and Salah may be unattainable. No way will they get all 3.

Madrid will have an idea of how they want this summer to go, and I personally just can't see everything falling in to place for them in one summer window. Salah recently said he wants to win trophies here and was a boyhood red, and although that is definitely just lip service, it does suggest we shouldn't struggle to convince him to give us at the very least 1 more year.

I must stress this is just my opinion though and i have no, nor do I claim to have any, inside knowledge about any of these clubs or players! I'm just speculating like everyone else.


5.) 12 Feb 2018 18:15:06
While Salah has been saying he wants to win trophies and is a boyhood fan he has had he agent sounding out Madrid, so it is indeed lip service. I think it will be more of a case of Liverpool putting the "not for sale" sign up to keep him 1 more year and less of trying to covince him to stay. If he got the chance to join Madrid this Summer then he would be gone in my opinion, boyhood fan or not.


6.) 12 Feb 2018 19:26:23
Give him a new contract 🤝.


 

 

28 Aug 2017 15:17:33
Well looks like liverpool might have started forward planning after all keita to replace Can a year in advance lol get a CB in, and another midfielder and hopefully we can at least win a trophy and top 4 this season!

Lfcnirvana

1.) 28 Aug 2017 15:22:45
Keita's the replacement for Coutinho, not Can. Klopp still expects Can to sign a new deal.


2.) 28 Aug 2017 15:25:53
Keita isn't replacing can. a) he will stay longer and b) it's to replace pipco.


3.) 28 Aug 2017 15:36:09
How is it to replace Coutinho, if he's being loaned back to RBL? I would assume Lemar would be Coutinho's replacement if the bid for him is true.


 

 

24 Jul 2017 13:47:07
HI Eds

Not wanting to open a can of worms but all this talk of liverpool targets who were wrongly tapped up (no denying it) are looking likely to put in transfer requests - my question is, can a club refuse a transfer request and hold the player to their contract? Or is there any law that states they have to release the player if a transfer request is put in? I just understand the point in them if there is no law to state that if one is put in the club have to adhere to it if a decent offer comes in?

Lfcnirvana

{Ed002's Note - No, they can simply reject it.}


1.) 24 Jul 2017 13:53:57
ok thanks ed2 can i ask what is the point in the transfer request if it can be rejected? is it just to make the public aware the player wants to leave?

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with the public, it is simply a player saying I am pissed off and I want to leave.}


2.) 24 Jul 2017 14:09:39
If it was FIFA, the board would get sick of the moaning and sell the player behind the managers back for half his value. let’s hope that happens *rolls eyes*.


3.) 24 Jul 2017 14:20:07
Cool thanks ed2!


4.) 24 Jul 2017 14:42:58
Also the player forfeits any contractual loyalty payments as far as I'm aware.

{Ed002's Note - Not quite, they lose the 5% payment from the transfer fee that they would otherwise get. Loyalty payments are made within the provisions of the contract and vary on a case-by-case basis Ron.}


5.) 24 Jul 2017 15:33:51
Thanks ed002 👍.


6.) 24 Jul 2017 15:35:46
question 002,is it possible (not in relation to any player) that the amount could be anything other than 5%? just wondering.

{Ed002's Note - No.}


7.) 24 Jul 2017 16:09:31
Ed2, I keep seeing you and Ed1 mentioning this 5% of the transfer fee. Please excuse my ignorance, but is this 5% mandated by FIFA, the FA or just a standard clause/ provision in modern-day footballing contracts?

Cheers and thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - It is in the FIFA regulations.}


8.) 24 Jul 2017 18:11:24
ah fifa regulation, thanks 002.


 

 

04 Jul 2017 09:45:32
Hi Ed1

Im a bit confused with liverpools current recuritment drive! Why are we looking at keita and VVD when we need a left back as priority?

Do we really need another midfielder and CB when we have gomez sitting in the wings?

I thought the priority would be fill the postitions we are weak in that have no real youth players to fill the gap, we are screaming for a LB so why are we looking to spend 140 mill on an average defender and a midfielder we could get cheaper in 12 months! it makes no sense, i thought klopp coming in might have sense to address the issues in the side then look for improvements if they were required, but we just seem to be going mad and looking to bid ridiculous prices to show were still a big club?

Lets get who we need in and concentrate on that first, the likes of everton, man utd are doing it just reminds me of rodgers with the suarez money buying players we don't require in positions we are fully loaded in?

Lfcnirvana

{Ed001's Note - I have no idea mate, it makes little sense to me either. We should be getting the priority positions done first, worry about the rest later.}


1.) 04 Jul 2017 10:08:10
I'm so chuft we signed salah but we didn't absolutely need him. I am also surprised we didn't sign what we needed first. God forbid we miss out and don't get a LB.


2.) 04 Jul 2017 10:25:11
Beats me too, Ed.


3.) 04 Jul 2017 10:28:35
Hi Eds, Question to mainly Ed01, I know you have reservations on Robertson, like a few others on here, and I don't confess to watching him much. My question is do you think he looked ordinary because who he had playing with him and the more pressure he was under, therefore do you think he could improve in our current side (more attacking options to choose) or has he not the basics? As he seems the most likely I would be glad to hear anybodys comments? Ta.

{Ed001's Note - he was under less pressure there than he would be at Liverpool, so it is certainly not that. His problem is not just that he tends to fluff his lines when the pressure is on, it is that he is very positionally suspect. While most full backs are these days, that is still an issue for me. If he was contributing more going forward, then you can put up with him being a little ropey defensively, but Robertson's crossing is very hit and miss. Sometimes his delivery is good, he will hit a succession of good crosses that are let down by the forwards. However, he will then make a complete hash of the next bunch of crosses he attempts. It is not even simple things that are wrong, it is not that he is running too fast and so slices a cross, which is something that can be easily worked on. It is that he gets distracted by anyone closing him down, or by looking up and not then returning his focus to the ball etc. That is why he goes to pieces under pressure as he loses his focus on what he is doing.

That seems to me to be something that would be very difficult to fix. Top class players need to be able to play the ball without focusing on it. They should be able to look up and still hit the ball cleanly to the player they have spotted. I am not sure he has the ability to do so.}


4.) 04 Jul 2017 11:30:26
On his crossing Ed could be a confidence in players around you type of thing.

As you say he can pick good crosses that are let down by forwards that can play on the mind that maybe you need to do more with the next crosses leading to poorer ones.

Confidence in players around you is a big thing for me prime example being cbs and keeper a good keeper that the defence has confidence in makes a huge difference to how freely you can play. maybe I've stretched that a bit here for the lads crossing troubles although I haven't seen enough to overly comment.


5.) 04 Jul 2017 11:55:39
Thanks, I think haha, Ed01.

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}


 

 

04 May 2017 21:40:08
Hi ed1 prob not going to be liked for this lol but here goes i've been having a debate lately about fergie the ex man utd manager i personally think he is over rated for what he achieved and all this he's the greatest british manager ever etc just doesn't sit with me. Why do you think he had so much dominance in the league for so long what were his strenghts and weaknesses i would say his europe success was a major weakness tbh but success is 2 champ leagues in 26 years apparently. i was born in 83 in aberdeen so don't recall his europe win with the dons but i beleive this was at a time when aberdeen had lots of money a bit like man u as when he was scotland manager he was unsuccessful what's your thoughts on fergie and how successful / good was he actually?

Lfcnirvana

{Ed001's Note - he certainly isn't the greatest British manager ever, Paisley was. So, if someone rates him as that, then they over rate him. However he was an excellent manager, though a lot of his success was rooted in bullying officials.

It started in Scotland, when he would instruct his players to intimidate officials in order to get decisions to go the way of his team. His excuse there was that he needed to do something to even up the advantage that the Old Firm otherwise had of being favoured by the refs. In England, it just added to the advantage of being in charge of the big team that get the balance of decisions going their way.

His strengths were his man management, he did not treat all players the same, he knew when to give a player leeway and when to be on his back. His treatment of Cantona, who would be allowed to get away with almost anything, because Fergie knew he would put in the effort on the training ground and pitch anyway. He was careful to try and protect the team and it made them grateful to him, which made them try harder.

He also was not afraid to delegate to the right people. Fergie was not a hands on coach, he would have a number 2 who ran the training, which freed him up for other things.

The main weaknesses were tactically he could be done, he suffered in Europe because it was more tactical. He was good, but not top class, which is not enough in Europe most of the time. You need to be top class when you get to the final stages.

The other weakness was his dictatorship turned sour in a lot of ways, costing the club a lot of promising youth players who would not sign for his son's agency.

To be honest, he had so much more money than the competition for huge portions of his reign that it is difficult to really judge him. Even the team of 'kids' was far from a youth team. It had a core of expensive signings with a few kids sprinkled in. For the time it was a hugely expensive squad he assembled, though it does not look it now. Money still has to be spent well to be an advantage though, so that has to go down as a strength, he spent well, in the early days.}


1.) 04 May 2017 22:39:02
For me he's one of the greatest manager of all time. The amount of time he spent at the highest level and continued winning trophies for so long its unbelievable. don't forget he continued building United squad/ teams w/ o struggling in epl which is amazing.

{Ed025's Note - im with you kopite..


2.) 05 May 2017 05:10:07
He won the league a few times in the end with a terrible team of players (imo) that as individuals you would really want but somehow always got over the line.

{Ed001's Note - his longevity alone, in terms of continuing to win trophies, make him one of the greatest. However, no one can compare to Paisley's incredible record and the way his team dominated the whole of European football in a way no team before or since has.

However, Fergie is up there with Busby and Clough etc as arguably the second best ever.

Realised I missed a couple of his strengths out above. He was ruthless with those who needed to go, for whatever reason, unlike say Shanks, who was too loyal. It was only at the end of his reign that he stuck with players who were not good enough.

Also his decisive substitutions were a big part of his success. Unlike many other managers, he was always willing to make changes to go for a win. Or, if he had been done tactically by the opponent, he would look to make changes to wrest control of the game from the opposition. Many managers will just have their players drop deeper and try not to lose by too much but Fergie ALWAYS wanted the win.}


3.) 05 May 2017 07:07:25
ED001.

I'm so pleased to read your post regarding Fergie. I gave similar debates with a group of pals that support ManU.

They just can't admit, have the sense, do not know their clubs history or are just too young to realise that Fergie spent huge in his early days to secure his first league title, remember it took him from 86 to 92 to achieve this!

Martin Edwards funded Fergie for big money named signings from 91 onwards, knowing that the riches of the premier league were just around the corner and of course the club first floated on the stock exchange in 91 to help find the new stadium and invest in the team. It really Dora's make me laugh then they slate city and Chelsea for busing the league lol.

I remember going to old Trafford away in the early days and seeing "Fergie out " banners around the stadium. The investment given to him by Edwards and the money jnjected into the club from the first floatation certainly saved his arse.

{Ed001's Note - you have to congratulate Edwards for having the sense to realise that Fergie needed backing rather than replacing. Also Fergie has to be congratulated for not taking the easy way out and placating the players there when he arrived. He saw the problems and worked to fix them.}


4.) 05 May 2017 07:39:43
Edwards also realised that football was about to embark on a totally new era and that the whole dynamics and principles of football were about to change. Unfortunately our board stoold still and have paid the price big time in doing so - in my opinion.

My point regarding Ferguson still stands and that he did not build his teams on a shoe string budget.

Could you imagine if Rupert Murdoch’s British Sky Broadcasting corporation's bid to take over United was successful! Being blocked by UK competition
authorities was s good thing in my opinion!

{Ed001's Note - agreed.}


5.) 05 May 2017 08:20:22
Agreed, he was lucky to have Edwards and at a time when no other club in england could foresee the huge riches ahead. Makes everyone else look daft really with hindsight being 20/ 20 and all. Still a quality man manager and the team he had towards the end had no right to win anything really. Yet they did.
He built at least two quality teams and would be regarded higher if a) he'd left the team in a decent state and b) dominated in Europe more. Both of these Shanks did and thus is no 1.
Not bias tho. 😉.

{Ed001's Note - you mean Paisley surely?}


6.) 05 May 2017 08:22:08
Where would united's present manager fit into the discussion?

I know he's not British but love him or hate him (hate) his record speaks for itself.

He's come a long way from when he was Bobby Robsons translated at Barca.

I don't remember much about Shanklys time only really the shock of the resignation but I remember Bob taking over and the magical times enjoyed on our clubs rise to domestic and European dominance.

Compare who you want ever from world football against Bob Paisley and in my book Bob wins, hands down.

Modesty, dignity and decency are words you can't associate with Fergie, Clough or Jose but they describe Bob Paisley down to the ground.

{Ed025's Note - yeah paisley was very good, not the best ever though imo but a very nice guy and football man, liverpool supporters have this thing that every manager has been the best manager ever and that every liverpool player is the best player in the world, add to that your supporters are the best in the world and i think you know where im going with this...there is nothing wrong with it i suppose though dermot..


7.) 05 May 2017 11:03:00
Ed where would you rate Brian Clough, Ron Saunders, and Bobby Robson who were managing at the same sort of time as Paisley, and each having a measure of success?

{Ed001's Note - I love Bobby Robson but he was defo next tier down, as was Clough. Not so sure about Saunders, I would put him a tier down from them.}


8.) 05 May 2017 10:48:35
at the very top with some quality players for absolute years yet only won 2 European cups. Not enough for the players and teams he had.


9.) 05 May 2017 10:49:13
This goes beyond rivalry, you acknowledge and respect those who transcend the game and Fergie did that. I didn't always like him but he's, by a long way, the best manager in my era as a fan.


10.) 05 May 2017 08:44:47
The way Paisley dominated Europe alone pits this argument to bed. As Ed001 correctly pointed out.

{Ed025's Note - it was a knockout then nicky and anyone could win it on their day, plus there were not many teams in it mate..


11.) 05 May 2017 09:45:51
Agree ed25 paisley was great no doubt but can't be compared to fergie tho. We are talking abt 25 yrs of success and the situation was completely different. Fergie had to build a side who hadn't won a league for 26 yrs.

{Ed025's Note - no argument from me there kopite..


12.) 06 May 2017 01:15:59
Thanks for the reply Ed. (I think)

If not Bob Paisley?
Who do you think was the best ever?

{Ed007's Note - Jock Stein.}


13.) 06 May 2017 23:54:30
Thanks for reply ed.

The Lisbon Lions.
Now that will never be seen again.

The great Jock Stein is a legendry figure in his own right.
He won 8 or 9 titles in a row and the European cup with the Lions.

He also spotted and guided a young Kenny Dalglish who was no 8 at the Bhoys and was made captain as well I think.

The main difference between Stein and Paisley was Stein went into international management whereas Paisley didn't.

Celtic are a huge club here in Ireland and I may get in trouble for saying this but for me Paisley was the best bar none.

I'm sure you may not agree.

{Ed007's Note - I'll admit my bias, for obvious reasons but if I was a Liverpool fan I'd probably agree with you about Paisley.


 

 

 

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02 Jun 2016 18:15:50
Gerard the persuader? Wtf he didn't persuade suarez to stay he just likes to think he did, if i remember correctly it was lucas who persuaded suarez to stay for another season not Gerard! If klopp can't convince him to stay then cut him loose thanks for the service and all the best to him in his future, if he doesn't try and leave by being an idiot etc then why should he be slated? Anyway he hasn't gone yet so he might stay.

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11 Jan 2016 10:58:35
Hi square tomatoe being from aberdeen and being a supporter of aberdeen i can back this up mate we in the north east are gutted if he leaves he's been brilliant to watch live for the dandy dona and he will be sorely missed he can do everything and has helped us keep 2nd place for sure but least i get to see him play for the mighty liverpool ao its win win!

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16 Dec 2015 12:53:17
Ok cool shame its never really worked for him i guess he just isn't good enough for a team like lfc.

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16 Dec 2015 12:07:01
Sorry yeah meant joe allen! Any idea were he might be iff to ed? Thanks for reply as always you guys do a great job keeping us fans informed!

Lfcnirvana

{Ed001's Note - he was likely to be off back to Swansea but have to wait and see if the new manager will want him.}


 

 

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12 Dec 2015 18:37:15
In other words he won't be doing a br and not listening to anyone not reviewing the loannes and signing everyone and anyone!

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04 Apr 2018 15:44:34
Ed 1 that's what always puzzles me, spend over a billion on the stadium and surronding area, spend the same on their team have the "best" manager in world football apparently but still can't sell out their stadium why is that?

Lfcnirvana

{Ed001's Note - because they haven't got a fanbase big enough, yet. It takes time to build one. Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool, for example, have built theirs over decades. Chelsea always had a decent one because of where they are based, so they were fashionable before Roman came in. Citeh have never been fashionable or cool to the kind of people they are now looking to attract. They are based in an area that people do not want to go to etc. They are working damn hard to create a fanbase, and it is happening abroad but it takes a generation or more before it really shows.}


 

 

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24 Jul 2017 14:20:07
Cool thanks ed2!

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24 Jul 2017 13:53:57
ok thanks ed2 can i ask what is the point in the transfer request if it can be rejected? is it just to make the public aware the player wants to leave?

Lfcnirvana

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with the public, it is simply a player saying I am pissed off and I want to leave.}


 

 

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23 Jun 2017 11:24:58
have to agree with the eds on this, we don't need to be doing this sort of thing, we should be conducting ourselves in a professional manner, other clubs may do it too, but we are public with how we do it, which really is a disgrace.

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22 Jun 2017 13:05:17
lets hope they have either sacked or use a new psychiatrist that saw suarez then :)

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