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06 Jan 2016 13:00:14
Eds have we signed Kamil Grabara the young GK from Poland?

Thanks.

Jay19

{Ed023's Note - Nearly done}


1.) 06 Jan 2016 14:14:23
Age?


2.) 06 Jan 2016 18:35:47
16 apparantly, no where near first team at all.


3.) 06 Jan 2016 15:38:19
Guess he's for the youth team?

{Ed023's Note - Yes}


4.) 06 Jan 2016 20:46:01
I work with a few polish people and the have been saying about this kid for a few months now.


 

 

28 Sep 2015 16:29:37
I read down the page that Sturridge is surplus to requirements at LFC. I don't usually post negative things about our club but if this is true then I give up with LFC

Lose Xabi get aqua
lose reina get migs
lose agger get lovren
lose torres get carrol
lose suarez get balo
lose gerrard get milner
lose Kenny get BR

We are replacing great with average, Not slagging anybody off but its true. Yes we are improving the stadium but its a decade late, Same with sponsors. Are transfers are a joke from DOF camolli to BR making decisions to transfer comitee to whatever it is now. I have no qualms with fsg but they have no structure in place to see gradual and continued improvement/sucsess. They way things stand at the moment mid-table team seems abit of a compliment to be honest.

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23 Sep 2015 12:01:43
Liverpool have denied contact with carlo but why did they even bother to respond, there are always rumours about lfc and they never respond to them so why respond to this, Either they back BR 100% or they are panicked by the news getting out and are trying to over react to it in my opinion.

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18 Apr 2017 13:21:14
A question for Ed001 if I may, or any other poster who has an opinion.

I recently read your article on the worlds best managers and you pointed out there weaknesess. You have also done so in the past with shankley being to loyal to ageing players or players who lost there desire for winning. So id like to ask what was Paisleys weakness.

Thanks.

Jay19

{Ed001's Note - I honestly don't know if Paisley had one. The worst thing I can think of is that he didn't want the job and didn't stay long enough as he hated the limelight.}


1.) 18 Apr 2017 15:02:32
He was too greedy (for success) 😉🏆🏆🏆.


2.) 18 Apr 2017 17:55:35
3 European cups in 9 years, no manager will ever beat that!


3.) 18 Apr 2017 22:28:19
!977, 1978 and 1981 makes three European Cups in five years.


4.) 19 Apr 2017 04:21:31
he was in charge for 9 years winning 20 trophies that included 3 European cups.


5.) 19 Apr 2017 08:09:34
Sadly his greatest weakness was he did all that in an era before the great god that is the premier league came along so far too many today don't get how significant his success was.


 

 

13 Apr 2017 12:25:55
When was the last time Liverpool signed a wonderkid, Not a potential wonderkid for the academy or reserves but a seventeen year old who went straight into the first team. like rooney did at utd?

I genuinely can't remember the last one.

thanks.

Jay19

1.) 13 Apr 2017 12:34:13
You could say Joe Gomez, hope the injury hasn't set him back too much.


2.) 13 Apr 2017 12:44:28
I would agree with HX in that Gomez is the only recent one I can remember. Back in the day, we used to buy them young (Rush from Chester being an example) but players were more willing to learn their craft for a year or two in the reserves and that's what used to happen.

Going back to the 1990s, Rob Jones could fall into that category. He was 19 when he signed for us from Crewe (albeit only for another month before turning 20!) and was thrown straight into the first time - within 48 hours of signing! He didn't turn out to be too bad!


3.) 13 Apr 2017 12:53:13
Joe Gomez 😂 He's talking about players like a young Torres or aguero, silva, someone who was already doing great things while he was still available to be bought by us but that everyone wants. Joe Gomez is a good talent but he's not even close to the original posters idea. Coutinho is probably the closest we've got much was expected of him although he wasn't showing it too often. Then you're looking at someone like Origi he was 18 and playing for Belgium in the the World Cup ahead of lukaku at the time and benteke was injured and scoring goals when we signed him again much was expected he hasn't quite delivered yet but he's still only 21.


4.) 13 Apr 2017 12:53:13
Which rooney is this?


5.) 13 Apr 2017 13:04:19
Martyn Rooney, the 400m runner, I think?


6.) 13 Apr 2017 14:06:39
When was Joe Gomez ever a wonder kid? People should stop buttering him up cos you are setting him up to be slaughtered due to unwanted expectations being put on his young, inexperienced shoulders.

He is still yet to play CB consistently for us to be judged, injury or not. I suggest people stop bigging him up cos like it or not, he will make mistakes and with the way Karius was obliterated by his own fans cos he made two mistakes, I fear he will get the same treatment from such people.


7.) 13 Apr 2017 14:17:46
#Wonderdog Sparky

Sterling was pretty close I suppose. How many "wonderkids" are there anyway?


8.) 13 Apr 2017 16:49:07
Got to agree N Red, Gomez was never a 'wonderkid', just a lad with decent potential. Let's not load the lads shoulders with unnecessary or unrealistic expectations.
Ron, no doubt Sterling was considered a 'wonderkid' and it was a real coup to get him. If I recall, the QPR youth team was referred to as Raheem Park Rangers due to his relative talent at that age. He'd be our most recent 'wonderkid' purchase, I'd say.
What I'd give to sign someone comparable to Rushie, who'd be prepared to learn his trade in the reserves for a year or so and then give half of what he gave on the pitch. We'd get CL football every year with men of Rushie's calibrate breaking into the side. True Liverpool legend.


9.) 13 Apr 2017 16:51:18
Not many, Ron.


10.) 13 Apr 2017 17:24:18
Completely agree, GMac.

Ron, I think the OP was after someone who came straight into first team. Sterling was a wonderkid, but joined in his early to mid-teens into the youth/ reserves team. I remember when he scored 5 goals in a game for the U-18s a few years back when he was 15, from memory.

Agree Gomez still has a lot to prove, but he did come in and seemed to be successfully holding down a 1st team spot before his horrible injury.


11.) 14 Apr 2017 03:24:35
Shelvey went straight to the first team, was better than Henderson back then.


 

 

20 Feb 2017 18:24:27
Genuine question for everybody. Why are we soo keen to buy players for the squad, Isn't that the very thing we bash other teams for buying success? When we have the like of ward, gomez, TAA, ojo, woodburn, grujic and so on coming through, with the likes of matip, hendo, couts, firmino, and mane who are still young and very good players why are we desperate to spend heavy. the likes of carra, owen, mcmannaman, gerrard, fowler cost nothing we can produce again.

Jay19

1.) 20 Feb 2017 18:39:31
So your going to put pressure of the kids let them develop at there own time. This squad needs improving all we can do what we been doing and selling are best players and be happy finishing 7th. Instead of trying to win the league.


2.) 20 Feb 2017 19:19:16
The kids will never develop with crap players around them and being expected to carry our team. Also we don't have really any kids capable of stepping up in our real problem areas, that being at the back.


3.) 20 Feb 2017 20:24:03
Think biggest problem really is need players who improve our defence 1st and possible a pacey attacker. There just isn't someone in our youth team I think we could depend on next season and would probably be unfair to expect it of them.

Also think are a bit unlucky as those we were hoping to push on Ojo, Gomez, and grujic had big injury problems. Have to think if mane, Matip and Henderson broke their leg we'd be screwed! Personally think we need to make a decision on who's closest to first team and then try actually plan good loans for the others so they can develop or if too young use them in U23s.

Perfect example is ejaria, can see he plenty of talent but just look at his frame. Needs to develop before he can be expected to play in our league or TBH could end up getting injured badly.


4.) 20 Feb 2017 20:25:11
We aren't bashing other teams anymore. This isn't 90's mate. Football has moved on.


5.) 21 Feb 2017 10:57:40
Apart from Suso, what academy players have we not given chances to that performed at another big club?, and Suso might not have even been physical enough for PL.


6.) 21 Feb 2017 13:00:13
Ojo and Wilson were both given loan opportunities and neither pulled up trees. Why shouldn't we be looking at bringing in better younger players. It would be nice for the academy lads to come through and become regulars, but they have to perform better than the other players in the squad to do so. We have bought Origi into the squad at the expense of Jerome Sinclair. Joe Gomes instead of Lloyd Jones. Grujic instead of Brannigan. We bought allen de souse to replace Rossitor, why? Because they are deemed more likely to be future ist team players, and they are better, yet they are not ready to replace the players that have the spot in the team now. To compare Brandt, Dahoud and pulisic with any of our under 23's now is pretty silly.


7.) 21 Feb 2017 14:14:59
Ejaria is now injured, and will miss a few more weeks.


 

 

02 Jan 2017 10:18:22
Ed can I ask, do we really need to buy anyone in January?

I mean this squad of players are performing outstandingly this season only had small blips, and yet to really intergrate our better younger players into the team, Gomez, Ojo, Chirivella, woodburn, grujic, juanma and Wilson are yet to really be given more game time and we have been without couts and matip for a few games also.

If anything we should be looking to find clubs for players who are not going to have a future here, like sakho and illori.

cheers.

Jay19

{Ed002's Note - The general guidance is if you have a successful mix (as Liverpool do) then don't screw with it unless someone is avaiable at a reasonable price who can make an improvement.}


1.) 02 Jan 2017 10:38:54
I agree, we need ttp focus on outs more then ins. We have a quality team with great youngsters at the ready to step things up. Imo we don't need anybody in this window. Biggest thing I can hope for is to see Sakho out the door.


2.) 02 Jan 2017 11:07:53
The team is never the finished article, it can always be improved. But that doesn't mean we buy for the sake of it. I think we're in for a quiet window but the summer will be interesting again.


3.) 02 Jan 2017 11:59:59
Its Correct not to buy anyone just because the window is open for the sake of it.
But we are in the enviable position where if there is a player available who the manager thinks can improve the squad available, then we can go for it.
Klopp seems to be the real deal and not willing to buy for buying sake.


4.) 02 Jan 2017 10:31:03
thanks ed, yeah I feel we need very little over the next couple of windows. Maybe a long term partner for matip in the summer, and gk and lb perhaps need to be closely watched, karius has to find his form or ward to really develop, and juanma and Moreno will need to have decisions made on them, but that's about it really.

thanks again ed.


5.) 02 Jan 2017 13:31:37
Can anyone remember the last window when we didn't get anyone in?


 

 

31 Dec 2016 19:49:26
meh im not even impressed anymore, I have come to expect wins under klopp lol.

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05 May 2017 17:53:21
Id rather this list say Mbappe, Asensio, giminez, cedric, gaya tbh

And that would still give us are annual saints player so the scouts are happy.

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04 May 2017 18:07:50
are we interested in her then ed lol.

Jay19

{Ed001's Note - funny you should say that, she is currently in the process of moving back to the UK just in case.}


 

 

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18 Dec 2015 17:23:27
Im sure that was actually origin he was talking about, And believed him too be too much for someone so young.

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13 Jul 2015 08:42:55
Done in feb, That doesn't make sense why would city let a 49 mill player train with Liverpool upto the 11th of july knowing he could be injured, it would of been official on july 1st. also ed confirmed during june and july no deal had been struck even saying bids had been rejected. You also said we were in for Kono but ed confirmed we were not even interested. I think your contact has been caught out and is now given false info mate.

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05 May 2017 17:49:04
Id prefer mahrez tbh, has more experience in the PL and more quality.

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03 May 2017 07:17:26
I think this for most comes down to the front three as we'd all be ok replacing the rest of the team. But how do you pick between those three?

Mane apparently had some issues at saints and wanted a bigger move so id be worried that he would do the same again if barce/ real/ Bayern was interested, so he's out.

Couts has been rumoured to be linked to a few top clubs and I've not heard him push those rumours away and speak of his desire to stay at Liverpool. so he's out.

Firmino for me is only one area away from being on the same level as suarez and that's his hit and miss finishing. If he could become a more clinical goal scorer he would be world class but he is still young and has time. he stays.

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16 Apr 2017 13:57:14
I don't get why your all struggling with this, its simple to me.

Sakho is not wanted by Liverpool so that decreases his value as no one will pay premium for a player buying clubs know selling clubs want rid of. also he has attitude problems which again decreases his value as no one wants to pay big money for a player they may want rid off once there in a position to attract better quality.

VDV is Southampton's best defender so he is there most valuable cb which adds to his price as they do not want to sell. he is also wanted by a host of rich clubs which also means Southampton can ask for even more in the hopes of starting a bidding war as one team will be more willing to pay for a player they think will be valuable to them.

there is no set price for players you have to take into account what he is worth to the selling club i.e Southampton need him to qualify for Europe. and what he is worth to the buying club i.e Liverpool want him to compete in the Champions League.

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26 Feb 2017 13:51:15
Couldn't agree more, Thanks Ed.

Jay19

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20 Feb 2017 18:18:02
Erm you mean a young winger with lots of potential and highly rated?

If only Ojo was foreign eh? he'd be a shoe in.

Jay19