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06 Jan 2016 13:00:14
Eds have we signed Kamil Grabara the young GK from Poland?

Thanks.

Jay19

{Ed023's Note - Nearly done}


1.) 06 Jan 2016 14:14:23
Age?


2.) 06 Jan 2016 18:35:47
16 apparantly, no where near first team at all.


3.) 06 Jan 2016 15:38:19
Guess he's for the youth team?

{Ed023's Note - Yes}


4.) 06 Jan 2016 20:46:01
I work with a few polish people and the have been saying about this kid for a few months now.


 

 

28 Sep 2015 16:29:37
I read down the page that Sturridge is surplus to requirements at LFC. I don't usually post negative things about our club but if this is true then I give up with LFC

Lose Xabi get aqua
lose reina get migs
lose agger get lovren
lose torres get carrol
lose suarez get balo
lose gerrard get milner
lose Kenny get BR

We are replacing great with average, Not slagging anybody off but its true. Yes we are improving the stadium but its a decade late, Same with sponsors. Are transfers are a joke from DOF camolli to BR making decisions to transfer comitee to whatever it is now. I have no qualms with fsg but they have no structure in place to see gradual and continued improvement/sucsess. They way things stand at the moment mid-table team seems abit of a compliment to be honest.

Jay19

 

 

23 Sep 2015 12:01:43
Liverpool have denied contact with carlo but why did they even bother to respond, there are always rumours about lfc and they never respond to them so why respond to this, Either they back BR 100% or they are panicked by the news getting out and are trying to over react to it in my opinion.

Jay19

 

 

 

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20 Feb 2017 18:24:27
Genuine question for everybody. Why are we soo keen to buy players for the squad, Isn't that the very thing we bash other teams for buying success? When we have the like of ward, gomez, TAA, ojo, woodburn, grujic and so on coming through, with the likes of matip, hendo, couts, firmino, and mane who are still young and very good players why are we desperate to spend heavy. the likes of carra, owen, mcmannaman, gerrard, fowler cost nothing we can produce again.

Jay19

1.) 20 Feb 2017 18:39:31
So your going to put pressure of the kids let them develop at there own time. This squad needs improving all we can do what we been doing and selling are best players and be happy finishing 7th. Instead of trying to win the league.


2.) 20 Feb 2017 19:19:16
The kids will never develop with crap players around them and being expected to carry our team. Also we don't have really any kids capable of stepping up in our real problem areas, that being at the back.


3.) 20 Feb 2017 20:24:03
Think biggest problem really is need players who improve our defence 1st and possible a pacey attacker. There just isn't someone in our youth team I think we could depend on next season and would probably be unfair to expect it of them.

Also think are a bit unlucky as those we were hoping to push on Ojo, Gomez, and grujic had big injury problems. Have to think if mane, Matip and Henderson broke their leg we'd be screwed! Personally think we need to make a decision on who's closest to first team and then try actually plan good loans for the others so they can develop or if too young use them in U23s.

Perfect example is ejaria, can see he plenty of talent but just look at his frame. Needs to develop before he can be expected to play in our league or TBH could end up getting injured badly.


4.) 20 Feb 2017 20:25:11
We aren't bashing other teams anymore. This isn't 90's mate. Football has moved on.


5.) 21 Feb 2017 10:57:40
Apart from Suso, what academy players have we not given chances to that performed at another big club?, and Suso might not have even been physical enough for PL.


6.) 21 Feb 2017 13:00:13
Ojo and Wilson were both given loan opportunities and neither pulled up trees. Why shouldn't we be looking at bringing in better younger players. It would be nice for the academy lads to come through and become regulars, but they have to perform better than the other players in the squad to do so. We have bought Origi into the squad at the expense of Jerome Sinclair. Joe Gomes instead of Lloyd Jones. Grujic instead of Brannigan. We bought allen de souse to replace Rossitor, why? Because they are deemed more likely to be future ist team players, and they are better, yet they are not ready to replace the players that have the spot in the team now. To compare Brandt, Dahoud and pulisic with any of our under 23's now is pretty silly.


7.) 21 Feb 2017 14:14:59
Ejaria is now injured, and will miss a few more weeks.


 

 

02 Jan 2017 10:18:22
Ed can I ask, do we really need to buy anyone in January?

I mean this squad of players are performing outstandingly this season only had small blips, and yet to really intergrate our better younger players into the team, Gomez, Ojo, Chirivella, woodburn, grujic, juanma and Wilson are yet to really be given more game time and we have been without couts and matip for a few games also.

If anything we should be looking to find clubs for players who are not going to have a future here, like sakho and illori.

cheers.

Jay19

{Ed002's Note - The general guidance is if you have a successful mix (as Liverpool do) then don't screw with it unless someone is avaiable at a reasonable price who can make an improvement.}


1.) 02 Jan 2017 10:38:54
I agree, we need ttp focus on outs more then ins. We have a quality team with great youngsters at the ready to step things up. Imo we don't need anybody in this window. Biggest thing I can hope for is to see Sakho out the door.


2.) 02 Jan 2017 11:07:53
The team is never the finished article, it can always be improved. But that doesn't mean we buy for the sake of it. I think we're in for a quiet window but the summer will be interesting again.


3.) 02 Jan 2017 11:59:59
Its Correct not to buy anyone just because the window is open for the sake of it.
But we are in the enviable position where if there is a player available who the manager thinks can improve the squad available, then we can go for it.
Klopp seems to be the real deal and not willing to buy for buying sake.


4.) 02 Jan 2017 10:31:03
thanks ed, yeah I feel we need very little over the next couple of windows. Maybe a long term partner for matip in the summer, and gk and lb perhaps need to be closely watched, karius has to find his form or ward to really develop, and juanma and Moreno will need to have decisions made on them, but that's about it really.

thanks again ed.


5.) 02 Jan 2017 13:31:37
Can anyone remember the last window when we didn't get anyone in?


 

 

31 Dec 2016 19:49:26
meh im not even impressed anymore, I have come to expect wins under klopp lol.

Jay19

 

 

14 Dec 2016 21:46:17
Someone needs to tell lallana he's English and supposed to be over rated not actually perform that well mate lol.

Jay19

1.) 14 Dec 2016 21:53:08
Lallana is atrocious

Don't know what he adds to the team

Cant pick a pass, too many touches on the ball and doesn't score enough.


2.) 14 Dec 2016 22:30:34
Lol nice one agger, how shocking was migs today though? he let's in the first shot on target, makes basic saves and belongs in the championship, it was a mistake dropping Karius.


3.) 14 Dec 2016 22:59:20
Are we all getting sarcasm posts now!? We've had a breakthrough! 😉.


4.) 14 Dec 2016 23:12:21
I'm one of the people who used to say that Lallana has too many touches, can't pick a pass and doesn't score enough, and boy oh boy I'm loving how he's proving me wrong this season.


5.) 14 Dec 2016 23:19:07
Mignolet is still shite.

How do people forget what he has been like since he joined us.

Big mistake dropping karius today.

Stuck now, karius comes back in and everyone will be on mignolets side, pressure will be on, and he will be trying so hard to not make a mistake that he will probably make loads.

Or why drop mignolet, even thought he is certaintly not the long term answer after 3 years. People forget karius was bought to replace him because he was so crap. But can't get rid if he's not doing anything wrong, even without doing much right.

And finally didn't send a good messgae to all the youngsters that when (and we all know how inconsistent they can be) they are inconsistent there going to be dropped. Karous needed supporting through this period (he wasnt getting it off the blood thirsty "best fans in the world") but needed it from his manager, not in the press and then dropping. just shut up and keep playing him. Take a stand, he's your number1.


6.) 14 Dec 2016 23:28:34
Karius will stay out of the team until mignolet goes through a sticky patch, it's why you have more than one gk. I think klopp did the right thing for the record, he needs to be out of the spotlight for a little while.


7.) 14 Dec 2016 23:30:11
Supermane I've been saying since mignolet was dropped that I don't remember him being that bad. Sure he wasn't the best under a high ball and his kicking wasn't like reina. but he is a top class shot stopper. The most important part of a keepers game. Saving bloody shots. Karius was under far too much pressure and really under the spot light. He needed to be taken out.


8.) 14 Dec 2016 23:50:26
Its what a squad is for.
For the past few seasons Migs wasn't performing but was under no pressure of losing his place.
Klopp dropped him preseason and gave Karius A chance.
That has hopefully given Migs the kick inthe arse he needs to wake up and realise that he Iis only as good as his last save.
Karius will know that when he gets another chance he will have to step up.

Thanks to Klopp complacency seems to be on the way out.

The same applies to Sturridge with Origi, etc.


9.) 14 Dec 2016 23:57:01
No ones forgotten how bad mignolet has been the past 3 seasons but some of us aren't going to give Karius the double standard treatment. I'm not saying mignolet is the solution to our problems at the back but he is an option, an option that some have merely dismissed as if he's the worst second choice keeper we have ever had. If Karius was our second choice goalkeeper in previous seasons where mignolet has made consistent mistakes then no one would have any qualms about dropping him for Karius even in his first season. And so far, saying Karius is better than mignolet is a myth and has no substance, SO FAR. Would I personally have dropped Karius, yes, I believe his confidence was effecting his performance and it was costing us points. Moreno, mignolet, Milner, Henderson etc have all been lambasted and have been told to get out of the club when they have made mistakes or costed us games yet the same people say we should support and back Karius. I agree that we should support and back Karius but the double standards is embarrassing, he deserved the criticism he received but he doesn't deserve to get slated the way he did, neither do any of the players listed above. I think this will take him out of the limelight and help him concentrate on improving his game rather than trying not to make a mistake. He put himself out there by making certain comments so I do not understand this whole stance against Carragher saying he's sold his soul just because he's doing his job and criticised a player who has been shaky ever since preseason, no one said a word when he went in on Moreno or mignolet. Most people would drop Karius in this circumstance, it's just the way it is, and it had more pros than cons for me. Mignolet isn't the answer and I'm sure he will have a bad game but migs does the basics better at this very point in time. He may not be good with his feet but he can actually make good saves regardless of what some would lead you to believe. We can all agree we need to give it time and definitely reassess in the summer if it continues this way, but don't make Karius undroppable because we will suffer with that mentality.


10.) 14 Dec 2016 23:58:50
If you are inconsistent you should be dropped to work on your inconsistencies . that's not a negative message to the youngsters, its an incentive to perform to your best every single game.


11.) 15 Dec 2016 00:22:37
No no no. Seriously am I reading this, literally guys when you think you have seen it all.

1st point. If mignolet was such a top class shot stopper then why would he have been replaced. Forget any other trait, if he stop shots aswel as you all think then he would be the undisputed number one. He is a terrible shot stopper. Like 90 first appearances 112 goals conceded. 50 in one season aswel. 50 Goals. And before anyone blames the defence. We should be allowed a rubbish defence with such a great shot stopper, like those lads over at united. What is it we say you without de gea you would be terrible. De gea saved use today. You only made top 4 because of de gea. Tell me when one you have heard or said without mignolet today we would of got smashed. Never not once.

2 d point. Ed001 where are ya lad. You can't be reading this and not having your fingers itching to make a response. Come on explain to these fools just how bad mignolet is.

3rd point. So you make a mistake and should be dropped. Ok. That doesn't work with a goal keeper. Have you ever dome the same task with and without pressure. Maybe threw something like a bit of popcorn and had it land somewhere incredible and then tried to do it again now your trying and failed or tried not to laugh when your told don't laugh even if something not funny just because the pressure is on. Karius knows because were so tough that he has been bad and dropped for it and now if he gets back in, he will try that much harder to not make a mistake to make sure he doesn't get dropped again (like he should for being bad because that's what we DO) that more mistakes will come, the crowd will be hunting for them r the bellends they have been and ****ing carra will be there with his big sly gob banging on about it and having the chukkle brothers joining him. Terrible.

Bravoo been dropped? HM. No. faith? Trust? Another chance.

We have a kid in goal who through years of knowledge is at least 8/ 10 years from his prime as a gk. In a new league. Away from family. A team going for the league In one of the most competitive ever. And a group of fans gunning for him like they do when they laughed when Brendan said origi could be world class, or hendo was rubbish and the many more there been.

He needed klopps support because right not that's all he has. He can hear the fans moaning, the pundits criticising him (as proved by his reaction interview) probably no mum or dad with him / friends. Unfamilar surroudings.

Oh well. Stuck with migs, dint come crying when he needs dropping.

{Ed001's Note - I have given up on the goldfish with short term memory problems. Mignolet was awful and we had ALL accepted he needed to be replaced if we are ever to win the title. Bringing him back is not the answer.}


12.) 15 Dec 2016 05:14:00
@Kman - sorry but talk of a double-standard is complete and utter drivel. Karius hasn't even been at the club 6 months and hasn't even been available for all of them due to breaking his hand. Mignolet has had years to cement the goalkeeping position and has failed spectacularly. Klopp stuck by him a lot but never saw improvement - Karius was brought to replace him and needs the backing of both manager and, more importantly, the fans. He isn't getting it and his confidence will be worse as a result.

There is a double-standard - Mignolet has had dreadful games consistently before yet still maintained his place: Karious has 2 bad games and it's to the bench with him - that is a double-standard. Those using last nights game as some sort of vindication for dropping Karius need their head testing - Mignolet had literally nothing of note to do, nothing. He kept a clean sheet yes but do you honestly think if Karius was in his position he wouldn't? Karius needs support above all else - if only so we can see whether or not he is a viable long-term solution - dropping him at the first sight of pressure will not tell us anything and will do the player more harm than good.


13.) 15 Dec 2016 00:22:37
No no no. Seriously am I reading this, literally guys when you think you have seen it all.

1st point. If mignolet was such a top class shot stopper then why would he have been replaced. Forget any other trait, if he stop shots aswel as you all think then he would be the undisputed number one. He is a terrible shot stopper. Like 90 first appearances 112 goals conceded. 50 in one season aswel. 50 Goals. And before anyone blames the defence. We should be allowed a rubbish defence with such a great shot stopper, like those lads over at united. What is it we say you without de gea you would be terrible. De gea saved use today. You only made top 4 because of de gea. Tell me when one you have heard or said without mignolet today we would of got smashed. Never not once.

2 d point. Ed001 where are ya lad. You can't be reading this and not having your fingers itching to make a response. Come on explain to these fools just how bad mignolet is.

3rd point. So you make a mistake and should be dropped. Ok. That doesn't work with a goal keeper. Have you ever dome the same task with and without pressure. Maybe threw something like a bit of popcorn and had it land somewhere incredible and then tried to do it again now your trying and failed or tried not to laugh when your told don't laugh even if something not funny just because the pressure is on. Karius knows because were so tough that he has been bad and dropped for it and now if he gets back in, he will try that much harder to not make a mistake to make sure he doesn't get dropped again (like he should for being bad because that's what we DO) that more mistakes will come, the crowd will be hunting for them r the bellends they have been and ****ing carra will be there with his big sly gob banging on about it and having the chukkle brothers joining him. Terrible.

Bravoo been dropped? HM. No. faith? Trust? Another chance.

We have a kid in goal who through years of knowledge is at least 8/ 10 years from his prime as a gk. In a new league. Away from family. A team going for the league In one of the most competitive ever. And a group of fans gunning for him like they do when they laughed when Brendan said origi could be world class, or hendo was rubbish and the many more there been.

He needed klopps support because right not that's all he has. He can hear the fans moaning, the pundits criticising him (as proved by his reaction interview) probably no mum or dad with him / friends. Unfamilar surroudings.

Oh well. Stuck with migs, dint come crying when he needs dropping.

{Ed001's Note - I have given up on the goldfish with short term memory problems. Mignolet was awful and we had ALL accepted he needed to be replaced if we are ever to win the title. Bringing him back is not the answer.}


14.) 15 Dec 2016 05:14:00
@Kman - sorry but talk of a double-standard is complete and utter drivel. Karius hasn't even been at the club 6 months and hasn't even been available for all of them due to breaking his hand. Mignolet has had years to cement the goalkeeping position and has failed spectacularly. Klopp stuck by him a lot but never saw improvement - Karius was brought to replace him and needs the backing of both manager and, more importantly, the fans. He isn't getting it and his confidence will be worse as a result.

There is a double-standard - Mignolet has had dreadful games consistently before yet still maintained his place: Karious has 2 bad games and it's to the bench with him - that is a double-standard. Those using last nights game as some sort of vindication for dropping Karius need their head testing - Mignolet had literally nothing of note to do, nothing. He kept a clean sheet yes but do you honestly think if Karius was in his position he wouldn't? Karius needs support above all else - if only so we can see whether or not he is a viable long-term solution - dropping him at the first sight of pressure will not tell us anything and will do the player more harm than good.


15.) 15 Dec 2016 08:30:50
Its debatable whether it was good or bad for Karius's confidence to play last night. He is looking wobbly, the fans and pundits are criticising him and he has a silly habit of airing his views on social media.
Mignolet is not the answer long-term but right now its maybe best to give him a couple of games. He had a good 90 mins and its healthy competition for No.1.
I appreciate goalkeeper is a confidence position but Karius will appreciate he has a bit of work to do. If a few games on the bench shatters his self-belief then maybe he doesn't have the fortitude to play in the highest-pressured league in the world.
How he addresses this minor setback will show what he is made of.

{Ed002's Note - It is the so called "fans" that battered his confidence - as they have done to so many Liverpool players before him.}


16.) 15 Dec 2016 10:53:19
Honestly, some of you do not read posts properly or do not put things into logical perspective, it just seems like bitter stubbornness to me. You made a decision that mignolet was not good enough and now he should be never used again even if our first choice keeper is as shaky as my banana flavoured milkshake. That's not logical thinking that's unnecessarily dismissive. If you guys could properly digest a post, you would have realised that I said mignolet isn't the long term answer, nothing to do with 'gold fish memory' I remember exactly how bad mignolet was and I wanted him replaced by a keeper that had years of top flight experience, was already playing at a top class level etc instead we went for a gamble in a position we have been dire in for years. Nonetheless I wanted mignolet replaced after his second season possibly even before that, but the right decisions where never made. And I can't say we have made a right decision yet in regards to keepers until yesterday. You guys completely dismiss the need for healthy competition between the two of them which is the reason we wanted two decent keepers in the first place, so if Karius who has not just made a mistake in the last game like you guys with 'gold fish memory' like to ascertain, he has made mistakes since preseason. The difference is, when you win, mistakes get swept under the carpet, but when the luck runs out, the cracks appear and they did with regards to Karius. You say mignolet had nothing to do yesterday, how do you think Karius got his clean sheets? He had tons of saves to make in those games didn't he, cough cough. At the end of the day it was best for Karius to be dropped, I and many others have this opinion, you have yours. Don't ask ed01 to come help you all the time, like you can't make an opinion for yourself.

I will support and back Karius when he comes back into the team, I believe there's a good keeper in there, I am just yet to see it. What I will not do, is not criticise him because of BS excuses. If a player does something wrong continuously do not expect people to be like you and just put on red tinted glasses.


17.) 15 Dec 2016 10:55:29
Agree Ed002 but that is what the modern player needs to find a way to deal with. If you are a sensitive soul you are not going to make it being in the public eye these days. Anyone who throws their opinions into the public domain of social media should expect all sorts of criticism, even more so if you are famous.
If i was Klopp i'd tell the whole team to stop face-twitting and focus on their well-paid jobs.

{Ed002's Note - It is far, far worse at Liverpool than any opther club. The fans have attempted to destroy the owners, the players, the managers and anyone else associated with the club by spewing their constant stream of abuse and hate at everyone and everything. The moronic Manchester United supporters started acting the same way and performances suffered as they did at Liverpool. Maybe they will enter the year-after-year of transition like Liverpool?}


18.) 15 Dec 2016 14:24:41
Kman, your hypocrisy is embarrassing. You are the one using double standards to make it look like Migs is somehow a good GK. He is not. Remember BR benched him for BRAD JONES two seasons ago and the only reason he got his spot back was because Jones got injured. He was atrocious at the time but the old excuse always came up, "he`s a good shot stopper". Utter dross. He`s a good shot stopper. When? Utter trash. If he was that good at shot stopping, why did he lead the PL in goals conceded at the first shot on target last season? Why was he beaten at his near post by Fernandinho at the League Cup final? Why did he cost us double digit points last season alone? Why was he benched for Jones? These are facts I am present here to support my argument.

Also, your facts are screwed. You say Karius made mistakes in throughout preseason. Would that be the preseason of which he broke his hand and missed it`s majority? Again, your double standard is embarrassing. You may not like Karius, I get it and you wanted a top class GK. Guess what, genius? They are all taken hence, you create your own and Migs failed at it for three years yet you are hear rewriting history. We all remember Mingo for his atrocities and the general feeling was that he should be binned and the media and the fans are out to get Karius now because he`s the easier target whereas when we were winning, even the things he did right were never highlighted. I wonder why? Also, the fact that we have fans (not you) rooting for our own player to fail is sickening in itself as at no point in time did I ever want Migs to cost us a game so I could gloat but sadly we are seeing this.

Why is Karius being targeted for us not winning whereas there is so much blame to go around, some of which klopp admitted to? because with him in goal, we conceded 5 in 7 games? Did you give him any credit for that? But when he`s making mistakes which even established GK`s make, they are out in force trying to paint Migs as being hard done by by Klopp whereas it was Migs` failures that brought Karius here. Again, the hypocrisy is deafening and Ed02 is right, some of our fans are THE WORST.


19.) 15 Dec 2016 23:37:45
I don't think that anyone believes Migs will be the answer long term, but that isn't a reason to persist with a keeper that was clearly struggling. What's more damaging to his confidence, taking him out of the team or leaving him in to make more mistakes? If any other player on the team was making mistakes as regularly as him we would all expect that player to be dropped. Keeper should be the same in my opinion.

Byrne way, Migs did alright yesterday, saved a shot at the near post that I'm not sure Karius would have done on recent evidence. I hope Karius comes good but I don't think he's good enough yet.


20.) 16 Dec 2016 15:34:32
LiverDucks, Nowhere did I mention that did not make his mistakes because if you read my post, I pointed that out. my main gripe was the fact that the media, "pundits" and many of our fans were rooting for the boy to fail or were scapegoating him for our troubles that went way beyond Karius` miscues. GK`s make mistakes regardless of their level as DDG and Courtois made mistakes last season. How many points has Migs cost us since he`s been here? A lot. Not once did I hear people in the media or here scapegoat him for the fact that our defence was a sieve BUT all I heard was that he was a great shot stopper, a notion that has no basis in reality. Saying that his mistakes alone cost us the games we didn`t win is nonsense as Klopp has already debunked that. Now after 9 games, he should be binned. Where people shouting for Migs to be binned in the season he conceded 50 gaols? Whatever happened to giving a new player time to adapt and endure with him through his troubles? Al I ask is fairness when judging both of them at the same periods in their LFC careers and in fact, Migs was already playing in the PL before he came to us and he`s was still awful so I`d give the new guy the benefit of the doubt. Also, the save Migs made was the same one Karius made vs Antonio in the WH game. Just stating the facts, mate.


 

 

12 Dec 2016 18:48:36
Im the kind of person who likes to find the positive in anyway I can, So i'd like to express my view hoping some may agree with me.

Karius conceded both goels before half time of which he must of felt bad about his mistakes but still came out second half and kept a clean sheet even though west ham had chances to add to there tally.

west hams goals came from a world class free kick taker and ONE defensive error, its not like we was cut to ribbons at the back.

we created a lot of chances even showing a cleverness in our approach by letting the ball run past to turn and shoot instead of just blasting it first time but they had a decent day at the back and a lot of luck, Any other day we put 5 past them.

Just my opinion, thanks.

Jay19

1.) 12 Dec 2016 18:59:30
Not having a go at Karius, but I think you are glossing over his performance in the second half. Maybe one reason he kept a clean sheet in that half was because West Ham only had one shot on target. We were no better with just two shots on target, the Origi goal and Henderson's shot from outside the box.


2.) 12 Dec 2016 19:23:21
We were much better in the second half, we picked up the tempo and West Ham had much less of the ball. If our final ball had been better we would have scored 2 or 3 more goals.
That's why Karius kept "a clean sheet" in the second half, he had very little to do.


3.) 12 Dec 2016 19:35:01
I agree with the OP that Karius has his positives. Great on the ball, good footwork, good passing ability and distribution and not bad in one on one situation as seen vs Bournmouth when he was exposed by his defence against Afobe and he made a point blank save, vs Sunderland against Pienaar and Whatmore, and vs Watford against Capoue. What a difference that Afobe save might have been for his confidence had we won the game. Also, You don`t get voted as the 2nd best GK by your peers in the "Home of Good GK`s" which is the Bundesliga by chance so there are facts to suggest that there is real potential good showing and support from the fans to break that barrier.

I will say that the errors last night didn`t look good and that the free kick from Payet was not world class because Karius got his hand to it and definitely should have had it. You could see the disbelief in his face after it went in.


4.) 12 Dec 2016 21:08:00
How could you possiblly call that world class free kick?


5.) 12 Dec 2016 21:49:53
If if if Ron.


6.) 12 Dec 2016 21:55:05
If he had saved that then the pressure was off him.
He got a hand to it but it didn't seem ti be a strong enough hand. Maybe its the one that was injured preseason.

With not saving that the pressure will increase next time out.

He needs better protection in front of him.
I wish Klopp would give Sahko another chance to see him partner Matip.
He looked really good for the U 23 tonight.


7.) 12 Dec 2016 22:16:29
Dermot, that was the hand he broke and he has admitted that he suffers stiffness in it at times, that may explain why he punches rather than catches. The feel for him because he can't seem to catch a break. However, he needs to man up and rise above it because this is top level footie where you make your own breaks through hardwork, determination and dedication, then the luck will come.


8.) 12 Dec 2016 23:01:20
He's always tended to punch/ flap at crosses, nothing to do with injury. He was the same in Germany.
The freekick was nothing to do with his hand and everything to do with standing too far away from the corner which was most under threat from a right footer. As a right footer, if you want to curl the ball so it is always moving away from the keeper, you will go for the left side of the goal as you look at it. That's simple physics. Much harder to swerve it the other way with the outside of the boot. It was obvious where Payet was going, everyone in the crowd around me all said it before it happened.


9.) 13 Dec 2016 00:11:39
Why is Karius getting blamed for the second goal, it was clearly Matips mistake! Since when did we all start expecting keepers to save one on ones?


10.) 13 Dec 2016 00:12:56
Hindsight is always 20/ 20, The wall was guarding Karius's right side, The wall failed in it's job, Karius should have been stronger wristed, end of, Payet is a worldy when he can be arsed.
Somebody else highlighted it, since the international break we've been a little flat, wether that's down to Couts absence I don't know, but we need to step up pretty quick CFC fixtures aren't that bad coming up,


11.) 13 Dec 2016 01:13:12
He's in a difficult transition period.
But his confidence has taken a huge knock.
I don't want to stereotype the lad but do you know the German confidence and business like swagger well its missing inhim at the mmoment and it must be hurting.
I don't think training with Manniger or Migs. Is going to bring him on anytime soon either.


12.) 13 Dec 2016 05:34:32
Midge, I don't know how you watched the game, but I was in the ground. Matip was wrong footed by Hendo's header, misjudged it and didn't have time to react. It was an "error" if you like.
Clyne, if he was a decent full back, would have been covering behind Matip.
However, Karius was most culpable. He had an absolute age to see the flight of the ball off Hendo's head and to see Matip struggling. He just stood there motionless. I immediately looked at the linesman as it seemed Karius had stopped after hearing the whistle. I was sat very close to Karius's goal and the lad froze. He had so much time to come for the ball it was unreal.
3 errors, Matip wrong footed by Hendo's header, Clyne not covering and Karius just freezing. Any decent player will tell you that you always expect the ball to come to you and anticipate danger.


13.) 13 Dec 2016 08:43:27
Ron I'm going to disagree with you a bit here mate, I was also at the game (although top row in upper centenary which boarders on obstructed view) so I watched the game again yesterday and first goal I do think karius was slightly to far in the corner, possibly could have had the wall blocking the other side of the goal? But I do hate keepers being beat at the side that they're standing at because they don't trust the wall, but for the most part I agree with you there.

The second goal though the more I watch it I'm not sure what karius could really do. Antonio was in control of the situation and he made the slightest of feints which slowed karius down, after that there's nothing he can do if he dives in probably flicked past him and a red card if there's contact or he stands ground and then looks silly as it just is poked past him for me it was a lose lose for him there.


14.) 13 Dec 2016 08:46:47
Ron

Henderson's mistimed headed is not an error. But Matip is the real culprit. The ball shouldn't have reached Karius in the first place. You cannot dump everything on Karius just because players ahead of him couldn't.


15.) 13 Dec 2016 11:23:51
Did I dump it all on Karius?
Did you read my post at all?
I said there were more people to blame - Matip, Clyne and Karius.
Please read my posts before you make incorrect assumptions in my name.


16.) 13 Dec 2016 23:36:18
Wow i actually agree with shaun michaels lol, yea karius was not as culpable for the second goal much as the armchair pundits would like us to believe. However i agree with ron that with the ball in the middle of the goal karius starting position was way to much to the left. All this nonsense about weak wrists and not moving his feet fast enough are red herrings put out by people who have no clue about being a keeper and how bloody difficult it is to save a shot in the opposite side of the goal from a standing position, he actually did well to get anything on it albeit as a consequence of poor positioning. He will come good, mark my words, but this witch hunt needs to stop to allow the young man to sort his thoughts out and gain some form/ experience.


 

 

 

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18 Dec 2015 17:23:27
Im sure that was actually origin he was talking about, And believed him too be too much for someone so young.

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13 Jul 2015 08:42:55
Done in feb, That doesn't make sense why would city let a 49 mill player train with Liverpool upto the 11th of july knowing he could be injured, it would of been official on july 1st. also ed confirmed during june and july no deal had been struck even saying bids had been rejected. You also said we were in for Kono but ed confirmed we were not even interested. I think your contact has been caught out and is now given false info mate.

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26 Feb 2017 13:51:15
Couldn't agree more, Thanks Ed.

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20 Feb 2017 18:18:02
Erm you mean a young winger with lots of potential and highly rated?

If only Ojo was foreign eh? he'd be a shoe in.

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14 Feb 2017 07:17:03
Were would you think would be best for him Ed?, Lower prem league team, Championship or back to spain.

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{Ed001's Note - Spain, he is very highly regarded in Seville, so I think a return there would do him good.}


 

 

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14 Feb 2017 06:44:38
Quite gutting to hear Ed, Sounds like the lad is a good professional who unfortunately can't seem to up his game. But id keep him in the squad like lucas as an example of the kind of effort and commitment that is expected of all players.

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{Ed001's Note - personally I would let him go somewhere he can get regular gametime and hopefully he will learn from the experience and become a competent left back in time. We need to sell him and allow him his chance to play, he deserves it.}


 

 

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12 Feb 2017 13:15:57
Harry sitting deep is not a problem as it allows us to play right on top of them, the problem is that for example the striker could pull the left cb to the right post allowing mane to move into a central position with space that the right cb has a choice go to mane or stay with couts/ milner, or any quick one touch passing and movement will not allow them to mark properly and that will create space.

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