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18 Jul 2016 13:28:39
Apparently the club has confirmed Sakho will wear No 3 shirt which means he stays.
With Klavan coming in, All three of Ilori, Wisdom and Lucas is off clearly.

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1.) 18 Jul 2016 13:31:25
Why is Lucas clearly off? He's a central midfield player.


2.) 18 Jul 2016 14:00:10
With the amount of midfielders we have I think his only hope was as a rotating cb/ cdm which is what Harry is getting at and the squad needs to be trimmed somewhere.


3.) 18 Jul 2016 13:55:12
Can, Hendo, Grujic, Milner, Wijnaldum, Brannagan, Stewart and we play only 2 in the middle most of the time.


4.) 18 Jul 2016 14:57:56
Not being negative towards the lads but Lucas is ahead of Brannaghan and Stewart. Milner plays out wide more than he does cm.
Lucas has looked very sharp during pre season to be fair (I've watched 2 live) . Never mind the level of the opposition, he clearly has stepped his game up.
And probably due to lack of strikers more than anything but we have been setting up with a clear 4-3-3 formation. Don't see klopp working on a formation for no reason.


5.) 18 Jul 2016 15:02:06
Wijnaldum, have I missed that confirmation?


6.) 18 Jul 2016 15:11:13
Apparently he's offered to sign all of the new season shirts already purchased with the no.17 on as a gesture to apologise to all of the fans who bought the shirt, might be simple but shows he cares about the club and the fans, got to love him he's a top class fella.


7.) 18 Jul 2016 15:21:27
I'd imagine Wijnaldum would play in the 3 behind the striker, no?


8.) 18 Jul 2016 15:29:21
GW is not yet a LFC player and you are already mentioning him. There is no confirmed interest in the first place. Whatever you feel or read from the tabloid becomes news. The lad is useless and I'm sure Klopp is well aware of that. GW and Sissoko are not confirmed targets.


9.) 18 Jul 2016 18:13:38
Yes ginger, and that's the problem we don't need another player that plays the 3 behind the striker. A mistake Harry has made I think is that wijnaldum actually doesn't play in the central midfield role like the like of hendo, can, Stewart etc so he would actually be competing with coutinho, firmino, mane, Milner, lallana, ojo, marko. We are far too overstocked even if marko was to leave or ojo on loan or something. I just don't see any signs of lallana or Milner leaving so it makes no sense unless at least 2 players leave.

As for midfield, it is a position we are in bed of more quality. I'm talking about central midfield. With the likes of Allen and Lucas mooted to leave, Brannagan, Stewart largely untested at the highest level, grujic, hendo and can seem to be our first choice midfielders. So if we persist with using the youngster for the midfield, why not in the more forward positions and centre back?

I hope GW doesn't happen even though I think he's a decent player, it just makes the transfer window even more senseless. We need a central midfielder and left back that is all. Use that money for that.


10.) 18 Jul 2016 18:53:27
GW is getting a lot of stick on here, while at PSV a lot of teams were after humour off by an injury, not being the kind of person who lives by stats but his for last year speak for themselves. Probably better than those for most of our midfielders last season. I think he's a good buy but my concern would be where he fits in. We've paid 30 odd for mane, United are looking at 100 for pogba, we got 15 for ibe. This season prices are all inflated, Newcastle rightly so want their share.


11.) 18 Jul 2016 19:57:47
If Wijnaldum signs I hope he is played at left back. Left back at Melwood.


12.) 18 Jul 2016 21:41:37
Why are people including GW in our list of midfield players. He plays for Newcastle!


13.) 19 Jul 2016 18:50:23
Two thoughts, one Lucas, as he gets older, isn't going to suddenly discover the extra yard of pace he lacks that means he ends up committing fouls in danger areas and two the likes of Brannaghan are going to remain untested at the highest level until we have a squad that means they get some games. But, if we're going to let Lucas go then it would make sense if it was actually because we have a direct replacement for him.


 

 

07 Jul 2016 11:17:11
Coutinho has switched agents to Kia Joorabchian and Giuliano Bertolucci. Their main goal is a transfer to CL clubs.

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1.) 07 Jul 2016 11:38:18
Personally I wouldn't be to bothered if we got a great price for him. with that kind of money we could replace him with a more industrious hard working player I think his heart is set on a move anyway. Fiminho will come into his own imo.


2.) 07 Jul 2016 12:33:36
We should do our best to hold onto our top players, obviously.

However, Klopp will be working with him everyday so he will know better than us where he's at and whether he's onboard. I will trust Klopp to make the correct call on this one either way.


3.) 07 Jul 2016 13:14:42
We keep hearing that Klopp has final say when buying players, and I don't doubt that at all.

But what happens when selling players Eds? Would the board ever step in and say "Doesn't matter how much you want to keep him, this offer is too good, we're selling him"

Or does Klopp have final say on outgoings as well?

Cheers in advance.

{Ed002's Note - It doesn't work like that.}


4.) 07 Jul 2016 13:20:27
Lucky, you are joking right? You never sell your best players and like it or not, Coutinho is one of our best players and selling him just like that, is sending the wrong message. You must do all you can to keep them. Look at Arsenal. They are now a selling club after years of the "no one is bigger than the club" nonsense and they are nowhere near winning the PL after getting huge fees for their best players. We should do all we can to keep Couts, end of.


5.) 07 Jul 2016 14:19:11
Ed002, am I right in thinking that Kia Joorabchian isn't a licensed agent? What is the deal with that?

{Ed002's Note - Correct but the original post is just the usual nonsense from Harry that he has found on Twitter - it is a year old news. You are the most incredibly gullible fans.}


6.) 07 Jul 2016 15:14:35
I'm marking this as "nothing to see here"! Cheers Ed.


7.) 07 Jul 2016 16:07:42
Hi Ed002, if as you say its the usual nonsense from Harry, old twitter news, why bother posting it? Seems a lot of this guys nonsense gets posted.

{Ed002's Note - I didn't post it.}


8.) 07 Jul 2016 16:14:15
Thats fair enough mate, maybe your colleague might read this and stop posting nonsense rumours from the same poster over and over again. Love the site by the way. Thanks for the quick reply.


9.) 07 Jul 2016 16:36:22
Totally missed the part that Harry posted the original post. Nothing to see here then.


10.) 07 Jul 2016 18:15:13
If someone offers over 60 m for coutihno, we would be foolish to say no. He is way overated imo, sell him he clearly thinks he's too good for liverpool so let him warm the bench in spain. Would like to see us buy payet with the money.


11.) 07 Jul 2016 19:46:08
@Wobsworth you'd swap Countiho for Payet? I wouldn't. Payet will be turning 30 soon. Countihos got plenty of years left in him and will likely continue to improve as he has done for the past 3 years.


12.) 08 Jul 2016 12:22:31
Never sure that some of the sell him, he's overrated stuff isn't fishing as much as the original post.


13.) 09 Jul 2016 15:14:03
I wouldn't touch Payet with a ten foot pole.


 

 

05 Jul 2016 19:33:53
Liverpool have received a £15m offer from Stoke City for Jordan Henderson.

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1.) 05 Jul 2016 20:29:04
That's not even a rumour, it's just utter rubbish.


2.) 05 Jul 2016 20:42:40
I'm not his biggest fan, but he fetches 25 million easy in today's ridiculous market.


3.) 05 Jul 2016 21:10:01
Haha yeah alright. They can jog on.


4.) 05 Jul 2016 21:15:52
Make it up as you go along time.


5.) 05 Jul 2016 21:23:55
15 million, laughable, easy a 30 million player in the current market.

Baz.


6.) 05 Jul 2016 21:31:36
He's the club captain and one of the top midfielders in the league when fit.

I'd tell them to pay £40m, or take a long walk down a short pier.


7.) 05 Jul 2016 21:31:36
He's the club captain and one of the top midfielders in the league when fit.

I'd tell them to pay £40m, or take a long walk down a short pier.


8.) 05 Jul 2016 22:21:12
There's at least 15 midfielders I'd rather have!


9.) 05 Jul 2016 21:00:23
What are they smoking at the Britannia lol we bought him for 16 to 20 mil nothing less than 25 mil should even be considered . But if I was klopp I'd keep him a fit hendo is for me our best centre mid at the min emre will become that once he adds some goals to his game.


10.) 05 Jul 2016 23:12:49
Don't believe this for a moment.


11.) 05 Jul 2016 22:38:39
The fact anyone would consider selling the club captain to Stoke shows what a great player he is. . . NOT!


12.) 06 Jul 2016 01:17:06
45 mil for me at least to consider the move. and for the posters who say there are 15 midfielder better than i don't care. he is our captain and i don't want him to leave.


13.) 07 Jul 2016 19:00:50
maybe the £15 mill you heard about was for another jordan as in jordan Ibe who was sold to b'mouth for £15 mill, just a thought.


14.) 08 Jul 2016 12:35:57
Intrigued as to how many of those better midfielders are yet more of the attacking midfield players that everyone keeps wanting to sign without anyone behind them.

based on what people keep saying we'll be playing a gk, 1 or 2 in defence and 6 or 7attacking midfielders.


 

 

03 Jul 2016 17:42:55
Zielinski to join Napoli after they accept his higher wage request.

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1.) 03 Jul 2016 20:59:10
I doubt that wages have anything to do with LFC having had an £11.7m bid for Poland midfielder Piotr Zielinski rejected by Udinese. They accepted an identical offer from Napoli. Wages are nothing to do with the deal as they are agreed between the player's agent and his prospective club. so it seems more like Udinese making a point.


2.) 04 Jul 2016 06:40:23
Man, every day you come up with something stupid!


3.) 04 Jul 2016 07:39:50
Any chance we can trade harry to another team 😃.


4.) 04 Jul 2016 08:46:11
I don't think you guys have understood what he's suggesting.

What we know: Liverpool and Napoli have submit 'identical' bids, Napoli have had theirs accepted, we have had ours declined.

Zielinksi would prefer to come to Liverpool, however if Napoli were to offer high enough wages (everybody has a price), then it's possible he could change his mind and go to Napoli. This is what i understood Game of Thrones post to be implying - that Napoli have offered him better personal terms and he has accepted.

Seems fairly feasible to be honest.


5.) 04 Jul 2016 12:41:22
How does anyone one know the bids are identical? Could be completely different payment plans.

{Ed002's Note - The Napoli offer included a player. More is wanted from Liverpool for reasons that have been previously explained.}


6.) 04 Jul 2016 15:44:03
Eds and many others have ssud that Udinese don't wanna do business with us anymore due to Kloop tapping up the player hence, the rules are different for us than for other clubs who want the player. We will not get him if we don't offer what Udinese want, which has nothing to do with what other clubs offer. This saga is becoming annoying as it seems we can't take a hint. Udinese won't sell him to usso for heaven's sake, let it go.


7.) 04 Jul 2016 18:24:27
The eds have said Udinese WILL sell to us and we know the price it's up to us to say we'll pay it. I'm surprised that Zielinski is still wanting to join us after all the pi$$ING about. He can't think we want him that much if we still haven't offered the money.


8.) 04 Jul 2016 21:50:52
Poolie, he's not worth the trouble as to me like Goetze, he's not needed.


 

 

02 Jul 2016 13:06:42
Palace to make an improved offer closer to £30 mill for Benteke. The player has agreed personal terms with the club.

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1.) 02 Jul 2016 15:13:03
Hope this is true, couldn't believe we ever bought this player given the playing style required to get the best out him. Good luck to him though!


2.) 02 Jul 2016 16:14:30
I am genuinely surprised we are actually going to get close to 30 million for Benteke. Lots of posters were convinced months ago that no one would pay even 20 million for him, but here we are. And its Palace of all clubs willing to break the bank for him.


3.) 02 Jul 2016 17:27:47
Why the surprise? It's not that he's a bad player it was just a bad purchase in so much as he didn't suit our style of play and we were unwilling to adapt to play to his strengths.


4.) 02 Jul 2016 20:03:00
You are bang on poolie. He is a good player and he has shown it over a few seasons, but he just didn't fit our style of play. Particularly once Klopp arrived.


5.) 03 Jul 2016 07:32:33
Palace is of no issue to Palace because they have wealthy backers from the States. Benteke not only didn't fit our style, he also has a stinking attitude and is not willing to work hard. If you can't do that then you will fail at any club regardless of how good you are or maybe think you are. Klopp gave him every opportunity to change but there were times in games where the effort and willing ness to fight through defenders' clutches or get into the box was just not there and Klopp eventually got fed up with him, IMO. That was his problem, IMO. He's at his level now at Palace so all the best, Chris.


6.) 03 Jul 2016 09:01:51
Natural poolie, the guy is a decent enough player but never worth 20 million plus. Will be a good enough signing for Palace but he will be under enormous pressure to perform there too with all the money they are splurging on him.


 

 

 

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18 Jul 2016 13:21:09
Anyone could help me on this.
What would Wijnaldum bring to the current team and where does he fit in.
Considering both Milner and Lallana stays and fight for that one aditonal spot in the midfield. Wijnaldum is a poor £25 mill wasted.

Wijnaldum goals could be compare to Milner's goal and assist last season ( both not playing the traditional CM role and either on the flanks or slightly high up )

If people are upset by the lack of goals from Midfield it's due Henderson and Can not scoring enough when it's clear Klopp only plays 2 CM every match.

Now the big question, Where would Grujic play if he is B2B player.

Wijnaldum wouldn't even make any sense given you offload Milner as Grujic would be the third midfielder.

Thanks.

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1.) 18 Jul 2016 13:45:49
Milner did play as a cm last year. Yeah he ran all over the place and got assists from the wing but he shouldn't. I myself would sell Milner in a heartbeat. I like lallana but for all his silky skills and good movement he just hasn't been able to get the goals his quality should get him. No doubt spurs or someone will come for him and he will bang them in for them. Hopefully he can do it for us because he can be faulted for effort.


2.) 18 Jul 2016 14:07:58
Unrelated Harry, but your language is getting pretty shocking mate. This site has no age limit and whilst we've all sworn on occasion, you are now swearing in nearly every post. No need for it mate.

With regards to what you are saying, Wijnaldum scored 11 goals from midfield. The only player we had who came close to that was Coutinho. Firmino scored most of his goals playing as a striker, and Lallana and Milner would need to combine their totals to have as many goals as GW.

I don't think there is any reasonable argument that he is similar to what we have. We don't have a single player in the squad like GW. The closest is probably Firmino in terms of being able to play effectively behind a striker. Milner and Lallana are just hard working attackers who both perform better at least starting from a wider position. Coutinho is classy but he is also better starting from wide. Mane is a proper wide forward and his moving to a more central role last year coincided with his 4 month goal drought. We don't actually have a single central attacking midfielder who scores goals from that position. As I've already pointed out, Firmino got nearly all of his goals playing up front.

Why can't we have a £20m player on the bench as an impact player anyway? Joe Allen cost £15m and was used as an impact sub. And this summer the prices are essentially doubled. The nature of the game now is that you have a squad. I don't like it and am well on record as saying I prefer to give chances to youngsters. But you are one of those who argues you need back up players who can cone in without severely affecting the teams overall quality. So why are you now arguing an improvement to the squad. Wijnaldum is a blatant upgrade on Allen, Milner and Lallana!

Besides, we can only speculate on who is leaving. Maybe a surprise exit is on the cards.


3.) 18 Jul 2016 14:19:38
You do realise Wijnaldum is an attacking mid, who also can play on the left. He wouldn't be competing with Hendo, Can and Grujic, he'd be competing with Mane, Coutinho and Firmino.


4.) 18 Jul 2016 14:27:50
Yeah MKSCOUSER we agree fella 😆 I don't see this as the big waste of money most seem to see it. I think a lot of different tactics will be used next season so attacking players that can play various roles will be good. One thing I will add though is that we could do with losing a few like Milner and Lallana now. What do you think?


5.) 18 Jul 2016 14:29:06
Unrelated but he hardly swore, don't be so pc. On subject we don't need another midfielder even if two of those where to leave, we need to trim the squad without adding to it right now, so he is not needed regardless. If we are going to waste money add it to a LB signing which arguably is our most pressing position needing fixing.


6.) 18 Jul 2016 14:43:21
@MrWJonesy - completely agree, save the money and spend it in a position we are desperately in need of fixing. Wijnaldum makes no sense.


7.) 18 Jul 2016 14:52:39
Seano it almost seems that people think the only position that is important on a team is midfield! that is not Liverpools problem so let's fix our problems before we spend money on luxury signings we don't need. I would even rather see the money spent on a way to teach our club how to interact professionally to other clubs regarding transfers.


8.) 18 Jul 2016 15:08:04
MK, you are kidding right. We already have 20m players on the bench potentially with Milner and Lallana since Mane is here to play on the right and neither Englishmen can play in the center. Also, you said GW scored 11 goals from midfield. You do know he only score in SEVEN games and 4 of his 11 came in one game vs Norwich. Where was he the other 30 odd games? Also if he was that good and cosistent, why was he benched in the heat of a relegation scrap for being exactly what he is, lazy because he doesn`t press, the very thing Klopp hates or why Necastle are desperate to get rid? Maybe because MacLaren was a poor manager and Rafa actually could spot a poor player when he saw one? Therefore, your argument for getting a horribly poor player hold no water. We have better players than GW in our academy so for me, like I didn`t want Gotze here and thank heavens he isn`t coming, I don`t want GW who is not even anywhere near good enuff, here. Why? because whatever he "contributed" to the Magpies in getting relegated, I want none of it here at LFC.


9.) 18 Jul 2016 15:27:02
MK

Apologies for my language mate. Considering both Can and Hendo plays in the middle and wouldn't score for their life. The manager introduces Marko Grujic, Ojo, Kent, Brannagan or any Midfielder / Winger who would play slight high up. We simply don't need Wijnaldum. There are two strikes on the bench as well Origi and Ings to come in if Liverpool are chasing a game and need something different.
Milner is introduced If you want to stiffen up the midfield providing additional body to cover up.

Tell me where would Wijnaldum fit in? At a time you could field only 11 players and we have 2 strikers on tr bench waiting for a chance.

Wijnaldum, Zielinksi, Gylfi Suggursdson, Zander Herrerra, They're all similar type of additional midfielders which we simply do not need.

You,

That's possible and I have mentioned it in it post, Wijnaldum / Zielinksi would definitely make sense if you do not have Milner or Lallana.


10.) 18 Jul 2016 16:02:18
Poolie, we shall rejoice!

And Jonesy, barely swearing is still swearing. And I have seen him do so 4 times in the last 24hours. Unnecessarily.

It's not PC, it's just being well mannered.


11.) 18 Jul 2016 16:24:18
No worries harry. The swearing doesn't offend me, but the spike in posts on thus site during school holidays suggests there are a fair few kids on here.

I agree with you in that I also don't think Wijnaldum is what we need. I am merely defending him from the abuse he getting. I have said repeatedly I am not keen sue to his attitude. But I have also remained balanced in my argument and explaining his good qualities. He is a goal scorer. Who cares how many he scored in one game, or how many goals he scored in. He scored in 7 separate league games apparently. I bet that is a figure very much in line with that of Coutinho, Firmino, Milner, or Lallana. In fact I'll do the math.

Milner scored in 5 separate league games.

Lallana scored in 4 separate league games.

Coutinho scored in 7 separate league games.

Firmino scored in 8 separate league games.

All the goals Firmino scored where either as a centre forward or a second striker. He did not score once from midfield.

So what is this poor excuse of an argument that Firmino only scored in 7 different games. 7 different games from midfield? Are we now suggesting Coutinho is a bad player? Because he only scored in 7 games, and he scored less than Wijnaldum as well!

This is where stats get ridiculous. The simple fact is Wijnaldum is a goal scorer. I don't care how many were at home, are how many games they were spread across. He scored goals that earnt his team points; just as Coutinho did.

No, I don't agree with signing him. But I also am not prepared to question his talent just because he is lazy. By all means criticise his actual flaws, but making stuff up and trying to put a negative spin on him scoring 4 goals in a single game is really clutching at straws lads!

Nobody seemed to care that Suarez was a flat track bully who scored over half of his 31 league goals against the bottom 4 teams!


12.) 18 Jul 2016 18:04:37
Mk I actually liked wijnaldum a lot at psv and saw him play a couple times and tore through groningen and thought we should have been after him last season. However you can't say he scored 10 from midfield really when the goals against Norwich and Tottenham (I can't remember the others but watched these games) he almost had a completely free role if not wide right role in these games (similar to when he scored most of his goals at psv) he did also play deeper for psv in his last season at times but didn't score as many goals.

He is a luxury player essentially which I don't see the need for in our side unless as you said as an impact sub but I'd be more inclined to side that this should be youth here. If firmino were to leave you could form a role for him off the main striker and give him a free role to go out and get goals but again I'd rather keep firmino.


13.) 18 Jul 2016 19:23:12
In relation to Firmino Adam his work rate is actually excellent. He constantly presses and works hard both with and without the ball as well as continuing his running around. He never looks flustered or out of breath but the lad is a bloody hard worker - Wijnaldum is the opposite. Strolls around, tries when he wants and sulks when he doesn't: on the pitch a player you really don't want, a Ryan Babel clone. He might have ability but his mentality is all wrong - if we sign him it would be the mark on insanity.


 

 

07 Jul 2016 12:00:53
I would be absolutely gutted if the club moves an inch in pursuit of Sissokho from Newcastle. He is not what we want in spite of bullying Allen and Lucas when we met them in the past. He doesn't score enough in fact he has the worst scoring stats for any B2B player. His first touch is poor and all he brings is his big lump physique to shrug the players.

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1.) 07 Jul 2016 13:18:05
Just playing devils advocate here, but you consistently argue that Can is a box to box midfielder and not a holding midfielder.

Therefore Sissoko doesn't have the worst scoring record because it is better than Emre Can's!

People put too much importance on midfielders goal scoring record nowadays. Iniesta, Kroos, Modric and Alonso are for me the 4 best midfielders in world football, and I don't think any of them have ever hit double figures in their lives!

Just to clarify, I don't want Sissoko anyway! It has nothing to do with his goalscoring record, I just don't think he is any better James Milner!


2.) 07 Jul 2016 13:32:50
The guy is poor, aweful, lazy and not good enuff, technically. Ed02 has said we have no interest in a player who has been clamouring for a move to Arsenal since he got to England. I wonder why they aren`t interested? Maybe because he`s crap. I want none of whatever talents he has that helped get Newcastle relegated.


3.) 07 Jul 2016 16:44:52
MK

Emre Can doesn't play high up the pitch unlike Sissokho who plays on the right hand side and yet has a dreadful record in front of the goal. Midfielders score goals like Pogba, Vidal etc whose primary role is to get into the opposition box. Alonso did not score enough while his partner Khadiera did score.


 

 

05 Jul 2016 11:34:35
Ok, This post might not be for the TRUST THE MANAGER section, I would rather people who has a decent view on over all.

It's no secret we are in for One Central Midfielder and the club has been tracking Zielinksi for a while.

Now coming to the actual point. What is the drastic difference between Zielinski and Grujic / Milner. I don't see any. Grujic looks a solid B2B player unproven and in tested in the league. Someone very offensive and would play higher up, precisely linking the midfield with attackers.

Zielinksi is pretty much the same payed as much as I have seen of him. Short passes and very direct to the next player.

Y do you think we should be looking at the same player over and over again?

I don't think both Zielinksi and Grujic on the pitch at the same time as both offers pretty much the same of course unless you deploy one of them to a different role which is quite stupid or known as Brendan.

I am not going to compare both players and that would be stupid in the first place, But it's even more stupid to buy same type of player ( or who offers the same thing on the pitch )

Verdict : There exist no shortage of Offensive players including Brannagan ( everyone loves to go forward ), Could we finally buy someone to play the deeper role ( either you call him a DM or a classy DLP )

Thanks for the read and I would love to hear from Real people.

Cheers.

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1.) 05 Jul 2016 12:01:23
I think it depends on the tactics Klopp wishes to use.
It's not mandatory to have someone specifically assigned to DM (etc) .
We have some versatile players at the club, perhaps if Klopp wants to use the DM tactic then he could use Lucas or Matip there.


2.) 05 Jul 2016 12:29:01
Real people? I best not comment then as I am clearly imaginary.


3.) 05 Jul 2016 14:18:11
Harry, in Klopp's opinion Zielinski is one of three things; a potential first team player who will improve the current team, a player who is prepared to be backup who is an improvement on our current back ups or a player that's available who can fill the hole left by a player expected to depart. We won't know which it is until the season starts (assuming we buy him of course) . If it's the first two then Klopp disagrees with you that he offers nothing that we don't already have. If it's the latter then it's a reflection on the club's ability to bring in talent (or lack of it) .

Whichever it is we won't know until the season starts if he's good enough or not so let's just wait before deciding it's a pointless purchase.


4.) 05 Jul 2016 14:27:04
I said at the start of the summer we didn't need midfielders and YOU were the main person to lead a Kovacic inspired campaign against me Harry ;)

Good post though tbh mate. Unless Klopp is planning on going to a 3 man midfield, the Zielinski signing seems unnecessary to me. However if Klopp wants the player he clearly has a vision or plan for him at the club so I hope we get him.

It's very easy for people who think he is similar to what we have or the wrong kind of player to say "we don't need him". But we have absolutely no idea what Klopps plans are for Zielinski or even the team for that matter. So how can we accurately make such statements?

For all we know he wants to sell Allen, Milner, Henderson, Can and Lucas and play a diamond midfield which will allow him to bring in Zielinski, Grujic and Dahoud! Unlikely but we are merely guessing the clubs plans.

All I am hoping for is that the club is backing Klopp. I will give my opinions on players we are interested in signing, but it is always worth considering that Klopp will undoubtedly see things slightly differently and have a much clearer idea as to how we will line up next season.


5.) 05 Jul 2016 15:10:56
Well said muscatred.


6.) 05 Jul 2016 15:14:20
Well put, might I also add that every player will add something different, question is that will be a positive or neg? He is a player our manager seems keen on that alone should be reason for us to think he knows what he wants from him. I would hate for us to destroy yet another talented player.


7.) 05 Jul 2016 17:10:56
Ed001 said a little while ago we needed a spoiler in midfield, something that we do not have at the moment, we need one to be able to close off games and dominate midfield. Something that we haven't been able to do effectively.


8.) 05 Jul 2016 17:37:42
Ed001 has pointed out that if the midfielders do their job there is no need to have a man taken out the game solely to defend in midfield. Unlike the misconception, kante was actually a very good catalyst for attack as well as an excellent defender as was alonso for us etc.

Yes the players are offensive primarily but under klopp the whole team defends and they also attack as a team. We lacked energy, pace and intelligence in the middle toward the back end of the season and i imagine klopp is trying to remedy this.

Its also not just about the first 11, when we looked to freshen up midfield last season our only viable option was lucas who lacks pace, joe pirlo whole lacks direction or james milner who lacks everything it takes to play in the middle. All i'm saying is its a squad game and we need options. Yes we have stewart and branagan but we have seen how they have been dominated when playing against teams in the bottom half who just bully them.

Time will tell as to whether grugic of kielinski will be good or not and my expectations are realistic enough to know we will not be buying the kantes and pogbas of this world. i'm also wise enough to know that the pogbas and kantes did not descend the womb as great players, they worked and developed themselves and became great by being given a chance by someone.


9.) 05 Jul 2016 19:27:57
We have to look in which direction the game plan is going. If we going to have more defensive full backs, then a deep lying/ defensive mid may not be needed.
2 mids may get over run if they play a full 90 minutes, so chances are, he's buying a mid to be on the bench and subbed in for 1 of Can or Henderson, remember higher tempo closing down opposition.


10.) 05 Jul 2016 18:37:19
MK

Kovacic is a different player to both Zielinksi and Grujic. I have given my verdict to try and look out for a player who has been playing in s position which would improve us or something we are short of quality. I would defo want a CM but let's not do the same mistake we did last season in buying Milner and ending up in no mans land.

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02 Jul 2016 16:05:52
Joe Allen likely to stay after deals for Zielinski and Dahoud are unlikely to be concluded.
Meanwhile Dahoud has rejected a contract extension at Borrussia.

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01 Jul 2016 17:46:08
As Newcastle have signed Gayle from Palace. I think Palace will now push for Benteke.

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1.) 01 Jul 2016 19:27:32
Reading a 25 million bid has been made, don't know if it's true.


2.) 01 Jul 2016 19:43:54
Just bid 25 million for him spot on haha.


3.) 01 Jul 2016 20:22:32
I'd take the 25 and run. Run an absolute mile.


4.) 01 Jul 2016 18:50:46
Well at least we know it's your opinion now Harry :) . You could be right on this one though.


5.) 01 Jul 2016 19:46:19
Ya Liverpool what 30mil if we get that we hardly spent money. Ed will the number 9 be empty . I would like Origi to take it if we don't buy a st.

{Ed001's Note - it is just a number.}


6.) 01 Jul 2016 21:00:04
It may be just a number but it's a number that legends have worn before. So, I believe for a young player like Origi being handed the no.9 would be a huge morale boost.

{Ed001's Note - young players like that barely know the names of the legends that went before them. I was having this discussion the other day with a bunch of coaches, which originated from an argument about ex-players getting preferential treatment to get their badges.}


7.) 02 Jul 2016 10:37:10
Players of today don't care for such things as squad now as long as they are playing, the squad no. won't matter to them.


 

 

 

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20 Jul 2016 12:00:37
Klopp doing a Brendan and the funny part is Club backing him on all signings.

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19 Jul 2016 10:41:02
This is certainly possible with Wijnaldum coming this way. Selling a DM and buying a B2B player.

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18 Jul 2016 13:55:12
Can, Hendo, Grujic, Milner, Wijnaldum, Brannagan, Stewart and we play only 2 in the middle most of the time.

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18 Jul 2016 13:27:27
He rejected Chelsea and I see not a chance in heaven he would welcome any interest from Luverpool.

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18 Jul 2016 13:14:19
We would sign a LB without a doubt and klavan is signed to cover CB's in necessary.

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19 Aug 2016 12:54:21
What did you make out from his recent interview and he got it spot on regarding the first goal. Lallana got dispossessed in the middle and Arsenal squared it. The hate affair on Moreno on this page is utter disgraceful.

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17 Aug 2016 16:15:39
LFC,

A friend of mine passed this info. I am not 100% sure. He returned to the training ground strapped up.

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17 Aug 2016 15:39:02
2 weeks rest I am told.

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17 Aug 2016 12:14:55
Moreno is no worse than some of the following

1. Marcelo
2. Danny rose
3. Alves
4. Walker
5. Korolov

They all have a speciality holding player BTW.

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17 Aug 2016 12:13:16
Nothing to do with big names of big clubs. Teams who come and play their natural game ( City and Arsenal ), Liverpool play beautiful football. Mainly because we gets space to play behind and run through, teams who sit back and maintain a shape we struggle. Largely because we have no cou to pick those small pockets behind. Not we are good in the air to nick one in from corners of Set pieces. Instead we commit everyone forward ( especially our midfield ) and leave acres of space left wide open for players like hazard to run at us.

I saw Chelsea and UTD play. Both will cause us trouble. Chelsea maintain excellent shape ( just fantastic off the ball ) while we know how jose operates.

We play narrow and excels in small instructive passing and not very direct or hoofing the balls. Mane will be the key difference to unlock such teams.

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