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01 Dec 2015 22:00:55
Real Madrid today shortlisted Klopp as a possible replacement for Benitez. Klopp's advisors have indicated interest should this develop.

Klopp would be delighted to move to Madrid but is not prepared to rock the boat.

Interesting development but not surprising. And nothing to worry about at the moment.

Fatdave

1.) 01 Dec 2015 22:27:53
Klopp said he wants to be at the club for a long time so I wouldn't worry, he as a long career at Liverpool first.


2.) 01 Dec 2015 23:54:03
Klopp will leave for RM only if he can manage there for 10 yrs and Perez and Ronaldo and Ramos and few other egos and trouble makers to leave.


3.) 02 Dec 2015 00:45:22
I think the last thing Klopp would want right now is a move to Madrid. Klopp isn't like a manager who likes world beaters given to him. The man lives and breathes being giant killers so to speak. He loves taking smaller teams and beating the larger teams.

Liverpool ( biggest club in football history ;) ) wasn't in the best shape when he took over and that's what he likes to work on, a project and bring that team to the top!

Madrid i doubt would take his fancy over Liverpool FC at the moment for sure!


4.) 02 Dec 2015 01:05:14
Jurgen took time off until he was offered a 'project' that was right for him. His words.


5.) 02 Dec 2015 01:45:42
Were klopps power play.

If he does it here it proves him as one of the greatest coaches on the planet, sure if he doesn't 'succeed' here (the premier league) he can still end up in the top jobs but if he gets the prem. There is no doubt about him, no doubt that Dortmund wasn't any fluke by having the right players at the right time when Munich weren't at there best.

He is a clever man.

Succeed here and he can cherry pick his own club, contract and any player he wants in or out!

Fail and there will still be a lot of places he will go to no doubt about that to be fair.


6.) 02 Dec 2015 09:46:17
Im with ChiefScout on this.

{Ed001's Note - Klopp chose to take a break even knowing the Madrid job was up for grabs last summer, I very much doubt anything would happen there now.}


7.) 02 Dec 2015 13:10:35
Exactly Ed001 mate. makes no sense to think he would walk from a potential job for life to an electioneering hotpot of madness.


8.) 02 Dec 2015 14:10:47
Worst rumour of the day award goes to fat dave lol. Not going to happen my friend.


 

 

21 Jun 2015 08:45:14
Man City will present a new bid of £45 million for Sterling on Monday. Sterling has already agreed terms with City, using his agent to do so, to avoid any claim of an illegal approach.
The £45 million has a reduced up front fee of £18 million to comply with FFP. This "up front" £18 million will be paid over 2 years, which is typical of 99% of transfers. (LFC will have to wait for 5 years to get all the money for Suarez) There is another payment of 5 million after 2 years and the rest is payable in clauses: appearances, trophies won etc.
Man City will again claim this is their "last" bid.

On a separate note, any one else concerned that LFC making the same mistake from last year. signing too many players, which will disrupt the squad??

Fatdave

{Ed001's Note - you do realise that FFP rules mean that all payment terms have to be over 3 years now? Unless I am misremembering the rules, there is absolutely no way Barca could pay for Suarez's up front fee over a period of 5 years, it would be a maximum of 3.}


1.) 21 Jun 2015 09:51:42
Has it all been agreed though ed like above?

{Ed001's Note - nope.}


2.) 21 Jun 2015 10:08:18
Ed, isn't it that if payment terms in excess of three years are agreed, the FFP break-even calculation must be restated to amortise the fee over three years? I may be wrong but I was under the impression they could agree whatever terms they like but the profit or loss calculation will have to reflect a three year term.

{Ed001's Note - no there was an issue with clubs like Portsmouth mortgaging the future paying for players over immensely long terms, so there was a cap on length of payment terms to avoid another situation like they underwent. That was what caused their problems in the main.}


3.) 21 Jun 2015 10:37:51
I thought payment term(s) were dependent on player age?

{Ed001's Note - in what way??}


4.) 21 Jun 2015 12:01:52
How long has FFP got, on its current legs, ed001 ?
There are numerous legal challenges over it stacked up in the courts and the spectre of a European breakaway league in the background.
How extensive will be the proposed amendments to it that have been mooted by Platini ?

{Ed001's Note - I have no idea mate, I expect the changes to be in the order of gradual loosening until it vanishes altogether though.}


 

 

 

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12 Dec 2015 22:36:09
The mistake Liverpool made in the last 2 close season periods was to spend too much money on too many players.

The squad needs a bit of stability and Klopp needs time to assess what he has available and how to use them effectively.

Fatdave

1.) 13 Dec 2015 02:41:48
Agreed - not many January signings expected then!


2.) 13 Dec 2015 10:53:23
I think we are at a really good place now with the squad and I like the way Klopp is taking his time checking out the whole club to add to the first team squad.

There will be a few players sold I expect to trim it down a bit but stability is the key. We are a very young team so now we let it grow.

When we do buy players we buy what we need now, and we buy well. Again Klopp will have this more than covered. I have every faith in this manager to deliver.


 

 

 

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16 Aug 2016 21:43:59
Don't forget that "up front" doesn't mean (or very, very rarely means) one lump sum paid in one instalment. "Up front" means the transfer fee that doesn't include clauses.

Typically an "up front" fee is paid over the length of the new contract signed by the player for the new club. In the past this might be over 4-6 seasons.

Palace offered £23 million over 36 months. Liverpool might accept £20 million over 24 months, as an example.

The clauses are normally appearance, goals based or international caps or even promotion/ relegation. They might include a sell on clause as well.

Liverpool playing a canny game here. Palace want Benteke and will end up paying what Pool want and in the time frame that Lpool want.

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15 Jul 2016 10:33:14
Just to clarify: there is some negotiation with Wycombe because Wycombe asked LFC to confirm the details of the transfer fee. Do Wycombe receive 5% of the whole fee or part of the fee ie are the clauses exempt.

Fatdave

{Ed001's Note - there is no negotiation, LFC have to give 5% of every payment, including clauses. It is a standard set fee to the clubs who develop players. If there had been 3 or 4 clubs, they would have split the 5% between them depending on the length of time the player had been there.}


 

 

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14 Jul 2016 21:58:32
Interesting - where did you get the buy back info from? That doesn't match what I have seen.
Liverpool will receive £3 million now and £7 million over 5 years. The rest is made up of clauses, including a fee if Ibe plays for England. And yes, there is a sell on clause.

Liverpool also have to negotiate a sell on fee to pay Wycombe.

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01 Dec 2015 22:05:06
Ed. funds won't arrive in May. Pretty much every transfer is spent over years. Liverpool still receiving money for the Suarez deal.

Fatdave

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you mean - Liverpool have sent players on loan to buy deals with the funds due at the end of the season - they are relying on that money to balance the books.}


 

 

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17 Jun 2015 17:22:44
The deal currently on offer is £35 million - £20 million payable over 2 years and the rest in clauses and add ons

Man City now claim they will not submit another higher bid. This is a deliberate tactic designed to unsettle Sterling further

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